User talk:Antonio Vinzaretti

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Happy editing! WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 14:15, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Mykola Udianskyi


A tag has been placed on Mykola Udianskyi requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, at Articles for deletion/Nikolai Udianskyi. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

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Advice on starting editing
Hello, Antonio. I have read your latest message on my talk page, in which you referred to the "rejection of result of [your] half-day work. I can in fact fully understand that it must be disheartening and annoying for a new editor who has put some work into finding out how to edit on Wikipedia, and creating a new article, only to see it thrown away, and I apologise for having been the instrument of that happening for you. However, we have to have standards for what is acceptable and what isn't, or Wikipedia would be no different from FaceBook or an internet forum or blog, and those standards would be meaningless if we didn't delete things which don't comply with them. My advice to new editors is that it is best to start by making small improvements to existing articles, rather than creating new articles. That way any mistakes you make will be small ones, and you won't have the discouraging experience of repeatedly seeing hours of work deleted. Gradually, you will get to learn how Wikipedia works, and after a while you will know enough about what is acceptable to be able to write whole new articles without fear that they will be deleted. Over the years I have found that editors who start by making small changes to existing articles and work up from there have a far better chance of having a successful time here than those who jump right into creating new articles from the start. JBW (talk) 14:41, 20 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey James, can you advice me on further case? Today I want create article about indian guy who was in epicenter of hacking scandal in 2020. But again possible G4 as I see!!! I check that isn't available name Kumar Gaurav, so to avoid Parenthetical disambiguation I choosed between Kumar Gaurav (computer programmer) or Kumar Gaurav (entrepreneur). But with (entrepreneur) was deleted in 2018! OMG. My main sources why I wanted to create article about guy is here and here. Rest bio I finding now. Antonio Vinzaretti (talk) 16:26, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Mykola Udianskyi
OK, I have managed to find time to check the articles sooner than I expected. Certainly your version of the article has more, and different, sources cited, and since lack of sourcing was the essential issue in the deletion discussion, there is a case for saying that the new one goes somewhere towards addressing the reason for the deletion. However, merely having a larger number of sources cited is not enough: 100 poor sources are worth less than one good one. Most of the sources you have cited, unfortunately, go nowhere towards establishing notability in Wikipedia's terms. There are pages which only make a passing mention of him, pages which mention him several times, but only in the course of covering aspects of his business activities, without giving significant coverage to Udianskyi himself, an interview with him, which is essentially a way for him to give information about himself, and therefore not a source independent of him, and so on. Then there's http://eehb.dspu.edu.ua/article/view/246904 which I can only assume is a mistake, as it doesn't seem to have anything to do with Udianskyi at all. The source which seems to give the most substantial coverage to him is https://forbes.ua/ru/profile/mikola-udyanskiy-475 but there are two reasons why that is unlikely to be enough. Firstly, consensus among Wikipedia editors with enough knowledge of Forbes to be able to make a meaningful assessment is that most content on Forbes is written with minimal editorial oversight, and is generally unreliable. (There are some exceptions, but I don't know enough about Forbes to be able to tell whether this is one of them.) Secondly, even if editors do regard that article as a good source, just one source is unlikely to be enough. If you want, I can restore the article, and inform both the editor who nominated it for speedy deletion this time and the editors who took part in the discussion last time. (I am absolutely not prepared to restore the article behind their backs, without letting them know.) However, I think the result of that would far more likely than not be that it would be taken to a second deletion discussion and deleted again; if so then it would be a waste of time for everyone, including you. I suppose a third possibility is to restore the article, and move it to draft space to give you a chance to find sources, but I think that too might be a waste of your time, and my advice is that you will be better off leaving it, and moving on to other kinds of editing where you are more likely to have success. Of course, since that is only advice, you are free to take it or not, but it is based on many years' experience of how deletion discussions tend to go. JBW (talk) 16:33, 20 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I choose "If you want, I can restore the article, and inform both the editor who nominated it for speedy deletion this time", because the page can alive as a stub, no? May quality and number of sources need to be extended, but it's not a reason to delete for ever. It's all on my opinion - he is 59th in Forbes so passed notability. Might passed WP:SIRS too. So if class of article is stub - why u push me to remove my own work? I'd like to choose restore as a stub-class article & inform editors about our investigation. I appreciate it. Antonio Vinzaretti (talk) 16:39, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * "(There are some exceptions, but I don't know enough about Forbes to be able to tell whether this is one of them.) Secondly, even if editors do regard that article as a good source, just one source is unlikely to be enough." James, see WP:SIRS. I follow guidelines as I can. If Article is not A-Class, it's not a reason do judge me so strickly. I appreciate, keep in touch. Antonio Vinzaretti (talk) 16:54, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey James, can you advice me on further case? Today I want create article about indian guy who was in epicenter of hacking scandal in 2020. But again possible G4 as I see!!! I check that isn't available name Kumar Gaurav, so to avoid Parenthetical disambiguation I choosed between Kumar Gaurav (computer programmer) or Kumar Gaurav (entrepreneur). But with (entrepreneur) was deleted in 2018! OMG. My main sources why I wanted to create article about guy is here and here. Rest bio I finding now. Antonio Vinzaretti (talk) 15:46, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Mykola Udianskyi for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Mykola Udianskyi is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Bitget


A tag has been placed on Bitget requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, at Articles for deletion/Bitget (2nd nomination). When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

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Nomination of Kumar Gaurav (entrepreneur) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Kumar Gaurav (entrepreneur) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Kumar Gaurav (entrepreneur) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. Dirubii Olchoglu (talk) 11:11, 18 December 2023 (UTC)


 * As the author of the page I can agree on some sentences which you said on AfD. And I even removed unsourced content after you removed a few references. You know, it's hard to write the page from scratch so now it looks like WP:ONEEVENT, because this person was involved as a CEO of the company which was hacked in 2020. Probably page can be moved to draft to further improvement, where you can help to find more third-party significant coverage reliable sources. I appreciate you. Antonio Vinzaretti (talk) 12:25, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Pavlo Tanasyuk for deletion
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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. Dirubii Olchoglu (talk) 11:16, 18 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I saw your AfD. OK. It is hard to create page from scratch so now it looks like WP:ONEEVENT. I as the author of the page aprreciate your nomination to deletion. I won't lose my Article's progress so please vote Move to the Draftspace instead of Delete, thx. I hope you will help to improve Draft article and find more third-party significant coverage reliable sources. I appreciate you Antonio Vinzaretti (talk) 12:27, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bitget (December 19)
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 * Hi. Can you explain please where issues is the article? Antonio Vinzaretti (talk) 07:42, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bitget (December 19)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Bitget (December 20)
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BuySomeApples (talk) 05:23, 20 December 2023 (UTC)


 * "any significant changes" means what? Can you clarify please? Antonio Vinzaretti (talk) 06:53, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

331dot (talk) 08:47, 20 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Useful to know! Thank you! Antonio Vinzaretti (talk) 08:51, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Concerning XDC
Hey Antonio, Hope you good? Th.nks for trying to make the article better. I think we misunderstand each other. Apart from syndicated news, Yahoo news is generally considered reliable. You can check WP:RSPSS.

Also the news article that you keep removing is a Yahoo Singapore news article. you can see it here. We should collaborate to make the article better, not get into an unnecessary editing war with irrelevant tags.

Thanks Ghostfishing (talk) 10:41, 20 December 2023 (UTC)


 * OK, I agree with you. Thank you for explaining to me WP:RSPSS. By the way, you wrote it not in encyclopedic style, but like promotional - "ready to entrprise" or similar words. Antonio Vinzaretti (talk) 10:43, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * If you check, you'll see that I have modified it. I have really worked on the article and I think it is ready for mainspace. Also look through, and the tag you added is not really necessary at this point, I think. Also, do whatever you can to make the article better. Thanks Ghostfishing (talk) 10:56, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * OK, I'm AFK now so I will help you today later. Antonio Vinzaretti (talk) 11:00, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * alright. Ghostfishing (talk) 22:15, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Blocked as a sockpuppet
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 * Hi. What it means? Antonio Vinzaretti (talk) 13:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)