User talk:Anthony Appleyard/2012/January-June

Evangelion movies

 * Why did you remove them from the technical requests entry? There are just redirects in the way of moving and one newbie who completely fucked up moving one of the pages.— Ryulong ( 竜龙 ) 00:43, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I've already moved the second film in the quadrology because there was no redirect in the way. Why do these other two need discussion?— Ryulong ( 竜龙 ) 00:51, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I thought that a final fullstop would be queryable by Wikipedia rules about article name, and it proved so: see Talk:Evangelion: 1.0 You Are (Not) Alone. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:47, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Abortion amendment request
Hello. I have made a request to the Arbitration Committee to amend the Abortion case, in relation to the structured discussion that was to take place. The request can be found here. Regards, Steven   Zhang  Join the DR army! 04:07, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Merge request

 * Hey Anthony, two similar articles were merged but they have an overlapping page history. Only some wording from the original survives in the new one but a history merge would be good. The creator of the article with the desired name copied from the original, so I just had to make a redirect. Can you merge the page history of Noyyal Oarathuppalayam (not desired) prior to 21 November 2011 with Orathuppalayam Dam (desired)? Thanks.--NortyNort (Holla) 21:21, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * At 08:53, 21 November 2011‎ page Orathuppalayam Dam was started as a copy-and-paste (not cut-and-paste) of page Noyyal Oarathuppalayam. History-merging here as asked would need me to break one edit history to re-connect another edit history. Therefore I am limiting myself to putting history notes in these articles' talk pages. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:23, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Technical move requests

 * Hello - I see you moved two of my technical requests to the main discussion section: Registered representative (securities), and Women in development approach. The reason I put them in the technical request section is because, according to WP:RM, "If the page has recently been moved without discussion, then you may revert the move (although this is not required, and may not always be possible) and initiate a discussion of the move on the talk page of the article. (See also: Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle.)" Since I'm not an admin, I couldn't revert them myself, so I needed an admin to do so. If it was technically possible, I would have done it on my own - why should the process be different just because the target page wouldn't let me revert? Thanks in advance for your reply. Dohn joe (talk) 07:32, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The move of Registered representative (securities) has been queried by people, so it seems that me moving it to discussed was justified. A move of Women in development approach was already being discussed, so I merged those 2 discussions. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:17, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response. Do you see my point, though, that the only reason I couldn't do BRD was due to technical reasons? Normally, I'd be able to revert, and then the burden would be back on the person who made the undiscussed change. Now, if there's no consensus, chances are good that the title will stay where it is now, instead of where it had been before. So the fact that there was an objection shouldn't change the fact that this was procedural. Does that make sense? Dohn joe (talk) 17:37, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Any thoughts? Dohn joe (talk) 17:48, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * See Talk:Registered representative (securities) and Talk:Women in development approach. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:21, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but my question is: I was looking for an admin simply to facilitate a BRD request that I couldn't do on my own. Now, it looks like the "status quo" is the new title, and if there's no consensus in the move debate, it'll stay at the new title, whereas if this had been a regular title that I could moved back, no consensus would have meant it stayed at the original title. The only difference is a technicality. I guess what I'm saying is - in a BRD situation, shouldn't the admin automatically move the title back? Thanks for your thoughts. Dohn joe (talk) 21:42, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Currently both these moves are being discussed. The best choice is for you to take part in those discussions. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:10, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I appreciate that for those cases. But I'm trying to ask you a more general question. Dohn joe (talk) 23:18, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking care of my technical move request regarding the Romanesco Image (File:Fractal_Broccoli.jpg) However, even though it says "File:Romanesco Broccoli2.jpg" in the description, it doesn't actually link anywhere and the title is still the same. Is this changable?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newtang (talk • contribs) 08:01, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Lydda Battle of Jerusalem

 * If this place is, as you say, not Latron, can you tell me where it is and what your source is? :)--Rskp (talk) 03:02, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Have just stumbled across a reference to Lydda being Ludd. Is this correct? --Rskp (talk) 03:20, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Lydda (Crusaders' name (usual in English usage)), Ludd (Arabic), Lod (Hebrew), are all the same place. Latrun is another place. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:26, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot. --Rskp (talk) 02:21, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for doing the move, but a WP:HISSPILT is needed. This should be the first one. Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 11:17, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Page Birthday Cake (song)'s log contains no mention of a move, except by me on 8 Jan 2012; it looks likelier that User:Calvin999 twice (16:45, 10 November 2011‎ and 01:15, 4 January 2012‎) blanked and restarted page Birthday Cake (song), which he seems to have been nearly the sole editor of. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:34, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * In my request, I did write that only the edits after the 6th Jan need to be included. Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 11:41, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * What are you doing?!!? What is the Man Down version 2 thing? Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 12:43, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The earlier parts of Birthday Cake (song), which I had brought across from User:Calvin999/Sandbox4, were about the Rihanna songs You Da One and Man Down; I have moved those edit history sections to You Da One/version 2 and Man Down/version 2, as in those 2 cases history-merge was unadvisable because of WP:Parallel histories. You seem to have seen matters partway through the job. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:51, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you want me to move You Da One/version 2 and Man Down/version 2 back to User:Calvin999/Sandbox4? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:04, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Lol I was getting so confused. No, I don't need the edits for You Da One or Man Down now. Thanks. Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 13:30, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

iCarly season articles

 * I don't know if you were watching the iCarly talk pages or not, but the season articles are ready to be moved (4→3 and then 5→4). Thanks.  Kevinbrogers (talk) 20:32, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:33, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your help! Kevinbrogers (talk) 23:34, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

odd link

 * What's with this link you added to eBay? Doesn't seem relevant; if you weren't such an experienced editor, I'd just pull it with a "WTF?" comment. --jpgordon:==( o ) 16:37, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Oops. I put it in a wrong page. Sorry. I have removed it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:43, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks

 * Hello- I'm assuming you're better versed on history merges than I am, but it would appear that 's edits, which form the basis of 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks after a now-blocked sock-puppet copypasted them there from 2011 Southern California fires, have been lost, hidden away in the page history of another redirect, 2011 Los Angeles arson spree. I'm willing to trust your judgement in the matter, but I'd hate to see an editor's edits lost. If a history merge is not appropriate, could you leave a quick note at User talk:J Milburn/archive34 explaining why, as much for my benefit as for BCS's? Thanks! J Milburn (talk) 22:39, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I can find only these edits by User:Bar Code Symmetry in 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks and 2011 Los Angeles arson spree. At 16:51, 2 January 2012‎ and 22:10, 2 January 2012‎ he text-edited 2011 Los Angeles arson spree. At 20:40, 2 January 2012‎ he redirected 2011 Southern California fires to 2011 Los Angeles arson spree, and the next edit to 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks was at 21:41, 2 January 2012‎ when User:YummyDonutsmmm copied in new text from I-know-not-where. The only edit history of 2011 Southern California fires is 2 redirects. I see nothing to histmerge. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:10, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * J Milburn meant at 2011 Los Angeles arson spree BCS  (Talk) 23:30, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, there has been a text-merge. History-merge after text-merge is not recommended: see WP:Parallel histories. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:14, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Clarification on page moves

 * Since I'm getting conflicting advice on moving pages out of my sandbox, what procedure would you suggest I follow in the future the next time I rewrite an article in my sandbox? (although I don't have any more such articles planned).  C üRly T üRkey  Talk Contribs 02:06, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I always rewrite such an article (say Zxcvbnm) where it is.
 * If User:Someone/Sandbox:Zxcvbnm starts as a copy-and-paste of Zxcvbnm, and if you do the sandbox editing quickly before Zxcvbnm has accumulated more edits, histmerging may be possible. Otherwise, to avoid annoying people who had edited Zxcvbnm where it was in the meantime, leave User:Someone/Sandbox:Zxcvbnm where it was and call for a discussed move User:Someone/Sandbox:Zxcvbnm to Zxcvbnm.
 * No history difficulties start with using a sandbox to start a new page. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:19, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Capitalization moves

 * User:Jojalozzo has started an RFC on capitalization of some titles of Christianity articles, but before and during it has been doing lots of moves contribs. ‎Many like (moved Jesus at Herod's Court to Jesus at Herod's court: common noun) seem fine, but ‎(moved Talk:Last Supper in Christian art to Talk:Last supper in Christian art: common noun per WP:DOCTCAPS) clearly wrong on any count. Others: ‎ (moved Great Commission to Great commission: per WP:DOCTCAPS), ‎ (moved Commissioning the twelve Apostles to Commissioning the twelve apostles: common noun per WP:DOCTCAPS) - not Twelve Apostles?, ‎ (moved Synoptic Gospels to Synoptic gospel over redirect: common noun, WP:SINGULAR) - might be debatable, but were not debated. There is also a section on his talk page.  What do you think? Those not mentioned seem ok to me. Cheers, Johnbod (talk) 02:33, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

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Lists of fictional animals
Hi Anthony, thanks for seeing the job through in one go. Very neat work, as one would expect! Happy New Year, enjoy the day off – Fayenatic (talk) 18:44, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Western Roads Policing Unit


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Merge Request
Hi I'm responding to your qustion about my request but cant find our original conversation so I statrted a new section can you look in to this request  I propose that Macedonians (religious group) be merged into Pneumatomachi   TucsonDavid U . S . A . 19:34, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

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Community of Wikipedia
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Twick.it

 * Sry, but can you explain me (again) in this case the parallel history? The AFC draft edits were made by an ip and are identical (with the exception of the external links section) to the first edit of the actual mainspace. I agree - after that the history is useless of the AFC draft since we automated AFC stuff (and thus resulting the difference in the kb) Regards, mabdul 14:02, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ the histmerge, except the late edits in Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Twick.it which were merely editing a leading tag. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:10, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Mazda Familia

 * As per the Project Automobile guidelines, the Mazda Familia article stays under that name. The Familia range has been sold across the English-speaking world as the 800, 1000, 1200, 1300, 323, GLC, Protégé, and most likely many other names as well. Judging by your talkpage, you lack ability to communicate with others, but I nonetheless request that you afford the rest of us the respect to discuss before committing any major changes such as this.  ⊂&#124; Mr.choppers &#124;⊃   (talk) 07:46, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I merely obeyed a history-merge request put in page Mazda Familia at 05:29, 1 February 2012‎ by User:Michael Greiner. The prime culprit here seems to be edits to page Mazda Familia by User:Chacha15 between 15:56, 31 January 2012‎ and 16:50, 31 January 2012‎. Sorry. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:27, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I realized after some more searching. I apologize about my tone - sorry! Hopefully I'll be a better collaborator in the future. Best regards,  ⊂&#124; Mr.choppers &#124;⊃   (talk) 23:04, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Confused

 * diff
 * I'm not sure what this is. Could you please explain? - jc37 19:46, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I transferred the "whether to move?" discussion from Category talk:Fictional Japanese swordsmen: category moves are handled specially and not the same way as page moves. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:31, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. Thank you for clarifying. Well, Jupiter is a repetitively banned sockpuppeteer. No idea about the ip, but a checkuser mught not be a bad idea, I think.
 * In the meantime, would you be willing to revert self and delist (for now) til we find out? - jc37 02:00, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Since then, 2 more users have replied to it. I better let it run. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:16, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks...
...for your histmerge and move work on Flight of Fear, i.e. cleaning up other people's messes. —  AjaxSmack  20:03, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Flemish Primitive

 * Sorry to trouble you again, but Early Netherlandish painting, on which several editors have been doing a lot of work, was moved to FP by a Dutch editor who has not been working on the page. Both the article & old sections on talk explain why this is not the correct term in English, unlike some languages. If possible, please reverse the move, Many thanks, Johnbod (talk) 02:06, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:46, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Great - thanks! Johnbod (talk) 14:06, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

HELP!!
Hi. Can you please help. I created an article from a redirect (John Turner Sargent, John Turner Sargent, Sr.) but the talk pages are screwed up. Thanks!! Quis separabit? 04:15, 8 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Quis separabit?  13:42, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview
Dear Anthony Appleyard,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, were it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:
 * Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
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Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

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 * Unfortunately, I am in England, and travelling to the USA to Michigan for this would be too long and difficult for me. Sorry. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:39, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

The Hobbit (2012 film)
I had this page deleted so I could reverse a controversial page move. By recreating the redirect I have to go through the request process again. Please don't recreate pages which have been deleted by an admin, there are usually good reasons for why they are deleted. Betty Logan (talk) 11:24, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, I may be falsely accusing you here since your edit history doesn't seem to show you have edited it! I'm a bit confused, but if I've falsely accused you then please accept my apologies, but if you did there's no harm done because another admin has taken care of it now. Basically the problem was that an editor moved the page while a rename discussion was going on, and then a bot edited the redirect stopping us moving it back. I requested a page delete, but then it looked like it was deleted and you had recreated it, but then it got deleted again and your edit history doesn't show any of this. I'm more confused than what you probably will be when you read this! Betty Logan (talk) 12:48, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Oregon State University Mars Rover/copyvio query
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Undated move requests
Hi Anthony. Looks like we have both been struggling with unsigned move requests that ended up in the "Time could not be ascertained" subsection and refused to leave. After some research (meaning trial and error) I have reached the conclusion that the remedy is to give it a new time stamp, i.e. the current time rather than when the request was made. Looking for instance at the history of the Web visitor tracking request, the time stamp replacement led to it finally being promoted. Favonian (talk) 20:37, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Politechnika Warszawska PW-2 Hist merge
Thank you for doing this. It should never be necessary, hopefully he now understands and won't do any more cut-n-paste moves! - Ahunt (talk) 22:57, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Paul Quinn move request
Hello, you previously commented on a Paul Quinn (rugby union) move request that was subsequently closed with 'no consensus'. I have restarted the discussion on this and invite you to participate again.  Schwede 66  17:48, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Shakespeare's life

 * Do you have access to this deleted page please? It seems we need it back! ATB. --Old Moonraker (talk) 18:17, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Someone has already undeleted it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:41, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --Old Moonraker (talk) 07:54, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Abortion article titles notification
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sorry
sorry, it looks like I made a lot of work for you with the Script article. Peter Flass (talk) 13:16, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

A question for the Oracle of history merges...

 * I have, in the past, been involved in creating and maintaining articles related to Mitsubishi Motors. Because of this, I had a talk sub-page, User talk:DeLarge/Mitsubishi, and obviously the history is separate from my regular talk page. I've now decided against this approach, so step one was to painstakingly copy/paste all the conversations into my regular archives.
 * I was then going to ask for a history merge, but I came across rules about not deleting talk pages and now I'm getting paranoid. So before I make a formal request, can I just confirm that a history merge of User talk:DeLarge and User talk:DeLarge/Mitsubishi is (a) technically possible, and (b) allowed? Cheers in advance, --DeLarge (talk) 23:43, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Oops, almost forgot to mention: User:DeLarge/Mitsubishi was just a sandbox page. It doesn't need merged anywhere, only the two talk page histories. --DeLarge (talk) 23:49, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Regrettably, histmerge is not possible here: these 2 pages have too much WP:Parallel histories. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Derived fossil merger
I merged an article you created, Derived fossil into the fossil article. Reason being that it was created years ago, but is still a stub with few edits. That implies that not many people are even going to the page. More worthwhile to have it redirect to the main fossil article. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 03:56, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Wanda (name)

 * Hi, thank you for your merging page history of Wanda and Wanda (name). Please also move Talk:Wanda (name) to Talk:Wanda. Thanks! --Pengyanan (talk) 12:07, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:17, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Pengyanan (talk) 13:13, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Twistgrip


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 * Non-notable subject. In researching this I could not find suitable refs. The term is used in many different ways but any refs found provided nothing more than a dictionary definition at very best; most refs located were mere passing mentions. As per Wikipedia is not a dictionary this article has little scope for becoming more than a dictionary definition, even if sourced.

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 * I see you have taken this article to AFD. In reading the AFD page Articles for deletion/Twistgrip you haven't finished the nomination by giving your reason, though. Do you want to finish that before other editors comment? - Ahunt (talk) 18:40, 3 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I see that is fixed now. I think I was just editing ahead of you there! - Ahunt (talk) 18:47, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for all your work cleaning up the Producers (band) situation. Bondegezou (talk) 11:46, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Lists of mathematics articles

 * Someone made a requested move for Lists of mathematics articles but did not announce the request either on the talk page or at the mathematics wikiproject, so nobody would have known about it to register opposition. I would prefer to see a genuine RM discussion on the talk page, since I for one don't agree with the rename. Would you mind moving the page back to the original name to restore the staus quo? I will open a RM discussion after that. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 13:41, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:58, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I opened a discussion thread there and announced it to the math project. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 17:52, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Martha
How come you didn't move Martha of Bethany to Martha per the WP:RM request? It seems like an uncontroversial request - the previous move from Martha to Martha of Bethany was clearly done without consensus. So shouldn't it be moved back to Martha per Requested moves and then have a discussion take place? StAnselm (talk) 07:01, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Martha, again

 * I've taken the liberty, as an uninvolved editor, to close this RM and request deletion of the Martha redirect page, so the page move can be reverted ( I moved what was there to Martha/redirects, as you suggested). And I've told ArchieOof to put his suggestion through WP:RM if he thinks it holds water. I trust you are OK with that, Moonraker12 (talk) 18:03, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Following on from this, the Martha/redirect page got deleted! I've requested the admin responsible if it can be restored; can it? Moonraker12 (talk) 22:44, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I have undeleted Martha/redirects. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:47, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Ahh! thanks! Moonraker12 (talk) 23:16, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

RM closed and alternative Talk:Dispute_about_Jesus'_execution_method
Hi, I know you watch RMs anyway, but this page seems particularly problematic so more experienced 3rd party eyes welcome. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:48, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Aqua Buddha listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Aqua Buddha. Since you had some involvement with the Aqua Buddha redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Smcg8374 (talk) 06:09, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Template history merge

 * if you are able to, could you merge this history of template:infobox Disney ride into template:infobox Disney attraction (and the same for the talk page). it was cut-and-paste moved earlier today.  thank you. Frietjes (talk) 19:19, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, : Some WP:Parallel histories, and these 2 templates are very different at the supposed cut-and-paste point. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:19, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * If you take the history from template:Infobox Disney ride before March 16, 2012, it should match up with the history of template:Infobox Disney attraction from March 16, 2012 onwards. For example, this version is the same as this version. If you can't do it, I can ask another admin. Frietjes (talk) 22:26, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:35, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the history merge. Do you think we need to keep the redirect at ? It has no transclusions left and the history is unimportant. J IM ptalk·cont 23:18, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Someone may still use it. "Disney ride" is a likely expression for people to use. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:21, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, and I'd say let 'em just get used to the fact that it's "attraction" now. To me it seems less confusing for users if we've got one code to do a certain task rather than having a bunch of diferent options.  It seems to me that that's the basic rationale behind WP:T3.  Of course, this goes beyond this particular redirect.  Perhaps it might be good to wait and see when, how, by whom, why and whether Disney ride gets used.  If it doesn't prove useful, perhaps it can be RFDed. J IM ptalk·cont 00:16, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

File:Aa US Navy explosive ordnance disposal (EOD) divers.jpg listed for deletion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Aa US Navy explosive ordnance disposal (EOD) divers.jpg, has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Cloudbound (talk) 20:05, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Epic Mickey 2

 * I request a history merge of Epic Mickey 2 & Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two. SNS (talk) 03:00, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:21, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Template:US$ protection

 * This discussion has been moved to Template talk:US$. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:58, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Landesa and Rural Development Institute (RDI)

 * Can you have a look at Landesa and Rural Development Institute (RDI)? They seem to be articles on the same thing (a non-profit once named "Rural Development Institute", since renamed to "Landesa"). It's a clear cut and paste move, but not a perfect one (e.g. compare this edit of RDI to this edit of Landesa - they're slightly but visibly different), and so histmerging might not be appropriate. Thanks. Miracle Pen (talk) 09:11, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ I history-merged Rural Development Institute (RDI) to Landesa. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:53, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Revert requested move

 * Can you please revert the technical move of Characters of Kingdom Hearts to List of Kingdom Hearts characters? User:George Ho suggested that it was uncontroversial in his move request but that is clearly not the case, since I reverted his assertion of such here, two days ago. Consensus at WP:SE is that certain pages about characters qualify as articles rather than lists because of their substantial contextual information (see Characters of Final Fantasy VIII, for example). Characters of Kingdom Hearts is a former featured article, not a list, for this very reason. Axem Titanium (talk) 06:07, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:30, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I left a message at the user's talk page to discuss further. Axem Titanium (talk) 01:06, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

List of diving hazards and precautions
Hi Anthony, I would appreciate your input on some changes I am considering for the format and possibly name of this article. Cheers, Peter (Southwood) (talk): 10:16, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Book of St. Albans

 * I see you edited this article some time ago: diff. The edit summary you gave there was "info". You in fact removed referenced information about parts of the book concerned with heraldry. You also added material which seems poorly sources about falconry, etc. Would you care to comment? Charles Matthews (talk) 21:17, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I have restored the matter which I deleted then. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:44, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've worked a bit on the article, and intend to expand it further. Charles Matthews (talk) 21:34, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Mario articles

 * Since Untitled Super Mario game (Wii U) is based on the tech demo (as it says in the article), shouldn't it be moved & history merged with New Super Mario Bros. Mii? SNS (talk) 03:59, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * See Articles for deletion/Untitled Super Mario game (Wii U). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:02, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

A histmerge you did

 * Hi, a user, at User talk:Androids101, has asked to have a page history merge you did involving a sandbox page of his undone. Just a heads-up, in case you'd like to comment. I'm not quite sure I understand the situation well. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:28, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * User:Future Perfect at Sunrise did the history-split. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:48, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Why the deletion on Asia Food Recipe

 * You can see from the history for Asia Food Recipe that I have been discussing with other editors about the content. It was nominated for speedy deletion and then deleted within 10 minutes. I left notable information on the talk page which was also deleted with the editor reviewing the comments. He returned the page and left notes about it. There is a discussion on the talk page (which it seems to be deleted by you as well). Please revert your deletion and allow the talk to continue on the discussion page. There are reasons why the page is notable; however, please let it play out on the talk page as opposed to deleting it. I am a notable editor and am not trying to create a page for promotional purposes (as thought by the other editor). It is difficult to continue the discussion as you deleted it. --Morning277 (talk) 13:43, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I have undeleted it and AfD'ed it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:52, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

A beer for you!
Asia Food Recipe Article Help!

New Super Mario Bros. 2

 * I request a history merge of Untitled Super Mario game (3DS) with it's announced title New Super Mario Bros. 2 (as well as their talk pages). SNS (talk) 13:04, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Untitled Super Mario game (3DS) has nothing to histmerge, only 4 redirect edits. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:30, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello

 * I see that you have deleted Forum:Base 12 is better than Base 10. This wasn't a test page, it was a forum page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avengingbandit (talk • contribs) 22:26, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
 * At 22:24, 21 April 2012 User:Σ tagged it for speedy delete as a test page. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:28, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
 * All right then. But how do I create a forum page?  Avengingbandit  22:32, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a forum host, sorry. Wikipedia has no pages whose names start "Forum:". See Talk page guidelines. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:39, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:All That Jazz

 * JHunterJ has closed it based on opposer's rationale and other considerations, such as "argument merits over numbers" and "guidelines of primacy". However, supporters have questioned the film's qualifications as "primary topic", and I'm questioning the closure. Also, JHunterJ has opposed some of my proposals, such as "It's Great to Be Alive" and "Firestarter", by using numbers and guidelines. Is this the right decision? --George Ho (talk) 20:24, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Opposer provided an applicable guideline and showed the how the criteria for the guideline were meat. Supporters did not provide any supporting guidelines or show how the criteria for the applicable guideline were met. -- JHunterJ (talk) 21:28, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * And there is also acceptable guideline for the plain name All That Jazz to be the disambig page. Names of countless articles about films have " (film)" at the end. This film has been around for 33 years, and in all time I had never heard of it until I read about it here: from the article it seems like an ordinary routine fiction film, not an enduring classic like Star Wars. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:11, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * That's the guidelines for the name of a disambiguation page if there's no primary topic. The guidelines for determining primary topic are readership usage and/or long-term significance. Since none of the topics appear to have the long term significance of "Star Wars", that criteria isn't used. Readership usage then indicates that the readership is being best served by the current arrangement, of the film at the primary topic and the others reachable either through the hatnote on the primary topic (the song) or through the dab page (the others). -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:26, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * If there is more discussion needed, can you or George Ho start a new section at Wikipedia talk:Requested moves? -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:18, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Please continue this discussion at Talk:All That Jazz.

Thanks!
I am not sure if I thanked you for this.

Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 03:48, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Lovin' You (Minnie Riperton song)
Was this concluded properly? Were my arguments flimsly? --George Ho (talk) 12:48, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Big
There are complaints about closure by JHunterJ for the Tom Hanks film. That's it. See Talk:Big. --George Ho (talk) 14:38, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Fault-block mountain move
Please could you take a second look at the Fault-block mountain --> Fault-block proposed move at Talk:Fault-block mountain? You are correct about many fault-blocks having no surface expression. However, the structure of Wikipedia was warped after the merge of Fault-block mountain & Fault-block into a single article, by giving the resultant article the specific instead of the general name. We would like to discuss fault-blocks as the major feature of the article, including those that have no surface expression, and discuss fault-block mountains in its own subsection of that article. Right now because of the previous merger the only place to discuss fault-blocks is here. Thanks for your time. --Bejnar (talk) 01:11, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Cut & paste move

 * Animal Crossing: Jump Out is a cut & paste of Animal Crossing (Nintendo 3DS). SNS (talk) 01:50, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Animal Crossing: Jump Out has only 1 edit, and Animal Crossing (Nintendo 3DS) has been edited since. I redirected Animal Crossing: Jump Out to Animal Crossing (Nintendo 3DS). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:23, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Zaask Deletion ?

 * Hi I did notice that you had deleted the Zaask page stating the information is not verifiable or relevant. However, all the information posted there has reference to publicly available articles published by some top journals from Portugal. Can i know an even more appropriate reason for the same ? Thanks Kirube (talk) 16:09, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It looks a lot like advertisement to me. See WP:SPAM. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:56, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Anthony, the site has garnered a lot of media attention and even support from government agencies here in Portugal. If you think there are parts of the article that needs to be re-written then it makes all the sense. I do not see this in anyway worse than the many silicon valley start-ups that have pages here. thanks 95.136.38.18 (talk) 07:38, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I have undeleted it and AfD'ed it: Articles for deletion/Zaask. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:56, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Fossil Wrist PDA‎ histmerge

 * Hello Anthony. Since you are the only editor I have ever seen perform histmerges, I thought I'd explain a confusing one I just tagged. Wrist PDA‎ was an article about a Fossil Wrist PDA‎, and an editor heavily modified the text, then cleared the page and made Abacus AU* series with the same content. Another editor appears to have made Fossil Wrist PDA‎ based on older content from Wrist PDA‎ (albeit expanded). I'm not quite sure the reasoning (I've been trying to sort through Special:Contributions/Avid0g), but these three articles do not appear to have any real edit-overlap, and are all based on the same content, so I was hoping their histories could be merged. Hopefully this makes sense. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  19:04, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Abacus AU* series and Wrist PDA to Fossil Wrist PDA Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:16, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:16, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thanks! ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  22:24, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

restored speedy
I restored Gajadhar Prasad Srivastava which you had deleted as no context--I assume it was just an error, because it gave his name and his position--a position which is, additionally, unquestionably notable. Since there were no refs, I put a BLP prod tag on it, which I will remove if I find any. (the no-context tag was put on by Alan Liefting, and I find it advisable to double check any deletion tag he adds, as only about 2/3 of them are valid.). If you disagree with me, please tell me why I was wrong.  DGG ( talk ) 21:43, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Blackmark
Did the closure accurately summarize all arguments? Maybe my arguments needs evidence, doesn't it? --George Ho (talk) 05:48, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Tree Fu Tom info

 * http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/news/tennant-joins-cbeebies-show-cast-16029699.html
 * http://davidtennantradioplays.webs.com/treefutomedisodes.htm
 * http://dt-forum.com/projs/2-uncategorised/20-tree-fu-tom
 * http://familyrelationships.org.uk/tree-fu-tom-the-boy-with-magical-powers-comes-to-cbeebies

New comment
I have made a comment at your talk section David Spector (user/talk) 20:44, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

PlayStation 4

 * I request history undeletions of PlayStation 4 & Playstation 4 (as well as their talk pages). I also request that Playstation 4 is redirected to the same section as PlayStation 4. SNS (talk) 04:05, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I have referred this request to Requests for undeletion. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:00, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * So what happens now that the request was archived without any kind of response? SNS (talk) 03:15, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The deleted edits of PlayStation4 are redirects and short notes.
 * PlayStation 4 has been deleted many times before and undeleting it now would be controversial:-
 * 19:09, 12 February 2009 PMDrive1061 protected Playstation 4‎ [create=sysop] (indefinite) (Repeatedly recreated) (hist | change)
 * 19:08, 12 February 2009 PMDrive1061 deleted page Playstation 4 (G1: Patent nonsense, meaningless, or incomprehensible)
 * 22:16, 10 February 2009 Jesse Viviano deleted page Playstation 4 (G12: Blatant copyright infringement of http://ps4talk.com)
 * 04:12, 29 December 2007 Xaosflux protected Playstation 4 (WP:JUPEd [create=sysop] (expires 2008-12-29T04:12:47 (UTC))) (hist | change)
 * 03:47, 20 December 2007 Xaosflux deleted page Playstation 4 (content was: '  Playstation 14  Add from Website www.bbspot.com/.../09/sony-playstation-4.html Tommy, Japan- Son resident Ken Kutaragi he ate a impromptu press conference , stunning the world by chewing the imminent re...')
 * 09:41, 20 November 2007 Hu12 deleted page Playstation 4 (content was: ' PlayStation 4 in 2010, Sony Execs Say A PS4 will be launched by Sony but not until at least 2010, claims the Vice President of echnology for Sony...')
 * 22:21, 19 November 2007 Irishguy deleted page Playstation 4 (CSD A1: Very short article providing little or no context)
 * 12:29, 4 November 2007 NawlinWiki deleted page Playstation 4 (a1 empty, wp:crystal content was: 'The playstation 4 is being designed by Hosikimota Hungkabiolakata from JapanYou will be able to feel what is happening on the PS4.There will ...' (and the only contributor was '[[Special:Contributions/Plainwhitets|Pl)
 * 04:18, 22 August 2007 Chaser deleted page Playstation 4 (word for word copy of PlayStation 3)
 * 14:37, 11 April 2007 Chairboy deleted page Playstation 4 (WP:CSD General criteria, subsection 4 - Repost of an article removed via a recognized deletion process that is identical or substantially alike.)
 * 03:59, 9 March 2007 Centrx deleted page Playstation 4 (New)
 * 18:09, 6 December 2006 J Di protected Playstation 4 (deletedpage [edit=sysop:move=sysop]) (hist | change)
 * 18:08, 6 December 2006 J Di deleted page Playstation 4 (article has been deleted in the paset)
 * 18:10, 19 November 2006 Cholmes75 deleted page Playstation 4 (repost)
 * 20:52, 5 October 2006 Steel deleted page Playstation 4 (CSD R1)
 * 23:29, 12 August 2006 Mailer diablo deleted page Playstation 4 (Articles for deletion/Playstation 4 (second nomination))
 * 17:42, 20 April 2006 Thorpe deleted page Playstation 4 (not confirmed)
 * 18:11, 31 January 2006 RHaworth deleted page Playstation 4 (repost - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Playstation 4)
 * 03:09, 18 December 2005 CesarB deleted page Playstation 4 (recreation of deleted article, created with vfd template already in place, content was: 'The Playstation 4 will presumably be the video game console to follow Sony's Playstation 3, itself unreleased as of [[December 005...')
 * 23:07, 3 August 2005 ABCD deleted page Playstation 4 (Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Playstation 4)
 * Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:50, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Requested moves

 * Ack, why did you list both Campus Life: Umarete Kite Yokatta and Everyday Zekkōchō! as full requests? The former is a bad title that no longer matches the current manual of style and the former is blocked due to technical reasons.— Ryulong ( 竜龙 ) 07:13, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * They were submitted as uncontroversial requests for me to obey at once, but they looked queryable to me, so I started move discussions for them. OK, OK, sorry, I have obeyed them. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:21, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'm sorry my original uncontroversial requests were not clear enough in their intentions.— Ryulong ( 竜龙 ) 11:02, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Government of National Salvation

 * Hi AA. I hope you believe me when I say there's no call for an RM discussion at the Government of National Salvation (occupied Yugoslavia) article. Noone opposes the removal of the disambig brackets, nor can I hypothetically imagine someone opposing it. I requested it as a technical move - because it really is such. Would you consider going through with the move? I'd be the first to revert in case there's any kind of opposition, but again, I can't even imagine it. If anything, the removal of the brackets elegantly solves a problem, rather than being the cause of one. -- Director  ( talk )  03:39, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:39, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * ty -- Director  ( talk )  05:33, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

What is for?
Thank you for merging the history for the article The Great Hunger: Ireland 1845-1849. I checked just now to see if it was done and saw a   template which issued the message, "Another editor has reviewed this page's proposed deletion, and endorses both the proposal and the reason given above. If you remove the  tag above, please also remove this    tag" (my italics).

Since the history merge has been performed successfully (as far as I can see) the job seems done so I do not understand the role of the or why there should be any lingering talk of "this page's proposed deletion", nor did I understand the reference to the , a template I did not see.

I removed the as it bothered me. I'd appreciate a brief note to clear all this up. This was the first time I submitted a request, so I am seeing the result for the first time. — O'Dea (talk) 02:53, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * When wanting a history-merge, adding is enough, it is not usual practice to add a  tag also. I thought that the proposed deletion was a matter separate from the request for a history-merge. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:03, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh no, I was not requesting any deletion, just a history merge. Sorry if I conveyed that by my actions. I thought adding was limited in its effect to requesting a merging; I had no idea there was some implied deletion aspect to its use. If I ever need to use it again, I will have to read more about it to find out how to ask for a merge only, without an unwanted deletion request. I can't see why the two should be associated.  — O'Dea  (talk) 06:17, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The basic way to history-merge X into Y is: delete Y, move X to Y, undelete Y. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:33, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you; it is good to have that insight into the technique. I presume the lingering was some leftover "sawdust", after the work, so to speak, because after the move had been successfully completed, any remaining talk of deletion was redundant, yet seeing it there made me nervous, so I removed it. Cheers!  — O'Dea  (talk) 10:23, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The old version of was , i.e. a type  of speedy-delete request, not a type of prodding (= proposing for deletion). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:20, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

A move consideration

 * Hello, Anthony. I appreciate all your hard work on behalf of Wikipedia.  I noticed that you recently moved Robert Shaw (actor) to Robert Shaw (British actor) and redirected the old title to the disambiguation page, based on a move request that was described as "uncontroversial."  The problem here is that there are over 100 other articles with links to the old title.  I would suggest that a move request that would break incoming links like this should never be considered "uncontroversial" and that if you see a request like this you should automatically move it to the "contested" section of WP:RM.  Thanks for considering this.  --R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:44, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, seen to. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:34, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Talk:The Boys in the Band

 * I have contacted the closer, JHunterJ, about this closure, but he hasn't responded. Supporter says that there are other topics that may be searchable in dab page more than hatnotes. Opposer says that numbers answers primary topic issue. Closure... was he accurate? --George Ho (talk) 00:40, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I have reverted the closure to allow more discussion, as its current vote is 1/1 and the discussion has run only 9 days. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:14, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * OTOH, WP:NOTVOTE, and "only" doesn't belong in front of "9 days" for WP:RMCI. When you reopened the move discussion, you should have relisted it. Of course, George Ho should have brought up the matter on WT:RM instead of running here in the first place. -- JHunterJ (talk) 19:43, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Danes - Danish people

 * Hello, I saw that you rejected the histmerge of Danes and Danish people as having parallel histories. As far as I can tell it was a cut-and-paste move with this edit at Danes on November 16, 2009‎, and this edit at Danish people, also on November 16, 2009‎ by the same author. The content itself does not appear to have a split history. The only edits that overlap are editors redirecting Danish people to different pages, and surely these can be hidden? ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  07:30, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ the histmerge. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:41, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! And thanks for always seeming to take care of these history merges. It can't be easy sorting through edits and comparing histories all the time. It's probably a pretty thankless task, but I'm glad that you do so much and that you do it so well. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  00:34, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Requesting WP:RFC/USER on User talk:JHunterJ?
Look at WT:Disambiguation. Who is wrong: Noetica or JHunterJ? Also, there have been complaints about JHunterJ's antics, such as "All That Jazz", "It's Great to Be Alive",, "Lovin' You", and "The Boys in the Band". I cannot hold on this any longer. What do you think? --George Ho (talk) 14:21, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Please do, if you cannot hold on this any longer. Some of these "antics" need broader review. -- JHunterJ (talk) 19:44, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Help with history merge

 * Hello Anthony, I saw your name on the HISTMERGE talk page, and assumed you could help me. A history merge is required at Tube Investments Of India Limited → Tube Investments of India Limited, but I'm not sure how to tag it properly, as it's not exactly a cut-and-paste-move situation, nor do I believe that either version should be completely deleted. In this case, both articles were created by the same user, who simply decided to ignore my page move and continued editing the redirect left behind, twice. It appears that we are now left with two partially complete articles of the same topic, but only one uses proper text-case in its title. Does the histmerge template still apply in this case? -- WikHead (talk) 12:03, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Histmerge not easily possible due to WP:Parallel histories. I have text-merged Tube Investments Of India Limited into Tube Investments of India Limited. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:41, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Excellent work Anthony! Thank you kindly for addressing this, as it was an issue related to my page-move that still hadn't been resolved, and I really felt a need to see it through. All the best to you, stay well, and happy editing! :) -- WikHead (talk) 15:30, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

technical request: move back to original title
Hi,

As you were the admin moving back the title at Shishapangma last December, may I ask you if it would be possible to make a similar move and restore the original title at Friendship Highway (Tibet)? I wish we can so avoid unnecessary lengthy discussions as it was the case with the Shishapangma move.

Thanks if you can have a look at Talk:China-Nepal_Highway. Pseudois (talk) 15:16, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I have started a discussion in Talk:China-Nepal Highway. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:19, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Pseudois (talk) 16:21, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Minnow moves

 * Hi, as to the history of Bluntnose minnow, started on 19 April 2012, the first two edits were evidently direct copy paste of the (whole) article that you now moved to Bluntnose minnow/version 2 - can't the histories of the two then be merged? In any case Bluntnose minnow/version 2 should not be in article name space? Thanks. Olaff (talk) 07:16, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:09, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Advice needed - HC Lev and HC Lev (2010–12)
Good day to you. In April 2012 you helped resolve a copy-paste move related to an article about the "Hockey Club LEV Poprad". I'm very grateful for that. However currently there is a new problem. There are two articles: HC Lev (2010–12) that deals with the original club from Hradec Králové and Poprad. And HC Lev that deals with the new club established in 2012. The current content (current revision) of both articles is correct. However what isn't is the revision history of both articles. They should be swapped. HC Lev (2010–12) should have the history that dates back to July 2010. While HC Lev should be a brand new article established on 17 May 2012.

In my opinion the following should be done: Revisions of HC Lev between 14:48, 16 July 2010‎ and 20:17, 17 May 2012‎ (including these 2 revisions) should be part of the HC Lev (2010–12) article. That is: The first revision of HC Lev should be 20:21, 17 May 2012‎ (article creation) while HC Lev (2010–12) creation date should be 14:48, 16 July 2010. HC Lev (2010–12) revisions from 20:20, 17 May 2012‎ to present and HC Lev revisions from 20:21, 17 May 2012‎ to present should remain the same.

Do you think this operation would be possible? Thank you. --IJK_Principle (talk) 22:26, 21 May 2012 (UTC)


 * What happened to page HC Lev is not a cut-and-paste but a text-split, which furthermore happened over 4 edit (see this diff) from 20:21, 17 May 2012‎ to 20:25, 17 May 2012‎ and not all at a single cut-point. The edit history before this point belongs with HC Lev, and page HC Lev (2010–12) is a new start, speaking in terms of Wikipedia page history rather than ice hockey club history. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:51, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * This means it's ok to leave the page histories as they are right now? All right then. It just seemed to me it would make more sense if the HC Lev (2010–12) article would retain the revision history dating back to July 2010 (since the current HC Lev article is about the new club established this year). But since it's an article split, it's not 100 % certain which of the two articles should have the original revision history that started in July 2010. --IJK_Principle (talk) 14:59, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * What matters is page history. If a page's topic gradually changes over time and editing, that cannot be helped. E.g. when I was sorting a jumble of pages and old cut-and-pastes on the subject of Black sheep, I found a page which had slowly accumulated other meanings of the term and ended as a disambig page. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:16, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

WP:Requested moves/Technical requests

 * I have added two sections that would make a history log of old technical requests that would be either completed or become controversial. Is archiving necessary? --George Ho (talk) 07:59, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I always change queried technical moves into standard discussed moves using .... . Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:02, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * What can we do with the "Completed requests" and "Moved to discussion" parts? --George Ho (talk) 08:11, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I suppose that I could start listing obeyed move requests in them, if you feel that there is need for that. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:45, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm not saying that archiving is required. However, archiving is beneficial, as archiving requests in WP:cut and paste move repair holding pen is beneficial. --George Ho (talk) 08:55, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Ferdinand Kingsley article

 * Hi, Almost exactly five years ago, 11:28, 27 May 2007 to be precise, you deleted the article Ferdinand Kingsley on the grounds that he was "NN student". That was probably true then, but things have moved on. Could you please reinstate the article so that I (and probably others) can bring it up to date and establish notability? Thanks. SamuelTheGhost (talk) 19:57, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Start a new article at Ferdinand Kingsley. If that proves, with references, that he is now noteworthy, then ask me again to undelete the 3 old edits. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:16, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Flag of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic

 * The previous consensus said Flag of Nagorno-Karabakh Republic. I wonder if you have noticed it. --George Ho (talk) 20:37, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, OK, ✅. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:44, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah. Remind me to double check talk pages, even on stubby articles. Sorry for the confusion, CMD (talk) 21:17, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!
For fixing my botched Drishti article move:)
 * Supaiku (talk) 23:25, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

nothing major

 * Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Quick question". Thank you. Agathoclea (talk) 07:57, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Village pump (technical)

Season 4 vs. Season 2
You have participated in Talk:Season 4 (30 Rock). Feel free to join discussion in WT:DAB. --George Ho (talk) 20:25, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi

 * I want to know if User:DragonZero/Sandbox is eligible to be moved to Tales of Graces by Requested moves. If not, am I supposed to do a cut and paste move? Thanks DragonZero  ( Talk  ·  Contribs ) 08:06, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:58, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks I appreciate it! 09:01, 1 June 2012‎ User:DragonZero
 * Hi, I've been wondering if Tales of Graces/version 2 is still needed or should it be tagged for deletion. Thanks DragonZero  ( Talk  ·  Contribs ) 23:09, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Uhh, delete it if you want to, I suppose. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:53, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Recreation of Biolan

 * I'm planning to recreate the article "Biolan". This time I will not wait until the next day to expand it and put in references :-) I think the company should be included in Wikipedia because:
 * It's a household name in Finland, with significant exports to Spain and other countries.
 * Established company with decades of history.
 * Won international awards for its products.
 * Environmental practices making it different from many other companies, such as operating its own wind power plant and sewage treatment facility.--Chino (talk) 12:26, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I know, some people are too quick to delete new stub articles before they can be expanded. Go ahead. While the page is still small, try inserting the tag Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:03, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Restiform Bodies (band)
I lifted the protection on Restiform Bodies (band) that you imported with the historymerge. No judgement on the article itself and future protection should it be deleted again. Agathoclea (talk) 17:58, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Mario for Wii U

 * Now that the Mario game for Wii U has been named, I request a history merge of Untitled Super Mario game (Wii U) & New Super Mario Bros. U. SNS (talk) 18:10, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:Parallel histories. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:37, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

An article you probably deleted is up and running again.

 * See: Web Biennial and this Your thoughts about this? --Shirt58 (talk) 12:42, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I did not delete it. I have AfD'ed it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:09, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon Talk Page

 * I request that Talk:Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon is made into a talk archive for Talk:Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon. SNS (talk) 01:53, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:41, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Sonic the Hedgehog 4

 * I request a history merge of Sonic the Hedgehog 4 & Sonic the Hedgehog 4 (disambiguation) so that the former can be turned into a disambiguation page again (Sonic the Hedgehog 4 was split into two articles for each episode). SNS (talk) 02:54, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:Parallel histories. I have revived and updated Sonic the Hedgehog 4 (disambiguation) as Sonic the Hedgehog 4. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:18, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Help Survey
Hi there, my name's Peter Coombe and I'm a Wikimedia Community Fellow working on a project to improve Wikipedia's help system. At the moment I'm trying to learn more about how people use and find the current help pages. If you could help by filling out this brief survey about your experiences, I'd be very grateful. It should take less than 10 minutes, and your responses will not be tied to your username in any way.

Thank you for your time,

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Manuscript moves
Hi Anthony! A user has done a bunch of undiscussed and unwise page moves in this area today. I imagine there's no need to explain why "N Gospel Book (British Library, MS Egerton 768) ‎ (Dohn joe moved page Gospel Book (British Library, MS Egerton 768) to Gospel Book (British Library manuscript): more appropriate disambiguation) (top)" was not a good idea! About a dozen, from 22.10 tonight on, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dohn_joe. All should be reverted, imo, except possibly Leiden Aratea, but even there I think we should use the consistent full name in the normal scholarly style. Sorry to call on you yet again. Thanks, Johnbod (talk) 01:00, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello - unwise editor here. I already replied to Johnbod on my user talkpage. I agree that "Gospel Book (British Library manuscript)" is too ambiguous. However, I do object to a simple revert of any of the moves I made. The previous titles don't conform to Wikipedia titling standards, and most of my changes are improvements. As you know, Anthony (and I assume Johnbod does as well), WP is aimed at a general, not a specialist, audience, and titles that don't read as catalog entries is part of that. I'd like to work together with anyone who'd like to improve the situation. Dohn joe (talk) 01:15, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The existing scheme has some slight inconsistencies, but is generally fine, and reflects standard scholarly convention. It has been in place here for many years without problems. I looked at all your changes, and none were improvements. If you want to change some manuscript titles, try the appalling Category:Greek New Testament minuscules (ie gospel books) or Category:Greek New Testament lectionaries, etc, where I'd be happy to discuss a better scheme. Johnbod (talk) 01:21, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Better once
Hi, you said. "The result of the move request was: page not moved: no consensus after 53 kilobytes of arguing in 19 days. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:31, 21 June 2012 (UTC)."
 * True but I can predict that if it had passed then it would have been a precedent throughout Category:Hispanic and Latino American people to give people "English names" going forward. You didn't have to be the one that closed it, you could have relisted it to give the sentiment about hispanic names/people expressed in the RM and sidelines a further run. What I'm saying is thanks for closing the RM, but I don't see that the comment in the close summary achieves anything without an accompanying suggestion such as rather than time wasted on RMs it would be better spent on improving visibility of existing guidance in WP:IRS WP:MOS etc. If so then well I'd agree. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:47, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * That move discussion was not horrible, it was just very very long. For the future, it would be handy if someone would make a list of newspapers that have a practice of quoting people's names without the accent symbols. It was stated in the move discussion that San Francisco Chronicle was such a paper. In the future we could use that information when trying to decide how someone's name is most often spelled in print. We would not use an accent-free mention in the Chronicle as evidence that the diacritics are not used when referring to that person. EdJohnston (talk) 01:22, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Ed, what are you doing on Anthony's Talk page ;). It was apallingly long and repetitive, you're right it shouldn't be necessary 10x to state the San Francisco Chronicle doesn't carry accents. There is a start at distinguishing newspapers on User:Prolog/Diacritical marks .. the problem is however newspapers are never consistent - the SF Chronicle let Gabriel García Márquez slip in with accents once or twice, the NY Times frequently loses accents in anything it has blagged from AP. Ultimately, often the only thing which will lead to spelling a foreigner's or ethnic minority's name as they do is wanting to. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:33, 22 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Likely often, newspapers leaving diacritics out is not so much editors' considered opinion and policy as busy typesetters' practicality. If, when using a British or American keyboard, I want an 'e', I press the 'E' key. If I want an 'é' (e acute), I must copy-and-paste it in from somewhere else which is displaying an 'é', or learn a special keying sequence for each letter sort. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:08, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Mm, tell me about it, I've worked for various publishers. But back to en.wp, where is the guideline that clearly tells editors that the encyclopedia doesn't have to follow the orthography of a sports website or tabloid newspaper? In ictu oculi (talk) 05:20, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Wrong page name

 * Hi Anthony, you helped out when there was a problem with redirecting a page I created (Beijing DeTao Masters Academy). When I recently created a new page about the artist Piers Maxwell Dudley- Bateman, I only noticed afeterwards that I unfortunately added a wrong space in his name. Would you please help out to redirect the page to the right name Piers Maxwell Dudley-Bateman? Thanks a lot!Sivaboy (talk) 06:00, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:53, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Hippopotamus wallow
Phrase of the day! Sorry I had to tag it.  Lugnuts  (talk) 13:35, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Pink and White Terraces
Anthony thanks for taking notice of the Pink and White Terraces article. I note you have reverted my changes to this. I have been watching this page for some time as it was (and is now again) truly awful - but have until this week made only minor changes without much of the in my opinion needed deletion. If you look at the talk page for this article, I suggested that such changes were needed some time ago and there has been no discussion on it. So I decided to be bold.

I know my edits are not perfect and the page needs much improvement but I don't think it can be achieved when there is so much stuff in the page that is simply not on topic.

I transferred the deleted bits to the discussion area as some of it is possibly appropriate to other pages. Much of the data deleted is referenced to the original editor's own website so is somewhat questionable reference wise also. Andrewgprout (talk) 01:22, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I have started a discussion at Talk:Pink and White Terraces. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:45, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Air Safaris (Defunct)
Looking at the history of Air_Safaris (Defunct) I think that you must have been confused with your last move, because you reverted a quick revet of a move back to its previous stable name.

I think that the best thing to do is revert your move, close the RM debate and suggest that a new RM is needed to move the page, so that the current confusion at talk:Air Safaris (Defunct) can be ended. -- PBS (talk) 09:07, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Talk:Air Safaris (Defunct) shows 2 opinions, both "oppose". This move is clearly undecided. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:40, 30 June 2012 (UTC)