User talk:Applefan84

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Zzyzx11 | Talk 01:38, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Using town names for venues
As per your argument -- "Cherry Hills has an Englewood address (4125 S University Blvd). Englewood is standard town name for that ZIP code. Using town name is consistent for all venues."

In that case...

California State University, Northridge, although it's in Northridge should be Los Angeles just because?

We don't say that Angeles National Golf Club is in Sunland because we like being obscure. We say it's there instead of Los Angeles because Sunland is its mailing address!


 * This isn't Cherry Hills Village. Edina is a city, and a big one at that.
 * "As noted in the discussion regarding Cherry Hills, using the default town name for the ZIP is unbiased and standardized. It is non-judgmental."
 * My point is that the golf course is not in the city of Minneapolis. It is in the city of Edina. I could understand if Edina didn't exist, but it is a big town.
 * It says Edina!
 * --fpo 18:45, August 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind that the Olympic Club isn't just a golf course. It looks as though you looked at the article, you see what more it is. I will come up with another compromise at Talk:U.S. Open (golf) soon... --fpo 00:12, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

Folks: we need to discuss this matter in a more complete manner than the notes that we are able to leave behind on the "History" page. This is the problem, as I see it. When, in a publication for general consumption such as this one, you note where something is located, there is an inherent message that you have made a good-faith effort to make that location as identifiable as possible. Picking a location that is overly localized or obscure insults the intelligence of the reader, while picking a location that is too far away merely to have a notable landmark is inaccurate. Furthermore, in recent decades in the United States, affluent suburban communities have made it an increasing habit to dissociate themselves from urban cores by playing up obscure local boundaries when referring to community identities. My solution to this is to use the USPS default town name for a given ZIP code. Whatever biases the USPS uses to establish these references, they are not driven by race, culture, or class. Furthermore, it allows us to avoid making a subjective judgment about what towns are adequately well-known to be referred to as the primary reference in a location chart, such as in the U.S. Open article. It is standard and consistent for all venues.