User talk:Anturiaethwr

Accident or ?
Please be more careful when reverting edits. You restored vandalism and I can only assume it was an accident. Jacksinterweb (talk) 02:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, I saw your history and figured it was just a mistake. Jacksinterweb (talk) 02:41, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Why!
Why'd you remove my expansion of Playing With Matches (CSI: NY episode)? It was clean and correct --Guthrie (talk) 14:13, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert
Thanks for the revert on the Food chemistry article. I really appreciate it. Chris (talk) 01:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. Chris (talk) 20:09, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

AfD of Jody Kraus
Could you please take another look at Articles for deletion/Jody Kraus? I think the references demonstrate that he is notable. --Eastmain (talk) 01:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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Re: SineBot
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 * It doesn't need a link to the user talk page, just either of them (i.e., either the user or user talk page). I simply have both for easier use; however, your current signature has neither linked (e.g., try clicking your user name on pages on which you leave your signature).  -- slakr  \ talk / 01:35, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Deletion debate content
This is usually caused by malformatted content in the following deletion debate. Indeed, the page Articles for deletion/Ben Clues was followed by Articles for deletion/The Newport 5‎ in the archive, and the latter page was edited by the article's creator who removed the debate heading, causing the text to appear under the previous one. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 13:43, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I see; thanks!  Anturiaethwr  Talk  15:32, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

The opposite of epicaricacy
The debate on the article has been rather heated, and has been a waste of resources and time. I disagree with your interpretation, but hope we all walk away from this with no hard feelings. Cordially, --evrik (talk) 20:06, 13 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for your olive branch; I certainly agree that we're wasting our time, and I appreciate that you're not taking things personally. I, for one, haven't eaten all day and am mere hours away from an essay exam on the Critique of Pure Reason, and that's probably contributed to the intensity of the debate.  For that, I humbly apologize.  (I also apologize for my "nonsense" comment; I've been regretting expressing myself so strongly.)  I intend to let this AfD end however it will; I've expressed my views, and that should be enough for me.


 * In short, I apologize for my heated tone, I bear you no ill will, and I hope that all of our future interactions will be cordial. I intend to cross-post this to your talk page as well, since it's important to me that you know how deeply I regret my tone.   Anturiaethwr  Talk  20:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Delete, merge, etc.
I'm really not very experienced in Wikpedia policy stuff. I have mostly edited articles. I don't really understand the difference between merge, delete, and redirect, so if you think I should withdraw the AfD because there is now good material in epicaricacy that I would like to see kept in schadenfreude, what method should I use? Just a URL of a page that explains it would be great. Thanks, and thanks for your good will in what has been a sometimes uncivil discussion. betsythedevine (talk) 05:44, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Another editor did mention that having a "Delete" would make it harder to re-create the epicaricacy article. betsythedevine (talk) 13:39, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm something of a neophyte myself, but let's see if the knowledge I've gleaned from AfDs helps answer your questions. (I'd rather summarize it here than point you to a bunch of pages you'd have to slog through, but off the top of my head I'm guessing that the most relevant would be WP:REDIRECT, WP:MERGE, WP:DELETE, and WP:AFD.)  First of all, the difference between merging, redirection and deletion is that deletion removes a page entirely--its history, its talk page, everything.  Redirection, on the other hand, involves replacing the content of a page with the redirection template; it's just a specific kind of edit.  That's why C S could redirect Epicaricacy to Schadenfreude without bringing it to AfD or anything similar, and that's why Evrik could revert that redirect just as easily.  (Note that the page began life as a redirect.)  Merging is more complicated (I've looked at WP:MERGE just to be sure I'm not misinforming you), but is essentially the same as redirection except that it involves moving useful content into the target article, as well as making the source article redirect there.  Both merging and redirection preserve the pages related to the original page, which, I believe, is required in many situations under GFDL restrictions.


 * Now, as to AfD: it is devoted entirely and exclusively to deletion. If you want a merge (as you want now) or a redirect (as you originally wanted; you've changed what the nomination says, but I commented before that, and I remember), then AfD is not the place to go.  It's also not a forum for seeking broader discussion; I'd recommend a WikiProject for that (in this case, WikiProject Psychology seems like a good start).  It seems as though the fact that you brought an article to AfD asking for redirection, rather than deletion, is what caused so many people to attack you (certainly with unnecessary harshness, and I think somewhat unfairly) for "abusing process" and the like.


 * Deletion would indeed make it slightly more difficult to recreate Epicaricacy (if it were deleted, which is highly unlikely at this point), since, if it were a wholesale copy of the deleted version, it could be speedily deleted as a recreation of deleted material with no significant improvement. However, that would make it harder for someone searching for "epicaricacy" to find information on Schadenfreude, since, rather than being redirected to the relevant page, they would find no pages whatsoever.  Whether "epicaricacy" is a plausible search term is a judgment call; I personally think it is, and I imagine you think so too, since you now want a merge.


 * Finally, I've seen your report at WP:ANI, and I'll watch it in case the discussion begins to revolve around conduct within the AfD itself; anything else I'll leave alone.


 * Thank you for your asking, and also for your civility; I agree that this AfD has gotten far, far out of hand (though I've been involved in worse), and I appreciate that people seem willing to work it out amicably.  Anturiaethwr  Talk  00:41, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much. I just wish I had known all this stuff days ago. I now understand Evrik's upset at having not only "his" page but also the history of the work he put into it wiped off the wiki. I also understand (what baffled me at the time because it seemed so offtopic) why the "keep" people kept saying that the article had good material in it. I also understand why Evrik thought my copying some of his work to the other article was a ploy aimed at getting his stuff deleted and stealing credit for his research. It was not meant that way at all.


 * Evrik changed my initial nomination line to head it with the word "Redirect" and (in annoyance that he was changing my stuff without consulting me) I then changed it so the first word was "Delete". I really didn't give much thought to my change. In fact, looking back on this whole mess there are a lot of times that I wish I had thought less about how much Team Evrik was doing stuff that upset me and more about what I usually try to stick to, "What would make Wikipedia better?" betsythedevine (talk) 18:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Epicaricacy was not a content fork
"Articles on distinct but related topics may well contain a significant amount of information in common with one another. This does not make either of the two articles a content fork. As an example, clearly Joséphine de Beauharnais will contain a significant amount of information also in Napoleon I of France, this does not make it a fork."

- CFORK

Idiot. Stop spreading your lies.151.197.116.67 (talk) 01:14, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

H. G. Wells
What was the point of this? Surely you must have read my edit summary, which clearly stated I was avoiding a double redirect? Plrk (talk) 21:49, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Stupid bloody pop-up notes! I'm getting rid of them right now!  Thanks for reverting me.   Anturiaethwr  Talk  21:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * In that case, I recommend Twinkle :) Plrk (talk) 14:31, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

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 * Anyone reading my talk page should note that I've never even been to the UK, and am consequently about to leave the bot operator a note.  Anturiaethwr  Talk  22:49, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Saved me?
Thanks for the help with "I Went to a Marvellous Party." I was in the process of pasting the article from my subpage when you "added context." I don't even know what A1 Speedy is. Do you mind telling me? Thanks.Hammerdrill (talk) 13:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. WP:CSD is the criterion for the speedy deletion of articles that don't give the reader any indication of what they're about.  When I saw it at Special:NewPages, your article only had the song title, without any indication of what it was; since I recognized the title, I figured it wasn't vandalism and you'd be along shortly to put in more content.  Patrollers on that page can be somewhat quick to tag new articles, and I wanted to stop anyone from doing that before you had a chance to fill in the rest of the article.
 * Incidentally, when you make a new article, you can make a final copy in your userspace and then move it to mainspace with the "move" tab, rather than create a new page and then copy the content into it. (This will create a redirect in your userspace, but if you still need a userpage with that title you can undo that.)  That way, you can put the whole article, nice and neat, in the mainspace as soon as you create it; you'll also avoid problems with overzealous NewPages patrollers.
 * I hope that helps!  Anturiaethwr  Talk  14:31, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * P.S. Nice work on the article, by the way.   Anturiaethwr  Talk  14:33, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Very helpful and appreciated. Thanks also for the compliment on the article.  All the best,Hammerdrill (talk) 17:07, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Looks like vandalism, actually
The original version had a lot of indents and no wikis, which in turn ring my alarm bells. Reading this version tells me some little kids are playing on the computer. Thanks for the heads-up. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:48, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem.  Anturiaethwr  Talk  01:50, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Civility Award

 * Why, thank you! I didn't expect that, and it truly makes my day.   Anturiaethwr  Talk  14:57, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Tag removal
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 * Actually, Jeff, I did not create the page myself. I am disputing the tag, as anyone except the author may do.  I disagree that the page is patent nonsense, and will be happy to discuss that at the article's talk page if you wish.   Anturiaethwr  Talk  02:00, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I had some misconceptions about the uw-speedy tagset.   — Jeff G. (talk&#124;contribs) 02:14, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Not a problem, and I'm sorry for getting upset.  Anturiaethwr  Talk  02:16, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Gerald mahn
Hi, I I changed this tag, because the first line is "Gerald H. Mahn is a domestic house cat.", and db-person is for... well, people. Just something to watch out for. Keep up the good work though, -- Terrillja talk  14:26, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I usually use db-person for animals because I think the spirit of the criterion applies to them, and because I imagine the people who write articles about their pets think about them as people and would be insulted if I implied they weren't.  It's certainly not an ideal solution, and since I now know someone disapproves I'll stop doing it.


 * I rather wish Twinkle had a db|reason option for unambiguous but strange cases like that; my javascript isn't very good, but maybe I'll see whether I can put together some custom code.  Anturiaethwr  Talk  14:39, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll second that, I do a lot of custom db tags where something is a mix of different criteria-- Terrillja talk  14:41, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * On second thought, never mind. I've gone ahead and requested it instead.   Anturiaethwr  Talk  15:25, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Good move at German speech
Redirection was a good decision. I was putting a "prod" on it. Someone else had flagged it for speedy deletion as vandalism, but that was excessive; it was misguided, not malicious. --John Nagle (talk) 15:40, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I love redirects; they're easy to do, useful, inoffensive, and easy to undo if you get them wrong.  A well-placed redirect is a thing of beauty.   Anturiaethwr  Talk  15:42, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Skola za brodarstvo, brodogradnju i hidrogradnju Beograd
Which wiki did you find it on (Serbian, one might presume)? I thought it might have been a copyvio myself. - Jarry1250 (t, c) 17:59, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, Serbian. It was at Skola za brodarstvo, brodogradnju i hidrogradnju Beograd, but that seems to have been deleted.   Anturiaethwr  Talk  18:05, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool. Maybe it was copyvio on that Wikipedia as well, who knows. Still, case closed. - Jarry1250 (t, c) 18:07, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That's probably it. I definitely remember seeing a maintenance template of some kind.  But, like you said, done and done.   Anturiaethwr  Talk  18:10, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Cabriel Loxley
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Lipid droplet
Hi there. A while ago (May 25) you left a notice on my page about an article called 'Lipid droplet'. Not only did I not create this article, but I have never even heard of this article. I'm just curious about why the notice appeared on my page. Thanks! Bob Amnertiopsis ∴ChatMe! 16:40, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I can think of a couple of possible explanations:
 * You created the page by accident, without realizing it. That seems rather unlikely; it doesn't happen often, and I doubt it would have resulted in a page I'd tag as vandalism or as a hoax.
 * Someone else was using your account to vandalize. Again, unlikely, given that I don't see any vandalism in your contributions, and certainly none on May 25.
 * Twinkle malfunctioned somehow. That seems the most likely.
 * The strange thing is that when I tag an article for speedy deletion, I always look at the talk page of the author and put it on my watchlist. Your talk page is very different from most of the pages I see that way (i.e., DYK credit rather than warnings), and I'm sure I would have remembered it, but I don't.
 * Since I see you've created a number of pages that have wound up at DYK, I doubt you'd have written an article I'd tag. Therefore, all I can do is apologize for an erroneous warning.  (No reason for you to keep it there, by the way, unless you're like me and leave everything on your talk page.)   Anturiaethwr  Talk  18:40, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Loutro, Messenia
Hi, I agree with you that the Loutro, Messenia article should be made into a redirect to Palaio Loutro. I only noticed the latter after cleaning up the former, but the chance of they being distinct places is too small to worry about. The only reason I did not do the merge is that Loutro, Messenia seems to be the first article by a new editor. While the editor seems to be just a kid (it would seem that he lives in Chicago and just went to visit his Greek relatives over there), at least he tried to make a positive contribution, rather than vandalize. So I do not have the heart to erase his work while he still working on it. I see no harm in letting that article exist for a while longer. I gave him a welcome, let's at least see where he goes from there. All the best, --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 17:31, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * That explains that. You're right; there's no particular harm in waiting, so let's see how things develop.   Anturiaethwr  Talk  18:00, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You may notice that the article was rescued by another editor who found out that the two are distinct towns, separated by some tens of kilometers. Thanks for your understanding that allowed the article to remain alive. It was great to see a mere kid making a nontrivial contribution to wikipedia.  Some good lessons could be learned from this incident — if only people were willing to learn. All the best,  --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 14:10, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

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 * Neat, thanks!  Anturiaethwr  Talk  11:54, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

July 2010
Why'd you remove my post...it was clean...and just fun and games —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.115.99.74 (talk) 21:52, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Since your message here appears to be the first edit by this IP address, I can't tell for sure what you're talking about. My best guess is that you're .  If you are, this edit is not acceptable, as it seems to be just a rumor about some random person.  That sort of content usually doesn't belong on articles.
 * If you're not Cs1983, then you'll have to let me know what, specifically, I removed.  Anturiaethwr  Talk  23:49, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciation
Hi Anturiaethwr, this message doesn't concern any article edits you've made, so feel free to ignore it, but... it's about the pronunciation guide on your userpage. The first "A" of anturiaethwr is the short a in (specifically British English) pronunciations of cat and bag. With the pronunciations of "u" and "ae" you give, you're sort of right, but the first is specific to North Wales and the second's a rather idiosyncratic South Walean one, so you'd never use both together. The "ae" is most commonly pronounced as in the ay in day, and the easier South Walean pronunciation of the "u" is the same as the i in win. And the "w" is specifically the oo in good, not the one in goo, but I'm sure that's what you meant.

Anyway, excellent username sir! Ham 20:05, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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