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RPIR
Great edits to the RPIR page. Well done. Ozdaren (talk) 07:33, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * By the way, you might be interested in joining the Military History Wikiproject and/or its Australian task force. Nick-D (talk) 07:38, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Category:Battles of World War II involving Australia
Hi. I see you've been adding this category to a number of pages. In itself, that's fine but as far as I can see these pages are also in Category:Battles involving Australia. Since Category:Battles of World War II involving Australia is a sub-category of Category:Battles involving Australia, this represents an unnecessary duplication. If WWII battles are to be added to the former category, they should be removed from the latter. Regards Stephen Kirragetalk - contribs 11:23, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

More categories
I've seen the you created Category:Battles of the Vietnam War involving Australia, I would like you to create more categories with the same thing, such as Category:Battles of the Vietnam War involving the United States, Category:Battles of the Vietnam War involving Korea, or Category:Battles of the Vietnam War involving the Soviet Union, thank. 98.119.177.171 (talk) 01:51, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, which articles in particular are you interested in categorising? Cheers. Anotherclown (talk) 12:13, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

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Replaceable fair use Image:Trooper Mark Donaldson 2009.jpg
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Replaceable fair use Image:Trooper Mark Donaldson 2009.jpg
I have to admit to being a bit confused about this, my understanding is that as this image is provided by the Australian defence department as part of the a media release a claim of fair use can be made. Indeed the following is from their website:

Bona fide news media organisations only may republish and archive photographs and other material from the Defence web site for reporting news free of charge and without seeking further authorisation from the Commonwealth, subject to the following conditions: 1.Commonwealth copyright and Department of Defence origin must be appropriately acknowledged with status at least equal to other credits; 2.Users may not purport to license or assign copyright to other parties; and may not charge customers for its intellectual content; although they may charge for their production, research and retrieval, and distribution components of republishing; 3.Material from this web site must not be used in advertising, displays, other web sites, or in any public or mass media context other than reporting news, without specific written authorisation from the Commonwealth Copyright Administration; and 4.The Commonwealth reserves all other rights.

In your post you say that a freely licensed media could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information - I fail to see how either of these assertions are correct. For a start as a currently serving member of the SASR it would be illegal for a media organisation to release images other than those approved by the Department of Defence, whilst secondly neither I, nor I imagine anybody else on Wikipedia, are in a position to chase this bloke down and ask him for a happy snap.

Of course feel free to delete if you wish - alternatively you could actually suggest how we might use this image (which clearly has historical signifance), with out violating copyright. Anotherclown (talk) 09:19, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Please don't worry - two other editors have disagreed with me and I've removed the tag. I misread the article and thought that he was formerly a member of the SAS. Sorry for the inconvinience - Peripitus (Talk) 09:24, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Australian Victoria Cross recipients

 * Moved to WT:AUSMIL

My apologies Anotherclown that this seems to have been dumped onto you. In general it is best to discuss any changes that you think might be controversial rather than being bold. That is not to put you off being bold, it is what builds the encyclopedia after all. Regards, Woody (talk) 14:22, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Australian contribution to the Allied Intervention in Russia, 1918-1919
Hi Anotherclown. I was just looking through the above article that you created, and just wanted to say that you've done an exceptionally good job! There is very little I have ever seen on Australia's contributions to the Russian Civil War, and I think I only really know a little bit about it due to the two Aussie VCs of the engagement. If you don't mind, I do have a few points that could help you a little with enhancing the article? More MoS then content tips, but it's your call. I hope to see a few more such articles in the future. ;-) Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 14:13, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

P.S. I apologise for all of the above; never thought it would blow up like that! Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 14:13, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi mate - for sure please feel free to make suggestions. Anotherclown (talk) 05:09, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree, that's another outstanding article. Nick-D (talk) 06:58, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi Anotherclown. As I said, most of the points are more MoS (the boring stuff), but I hope it helps: Well, there's just a few points but I hope they help! Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 07:17, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The purpose of a lead/introduction (WP:LEAD) is to briefly summarise the information presented in the article. In this case the lead is absolutely enormous! Lol. It would probably be best to cut the lead down to two or three paragraphs, and go into detail where appropiate in the body.
 * It was once mandatory that dates be linked in an article, but this was over turned a little while ago. Now, linking dates is informally discouraged (actually, I think I read some where that it is now against the MoS; go figure), and it is best to have them delinked.
 * It's best not to over link, so probably only link something the first time it is mentioned.
 * Date ranges (eg. 10–12 September) used in the article and page ranges (eg. pages 10–12) used in citations require an endash (–). For more information see WP:ENDASH.
 * In regards to images, try not to sandwich the text. As in, try not to have two images opposite each other, making a sandwich effect with the text.


 * Cheers for those - I will endevour to make said changes when I have time (unfortunately back at work as of today and already snowed under). Of course I would not take offense if another editor makes these changes IOT comply with MoS. Anotherclown (talk) 06:36, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey there. Just to add - this is a great piece of work. I've made some edits and requested your help in finishing the minor restructure I've started, with a view to getting this to Good Article status. Check out the talk page. Get back to me if you think I'm on the wrong track. Cheers. hamiltonstone (talk) 23:19, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

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DYK nom
Hi. I've nominated Australian contribution to the Allied Intervention in Russia 1918–1919, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook for the article here, where you can improve it if you see fit. Thanks, Ravichandar My coffee shop  05:14, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Request for help
Hi mate, I've been working on 2/6th Independent Company. Thought I'd done a pretty good job, but apparently it sucks for references and grammer. References I can understand (I've only got a couple of books on the subject, mind you it is a unit so there aren't that many), but the grammar I disagree with. Anyway, I'm probably too close to it to see the mistakes, so when you get a chance could you look at it? You might have some more sources. Also, I started Honner Force today but it will only ever be a stub as I've got nothing to work with. Cheers. (The useless cripple) AustralianRupert (talk) 05:49, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Howdy. Looks pretty good to me! I made a couple of minor edits and will go over in more detail shortly (if time allows with the course). Take it easy. Anotherclown (talk) 11:49, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


 * A suggestion: add a section on Battle Honours. I don't have any sources on 2/6th and cannot track them down but I reckon Tregellis-Smith would probably have them listed. Cheers. Anotherclown (talk) 13:00, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Another suggestion: you may like to refine the Decorations list. Perhaps put the individual recipients in footnotes and just include the list in the main body. It looks more encyclopeadic I think. For an example have a look at the article on the Papuan Infantry Battalion. Anotherclown (talk) 13:08, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't think the squadron received any battle honours - I think they went to the Regiment that they became a part of. Can't confirm this yet, though.115.129.16.144 (talk) 00:22, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Royal Military College Duntroon
I just made the colour patch for the CSC - I think it looks ok. Check it out at Royal Military College, Duntroon.115.129.16.144 (talk) 00:22, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I must have forgotten to log on when I posted this - this comment was by me. That was dumb. Sorry.AustralianRupert (talk) 05:44, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks good - you may want to consider putting it in the info box if you can. Cheers. Anotherclown (talk) 10:20, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Tried that, for some reason it chucks a wobbly and won't allow it. Might be the useless blob in between the keyboard and the chair, though. AustralianRupert (talk) 10:45, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Nah, not this time. Its probably got something to do with the template being used... I'll have a look at it one day. Anotherclown (talk) 11:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

VC List
List of Gurkha Recipients of the Victoria Cross has been done now. I think it is not too bad, although I guess most of the work was already done. I'm thinking of doing a list of (British) Gurkha battle honours also. There are 161 in total, I believe. Has there been any similar lists made? I could use the format to maintain consistency. Plus it makes the html stuff easier.AustralianRupert (talk) 10:56, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The list looks great - I added a link to it in the VC nav box now. Re the battle honours - not sure I'm afraid.Anotherclown (talk) 11:28, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Military history Coordinator Elections
As a member of the WikiProject who is running for coordinator it is so go great to see people getting involved. It seems as if most of the members truly do care about the future of the WikiProject. Keep Up the Good work. Have A Great Day! Lord Oliver  The Olive Branch 22:06, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Edward Hutton (British Army officer)
Regarding this edit, I think the lower-case "b" is more grammaticly appropriate. Why do you think the opposite? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:30, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

6 RAR
Hi, mate, when you get back from your course can you take a look at 6th Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment for me. I've expanded it quite a lot as it was a pretty sad page before. I think it is pretty good now, but it lacks for Current Operations and Current Structure. I was hoping that being a 6 man you might be able to help, at least with the Current Structure part. Cheers. AustralianRupert (talk) 06:21, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Australian Aces
Do you have a book on Australian Aces - I seem to remember seeing it at your place? I have had a request to help out on making a list of Australian air aces, and thought you might be able to help out?


 * Hmmm, I might - remind me to have a look in a week when I get home. Cheers. Anotherclown (talk) 09:55, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey mate, yeah I have a book that could help - 'Australian Air Aces' by Dennis Newton (1996). Just having problems finding any spare time - SCA nightmares at work.... argh!!!!!! Anotherclown (talk) 09:08, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Military History Assessment page
Hi mate, if you would like to have articles assessed, please add them to the list at WP:MHA. If you would like peer review (for more involved comments) go to WP:MHPR. AustralianRupert (talk) 11:04, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

39th Battalion
I'm trying to get 39th Battalion (Australia) up to at least a B class. I've done quite a bit of work on it, but it still lacks a few citations. Just wondering if you had anything that might help. Namely, the book by Austin that is listed in the references in the article. AustralianRupert (talk) 05:25, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry bud - don't have it. Take it easy.Anotherclown (talk) 09:11, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * No worries - I think I've fixed it up pretty well now. I trust you got through DO without any dramas. AustralianRupert (talk) 00:51, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

An interesting tool
Hi, mate. Take a look at this. It is an edit counter that will show you specifically what you have been working on the most.

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Hope you didn't get mugged for your sword on the trip back from Central today...that would have been pretty hard to explain to the RSM. AustralianRupert (talk) 02:23, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Cheers. Did that happen to someone you know? Ouch! Anotherclown (talk) 07:20, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * No, I don't think so. A constant worry though... AustralianRupert (talk) 10:53, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

14th Light Horse Regiment
Hi mate, can you take a look at 14th Light Horse Regiment? I've expanded it from a stub, but am a bit concerned about the way I've treated it due to the confusing lineage of the unit. I have treated it like the WWI infantry battalions and the militia battalions that were raised afterwards (essentially we treat them as the same unit). The 14th Light Horse Regiment was a WWI unit, however, its battle honours were given it seems to a QMI unit that was raised in 1860 (27th Light Horse which subsequently became the 14th in 1922). Hence I have written the article by providing a brief outline of the units history back to 1860, discussing also the WWI unit. Anyway, take a look and let me know if you think I've treated it correctly, or if you think that the WWI unit should be treated separately. Cheers. AustralianRupert (talk) 10:53, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I just had a look - its very good and its logical, I'd run with that. I made two very minor changes (just a link to colonial forces of Australia and added the date to the Defence Act). Great work. Anotherclown (talk) 21:11, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Cheers, mate. AustralianRupert (talk) 22:50, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Military history of Australia during the Boer War draft
Hi mate, I made a few tweaks — not much I'm afraid. I will try to look at it a bit more and do what I can. It is looking very good so far. A couple of suggestions:


 * Odgers reference: in the References section I think you have included the wrong Odgers book. You have one about the Korean War published 2000, but the citation has 1994 which I think is the Diggers book (but you may have the other version so I didn't change it).
 * Sections: the article needs to be broken down into a defined structure to meet B class criteria # 3. You would probably need to do a new lead that summarises the whole article, then perhaps make a number of sections. Some suggestions: Background, ? (Main section - but not sure what to call it yet), Aftermath, etc. Perhaps you could do a section on consequences for politics and military planning (not sure if there would be enough sources for this though)?

Hope this helps. AustralianRupert (talk) 23:29, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Can you fix that ref please - I don't have the book its one of yours. It is the first volume of the two volume set you have. Thanks. Anotherclown (talk) 23:34, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Don't worry - i found the details online. Cheers. Anotherclown (talk) 23:39, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I am sitting here with the book on the desk beside me...I will add in a few more refs from the book if you want. AustralianRupert (talk) 00:07, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Indonesia-Malaysia Confrontation
Hi are you currently working on a Military history of Australia during the Indonesia-Malaysia Confrontation article? I ask ask I've just started writing it and don't want to duplicate your efforts! Nick-D (talk) 00:41, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I've just started the article - hope this is OK! Nick-D (talk) 01:21, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * No worries - I haven't really started. Cheers. Anotherclown (talk) 02:39, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

GA Review for Military history of Australia during World War I
Hi mate, the GA review for Military history of Australia during World War I can be found here: Talk:Military history of Australia during World War I/GA1. I don't know much about many of the points raised, so I can't really fix them. To be honest I'm a bit browned off by the whole process. None of my articles get passed for GA anyway, so I am starting to think why bother. Anyway, its there if you can help. — AustralianRupert (talk) 07:12, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks painful. I have added a section on fighting the Senussi Arabs, hope it helps. Anotherclown (talk) 00:07, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, the typos... as usual. At least you found them I guess.... Anotherclown (talk) 00:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries, thanks for your help. There is another in it, but I am not sure what it should say. It is as follows: ''composite force British force ". Can you please fix this?
 * Also, I have removed all the tables (not particularly happy about that, but anyway), and have replaced the AFC table with a template/ribbon at the bottom of the page. I had to create it myself as no one else seemed willing to do so. Anyway, it is my first template. Do you know anything about templates? Can you check I did it right, please?
 * It is this one — Template:List of Australian Flying Corps Squadrons. — AustralianRupert (talk) 01:40, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for all of your help with this article. It has now been promoted to GA largley because of the input of yourself, Nick-D, Hawkeye7 and Lawrencema. Your section on the operations against the Sennusi was particularly helpful. Cheers. — AustralianRupert (talk) 03:41, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks

 * No worries bud. :-) Anotherclown (talk) 07:30, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Jungle division
Great work on re-writing this article! It was one of the first articles I started, and was long-overdue for improvement. Nick-D (talk) 00:53, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Collapse
You've fixed some campaignbox templates into collapse form. But I think it's only worth for the Vietnam War, other such as Korean War are not necessary, because those templates aren't that long like the Vietnam War template. 71.165.197.22 (talk) 23:41, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Battle of Bau
I've just written an article on Battle of Bau, similar to some of the other Confrontation articles you've worked on. I didn't have much source material to go on, unfortunately, so I was wondering if you had any general British histories of Confrontation that might help to give some context to the article. The aftermath section could use some sort of contextual summation, if possible, but I don't have anything that can provide this. Hope you can help. I've added this battle it to the template dealy, also and to the Indonesia-Malaysia Confrontation article. It was actually reasonablly significant, as a Gurkha received a VC for this operation and two MCs also resulted. — AustralianRupert (talk) 07:38, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey - great work. Yeah I have a couple of decent books on the subject. Will work on it over the coming week before I go away. Take it easy. Anotherclown (talk) 09:38, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Howdy, finally got round to it. There is not much that really needs to be added. Just added a bit of context at the beginning and end of the article and a couple of refs. Also according to one of my refs there were 3 MCs (another one to the FOO). Once again great work. Anotherclown (talk) 04:47, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Cheers, mate. Looks good. Thanks. — AustralianRupert (talk) 09:01, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Battle of Bismarck
Hi, mate. When you get back from Tasmanian Excalibur ;-) you might want to have a look at a new article that has been started. It is Battle of Bismarck, about the 23–24 April 2007 OBG(W) contacts in Iraq. The article is a stub at the moment, but it might progress in between now and the time you get back, but take a look if you are interested. Cheers. — AustralianRupert (talk) 00:46, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I have some concerns about the accuracy of the dates of the contacts added to the Battle of Al Rumaythah article - indeed pretty sure they are actually the incidents that comprised the Battle of Bismarck in 2007 (note same dates). Also fairly sure AMTG only became OBG(W) in September 2006 and given the Obg2soldier says they were fought by OBG(W) 2 seems to indicate to me they occurred in 2007... Trying to confirm this but hard without people citing things when they add them. Anyway please have a look at the respective talk pages for both entries. Cheers. Anotherclown (talk) 21:58, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Seen. Yes the prelude includes 23 and 24 April 2006, stating they are the first two incidents before Al Rumaythah engagement on 26 Sep 2006. Could be a coincidence, but possibly not. If the year should be 2007, then Al Rumaythah would then be the first and the 23-24 April would be the second and third...I will see if I can find anything to confirm but don't have anything specific on the incidents unfortunately. — AustralianRupert (talk) 23:07, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

review of Hermann Detzner
thanks for taking a look at the Hermann Detzner article. Could you be specific, please on referencing criterion not met? And Grammar not met? --Auntieruth55 (talk) 16:02, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In order to meet the B class criteria each paragraph has to have at least one cite. I can see that since the recent additions the article now meets that criteria - good work. The only thing I would suggest is adding page numbers to all the cites. Cheers. Anotherclown (talk) 10:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll check on page numbers. although in some cases the articles are only one page. Thanks for tweaking the box. The "Nightingale" medal is actual Nachtigal, named for Gustav Nachtigal.  I can see you made a few other tweaks as well.  I'll deal with page numbers later this week.  Will you change the rating?  --Auntieruth55 (talk) 18:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * according to the sources, it was Holdsworthy in 1919...which is why I had the pipe in the link. Is that not true?  --Auntieruth55 (talk) 20:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * This is a very interesting point - you may be right. I'm no expert on Sydney surburbs and can find no definative source either way. Regardless a quick internet search does indeed reveal that the internment camp near Liverpool may have been referred to as Holdsworthy with a 'd'. Anotherclown (talk) 21:17, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * so what do you think? switch it back? Are citations still not met?  and grammar?  I don't see how I can add more citations, other than page# for Meade, but I don't have the book anymore.--Auntieruth55 (talk) 22:12, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Howdy, yeah I would switch it back. In regards to its assessment as I have worked on the article a bit now I don't think I can really change its assessment (might be seen as poor form). I suggest nominating it for reassessment at WikiProject_Military_history/Assessment/Requests. In regards to grammer and references I think the article just needs a copy edit to pull it over the line, especially in regards to citation style which needs to be consistent through out the whole article. Have a look at the Manual of Style for some pointers. Once again its a very interesting article and is a good effort. I understand the wikipedia assessment process can be pretty annoying but hang in there. I'm glad you have had the patience to stick with it this long. I hope this helps. Anotherclown (talk) 00:20, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I've added a paragraph on Legacy which links back to that picture. I went through the citations and made them consistent italics for titles, bold for journal names etc. before I left on vaca, so it looks pretty good. I'll let it sit a while and take a look when I get back next week.  Thanks for your contributions.  I've requested a review and maybe someone will get to it by the time I get back.  :)  Cheers!  --Auntieruth55 (talk) 13:07, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

New article
Hi, mate. I have finished an article I've been working on for a while in my sandbox. It seems that Harry Gladwyn Harcourt was the main person who recruited Australians to serve during the Russian Civil War. I had a hard time finding his OBE citation on the Its an honour website. I eventually found it, turns out the GG's office has the wrong details (name). I've emailed them to see if they can fix, but no response as yet. Eventually found the London Gazette citation, too. Article needs assessment too if you want to have a crack. — AustralianRupert (talk) 06:41, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thats a good article, top effort. I have assessed as a B - if only we could get a picture of the bloke though. That would really add to it. I had a look on the AWM site but couldn't find any. Anotherclown (talk) 08:18, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, mate. There's an AWM photo in the Trigellis-Smith book but for some reason he doesn't include the AWM negative/file number. I've searched AWM for hours trying to find it and can't for some reason. — AustralianRupert (talk) 08:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Operation Entebbe layout
Hi. I just wanted to let you know that I reverted your edit to the Operation Entebbe article. It is wise to bunch the infoboxes together, but sometimes it makes the layout look not so good. That's why I've moved the one box to the Hijack section, and the box belongs also to that section. Just wanted to let you know! Kind regards,  Lourie Pieterse  10:01, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Military history of Australia during the Vietnam War
Hi, mate, I'm trying to get Military history of Australia during the Vietnam War up to a GA in line with the WWI and WWII Military history of Australia articles. As it is not a subject that I have much knowledge of, I'm trying to get a group of interested editors together. When you get back to the real world I'd appreciate your help. Hope you enjoyed your time in the J. Cheers. — AustralianRupert (talk) 06:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)