User talk:Anthony Bradbury/Archive3

Nasty
Man! I thought I was antagonistic - you've sure irritated somebody to the point where he writes particularly nasty things. I'm glad that you archived this page, though. Good luck with your stalker.DocEss 16:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Samj246
Don't know about a record: I'll bet there's been quicker, but that one sure was insistent, through all the usual test tags. Oh well, I'm guessing that her ardor for Cody may well have waned during the 24 hour block. It so often does at that age. Sigh. Gwernol 21:32, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Mamertine Prison
Hi there; I know it's been sitting there unchallenged for more than two years, but could you possibly document your statement that the belief that Saint Peter was held here is unfounded?--Anthony.bradbury 22:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I think that you have me confused with someone else. My edit was a spelling correction and adding a category. GreatWhiteNortherner 23:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


 * See the Catholic Encyclopedia article in the external links: "there is no reliable evidence that the Chief of the Apostles [i.e. Saint Peter] was ever imprisoned in the Tullianum". The article goes on to say that the claim seems to be first made in the Acts of Saints Processus and Martinianus, which were written hundreds of years after the event.  &mdash; Haeleth Talk 17:48, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


 * No problem. It's always valid to go back and ask past editors to clarify which source is intended to support which point, particularly with articles like that one which haven't been updated to use footnote-style references yet. Wikipedia would be a better resource if more people cared about confirming that they can verify the claims they find here. :)  &mdash; Haeleth Talk 19:48, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!
 * To the best of my (inexpert) knowledge, there is no particular reason to believe that St Peter was not held there. It seems more to be a case of scholars preferring to take a sceptical view of any story that first appears so late.  The tradition itself is likely to be considerably older than the written legend, so I would think it can be considered plausible: it just cannot be proven true or false.
 * (I have modified the article to reflect that it is best described as a tradition, not a "misconception" or a "former == The Lonesome Guest ==

What is the story in The Lonesome Guest?... After earning a Ph.D. in Literature and Philosophy from the University of Heidelberg in 1921 he worked as a journalist and tried for several years to become a published author. His work included an autobiographical novel called Michael which no publisher would take at the time, and two plays written in verse - The Wanderer, about Jesus Christ, and The Lonesome Guest - which no producer would stage. belief".) &mdash; Haeleth Talk 23:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Quick question
If non-notablilty is not a recognized speedy deletion catagory, then what is [CSD A7] used for? The template at the bottom of the page gives six tags to use just for that case.

Please reply so I can understand what I'm doing wrong...

Streetsabre 00:57, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the speedy reply. I will now use the tags you mentioned (db-bio, db-band, and the like) instead of manually typing in my reasons. Thank you for your help! Streetsabre 01:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I will if I need to. I was aware of that page, however I was just doing things differently before. I was using the Reason tag, filling the reason in as "Unremarkable people, groups, companies and web content"... The same text listed under Articles (#7) on that page. I was doing a round-about route instead of directly using tags such as db-bio. Now that you have helped me to clearify what I should be doing, I'm pretty sure that I'll get things right. Thanks again! Streetsabre 01:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate your help! I've been on wikipedia for about a year, but never started making serious changes until recently. I figured being a NP patroller could help me better understand some of the common tags and procedures on the site. Thanks for everything! Streetsabre 01:28, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Welcome. And you are right about looking at the tags - that's how I learnt.--Anthony.bradbury 01:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh man, thats alot of tags. I saw the first page before, but the second... wow. Thanks! Streetsabre 03:08, 12 November 2006 (UTC)== Moving Pages ==

Because you have presented me an oppurtunity to ask a question, I figured I could get something answered that has bothered me for some time. In the event someone creates a page about themselves, how do you move the page to the person's userpage? I tried using the moving pages, and I am attempting to follow the guidelines of Userfication, but I don't want to mess anything up. An example of this is Morishige joe. I believe this page should be either deleted or made into a userpage, because it its poorly written (grammar) and has some NPOV issues. Streetsabre 01:55, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Two options. You can always tag it as speedy-bio. If you want to move it, just hit the "move" tag at the top of the screen, and in the box that appears near the bottom of the move-page type in "User talk:whoever". Then go to their talk page, where you will find a blue tag saying "redirect from Userpage:whoever". Click on this tag, which will take you to the userpage, and edit to remove the redirect. Job done.--Anthony.bradbury 02:01, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I moved it, then I put the db-rediruser tag on the page and talk page. Thanks for the help! Streetsabre 02:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Moving Pages
Because you have presented me an oppurtunity to ask a question, I figured I could get something answered that has bothered me for some time. In the event someone creates a page about themselves, how do you move the page to the person's userpage? I tried using the moving pages, and I am attempting to follow the guidelines of Userfication, but I don't want to mess anything up. An example of this is Morishige joe. I believe this page should be either deleted or made into a userpage, because it its poorly written (grammar) and has some NPOV issues. Streetsabre 01:55, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Two options. You can always tag it as speedy-bio. If you want to move it, just hit the "move" tag at the top of the screen, and in the box that appears near the bottom of the move-page type in "User talk:whoever". Then go to their talk page, where you will find a blue tag saying "redirect from Userpage:whoever". Click on this tag, which will take you to the userpage, and edit to remove the redirect. Job done.--Anthony.bradbury 02:01, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I moved it, then I put the db-rediruser tag on the page and talk page. Thanks for the help! Streetsabre 02:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Templates
You mean the large hand icon and glaring red background doesn't already stand out? ;-)

In general, I do put them at the top, except on occasional one-liners, where it doesn't matter (since the "article" + template fits onto half a screen). Chris talk back 00:22, 11 November 2006 (UTC)


 * As I said, since the articles usually end up deleted anyway, is it important which end of the page empty does on? On longer nonsense, I do indeed put them at the top if there's a risk they wouldn't be seen (E&OE).  I would happily demonstrate, but my hitrate on speedy deletes is rather high :)  Chris talk back 00:31, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

List_of_humourous_units_of_measurement
I just finished adding the content to that page. Do you still think it deserves a speedy delete? In future, you might also want to consider allowing more than a few dozen minutes for the original author to finish making an article before deciding it has no content. Rhialto 03:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Destroyers
Thanks for your comment. I wasn't aware of the "under construction" tag. My intention with the article, as with the German equivalent, is not to replace the ones on specific classes but to try to summarise the classes and trace the evolution and changes. I think there's also a case for the equivalent for the US and for cruiser classes. Folks at 137 15:11, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Your Adoptee Checking In!
Good morning! I'm honoured both to be your adoptee and the FIRST ever adoptee, wow. I was wondering if you could help me answer this question then: What's the code to express that I can translate French into English and vice versa? I'm guessing it would be two lines, but I can only find the French code (I've registered on the French site as well, how bizarre that they are two totally different sites that require two user names and registration processes...) I've read the tutorial and practiced in the sandbox like a good little girl. Now off to do some proofreading. Sylviaroberge 08:43, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Eyes
I have replied to you on my talk page. Robotsintrouble 22:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Deprod comment Honjaram
I've deprodded this newbie's effort since it's a valid geo-stub if nothing else. And I've put a welcome notice on his talk page since it was still blank. --Mereda 16:50, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Eyes
I have replied to you on my talk page. Robotsintrouble 22:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Falkirk Wheel
Don't know if you got a reply to your question on Cyde's page, it's the Falkirk Wheel. Rich Farmbrough, 20:41 31 October 2006 (GMT).

Deprod comment Honjaram
I've deprodded this newbie's effort since it's a valid geo-stub if nothing else. And I've put a welcome notice on his talk page since it was still blank. --Mereda 16:50, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Eyes
I have replied to you on my talk page. Robotsintrouble 22:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

foetus
high five dude, i didnt know about fetus/foetus thingt, i thought it was just a typo and was trying to rub it in haha, but since i spelt it fetus firts i guess i win, yay me. haha so yeah thanks for all the help and critizism too.Qrc2006 00:33, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Falkirk Wheel
Don't know if you got a reply to your question on Cyde's page, it's the Falkirk Wheel. Rich Farmbrough, 20:41 31 October 2006 (GMT).

Deprod comment Honjaram
I've deprodded this newbie's effort since it's a valid geo-stub if nothing else. And I've put a welcome notice on his talk page since it was still blank. --Mereda 16:50, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Eyes
I have replied to you on my talk page. Robotsintrouble 22:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

AS-1 Kennel
Hi. Didn't realise you created this article before I edited it! Recognise the picture? Davidelit 15:03, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

foetus
high five dude, i didnt know about fetus/foetus thingt, i thought it was just a typo and was trying to rub it in haha, but since i spelt it fetus firts i guess i win, yay me. haha so yeah thanks for all the help and critizism too.Qrc2006 00:33, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Falkirk Wheel
Don't know if you got a reply to your question on Cyde's page, it's the Falkirk Wheel. Rich Farmbrough, 20:41 31 October 2006 (GMT).

Deprod comment Honjaram
I've deprodded this newbie's effort since it's a valid geo-stub if nothing else. And I've put a welcome notice on his talk page since it was still blank. --Mereda 16:50, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Eyes
I have replied to you on my talk page. Robotsintrouble 22:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Runescape
Yes, that person is pretty persistent. I've protected it now. Academic Challenger 22:13, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

AS-1 Kennel
Hi. Didn't realise you created this article before I edited it! Recognise the picture? Davidelit 15:03, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

foetus
high five dude, i didnt know about fetus/foetus thingt, i thought it was just a typo and was trying to rub it in haha, but since i spelt it fetus firts i guess i win, yay me. haha so yeah thanks for all the help and critizism too.Qrc2006 00:33, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Falkirk Wheel
Don't know if you got a reply to your question on Cyde's page, it's the Falkirk Wheel. Rich Farmbrough, 20:41 31 October 2006 (GMT).

Deprod comment Honjaram
I've deprodded this newbie's effort since it's a valid geo-stub if nothing else. And I've put a welcome notice on his talk page since it was still blank. --Mereda 16:50, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Eyes
I have replied to you on my talk page. Robotsintrouble 22:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Abaana
Of course Anthony I agree that anyone can edit a page, but in this case this page was DELETED - and not just anyone can do that. And because it was deleted all the page history has gone (or is not generally accessible) and so I cant revert the delete - if you know how to then please do. IMHO the Admin that deleted this article should be shot, or at least questioned about their actions. As it was obviously that Abaana was not CSD material and an Admin should have tagged it PROD or AFD. This sort of action is what drives noobs away (the noob in question here User:Abaana has had their first two articles deleted with CSDs even though they were both likely noteworthy).

Sorry this has made me very cross - I will seek to bring this to the attention on the Admins and try and get it sorted. Many thanks Lethaniol 23:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes I have just found Deletion Review so hopefully get an Admin to the content back. Am starting to cool down now - but still the question (thanks to Terry Prachett) Who watches the Watchman? Cheers Lethaniol 23:54, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I have found the admin that deleted Abaana = User:Nishkid64. Maybe I am ageist but at 17 he seems mighty young for admin, and almost boasts about how many deletes etc... he has done - hmmmm.

No contest, and I think that I would agree that this is young to show the breadth of experience we might hope for. Second best suggestion:try WP:DR or WP:UNDEL. Let me know how you get on.--Anthony.bradbury 00:26, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi again - User:Nishkid64 has started to reply to me - but he is sticking by his CSD, and is demanding proof of notability before considering AFD or DelRev - which I have given. Please see his and my talk pages. If you can a bit of support might be nice - if not I will understand :):) Lethaniol 00:56, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks :):) Night Lethaniol 01:18, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I am no deletionist, and I would gladly keep your article if you showed me some viable evidence that it passes notability guidelines. On multiple occasions I have overruled previous decisions and favored restoring the article because a user presented some evidence that asserted the article's notability. If you do so, then I will definitely change my position and throw support for keeping the article. And...by proof, I mean some actual 3rd-party references that asserts the organization's notability. If it follows one guideline of WP:ORG, then it's a keeper. Lethaniol failed to show me anything that asserts the notability of the organization. P.S. What does my age have to do with my capabilities as admin?  Nish kid 64  01:26, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey you remember that Drug Tariff, the article is still a stub, but its still got useful info and links on. I suppose that article was my inspiration for this discussion (but in that case you added a PROD appropriately I think considering your info).


 * I was a noob then, and it was painful to see someone request the deletion of one of my first pages. Now I see the same happening often with noobs when New Pages patrolling, they are often treated harshly when some are testing and others (like in this case obviously) are trying to add good content (if not always notable). This case pains me in particular as this charity is obviously international in scale, and does a lot of good, yet I see "junk" articles all the time about this and that sports person or local company - I feel this is what wikipedia is for (even if I don't like missionary organisations!)


 * Thanks for your help though - it is nice to have support - sorry to bring up the age issue - is not really relevant and detracts from the arguments. Oh well. Cheers Lethaniol 02:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC) PS will sort out archive soon :)
 * Although I disapprove of the tone of your comments you made on my talk page (which I translate as you thinking that I am incapable of making decisions), I am dropping my case on Abaana. After looking it over, I have reconsidered the deletion, as it seems keeping the article would be of best interest for Wikipedia. By the way, 14000 Ghits is not a lot. Visit AfD, and you'll see many articles get deleted when they have 50k+ hits on Google.  Nish kid 64  21:58, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Apology accepted. And Leth did apologize for his comments. I guess I took your comments in a way you didn't intend it to be.  Nish kid 64  00:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

User:Liam walls
I am not certain if you are an administrator or not, but I need some help with a couple of overactive Aussies. (see: [] This Liam fellow, and his friend, are in the midst of a playful edit war over a couple of nonsensical articles.  I have grown tired of playing tag with them, quite frankly.  If you could take a look, I would appreciate it.  Thanks. ---Charles 01:18, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response, Tony. I will do as you suggest.  Cheers! ---Charles 01:29, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again for your 2nd message. I talked to User 6.9, and he deleted the articles in question, and gave the people involved a severe talking to, and I believe that will put an end to the matter. Rest assured that, when you come up for a vote on becoming an administrator, you will have my enthusiastic support. ---Charles 04:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Prendergast
I deleted the article. If it's there again, it's been recreated. User:Zoe|(talk) 02:31, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

User:Liam walls
I am not certain if you are an administrator or not, but I need some help with a couple of overactive Aussies. (see: [] This Liam fellow, and his friend, are in the midst of a playful edit war over a couple of nonsensical articles.  I have grown tired of playing tag with them, quite frankly.  If you could take a look, I would appreciate it.  Thanks. ---Charles 01:18, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response, Tony. I will do as you suggest.  Cheers! ---Charles 01:29, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again for your 2nd message. I talked to User 6.9, and he deleted the articles in question, and gave the people involved a severe talking to, and I believe that will put an end to the matter. Rest assured that, when you come up for a vote on becoming an administrator, you will have my enthusiastic support. ---Charles 04:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Prendergast
I deleted the article. If it's there again, it's been recreated. User:Zoe|(talk) 02:31, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

User:Liam walls
I am not certain if you are an administrator or not, but I need some help with a couple of overactive Aussies. (see: [] This Liam fellow, and his friend, are in the midst of a playful edit war over a couple of nonsensical articles.  I have grown tired of playing tag with them, quite frankly.  If you could take a look, I would appreciate it.  Thanks. ---Charles 01:18, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response, Tony. I will do as you suggest.  Cheers! ---Charles 01:29, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again for your 2nd message. I talked to User 6.9, and he deleted the articles in question, and gave the people involved a severe talking to, and I believe that will put an end to the matter. Rest assured that, when you come up for a vote on becoming an administrator, you will have my enthusiastic support. ---Charles 04:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Your Adoptee
Ya everything is fine thanks for the help on subpages. Vikingboy0129 03:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Abaana
appreciate the support for the Abaana page, out of inerest how did you get the stats for 14,000 google hits? Abaana 23:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Your Adoptee
Ya everything is fine thanks for the help on subpages. Vikingboy0129 03:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Re:Vandalism
He's been blocked (though not by me, as I'm not a sysop). Heimstern Läufer 23:56, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Nah, not yet. Maybe someday, though at this time I'm probably not ready for an RFA. Heimstern Läufer 23:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. He wasn't welcome here. User:Zoe|(talk) 00:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm afraid WP:AGF gets over-used. I would have blocked him after two blankings. User:Zoe|(talk) 00:07, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I suppose you (or I, or others) could explain things to the vandal fighters... User:Zoe|(talk) 00:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Infectious disease dynamics
You might well be right, and when it looks like it could be an article in progress I generally hold off tagging it and stick it on my watchlist if I think deletion would cause the author to have to re-do a good deal of editing. In this case I reckon if (s)he does have to re-start from scratch there are only a couple of lines to retype. I suppose I should use blank-warn more in these cases! Cheers, Tonywalton | Talk 23:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. Blank-warning or something... Tonywalton  | Talk 23:17, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Aha! empty-warn. That's the fella! Tonywalton  | Talk 23:20, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, WP:BITE. I think with the huge backlogs on CAT:CSD recently I've got used to a tagg leading to a huge lead time for actual deletion; the "empty" tag has in my mind (wrongly, I freely admit) meaning "Oi! get some content in here within the next few hours please".  No excuse, I know. Tonywalton  | Talk 23:30, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Now that looks interesting. I've a lamb bhuna calling my name, so I'll give WP:ADOPT a proper read later. Tonywalton  | Talk 23:41, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Re:la Russophobe
Hi - the program is thoroughly manually run, like VP, so I decided to brandish it nonsense - realistically because, as you noted, it is a clear deletion candidate, and also because I wanted to check the warning system in the program for nonsense (I'm yet to find the templates for attack pages). I hope this clears it up, and by the by, I'm looking for testers for it, so if you're interested, just let me know :) M a rtinp23 00:17, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No - I've got that bit - I just looked at WP:CSD when writing the program (see the table at the bottom), and what I'm wondering is what the template for  this sort of thing, but for an attack page is.  Any ideas? M a rtinp23 00:26, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No, afraid not. Do you think that such a template actually exists? If not, you can make one. --Anthony.bradbury 00:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I may well do so (but tomorrow - oh now is tomorrow (in UK)! (I'm confused)) - thanks M a rtinp23 00:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)== Saul2608 ==

Hi there; I was just warning this user when you beat me to it. Although you gave him a final warning, I could not see any previous examples of his vandalism. They may, of course, have been deleted. Please tell me to mind my own business if you are so moved, but you do know, I trust, that wiki policy is to give a suspected vandal four warnings, of increasing firmness, before blocking him/her? Giving a level four warning for a first offence is liable to result in no admin being willing to block, which negates your effort.--Anthony.bradbury 01:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)


 * No. There are four warnings, but they need not be used in order, nor need they all be used. This case was so strong (giving away contact details for an attack page victim) that it merited the use of the strongest warning. -- I sl a y So lo mo n  |  t a l k  01:16, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Cory Lidle
When I revert somebody, I tend to watch their contribs for at least the next 5-10 minutes; in cases of users like that, usually even longer. If he'd continued as such, I would have blocked without any questions asked. As is, looks like somebody who's less patient than I am already indeffed the bloke. :) Luna Santin 00:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I imagine most would agree with you. Let me know if you have any problems with socks, and I'll knock them off pronto. Luna Santin 00:12, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, cool. :) I've seen your name show up here and there, and as far as I can tell, you seem to have a pretty good reputation. Good luck! Luna Santin 00:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Spedy Deletion Peramiters (sp)
I'm using vandalproof. It types almost everything I'm saying with one click. Thanks though. --  T H  L CCD 01:05, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Exactly. BTW, I have to do something real quick. Could you monitor this page -Ralph Roddenbery- the author has given me some trouble. I had to report him, and I'm waiting for the admins to get to it. If not that's fine, but it would make me feel better if it was being monitored. Cheers, --  T H  L CCD 01:11, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually that was way faster then I thought. Nevermind, --  T H  L CCD 01:16, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

He did give me some grief. He ignores my warning =s until I have to report him, and then he follows the rules. I just don't understand some people. --  T H  L CCD 01:18, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I Don't Get it Either
Our comments did overlap for a while, but I think they are fine now. Yeah, I don't get it either. Oh well, it gives me a reason to play with my computer :). Cheers, --  T H  L CCD 01:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)