User talk:Apa07012022

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (June 15)
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DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:13, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (June 16)
- lacks any independent references or sources. The HCAA is a primary source and not independent. |sig=yes}}

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (June 16)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.


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DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:03, 16 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hellenic Civil Aviation Authority is a new Greek Independent Authority and we try to make a first reference in Wikipedia. Hcaa2022 (talk) 10:10, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I understand that's what you're trying to do, but your article still needs to comply with the rules, in this case notability. Please see WP:GNG for advice on how to demonstrate notability.
 * Secondly, it seems you represent HCAA, therefore you need to make a formal declaration of conflict of interest (COI), and also most likely declaration of paid editing. I have posted below a message to help you do this. Please note that both COI and paid editing must be declared, where they apply.
 * Thirdly, when you say 'we try to make', this suggests that your account is shared between multiple individuals, which is against the Wikipedia policy. I will post another message below to help you comply with this policy, and change your user name if necessary.
 * Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:16, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Hcaa2022. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the request edit template);
 * disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Conflict of interest);
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Spam);
 * do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:12, 16 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I am the head of IT department of the HCAA. So I do not understand why we cannot make a first reference to out organization which is an new one, as I mentioned, and its mission has to do with civil aviation issues. Hcaa2022 (talk) 10:17, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure what your argument is about.
 * You can create an article on your organisation (not directly, it has to go through the AfC review process first), but you must first declare your COI and paid editing status formally, otherwise you are contravening Wikipedia policy. This is not a matter for debate; based on what you say, you clearly have a COI and (undeclared) paid editing, so please just attend to these matters before you find yourself sanctioned.
 * Whereas if you're trying to argue that you should be allowed to create an article without citing any sources other than your own organisation, then I'm afraid this simply won't be possible. Wikipedia is never the first to publish something; we only summarise what other reliable sources have already published. If you cannot find independent and reliable secondary sources who have of their own volition covered your organisation in published media, then you will not be able to create this article. (I already tried signposting you to the relevant guidance, but I'll repeat that here just in case: please see WP:GNG.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:46, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

June 2022
Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "Hcaa2022", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it implies shared use. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username by completing the form at Special:GlobalRenameRequest, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Thank you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:17, 16 June 2022 (UTC)


 * HCAA is from Hellenic Civil Aviation Authority and 2022 is the year, this year, of the beginning of the Authority Hcaa2022 (talk) 10:19, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Because we have a policy against usernames which give the impression that the account represents a group, club, organization, company, or website – I have blocked this account. Please take a moment to either create a new account, or request a change of username of your current account here. The new username must represent only yourself as an individual and comply with Wikipedia's username policy. You should also read our conflict of interest guideline and be aware that promotional editing is not acceptable regardless of the username you choose. Additionally, if your contributions to Wikipedia form all or part of work for which you are, or expect to be, paid, you must disclose who is paying you to edit. Please also note that you are permitted to use a username that contains the name of a company or organization if it identifies you individually, such as "Sara Smith at XYZ Company", "Mark at WidgetsUSA", or "FoobarFan87", but not "SEO Manager at XYZ Company". If your username does not represent a group, organization or website, you may appeal this username block by adding the text  at the bottom of your talk page. You may simply create a new account, but you may prefer to change your username to one that complies with our username policy, so that your past contributions are associated with your new username. If you would prefer to change your username, you may appeal this username block by adding the text   at the bottom of your talk page. Please note that you may only request a name that is not already in use, so please check here for a listing of already taken names. Thank you. Cabayi (talk) 11:01, 16 June 2022 (UTC)


 * HCAA2022 it is fine. It include our acronym and our starting year. Thank you very much. 185.16.164.49 (talk) 11:03, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * HCAA2022 it is fine. It include our acronym and our starting year. Thank you very much. Hcaa2022 (talk) 11:04, 16 June 2022 (UTC)


 * No, HCAA2022 is NOT fine. Hcaa2022 is NOT fine. Hellenic Civil Aviation Authority is NOT fine. This is YOUR account, not the HCAA's. Read the policy links you've been given above. Cabayi (talk) 11:08, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * In your zeal to promote the HCAA on Wikipedia I feel you may have misunderstood the rights you've signed away for the organisation's logo. Cabayi (talk) 11:30, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * According to a new Greek Law it has been established a new Authority, which has the name "Hellenic Civil Aviation Authority" (more details we can find in our website hcaa.gov.gr).
 * This new authority has taken a big part of responsibilities from the old Authority "Hellenic Aviation Service Provider" (HASP - https://hcaa.gr) which unfortunately has already used the name "Hellenic Civil Aviation Authority" and the acronym HCAA. I understand that this is a problem, but this is now the situation as you can see also in https://hcaa.gov.gr/en/armodiotites. Hcaa2022 (talk) 11:47, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Yet again you're missing the point. This user account is **yours**, not the authority's. Wikipedia's policy does not allow usernames which represent organisations. Usernames which represent roles within organisations are also not allowed. Cabayi (talk) 11:53, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Then who is the responsible for "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenic_Civil_Aviation_Authority"? Hcaa2022 (talk) 11:55, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Nobody is 'responsible', as in there is no one editor who 'owns' that article. Everyone who contributes to it is responsible for their edits complying with the various policies and guidelines. (Which clearly hasn't been very well done, given the sourcing on it, but that's a separate matter.)
 * Look, we are trying to help you, but you're making it harder that it should be. Please start by changing your user name, so that you can (hopefully) be unblocked; otherwise you cannot do anything here.
 * Next, formally declare your COI and paid editing status, so that you don't fall foul of those rules. After that — and only after that — we can talk about the notability and referencing issues in your draft. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:01, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * What said. The relevant policies & guidelines are WP:OWN, WP:PAID & TOU. The strapline on the front page "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit" is also worth noting. Cabayi (talk) 12:07, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I have request change of my name Hcaa2022 (talk) 12:28, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Your account has been renamed and unblocked. Cabayi (talk) 12:37, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

One of your recent edits has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images&mdash;you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Copying text from other sources for more information. https://hcaa.gov.gr/en/apostoli Cabayi (talk) 14:48, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Hcaa2022/sandbox


A tag has been placed on User:Hcaa2022/sandbox requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://hcaa.gov.gr/en/apostoli. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If the external website or image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text or image — which means allowing other people to use it for any reason — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Donating copyrighted materials. The same holds if you are not the owner but have their permission. If you are not the owner and do not have permission, see Requesting copyright permission for how you may obtain it. You might want to look at Wikipedia's copyright policy for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Cabayi (talk) 12:10, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

HELLENIC CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY (HCAA)
The Hellenic Civil Aviation Authority (Αρχή Πολιτικής Αεροπορίας), abbreviated HCAA (Α.Π.Α.), is an Independent Authority of the Government of Greece.

a European Union Aviation Safety Agency

The headquarters of the HCAA are located at Spata, near the new Athens International Airport "El. Venizelos".

June 2022
Welcome to Wikipedia. Because we have a policy against usernames which give the impression that the account represents a group, club, organization, company, or website – I have blocked this account. Please take a moment to either create a new account, or request a change of username of your current account here. The new username must represent only yourself as an individual and comply with Wikipedia's username policy. You should also read our conflict of interest guideline and be aware that promotional editing is not acceptable regardless of the username you choose. Additionally, if your contributions to Wikipedia form all or part of work for which you are, or expect to be, paid, you must disclose who is paying you to edit. Please also note that you are permitted to use a username that contains the name of a company or organization if it identifies you individually, such as "Sara Smith at XYZ Company", "Mark at WidgetsUSA", or "FoobarFan87", but not "SEO Manager at XYZ Company". If your username does not represent a group, organization or website, you may appeal this username block by adding the text  at the bottom of your talk page. You may simply create a new account, but you may prefer to change your username to one that complies with our username policy, so that your past contributions are associated with your new username. If you would prefer to change your username, you may appeal this username block by adding the text   at the bottom of your talk page. Please note that you may only request a name that is not already in use, so please check here for a listing of already taken names. Thank you. Cabayi (talk) 14:50, 16 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Your latest text in this page has made it clear to me that APA is just a transliteration of the HCAA's acronym in Greek, ΑΠΑ. As the username still represents the organisation rather than you I have been compelled to block it again. Cabayi (talk) 14:55, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

A recap of the last few days...
 * "HCAA is from Hellenic Civil Aviation Authority and 2022 is the year, this year, of the beginning of the Authority" 10:19, 16 June 2022‎
 * Change of username request Hcaa2022 → Hellenic Civil Aviation Authority 10:20, 16 June 2022 rejected
 * Change of username request Hcaa2022 → Apa07012022 12:18, 16 June 2022 approved
 * I then noticed that Apa is merely a transliteration of the HCAA's acronym in Greek, ΑΠΑ, and reimposed the soft block.


 * You uploaded a copy of the copyright text http://hcaa.gov.gr/en/apostoli to your user talk. 14:16, 16 June 2022
 * Change of username request Apa07012022 → A07012022 06:38, 17 June 2022 rejected
 * Same name with a reduced version of the acronym.
 * Change of username request Apa07012022 → Av2022 07:37, 17 June 2022 rejected
 * Aviation 2022

You have been repeatedly asked to choose a username which represents you, not the organisation, and failed to do so on four occasions. As you obviously have no intention of any activity other than promoting your employer without regard to conflict of interest policy, username policy, or copyright policy I am left with no option but to convert your block to a hard block. Cabayi (talk) 09:21, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

 Your account has been indefinitely blocked from editing because of the following problems: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business, organisation, group, or web site, which is against the username policy.

You may request a change of username and unblock if you intend to make useful contributions instead of promoting your business or organization. To do this, first search Special:CentralAuth for available usernames that comply with the username policy. Once you have found an acceptable username, post the text  at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with your new username and replace the text "Your reason here" with your reasons to be unblocked. In your reasons, you must: Appeals: If, after reviewing the guide to appealing blocks, you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal it by adding the text  at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your reason here" with the reasons you believe the block was an error, and publish the page. Cabayi (talk) 09:24, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Disclose any compensation you may receive for your contributions in accordance with the Paid-contribution disclosure requirement.
 * Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked.
 * Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.


 * Self reported for review at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Cabayi (talk) 09:37, 18 June 2022 (UTC)