User talk:Antideregister/Archive 1

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A belated welcome!
Here's wishing you a belated welcome to Wikipedia, Muhammad ittal. I see that you've already been around a while and wanted to thank you for your contributions. Though you seem to have been successful in finding your way around, you may benefit from following some of the links below, which help editors get the most out of Wikipedia:
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Again, welcome! Epicgenius (give him tirade • check out damage) 00:28, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Fuck Off Get Free We Pour Light on Everything ‎
Hi, saw you marked this as vandalism. It would appear to actually be an album title for a notable band, so leaving it as a redirect is perfectly okay. Best, -- B figura  (talk) 01:38, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, sorry! I'm new and didn't actually read the article it redirected to. Muhammad ittal (talk) 01:40, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
 * No worries, just check in the future. -- B figura  (talk)

Note about indenting
In the future, just put asterisks * or colons : to indent comments on Wikipedia talk pages. It is very easy that way and it does not show as messed-up wikicode. Thanks. Epicgenius (give him tirade • check out damage) 00:32, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Your reversions on the talk page of Pandit Sudarshan Das (Tablalahara)
Hi. I noticed you restored material removed from User talk:Pandit Sudarshan Das (Tablalahara) by that page's owner. Users are allowed to remove communications from their talk pages; when they do so, they are deemed to have read it. See WP:REMOVED. —Largo Plazo (talk) 05:50, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I failed to read that guideline. Muhammad Ittal ● ✉ 05:51, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Film pages
Hi I would like to let you know that on the film pages we normally do put the actors or directors to the Highest Grossing Films charts they are unnecessary because the films are also listed below in the release date section with the actors and directors listed in that section. thank you Redsky89 (talk) 07:15, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Evaluative diversity
Muhammad, thanks for your help with the evaluative diversity page. It looks like you reverted a large edit in less than a minute--was that automated? I wonder whether you did that accidentally. If not, could you please let me know the reason for the reversion, so I can find a way to address your insight? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Langchri (talk • contribs) 18:56, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * No, it was not automated, but it appears you had removed a large number of references without explanation. Muhammad Ittal ● ✉ 22:31, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Can you please confirm that I did it correctly this time? Langchri (talk) 03:52, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism
Just in case if you were wondering; I didn't vandalize your talk page at all; there were several naughty vandals that gave me a field day having to revert all of their spam edits. Please don't blame me for their mistakes. Thanks for understanding! The Triple M  02:39, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Of course, I know. You did not fully revert the vandalism so I finished it for you. You may want to try WP:TW; it is quite useful for rolling back many edits.Muhammad Ittal ● ✉ 02:41, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I have twinkle. Another user just vandalized your user page 5 times. Don't worry, I undid all of it, but you might want to change that userbox to 18 times. The  Triple M   —Preceding undated comment added 03:09, 9 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I semi-protected the page for three days. Drmies (talk) 03:11, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * That should stop them. Muhammad Ittal ● ✉ 12:26, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Zoe Yin
Hello Muhammad ittal. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Zoe Yin, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional. Thank you. Ged UK  13:31, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Victoria Yin
Hello Muhammad ittal. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Victoria Yin, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional. Thank you. Ged UK  13:35, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Jimmy the Groundhog
Hello Muhammad ittal. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Jimmy the Groundhog, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Article claims coverage in reliable sources. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 12:51, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Um no? It cites no sources. Muhammad Ittal ● ✉ 16:33, 15 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I didn't say it cites sources, I said it claims coverage in reliable sources, which it does. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 16:39, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Soviet 1961 tests
Thanks, Muhammad, for reviewing the 1961 Soviet nuclear test page. However, your title change wasn't appropriate, as this is one page in a series that will run up to some 40 pages, and will include narrative as well as the list of explosions. They are all linked (I so far have 1961-1967 in place; that was yesterday's work). They aren't intended to be list pages; eventually they should be fleshed out with more information on the Soviet series. I reverted the change. For an example of how the page is intended, see an equivalent American testing page, such as Operation Sandstone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SkoreKeep (talk • contribs) 16:55, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

speedy deletion "~2013"
was created as an "ARCHIVE" page of out-dated topics on the TALK page of the article to which it was attached... IF i've made a formatting etc mistake in the process, please tell me what i can do to fix it, BUT: the creation of the "archive" for that particular talk page was VALID: all the topics being discussed there have no relation to the betterment of the wiki article itself but rather random chatter about "meaning" etc etc, all a few years outdated as well... Japanglish (talk) 17:41, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * i notice your account was only recently opened... it leads me to believe youve made a mistake in deleting the archive page i've noted above, for the TALK page of Babel (film), and i'm asking for its reinstatement... i've archived TALK pages in the past, and to my knowledge i've created the above Talk Archive using the same process as i'd ever done... please reinstate the page. Japanglish (talk) 11:13, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You should create such pages in your userspace. Muhammad Ittal ● ✉ 11:15, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

NO. sorry: its an ARCHIVE, my friend: an archive of the TALK page in which it was placed... it's the way it's done, check any other thousands of such Talk archives... you made a mistake; admit it, and FIX IT or GET it fixed... you have no authority to be speedy-deleting pages in the first place, and your rationale of "create it in your userspace" is no rationale at all... learn the procedures before using your delete button, and don't be such a snot when youre clearly in the wrong. Japanglish (talk) 14:58, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello, folks. User:Japanglish asked me to review the situation. You both seem to be mistaken.
 * Muhammad ittal, per Help:Archiving a talk page, article Talk pages are indeed archived in the main article space (albeit not in the location where you found this one).
 * Japanglish:
 * Muhammad ittal certainly does have authority&#8212;the same authority as all Wikipedia users&#8212;to submit pages for speedy deletion if they qualify for that treatment.
 * Article talk pages are not archived by putting them in articles named ~2013 as you did (how did you come up with that?), and Muhammad ittal had no reason to construe an article you created there to be a valid archive for an existing Talk page. The proper location is in a subpage, Talk:Babel (film)/Archive 1. If you would now like to create the archive properly, please follow the procedures outlined in Help:Archiving a talk page.
 * See WP:Civility. The manner in which you addressed Muhammad Ittal was unjustified.
 * Thanks —Largo Plazo (talk) 14:09, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks back, Largo... i arrived here with a valid inquiry and approached it with civility... Muhamad's reply was too smug for someone who is clearly unfamiliar with the functions being exploited... the matter still stands: topics of discussion were deleted, and Muhamid is the one who set that in motion... i admitted from the start that if i myself had made a mistake with formatting then i'm willing to help fix it but, now i could care less actually, and i still believe Muhamad should put those folk's dialogues back. make it a new habit to ping a user in cases which may be a simple oversight; people are "working" here for free, busy with wiki & real world concerns, and may sometimes overlook something in the rush; with a momentary check, it should've been clear by context that the archive was related to that article! that said, i'll step back from this now and go have some other people's work deleted. Japanglish (talk) 02:57, 18 December 2013 (UTC)


 * He wrote eight simple, neutral words: "You should create such pages in your userspace." It turns out he was wrong about that, but given that he thought his remark was correct, there was nothing "smug" about it. It was actually fairly restrained given that, even before that, you had delved right into passing judgment on the amount of time he's spent here followed by telling him he was wrong to have deleted the page that you created when, in fact, he wasn't. Meanwhile, as I've demonstrated, you were wrong in three respects. Does it follow that you're being triply smug? Should I therefore address you in the manner that you addressed him?


 * Now you say he should "put those folk's [sic] dialogues back". No. He shouldn't re-create the article that you shouldn't have created to begin with and that he was correct to have deleted. If you were going to archive a Talk page, doesn't it stand to reason that it was your responsibility to do it correctly and that it remains your responsibility now to correct any mistakes you made in the process? As for checking with you ahead of deletion, I'm sure it looked pretty clear-cut to him. You say it should have been clear that the content he deleted was related to the article whose Talk page it came from. I suspect that to most editors, including myself, it would have looked like someone making hash by randomly copying material from elsewhere into an article with a weird name.


 * And to what end is your complaint? If it had somehow occurred to him that there might be some reason to consult with you ahead of deletion, you would still have had to do what you have to do now: create the archive in the proper location (the source content is still in the Talk page's history) while submitting the bad article for deletion. There's no difference in the outcome. —Largo Plazo (talk) 03:57, 18 December 2013 (UTC)l

By the way, my username has been changed from Muhammad ittal to Antideregister. Antideregister ● ✉ 11:21, 18 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I figured that out but didn't see any pressing need to change it in the middle of the discussion. :-) —Largo Plazo (talk) 18:21, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Well... Uh... Thanks! I didn't think it was that good. Antideregister ● ✉ 02:36, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the "This user created 0.314 of the 4,403,698 articles" userbox really got me. Epicgenius (talk) 02:58, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

CSD Declined - Message in a Cell Phone
Hi. Just to let you know that I have declined the speedy deletion of Message in a Cell Phone as it is not an obvious hoax. Please have a read of WP:CSD for description of the criteria for speedy deletion of hoaxes and all the other categories. Thank you. Stephen! Coming... 12:49, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Baldev Singh (author), formerly Baldev Singh Sarhaknama
I removed the speedy tag that you added to Baldev Singh Sarhaknama, which has now been moved to Baldev Singh (author). If an article states an an author has won an award, this is generally enough to avoid deletion under CSD A7, although not necessarily AfD. Another editor improved the article significantly after I made some changes to it. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 18:09, 18 December 2013 (UTC)