User talk:Antonio cachia

Youth Career
Someone please change the year from 1989-1997. He joined Liverpool when he was 9, not 7.

Personal life
Why is this totally non-npov page locked? This loses all kind of credibility for your ;project;. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.5.32.195 (talk) 02:13, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

This is big news and is in the media all over the world.... So can some one add about his bar brawl on Merseyside on 29 Dec 2008 and that he atteneded the North Sefton Magistrates' Court on 23 Jan 2009. With ref to:- "GERRARD 'BRAWL'" Daily Star - 'England star Gerrard pleads not guilty on assault charge' Monsters and Critics.com - "Gerrard denies nightclub assault" Southport Reporter ??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.151.234 (talk) 18:05, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Have you even read the article? It's in there. --Ged UK (talk) 19:46, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

The information him being a father-of-two can be found on the BBC website http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/7981008.stm Read section "Asked how he pleaded, the father-of-two, said: "Not guilty." All six other men entered the same plea." Also see http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/apr/03/steven-gerrard-court-appearanc and http://www.southportreporter.com/388/   I would add, but the page is locked. Anappleadaykeepsthedocaway (talk) 19:56, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Its semi-protected, you can edit it. -- Ged UK  20:04, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Goal count
Games: 465 Goals: 165 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lloydfudlegh (talk • contribs) 20:47, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * And your point is? --Ged UK (talk) 20:53, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I think his point is that in "Senior Career' on the right hand column, it only counts about 70 goals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.84.98.61 (talk) 19:48, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, and as the infobox says at the bottom, it's for league goals and appearances only. -- Ged UK  20:01, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Final Goals
It mentions him securing the treble with Liverpool in 2001, but it doesn't mention he scored one of their goals in the UEFA Cup Final that season, something I feel definitely warrants a mention in someone's wiki page, whoever they are. This could also have some significance because I remember hearing something along the lines of him becoming the first Englishman to score in both the UEFA Cup and Champions League finals (obviously achieving the latter four years later) but I'm not 100% sure with that fact. Either way I reckon the UEFA Cup final goal needs a mention

Also, it doesn't mention him winning the 2003 League Cup Final with Liverpool in the main body of text, made all the more important because he scored in that final aswell against Manchester United. He has to be one of the few players to have scored in the UEFA Cup, Champions League, FA Cup (twice) and League Cup finals —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steveww (talk • contribs) 13:19, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Playing Position
"He is usually selected in central midfield" should be changed as it is clearly false. For the majority of Liverpool's games in over the past two seasons he has been utilised as a forward, with Mascherano and Alonso the first choice midfield partnership. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.179.33 (talk) 15:37, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I would hesitiate to say he was a forward most of the time, I would still consider him generally to be a midfielder, albeit with Alonso and Mascherano as a pair behind him. He is often referred to on places like Sky Sports as a box-to-box midfielder, and I think this is probably the best description for him. I'd be interested to see how this discussion develops, however, because these things are usually a matter of opinion, and i don't doubt that there are a range of sources that back up either point of view. -- Ged UK  15:57, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I would say he's a midfielder, the Liverpool tactic used is a 4-2-3-1 with (first choices) Alonso and Mascherano as holding midfielders and Riera, Gerrard and Kuyt as left, centre and right midfielders... Sure, you could somewhat argue that he's a second striker, but if you really go through his whole career, most England matches etc I think it shows he's a central midfielder that's right now just has more freedom in the Liverpool tactic. chandler · 16:08, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd say that box-to-box midfielder sums it up well. Gerrard is often given free reign across the pitch so he gets involved with attack, midfield and defence. I'd say that "forward" would be an injustice to what he does as much as "defensive midfielder" would be, but he often performs task which could be defined as both these roles. I think his role is quite comparable to that of Frank Lampard. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 22:48, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Right, we need to come to a consensus on this, as the additions of second striker are becoming more frequent. What I think we may be in danger of doing is ORing our own preferred solution, whereas what we would be better doing is trying to do some sort of review of the more recent match reports and see how often he's referred to as a striker or midfielder etc. How does that sound? -- Ged UK  22:25, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Let's add second striker in the box (alongside box-to-box mf) per these sources discussing both England and Liverpool playing positions. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 15:53, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Fine with me. Let's let it run a few days longer and see if anyone objects/offers something different. -- Ged UK  16:03, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't think we can change a player position based on a few months of different tactics. I'll use two Liverpool examples; during the 2005–06 season, Djrbril Cissé was played primarily at right wing, however this was not his position as such(could argue this was as he wasn't particularly good there I suppose). But also Dirk Kuyt had the same thing happen to him and we can safely say this is now his position. My point really is how long must a player play in a position for it to be considered is main position? Should it be a full season? Must he have started the season as first choice in that position? Has Gerrard merely been shifted into a position it was hoped Keane would play in? Personally, however, I'd consider Gerrard to be an Attacking Midfielder, for now at least. Tommyart 23:22, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, as I pointed out, if sources are saying he is a second striker (rather than playing as a second striker) then is that enough? -- Ged UK  07:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

"It's strange to be talking about Stevie as a striker, but that's what he has become and, for me, in that position behind the main forward there is no one better." Lando09 (talk) 09:34, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

It has become December and we still see Gerrard playing as a second striker. He has been doing so for over two seasons nad manager Rafaen Benitez' talk about him as a striker. I wouldn't change it to "striker", but "midfielder/second striker" is the correct definition now, alongside being a compromize that can not be critisized. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Larsle (talk • contribs) 17:27, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, what can I say about Steven Gerrard he is magnificent. You can put this player in any position and he will perform. [shakz91-Sultan]

Zidane praise
I think Zidane's comment regarding Gerrard should be included but I'm not sure where this should be done. "Is he the best in the world? He might not get the attention of Messi and [Cristiano] Ronaldo but yes, I think he might be." Sillyfolkboy (talk) 23:47, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


 * It did turn up yesterday at some point near the Man U result. I haven't been online today, so don't know if it's gone again. Perhaps, in the interests of improving the article we could have a criticism and praise section, though preferably with a better name than that! -- Ged UK  17:45, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * These types of things are generally discouraged nowadays. Personally, I think they tend to attract random editing and fail to clearly represent opinion on the subject. I'd be much in favour of working things into the article rather than splitting them out and I think this style would better suit the Gerrard article. I think the Zidane quote is good because it puts things in a real-world perspective and isn't hyperbolic. It wouldn't be half as useful if Zidane had said "Yes, Gerrard is amazing and the best in the world." I'll put it next to the Man United result as the quote and result fit together quite well. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 20:20, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * OK. -- Ged UK  20:39, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Gerrard extends contract
Shouldn't it be mentioned that Steven Gerrard recently extended his contract with Liverpool till 2012/13 season? The source may be found here. I came across other links on reputed newspapers such as The Times and The Guardin but have been unabel to retrieve the BBC or the liverpoolfctv link that I saw sometime back

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=1045100.html --Mayfair void (talk) 01:41, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

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Name
Isn't his middle name, Bartholemu--92.6.222.47 (talk) 12:45, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Im pretty sure it is George, I have searched around the web and just came up with George.  Tsange  ► talk 14:28, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

NO, His middle name is defintely George —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rdowen4848 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

This season goals
Goals opponents scored by his backpasses deserves a mention. He has skillfully mastered not less than 3 goals in such fashion.

Can you please update as he has 10 goals this season

7 in the league

Age at Hillsborough Disaster. This states SG was 9 years old. As he was born in May 1980, he would have been 8 in April 1989. Please correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rdowen4848 (talk • contribs) 21:08, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Your userpage
Hi. Could you please stop including categories into your userpage? That would cause the unwanted side effect of making your own userpage listed together with players' articles. See WP:USERNOCAT for details. Regards, --Angelo (talk) 00:19, 6 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Are you reading this? If you keep including categories into your userpages, then I will start considering it as vandalism, with all the given consequences, so I strongly suggest you to stop doing that. Consider this as an official warning. Regards, --Angelo (talk) 23:31, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

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 * I also added some tags to make sure you don't fool readers into thinking this is an actual encyclopedia article. Remember, your userpage is not an unofficial article-space. DMacks (talk) 08:03, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

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