User talk:Applodion/Archive 3

DYK for Al-Barakah (ISIL administrative district)
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Battle of Tororo
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DYK for Battle of Tororo
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:02, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Request
Hello, can we cooperate in creating the important Battle of Jenin (1948), since you are interested in writing about wars and conflicts?--Sakiv (talk) 17:24, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure, why not? I still have some stuff to finish here on Wikipedia and IRL, but I think that I can find some time on the side. First, however, I have to read some sources on the matter. :-) Applodion (talk) 17:40, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Great, here are some sources we can depend on:, , , , , , .--Sakiv (talk) 17:53, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh nice, even a map! Perhaps we can ask the Map Workshop if they can recreate that map so that we can use it for the article. Applodion (talk) 17:55, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes we can, thank you.--Sakiv (talk) 18:19, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I have started the article (see here). It has to be further expanded, of course, but I think it is best to first have a solid base to which we can add more infos. Applodion (talk) 13:09, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * It's fantastic. You have a great talent in writing. It's size looks good compared to the battle dates.--Sakiv (talk) 18:24, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Isaac Maliyamungu
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DYK for Isaac Maliyamungu
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

“daminghu”poem author
The quoted English reference materials are incorrect. Zhang Zongchang and Han Fuqu are Chinese. In the Chinese media, the poem "Daming Lake" was made by Zhang Zongchang. Han Fuqu did not have any hobby in this respect. https://www.ixueshu.com/h5/document/d45f12eb6735d6df318947a18e7f9386.html https://m.douban.com/group/topic/36549654/ https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1597609563894924480&wfr=spider&for=pc&isFailFlag=1 https://m.baidu.com/sf_edu_wenku/view/11271d2a15791711cc7931b765ce050876327520 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.195.66.24 (talk) 00:27, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The sources you quote are less reliable than the English ones, as they are blogs, forums, and commentaries, not peer reviewed literature. So the information has to stay as it is, until you find a more relible source for your claim. Applodion (talk) 09:59, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Is it not also possible that both wrote similar poems about the lake? Do you have proof that states that this poem is in no way from Han Fuju? Applodion (talk) 10:07, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

https://www.zhihu.com/question/41928960?sort=created The answer above the zhihu website has reference to the source. The published paper book shows that the poem is written by Zhang Zongchang alone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.113.168.124 (talk) 12:49, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 * In all honesty, that does not really count. One has to provide the actual source, not a photo of some book. What is that book's name? Was it peer reviewed? Does it actually state that Han did not write his own poem? Applodion (talk) 12:59, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

The actual source is of course, but you don't believe it. Zhang Zongchang has become the Shandong Warlord many years before Han Fuqu. How many of his poems are also very clear. Han Fuqu's personal style is very different from that of Zhang Zongchang. Zong Chang has received relatively formal education. The most important thing is that he cannot write the same poems as Zhang Zongchang. http://sz.people.com.cn/n2/2016/0203/c202846-27687394.html The above website is an excerpt from a regular Chinese newspaper published by a major Chinese website. It can be used as evidence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.113.168.124 (talk) 13:07, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 * What I think is not not important here! It is about the sources. Of course Lary can be completely wrong. However, as long as it is not proven that she is wrong, we cannot assume that she is wrong here on Wikipedia. It is all about sources. And that is the problem: You don't provide reliable sources. The website might be major, but it is a forum, and thus does not count as reliable, citable source here on Wikipedia. We could use the newspaper as source (newspapers usually count as reliable!), but for that we have to know the name of the newspaper (plz provide it, I cannot read Chinese), and the name of the article in which said info about the poem was provided. Perhaps you can even provide the date when the article was published? If you provide that, then we can add to the Han Fuju article a statement like this "Historian Diana Lary used a poem about Daming Lake as example for his poetry,[source] but the Chinese newspaper [name here?] has stated that Zhang Zongchang is the author of said poem"[source, the newspaper]" Applodion (talk) 13:24, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

The paper 北京晚报 is “Beijing Evening News” The fourth part of the tenth section is Daming Lake.“《大明湖》：大明湖，明湖大，大明湖里有荷花，荷花上面有蛤蟆，一戳一蹦跶. ” — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.113.168.124 (talk) 13:37, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah, good! Now we come close! Under what headline went this information in Beijing Evening News? When was the article released? Who was the article's author? Applodion (talk) 13:56, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I have also adjusted the article per the info given in the People's Daily. Perhaps you can also provide the name and date of the article in Beijing Evening News? That would be great! Applodion (talk) 14:03, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Last paragraph “责编：光子健（实习生）、王星” means ”Editor: Guang zijian (intern), Wang Xing” and Beijing evening news electronic content provided only includes after 2017, and the content network before 2017 has been deleted. Sorry！http://bjwb.bjd.com.cn/html/2017-01/01/node_113.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.113.168.124 (talk) 14:55, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh well, we cannot change that. Nevertheless, we have at least the copy/extract by the People's Daily. Thank you for your cooperation! I have also archived the People's Daily's version on archive.org so that it cannot be deleted/lost like the Beijing Evening News' version. Applodion (talk) 15:02, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Operation Thunderbolt (1997)
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Niger ambush helmet cam
Is there anyway we could cut the video to exclude the ending or just use still images from the video? Ianp18 (talk) 23:39, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Probably, though I am not proficient in cutting videos. Perhaps Help:Creation and usage of media files has something helpful about it. What we could also do, however, is to take screenshots of parts of the video and add them as images to the article. I assume that you find the video's ending too graphic, even though they already cut out the actual death scenes. I also think that you have a point about that (see Offensive material). Nevertheless, this footage is a valuable addition to the article - So we should include at least parts of it (perhaps the first half?). Applodion (talk) 00:47, 23 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Since it was originally from an ISIS propoganda video would uploading images be allowed? I do plan on adding multiple images through out the article but will do so once the article is completely updated Ianp18 (talk) 03:18, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The footage was shot by an US soldier on duty, and as result it is copyright-free/public domain - even though ISIL published it first, the video itself does not belong to them but the US military. It can be re-used and be altered. Applodion (talk) 11:17, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! Your work on the Anglophone Crisis is also commendable! Applodion (talk) 14:03, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Battle of Lira
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DYK nomination of Ethiopian Unity Patriots Front
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My mistake on SDF insurgency
Thank you for correcting my mistake that was intended for my sandbox, good catch. Takinginterest01 (talk) 20:03, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem. By the way, good job in creating the article! Applodion (talk) 20:04, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Civil uprising phase
Hello, do you agree to develop the article of the civil uprising phase, an important phase of the Syrian Civil War? I think it is possible to add a lot to it. Regards--Sakiv (talk) 21:15, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I would love to, but I am currently very busy in real life and already have a large backlog of stuff I want to update/add here on Wikipedia. Perhaps in the future. Applodion (talk) 21:18, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

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DYK for Ethiopian Unity Patriots Front
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DYK for Abdulatif Tiyua
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DYK nomination of Yusuf Gowon
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DYK for Yusuf Gowon
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Research Interview Request
Dear Applodion,

I am part of a research project at the University of Westminster, London that looks at contentious geo-political Wikipedia articles and would like to interview you about your work and the issues and intricacies within collaboration practices in article development. I have been contacting different contributors from Ongoing War articles for this purpose.

We have observed that you are an active contributor in the Wikipedia community, particularly in one article of our interest related to ongoing armed conflicts. If you would be interested in participating in this research or would like more information, please do not hesitate to contact me through the Wikipedia mailbox or my personal talkpage.

Best regards and thank you in advance. Etchubykalo (talk) 11:01, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Air campaign of the Uganda–Tanzania War
valereee (talk) 12:02, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

barnstar

 * Thank you kindly! However, I also have to say that the articles I have created for the Uganda-Tanzania War (such as the one about the air campaign) could never have achieved their current quality without the help of Indy beetle. Applodion (talk) 09:43, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Zhongli (state)
Gatoclass (talk) 14:05, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Some One Help Me
Please I want some one How know how to Publish on Wikipedia to help me Reach me on Whatsapp to discuss some thing very good +2347031960698 Sanijamilu2023 (talk) 22:40, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Not just "Turkish sources" who announced the merger of Syria factions.
This: https://www.soshals.com/politics/25122/ is a major Arabic news site, translate it and you can see the SNA commander has also confirmed the merger. Now are you convinced that the merger is real? Or will you keep reverting my edits because you find the sources not reliable enough? A4516416 (talk) 08:34, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Sorry for getting involved here but I don't think anyone is denying that the de jure merger indeed happened. The point though, is that the NFL has not ceased to exist (its ordinary fighters weren't even informed of the merger; it'll take some time for the merger and the restructuring into 4 legions to happen in practice) and that no reliable sources gave an estimated strength for the now-merged formation. As I said before, adding previously-provided numbers on our own is original research which is looked down on. 𝓛𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼𝓹𝓮𝓬𝓼 (talk) 09:02, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Exactly. By comment about Turkish and pro-opposition sources was not meant to convey that I don't believe them. The problem is just that these sources were quick to report on mergers in the past, even if these were often not or just incompletely carried out. To assume that just because some commanders say "we are united!" dozens of militias instantly merge, is unrealistic. Applodion (talk) 09:52, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * What we got is these de jure sources only though. So either we act upon them or ignore the fact that the groups have united under name because our original research proves that de facto they are not. And are we really sure this did not de facto take place? What is a source for this. I am not certain on the amount of existing NLF fighters, the source in its article page says 70.000 I doubt this too but it is the only source that gives an estimate.
 * But fine, let's not include NLF fighters under SNA just yet, but I will change the name of the SNA into NA (National Army). Since SNA top commander and Interim Government president announced this. OK? A4516416 (talk) 11:16, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I have added the name to the lede. Applodion (talk) 11:25, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Why just the lede? And why did you say it is still known as SNA and not just NA? I propose this edit: A4516416 (talk) 11:28, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Because the sources referenced in the article use the name "Syrian National Army" and nobody has clearly stated that "Syrian National Army" is no longer used (in English, that is - Arabic & Turkish are different matters). They might have officially dropped the "Syrian", but perhaps that is just a translation issue. Anyway, even if it is really only known as "National Army" from now on, I see no reason why we should delete "Syrian National Army" completely from the article, as it was the official name of the organization for about two years. Applodion (talk) 11:33, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * OK. Can we add then the number of NLF fighters into the group? Sources state the groups are merged according to their leaders. One source suggests the fighters in the groups did not know about the merger, which isn't enough evidence to prove the merger didn't take place. I suggest the addition of alleged 70,000 fighters of NLF (according to its article) in to this (92,000-105,000). If you have a better source about NLF fighters number though be free to change it into that. A4516416 (talk) 11:44, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * As said above, as long as no source clearly states that the entire formation has this strength, it would be wrong to simply add them. For all we know, groups might break off due to the merger. Apparently videos circulate on Twitter which claim that some SNA groups have actually started to fight each other today (no idea of this is true, though). Anyway, I think we should wait a bit before adjusting the numbers. Applodion (talk) 11:48, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Rather than waiting for more confirmation why don't we just add the sources we have now and than change it in the future if it indeed does not take place? What we have right now is the current fact, we should not edit regarding what might happen in the future. A4516416 (talk) 11:50, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I have made this change since the discussion stalled you can revert it anytime in the future if the merger breaks apart, is disproven or  if you have a better source regarding NLF fighter strength. A4516416 (talk) 12:04, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Al Akhbar source
Nice find with the Al Akhbar article on the PLO's involvement in the Uganda–Tanzania War. Might I ask how you discovered it? Perhaps similar sources could be found. I've been hoping to find some source that sheds more light on Libya's role, particularly names of commanders or the like. -Indy beetle (talk) 05:24, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Funnily enough, I actually just used Google to search for the Arabic translation of "Uganda–Tanzania War". The article appears to be quite prominent, and was copied by other news sites as well (possibly due to the fact that the PLO commanders were actually prominent people: Hamdan was Arafat's brother-in-law, and the others later rose to high positions). I have also tried to use Arabic translations of "Libya" in relation to the former, but have not found anything substantial so far. Applodion (talk) 07:29, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK for War of the Peters
Samwalton9 (talk) 00:02, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Andrew Mukooza
Gatoclass (talk) 01:07, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Suggestion
Hey, i saw that you were interested in working on African-related topics, and that you were from Germany, so i wonder if you'd be willing to translate Kolonialisierung des Wadai to English, since the current English article is quite lacking. P.S. i love your work! Koopinator (talk) 08:38, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure! Give me a few days. Applodion (talk) 11:23, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Are you still working on this? A month has passed now. Koopinator (talk) 18:46, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I completely forgot about this! Thank you for reminding me. I will get it done as soon as I find the time. Applodion (talk) 19:33, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Afrin
Are you implying, with your recent edit+motivation, that the Wiki article Afrin Canton is wrong or false, stating in its lead that: "in early 2018, Afrin Canton became part of the Turkish occupation of northern Syria"? --Corriebertus (talk) 10:59, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The problem is the confusion concering the names. Afrin Canton is not the same as Afrin Region. Afrin Canton, a sub-division of Afrin Region, is indeed defunct, but Afrin Ragion still operates. I removed your addition because it was out of context, seemingly implying that the entire Afrin Region is defunct. I had previously added a sentence to the Administrative divisions section explaing Afrin Region's current status ("Most of Afrin Region was occupied by Turkish-led forces in early 2018, though the administrative division continued to operate from Tell Rifaat which is under joint YPG-Syrian Army control.") Applodion (talk) 11:05, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, for the fair play (= your self-revert). --Corriebertus (talk) 11:14, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I have adjusted the text a bit and added references. I do not think that a separate header is necessary for such a short section. Applodion (talk) 11:19, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Violation of 1RR at Rojava
Hi again, please self revert here because you have made violated 1RR. KasimMejia (talk) 11:01, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Thank you for notifying me, I had not noticed. Applodion (talk) 11:06, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem. KasimMejia (talk) 11:13, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

An "Administration" should not be equated with the "region" it governs (administrates)
A region is not the same as the Administration of a region. This article is about a region (North and East Syria, or Rovaja), not primarily about some Administration of that region. Now, you've changed the lead statement on 22Oct,08:55 asserting—according to you on behalf of books by Allsopp cs (2019) and Zabad (2017)—that "The .. Administration … is a … region". Are you sure, that that is what those writers say and mean? Can you corroborate that with an exact citation? It seems rather contradictory to an article by Rudaw, which—logically—seems to distinguish between the region ("northeast Syria") and its "(Kurdish-led) administration". --Corriebertus (talk) 13:28, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Hodister
With regard to Arthur Hodister's nationality: Robert Edgerton in his 2002 book The Troubled Heart of Africa (p98) indeed mentions that he was a "black-bearded British ivory trader". This is repeated on the web page https://www.brainyhistory.com/events/1892/may_15_1892_64084.html. Yet, the more detailed biography by M. Coosemans (1948. 'Hodister, Arthur Eugène Constant.' In: Belgische Koloniale Biografie - Biographie Coloniale Belge I, 514-518.) shows that he was born on August 14, 1847 in Schaerbeek, Brussels, and was also raised there before starting his travels to Spain, Denmark, India, the Philippines, New Caledonia, Australia, the Congo etc). I can send you a pdf of Coosemenas' biography. Secondly, the Africa Museum in Tervuren, Belgian, also holds archives of and on Hodister. See https://archives.africamuseum.be/agents/people/145. They also identify him as a Belgian, providing other biographical sources than Coosemans, all converging. Firchow in his 2015 book Envisioning Africa (p65) also concludes that he was Belgian. Mcmeeuwis (talk) 09:15, 29 October 2019 (UTC)mcmeeuwis
 * Thank you for this information. I have restored your edit. Next time please explain your reasoning in the edit summary. Vandals often delete parts of articles, so when somebody does not explain their reasons for removing infos from article, one is inclined to assume that it is the work of a vandal. By providing an explanation such problems can be avoided. Applodion (talk) 10:20, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. I should indeed have motivated my change, sorry for that. Mcmeeuwis (talk) 10:49, 29 October 2019 (UTC)mcmeeuwis

DYK for Kurt Rackow
valereee (talk) 00:03, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Precious
You are recipient no. 2302 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:55, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Sorry
I misread what you wrote in the edit summary. I thought you removed the section because it is not confirmed. I didn't know that it was already in the section of human rights.--SharabSalam (talk) 17:42, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem! As you might have noticed, most of what KasimMejia added was in fact just discussions and opinions by various third parties that boiled down to "there might be violations or not". That is not useful for the main article. There, we state which groups claimed that ethnic cleansing, and which ones say that they did not happen. The reader can decide which side he believes more. Applodion (talk) 17:56, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Revolutionary Party of Mozambique
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Thoughts on this source
The New Vision released a new article about the Uganda-Tanzania War, which mentions a foiled Ugandan paratrooper operation that isn't mentioned anywhere else in our current sources. I'm hesitant to include it, because the sources haven't even mentioned what paratrooper units were doing during the war, aside from Godwin Sule taking command at the Battle of Lukaya. -Indy beetle (talk) 02:03, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Hah! This is glorious. Every new source about this conflict seems to throw another contradictory info into the ring. Anyway, I would suggest that we add it to the article(s), but only with clear attribution to the source. This paratrooper operation might be reconcilable with other information; for example, we know that the Tanzanians shot down a large number of Ugandan aircraft during the border clashes and at the Simba Hills. Just to be safe, we could put it into a note, similar to the claims about the Tanzanian pincer attack at Kagera (A story that is often repeated by numerous sources, yet appears to be completely false. In many ways, this conflict is truly baffling in regsrds to the available sources). Applodion (talk) 11:13, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Siege of Masaka
valereee (talk) 00:04, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Why would you remove my edits?
You removed my edits, basic ones replacing biased propaganda with objective language, as well as edits that were referenced to independent sources. Just because you didn't read entire article doesn't mean the source isn't there. Most of the text I removed was either sourced from now inaccessible sources or from PYD affiliated media. Check some of the sources like second section in the header, they're not accessible anymore., but you keep those pro-PYD passages but remove objective language because the source I provided is too long for you to read? The KNC page is pure PYD propaganda and you should apply same scrutiny to what is already on there, much of it entirely unsourced at this point. 195.249.232.126 (talk) 22:06, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
 * It's really simple. The "pro-PYD passages" have proper sources that support the stated information. Your changes contradicted said sources, and the references you added did not support the changes. For example you used this article to claim that media suppression caused the KNC's unpopularity - The article does not say that, however; in fact, it says that the KNC vs PYD struggle causes problems for the media, not the other way around. Overall, your changes appear to be pro-KNC POV pushing. As Semsûrî said, find proper sources and adequately use them, then you can change stuff. Applodion (talk) 22:38, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Hussein Mohammed
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Uganda Army strength
Hello Applodion. Do you know where we might find a good estimate on the number of soldiers in the Uganda Army during the Uganda-Tanzania War? Cooper and Fontanellaz have nothing but stats for several years before. -Indy beetle (talk) 21:53, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I am unsure whether we will ever get correct numbers, considering that the Uganda Army was already partially disintegrated by 1978. In this article, a Ugandan colonel claims that the Tanzanians "outnumber us by 3-1 ratio". Here, a Ugandan reporter states that Amin could field at most 6,000 men at the frontlines. I think that one of the Ugandan officers interviewed gave a number for the entire army's strength, but I cannot find this article anymore. Anyway, these interviews are probably not very reliable sources for numbers anyway. Applodion (talk) 14:05, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hmm, very well. This might be resolved through the use of those explanatory footnotes that always seem necessary with this topic. Also, if you have access to a copy of Decker's Women, Gender, and Militarism in Uganda, could you go through article and replace the Decker chapter citations with the more precise page citations? The online copy I had access to did not have page numbers. -Indy beetle (talk) 20:03, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure, will do so. Applodion (talk) 20:15, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Removal of maintenance templates
You've removed maintenance templates placed into Rojava before discussion ended, violating WP:WNTRMT. Please self revert as this is against Wikipedia rules. The admin you're quoting said it was not a revert and admitted his mistake. DongFen (talk) 11:00, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I did not violate WP:WNTRMT, and the admin did NOT agree that the tags are correctly placed. He just agreed that he should not have blocked you. That said, the edit has been undone anyway. Applodion (talk) 11:06, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I suggest you read WP:WNTRMT Do not remove if: 2. "The issue has not yet been resolved". DongFen (talk) 11:11, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, but WP:WNTRMT does not neccessarily apply in an edit war. Regardless, the edit has already been undone. Applodion (talk) 11:17, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * You're the one who is edit warring as there is consensus at the talk page for removing those material, yet yourself and other users who do not participate in the discussion are restoring the said material. DongFen (talk) 11:19, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Yet you are the only one who is fully pushing said changes, while the others who are supposedly supporting said changes are curiously absent most of the time. Look, you are the one who is behaving highly aggressive, completely ignoring the reasoning others have provided. This would not have to be an edit war - I myself would like to see this resolved peacefully. I really dislike this kind of bullfighting among editors. I would like to find a consensus, yet you do not even acknowledged my or the arguments of others. At the same time, whenever I have pointed out that your reasoning (and othat of the other pro-removal editors) do not seem logical, considering the counter-arguments, you ignore the criticism. Applodion (talk) 11:25, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Clear lie right here as 4 users argued against its inclusion and only you argued for its inclusion at the talk page. DongFen (talk) 11:26, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Two IPs of unknown background, and Amr ibn Kulthoum who is absent from the discussion since 7 December 2019. Look, I am sure we can resolve this. Could you try to read my arguments and understand my position? I am simply believing that these images are possibly useful. Applodion (talk) 11:29, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Stop lying. It's 2 IP's Sharab Salaam, Ibn Kulthoum, myself. Opposed to you. Date has no significance. I don't discuss with lying battle grounders. DongFen (talk) 11:31, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, right, Sharab Salaam. I forgot him, sorry abou that. Anyway, I see that you do not really want to have a civil discussion anymore. Applodion (talk) 11:35, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

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DYK for Revolutionary Party of Mozambique
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WP:OVERLINK
Hi. Regarding the linking of "England" at George Giffard: The way I read the Manual of Style's guidance on links (WP:OVERLINK) major countries such as England should not be linked at all. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 19:52, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I would think that "Great Britain" falls under WP:OVERLINK, though disagree in regard to England, as it is not an indepedent state but a constitute polity similar to, say, the US states, the autonomous communities of Spain, and so on. Applodion (talk) 11:47, 25 January 2020 (UTC)


 * The adjective for England, "English", is actually mentioned there: "nationalities and ethnicities (e.g., English, British, Chinese, Turkish, African-American, Hispanic)". For me, there is no question "England" is a subject "with which most readers will be at least somewhat familiar." Robby.is.on (talk) 18:13, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the restoration
Dear Applodion,

thanks for the restoration.I checked first normally, and after in a webarchive. Both times it showed an error 404. So I thought I just give it away since there is a second link. So you understand better why I removed the link. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 17:06, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. In fact, I have had the same problem in the past. No idea why, but sometimes achieved Hawar links are not shown as achieved. Who knows why this happens. Applodion (talk) 17:10, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Uganda Army
Hello Applodion. I wanted to consider the merging of the two topics Uganda Army (1971–1980) and Uganda Army (1962–1971). Though the army evolved/devolved considerably under Amin, it seems logical to consider it essentially the same institution from its creation in 1962 until its collapse in 1979/1980. Starting with Obote the army underwent expansion and politicisation, as did the key placing of certain officers in top positions for support and rewarding loyal troops with patronage, which became rampant under Amin. Despite the purges, the army employed many of the same troops (e.g. Isaac Lumago, Mustafa Adrisi, Yusuf Gowon, Abdulatif Tiyua, Hussein Mohammed) and retained the same arms and equipment (such as the OT-64 SKOT) while making new acquisitions. This is different from the other Ugandan official armies, which had completely different origins; the Uganda National Liberation Army was born out of a coalition of resistance moments in 1979, particularly the Kikosi Maalum, while the Uganda People's Defence Force came from the National Resistance Army. -Indy beetle (talk) 04:54, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I am not sure about that. Though I agree that many trends and personnel in the two armies overlapped, there were also vast differences. Despite its politicization and cases of corruption, Obote's Uganda Army was vastly better organized and its ethnic setup was very different: It had around 6,000-7,000 troops before the coup ( a great number of them Acholi & Langi), of which Amin allegedly purged 5,000 while enlisting over 10,000 new soldiers. The Drum also claimed that he killed "thousands" of Luo troops in 1972. Therefore, in terms of personnel, there cannot have been a big overlap (the entire pre-1971 army was, as far as I understand it, less than 10,000 strong); furthermore, the people who were kept were usually appointed to very different positions. High-ranking officers in the Amin-era were clerks and NCOs under Obote. The patronage system in Obote's army was also less distinct, whereas Amin even maintained an air service for this purpose and allowed rank to lose its meaning, instead relying on personal connections. In regards to the arms, however, you are right. Overall, it is true that in contrast to later Ugandan armies, Obote's and Amin's Uganda Armies were formally the same institution and this was reflected in similarities. Despite this, I honestly think that the differences are big enough to separate them. Furthermore, length has to be taken into account. Surprisingly, a lot of sources talk about details of Amin's Uganda Army - as result, I am quite sure that the article could reach the length of, let's say, Confederate States Army or Union Army. If so, keeping a separate article for Obote's military would also make sense, especially as a lot can be written about it that would not be repeated in the Amin-era Uganda Army article: For example the post-colonial legacy, the role of southern Ugandans before being purged, and the operations in the Congo and Rwenzururu. Having separate article for the same military at different points in time or in different contexts is also not unprecedented here on Wikipedia (for example the Army on the Frontier). I the end, a umbrella article for "Uganda Army" could be set up, perhaps discussing not just the regular militaries of Obote and Amin, but also the groups which regarded themselves as their continuation such as FUNA, the People's Army, and co. Applodion (talk) 08:59, 19 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Very well then - I didn't realise the full extent of the sourcing material out there would be enough to sustain two articles. That does leave the question though as to what to do with a potential article on the Uganda Army Air Force? -Indy beetle (talk) 18:33, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The is definitely enough stuff about the Uganda Army Air Force to sustain one article; however, in this case I would hesitate to split the article, as I am unsure whether there are enough sources to truly justify two articles. At the same time, the UAAF suffered from similar purges as the rest of the military. Many of the Obote-era pilots were Langi and Acholi, for example, and murdered soon after Amin assumed power. In contrast, the training programs and planes were maintained. Applodion (talk) 18:43, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Uganda Army (1971–1980)
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Flag of the Henri Krasucki Brigade on the International Freedom Batallion Article
Hello, the Henri Krasucki Brigade never displayed any flag on their pictures plus they were communist not anarchists. This flag is from a swiss organisation that was known as Action Autonome (there is a small article on them with their logo on the french version https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Autonome ). The source is wrong. The flag was desplayed by internationalists on a picture ( this one https://rage.noblogs.org/post/2016/02/25/3781/ ) that was linked with a text in french but no signature of the Henri Krasucki Brigade. Nawak1312 (talk) 20:58, 23 April 2020 (UTC)Nawak1312
 * I believe you, but we still need a reliable source to disprove an academic paper (not just some photos; and just because the flag is used by another group does not disprove the use by another militia). Applodion (talk) 21:05, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

@Applodion Ok. I just realised we can see on the source's picture that the flag was cut out from this exact picture. You can see the background through the flag. The text that was with the picture was not signed by the Henri Krasucki Brigade. I don't know where to find a more "reliable" source but it's sad to expose this false flag. I m new to Wikipedia, is there a way to at least mark this point as "suspicious" or "on disscussion" ? Thanks. Nawak1312 —Preceding undated comment added 21:24, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, as long as we have no reliable source (such as a journalist, academic, etc.) outright declare that this flag does or does not belong to Henri Krasucki Brigade, we cannot change it. I have tried to find a source on the Internet to confirm what you said, but unfortunately could not find anything. Furthermore, the photo of the two fighters might showcase from where the Carter Center took the image, but it does not prove that the Henri Krasucki Brigade does not use the flag. I hope you understand that the opinion of "experts" are generally given more weight than the opinions of Wikipedia authors; it is simply more likely that an expert is correct in these matters than your average Joe. For the moment, I fear that we cannot change it. Perhaps some academic might write an article in the future to provide better information; at the moment, however, we have to work with what we have. Applodion (talk) 09:34, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

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Removal of Southfront
Applodion, if you can, I would ask if you could follow Thepharoah17's edits throughout the Syria War-related articles in the next couple of days since he's been removing any material sourced to Southfront while not trying to find alternative sources. I have reinserted information with alternative sources which I was able to find in almost two dozen articles but its become a bit tiresome. So if you are able to replace me for a few days while I take a break that would be great. :) EkoGraf (talk) 12:05, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I will try to do so ;-) Applodion (talk) 12:08, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :) I wasn't able to find alternative sources for all of the info that was removed, but I managed for most. The rest has now been left excluded from the articles. EkoGraf (talk) 12:12, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

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Flags and logos
So why? You give the reasons you believe that something unofficial would necessarily be put in the military page in the first place?2402:800:4142:2892:C809:C645:721:BC5C (talk) 15:37, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I am getting really tired of this. It is not "unofficial" because the SNA is not a regular army, it is an alliance of militias. If it were an official army, ok, your argument would make at least a bit sense. But it is not. Furthermore, at least look at the references. Here the commanders of the SNA literally put the flag on their desk. It is not the only example. Search, like, one minute and you get hundreds of videos and images of SNA fighters and commanders using the indepedence flag. Seems like the SNA is generally ok with using the flag. I have really no idea how you can be so ignorant. Wikipedia reflects the reality on the ground; if the SNA uses a flag, we showcase the flag. Is that so difficult? Applodion (talk) 21:52, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I know what you are trying to point out. The point here is, they use the flag to represent the country (Interim government)/political affiliation (Syrian Opposition), not the military. So the flag should be only showcase for the pages that is about those identities. As the flag appeared to be widely used by many other military organizations, it's not necessary to showcase the flag in every single page of every single organization, since it likely appeals as symbol of the grand opposition that encompass them all. The FSA page is a different thing, it may plausibly showcase the flag since the FSA is pioneer as the first to raise this flag. This one on other hand is not an unique case. "Not a regular army" and widely using it are not very good points to make now since leading to further debate. Official validation should come first sir.2402:800:4142:2892:C809:C645:721:BC5C (talk) 01:08, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * What proof do you even have for that claim? Many SNA groups completely ignore the Interim government. They use the flag because they are FSA factions; they are simply used to it. They also use the flag of Turkey - that does not mean that they are part of the Turkish Army. Applodion (talk) 07:55, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Xu Chang's rebellion
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Smallfont
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A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you very much for these kind words! Applodion (talk) 17:42, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Spirit Soldier rebellions (disambiguation)


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 * I have reverted your changes, as I planned to write articles about the other rebellions. For convenience, I have already created Spirit Soldier rebellion (1959), thereby justifying the disambiguation page's existence. Applodion (talk) 14:51, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Li Guangchang
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Amin's war
Hey, Applodion. Just wanted to let you know that I think I've squeezed out most of what is useful from Mzirai for Operation Dada Idi. Second, thank you for your comment at WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Uganda–Tanzania War. Please feel free to contribute there; assistance in responding to comments about the material you worked on would be most appreciated. -Indy beetle (talk) 02:41, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I will try to help out at the nomination; sadly, the last two days were a bit more busy than I had expected. I hope that I find more time to help out in the next days. Applodion (talk) 20:33, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

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UDFAF
Hey man, thanks for the expanding of UDFAF, you're such a writing barnstar. Great work and keep it up. Mr-5 —>  (M 📩 S ✉ G)  -+-  ( Ed🖋 ting)  20:31, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much, and thank you for creating the article in the first place. Applodion (talk) 21:48, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

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DYK for Arube uprising
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Turkish occupation of northern Syria
Are you accusing me for reverting other users' edits? Perhaps check yourself. Beshogur (talk) 12:58, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I was not accusing you of anything, so I do not understand why you react so aggressively. As you might have seen, you did in fact undid the addition of archive links for many references (which was not done by Konli), and reverted rewrite changes like those from "Syria’s" to "Syria's". Minor stuff, sure, but certainly important and not related to Konli's stuff. Feel free to remove partisan stuff which is not referenced or interpretes references to a disputable degree (for example, this revert by you was fine, IMO). Applodion (talk) 13:22, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Xu Chang's rebellion and Xu Shao
My greatest apologies, I didn't mean to start an edit war at all. But now that I've looked again at (which is indeed different from 許劭—I really should've noticed it before I made those first edits), I just think, that it might be helpful to add a mention of the  hanzi for Xu Shao on the Xu Chang's rebellion page, so as to keep any other editors from making the same mistake. Please let me know what you think about it. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 15:49, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, of course - having the Chinese characters in the first place would have avoided the confusion. Other articles do the same. I should have added them myself, but alas, I failed to do so. Sorry for that. Unlike a note the addition of 許韶 is also unobtrusive. Thank you for pointing it out. Applodion (talk) 17:55, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Michel Micombero
What happens if/when countries change their name? Are you going to go around an update every article about a historical figure that says 'modern day X'? etc. Nonsense. GiantSnowman 12:46, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, of course we have to change it in accordance to the most modern usage, just as we had to update lots and lots of articles when Swaziland was renamed to Eswatini in 2018. (Also, we do say that Caesar was born in "Italy", which is linked to Roman Italy which is linked to modern Italy. As the name has not change, no "modern-day X" is needed. For later non-Italian emperors such as Trajan, where geographical names have changed, the modern equivalent is provided). Applodion (talk) 13:25, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * So with Caesar you have linked to the historical state/country, not the modern one - just as with Micombero we have linked to the historical country, which now forms a new country.
 * The same concept applies with sports teams which change name. You display the historically accurate name only. GiantSnowman 16:25, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You did not read my explanation, did you - or did you chose to ignore the part about it being important that the place name has changed or not? Applodion (talk) 16:32, 9 December 2020 (UTC)