User talk:Apmeggison

February 2019
There have been two problems with this account: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business or other organisation or group or a web site, which is also against policy, as an account must be for just one person. Because of those problems, the account has been blocked indefinitely from editing.

If you intend to make useful contributions about some topic other than your business or organisation, you may request an unblock. To do so, post the text at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with a new username you are willing to use. See Special:CentralAuth to search for available usernames. Your new username will need to meet our username policy. Replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason to be unblocked. In that reason, you must:
 * Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked.
 * Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.

If you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal this block by adding the text at the bottom of your talk page, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Sw arm  00:01, 1 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Some things:
 * "I just want(ed) to provide information" is a distinction without a difference as far as promotional editing goes.
 * Notability (as Wikipedia defines it) isn't inheritable. It doesn't matter that individual boats associated with the organisation are notable; what matters is if the organisation itself is, as determined by multiple third-party news articles.
 * If you are working or volunteering for the organisation then you must disclose it per Wikipedia's Terms of Use and (in some jurisdictions) covert advertising laws.
 * It is possible to be promotional without trying to push a list of services. Word choice and over-detail are among the more common ways an article turns from neutral to a promotional mess.
 * As a condition of unblock an administrator may require you not to edit about the organisation, and a username change doesn't absolve you of having a conflict of interest with regards to such topics. What articles and topic areas would you edit, knowing this?
 * Hope this helps. —A little blue Bori v^_^v  Bori! 20:03, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

I do represent/work for the association, so I will include that specific note. I can certainly provide links for 3rd party news articles, videos, and television interviews about the association. I included a username change request because I was told to do so in the first communication. I will read Wikipedia's guidelines more closely and specifically pursue those references you mentioned to avoid unintentionally sounding promotional. The single article I would like to edit is "Maine Windjammers". This article currently lists a basketball team which no longer exists and hasn't for 33 years. Maine Windjammers is generally known today as the primary Maine Windjammer Fleet, which is represented by the Maine Windjammer Association. Sailmaine (talk) 20:28, 1 February 2019 (UTC)Alisa P. Meggison
 * In my search of sources, I can only find mentions advertising vacations or press release type mentions with basic announcements, which are not acceptable for establishing notability as called out at WP:ORG, the notability guidelines for organizations. Independent sources need to discuss your organization in depth in order for it to merit an article here.  As its representative, you are too close to the organization to be able to write about it in the manner required by Wikipedia.  To be successful, you would essentially need to forget everything you know about the organization and only write based on what independent sources state.  While not impossible, this is usually very difficult for people in your position to do, at least in my Wikipedia experience. I have yet to see it happen successfully.  This is why users blocked for promotional editing aren't usually permitted to edit about their own organization, and why unless you describe what else you want to edit about outside of your conflict of interest, you probably won't be unblocked. If you just want to tell about the history of the organization and its aspects, you should do that on a website controlled by the organization.  Wikipedia is not interested in what an organization wants to say about itself. Is there anything outside of your conflict of interest that you want to edit about? 331dot (talk) 12:03, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the insight and feedback. I considered this over the weekend and did some research my self, and though I can find books and news articles that mention the MWA, you are correct, they tend to be promotional in nature, and not factual.
 * I will consult with the captains to let them know the challenges presented here and writing the article from a perspective other than mine.
 * I am grateful for the guidance and your time. I will leave this rest here for the time being. Apmeggison (talk) 14:35, 4 February 2019 (UTC)Alisa Meggison

globally renamed Sailmaine to Apmeggison
globally renamed Sailmaine to Apmeggison-- Dloh cier ekim    (talk) 20:59, 1 February 2019 (UTC)