User talk:Ararat arev/Archive2

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What are you talking about? You do nott removed source information! those are more accurate than everything you say especially the mitanni myths. Nareklm 02:52, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Vochvok chooneee ed ziner mer lezooee. I cant give examples in English cause those letters dont exist in English, and those sounds. They are not found in any other language. That is why we are a independant branch of Indo-European(Aryaee). That guy Thanasimii was even saying he doesnt trust in Greek historians. So what does that tell you? So since he doesnt, the Greek historians are the only ones who mention we are from that region of Anatolia migrated to Armenia. Dont you see that he's saying that because he's from there. Just like Assyrians who were in the southern Armenian Highlands mention Armani. Ararat arev 02:57, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Why are you saying Mitanni myth? You even have read gevork's site, and its not just him, menk Hyer emanoom enk mer budmootooon. Soot chen. You even made the Armenian kingdom of Mitanni page. Why are you ranting and raving like this man?? I even saw the khatchkar page you put the info about Armani,(Aratta) Mitanni Ararat arev 03:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * You need sourced information! do not remove these things this is a warning you read too much from Armenian highland those sources are not 100% accurate since most of it is nationalist BS. The Mitanni is impossible i did that because you wanted a page like that, and its impossible since we can barely trace back from Urartu. And letters mean nothing! if you know anything scholars and historians long agreed that names have nothing to do with inscriptions or alphabets. Nareklm 03:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Beedee havadkov emanass. Meenak geedootoon chee havadkov eh. Yev mer mshagooydov gemanass. Yev henz lezoon henz menk ayeenk. Parseeknern oo Hndeeknern mer hed meg ayeen ed jamanak. Yev khatchkaree pagen el do drar. Its not just gevork's site that I read man. Ive listend to a lot of hye historians and a lot of hye zrageers. Ararat arev 03:03, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Armenian historians can not be reliable you need other sources yet there aren't that many. Nareklm 03:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Listen, I told you Hovick Nersessian explains this, i recently gave you the New York Academy of Sciences Hovick Nersessian is in. Hovick mentions Hurrian words and sentences in Armenian. He mentions that Mitanni is an Armenian kingdom. Also, the Mitanni kings names are in Armenian. the Proto-IE language is what it was written the names are in Armenian. Ararat arev 03:06, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I also found in the Encyclopedia Americana, v. 2, USA 1970, pgs 539, 541, mentions ancient Armenian writings is cuneiform. Cuneiform meaning the Hurrian writings and Hurri Urartu wriitngs. Ararat arev 03:08, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Like i said names mean nothing, you need evidence, real inscriptions, real evidence from left over artifacts etc no pure evidence have been discovered there fore primarily research and going further from the urartu empire is indeed 100% inaccurate. Nareklm 03:10, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Luv ooremn erank el chen emanoom ov en. They dont know who the Mitanni really was then. You agree? We have evidence of us being in Armenia during Hyk's time of the Armens(Armeni) Akkadians mention in inscriptions Armeni 4,500 years ago Ararat arev 03:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Since we were there at that time, that means Mitanni since it was IE (Aryaee) that would be none other than our people (also Persians and Indians), we were together at that time. That is why there as an Indo-Aryan migration Ararat arev 03:13, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Mitanni began at 1500 BC right you see? Yet the Indo-Aryan migration in the Encyclopedia I looked at says, 1500 BC Indo-Aryans migrated to Persia and India?? Ararat arev 03:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * This is the third time there isn't enough evidence that proves that Armenians were related to the Armens names mean nothing!!!!. Also those tribes have nothing to do with Armenia you're just guessing about Armenian history now. Nareklm 03:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Khent es toorkern edbess hasganoom. Oo soot banner asoom. You sayig Armeni is different than Armeni(a) ????? I said to this day the Assryains which you said is a witness to our history, mention the same Armeni written down 4,500 years ago in their inscirptions. Ararat arev 03:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Im done with this please do not message me anymore take it to the talk page! Nareklm 03:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

What talk page? This is the talk page. Ararat arev 03:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Article talk pages! where its supposed to be. Nareklm 03:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Assyrians are not only witness for our Urartu history. Listen man, you were telling me the first time you message me. You said Assyrians are a great witness to our history. Am I right or not that you said this man? Ararat arev 03:21, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Those were the Urartu people! theres a diffrence!Nareklm 03:23, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

You obviously discrediting gevork's work man. You didnt even read about our architecture and engineering? We have always had that great skill in shineloo yev architecture and building. It is "art" work to us man. We have always you can see all those 4,500 years ago even about our architecture in Armenia. That proves we are bneeek Hye. Ararat arev 03:24, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Just compare to our neighboring peoples, the Persians, Assyrians, Kurds. Its not them, and Hurrians didnt vanish in thin air. Sumerians didnt vanish in thin air. Menk enk Narek, Menk enk. Hye meeshd ah yeghel Hyesdanoom. Armenern meesh el yeghel. Mee togh sootn hakhtee Ararat arev 03:26, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Obviously architecture has nothing to do with history first of all!!! another thing is we can be from them that doesn't mean there Armenians! and you obviously cant understand do not flood my talk page. One more time I'm done with you. Nareklm 03:31, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Emanoom es inch eh jshdeez? Toorkern ozoom en tetevadznen hye dodn, zeghaspasnootoonen. Ozoom en asen vor menk Hyeasdaneedz chenk. Vor mardeek el garzen menk eranz nman versrel enk odarneree yergeer. Ararat arev 03:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Patrick
Vapsha hagestanci and bro when i tell you not flood my inbox i mean it, indz kagerenum. Nareklm 22:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Gevork told you my name? Ararat arev 22:35, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No man I'm psychic. Nareklm 22:38, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Gevork told me some things about you. He said you emailed him to make his "bio" in Wikipedia and Armenpedia. Ararat arev 22:39, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Chist eh so we can show how credible he is (Or his information). Nareklm 22:40, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

He lives not to far from me in Glendale here. He has PHD in Armenology in UCLA. I talked to also by phone. Ararat arev 22:42, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Armenology = Hyeagidootoon. Ararat arev 22:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah man hey do you have those films of him talking about history? Nareklm 22:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Why are you all of a sudden acting different then last night. You purposely wanted to remove those images and pages you made? The Khatchkar page you didnt do for me. I never said to make that. Im glad you made those pages and the Mitanni one. I never said to make that page, but Im glad you did it for a good reason havada. No I dont have those videos on the internet. Those are recording on my videos from Hye zrageers. Ararat arev 22:45, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I told you I learned on my own, I didnt just read his internet site and learn our history or astronony, knowledge and wisdom, and knowing the mysterys of Asdvadz yev Asdvadzee janabar. Ararat arev 22:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Cause indz jagahnatsmatoyer im calm, and you might wanna check this out, http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Main_Page you get it? Nareklm 22:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

He even said we share knowledge. We have different gifts each of us. You might know some parts that I dont know, I might know some you dont know. For example when I realized our sounds are only found in Chinese and no other language. Our 8 or 9 sounds that nobody has. We are a unique IE language, which is the origins. Ararat arev 22:49, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * That doesn't matter Patrick you have to realize this everything you say has been discovered i dont think historians are dumb have you even gone to college? Nareklm 22:50, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Of course I have, have you? I havent studied in specific on history, bytes sirel em vor jarel em hasgazel em. They are not always right man. For example when they say our language is like Greek, thats part of it when we shared cultures during the Greek and Roman periods of our history. The Greek language doesnt have our sounds. They dont have those 8 or 9 sounds. You know which ones Im talking about ? For example "Jeesht" = true the J they dont have. Huz = bread the "z" they dont have. Yet these people explain we are from Greeks majority. Ararat arev 22:54, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Zar = tree the "Z" is not in English, so how can I explain without the phone?? I need to get on the phone with you and explain. Ararat arev 22:55, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well words don't really matter like i said we need evidence thats why I'm planning on going to eastern turkey our ancient lands and find stuff it can really prove alot of things. Nareklm 22:57, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Do AIM unes? Nareklm 22:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

These unique 8 or 9 sounds are found in one place which they "havent" discovered fully the "Hurrian" langauge. Just ask Thanasimii, ask anyone they havent found the Hurrian language fully yet. They havent translated all of them, but as much as they those sounds that we use are from the Hurrian language sounds and SumerianArarat arev 22:59, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

You have to see the "fullness" of our history. Its not just language. Its faith, culture, knowledge and wisdom etc etc. Ararat arev 22:59, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

AIM choonem. I have Yahoo messenger you have? Hurrians didnt disappear in thin air. Ararat arev 23:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Nah i only got AIM. Nareklm 23:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

None of the IE peoples sounds are like our language which they say is "independant" branch of IE. I can see why they say that now. Ararat arev 23:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey man you should really use myspace theres real cool people and historians you can discuss things with i know a guy artur who would love to debate with you (hopefully not crush you lol) one of my groups Nareklm 23:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Did you look at the chart in Gevork's site from Martiros Kavoukjian? In the Dynasties section? Armenic Shinars section the chart shows Garoon the same Garoon in Sumerian (Spring), shows many words like kaitz, (spark), ab (ap) sea shore. etc etc. Ararat arev 23:06, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Did you understand what I said earlier? I said the Turks want to justify their genocide, by saying we did the same taking other peopels lands. Ararat arev 23:06, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Who is that guy from myspace? Maybe its one of the guys of those sits I gave you? Did you read those sites? You probably seen them before? Arevordi.blogspot.com? Azgaser? Stsarkis.org/armenianalphatbet. http://www.tacentral.com ? Ararat arev 23:08, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * That group is one of mine do you have a myspace? aper if you do email artur he knows everything believe me. Nareklm 23:09, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Which group is yours? Which site? Aper? :) Im Parsgahye but doesnt matter we are all Hye. http://www.saintsarkis.org/Language.htm Ararat arev 23:10, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Gevork knows a lot too. Artak Movsisyan came here just a week ago, he made a video about Metzn Digran. Artak is the one mentions specific about Aratta and Hayas(Haik). Artak mentions the Mitanni Proto-IE names are Armenian. Ararat arev 23:13, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I know man!!! i missed his lecture in boston a few weeks ago im so pissed. Nareklm 23:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Heres my group http://groups.myspace.com/armenianresearch theres only me and some other guy i invited artur now you join and start discussing okay? and artur will comment hes smart. Nareklm 23:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

He went to Boston? Why are you intersted in Persian history? You should check out Hovick Nersessian's books. I talked to him by phone. Dareekov mard eh inkn hima. He is old now, he knows all the cuneiform writings of Persia even. He explains how Persians took a lot of thigns from Armenians in the past. (about Avesdan) Hovick is the man I told you is in the New York Academy of Sciences Ararat arev 23:16, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Join my group and just start posting your information bro like i said artur will comment he knows alot of things. Nareklm 23:19, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

What is it really for? Whatever that will help our history I'll do. Did you like the Urartu pictures? Also the new Hye bar pictures? Ararat arev 23:22, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The group is for anyone to join, its a forum we can discuss things and debate post your information and we'll start discussing before we make your talk page the biggest in the world lol :-D Nareklm 23:24, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Let's try to get a Mitanni map, I like that you put the Dynasties of Armenia links from Gevork's site. None of us have a site like Gevork. Gevork has devotged 10 years in making the site. So his site is very very good. Armenianhighland.com, the name is also very good. Its not one of those external sites you know? Did you like the Urartu pictures? You can use others if you want from gevork's site or some other site Ararat arev 23:25, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * My website is yegoyan.com but it sucks i havent updated the layout i dont know what to do. Nareklm 23:26, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Can you archive for me? I forgot how, what was the "code" for archive? somethign:archive1 ? Ararat arev 23:27, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes wait up. Nareklm 23:27, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

You said only 2 people
Srank ov en ?? Who are all these people?? I dont want to add all these to my space you said only "2" people Ararat arev 23:54, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Only in the group lol and you dont add them discuss it in the forums. Nareklm 23:55, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I dont know who they are. They could be against Hye. Ararat arev 23:56, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Were you the first to email me? Ararat arev 23:56, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No man the Armenian genocide profile and armenia there armenians dont worry. Theres tons of them on myspace. Nareklm 23:57, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Mine is the one with the armenian flag with the symbol on it. Nareklm 23:57, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Are you Arevmdahye? You listen to ed yerker? Yes chem lsoom ed yerker. I never liked those songs. Ararat arev 23:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Who is Arevmdahyee? Nareklm 23:59, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

You said you were Arevmdahye I think you said that in the beginning? Ararat arev 00:00, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Let me see the URL. Nareklm 00:00, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

You said it in the first discussions. Thats what I remember. You said I sound Arevmdahye thats why I thought. Also, I know yours is the flag I see it in the friends list. Ararat arev 00:01, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep i invited you to groups if you want to have discussions with hyerer. Nareklm 00:02, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Also on my group start posting your information. Nareklm 00:02, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Im trying add comment it says doenst work. It says that user unnknown something like that. Also I forgot how to add photos. I uploaded but I forgot Ararat arev 00:17, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * If you just joined myspace it takes a week till you can post lol. Nareklm 00:23, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I figured out how to put the picture finally. Did you see the ne wpictures? Ararat arev 00:26, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek you have to approve first.

This user requires all comments to be approved before being posted. Your comment has been submitted to this user for approval. Ararat arev 00:31, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

How did you do it? *User talk:Ararat arev/Archive2 ? Ararat arev 23:29, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Im not sure what you mean. Nareklm 23:35, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

How do you archive? Ararat arev 23:35, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek, add in the Mitanni kingdom in History of Armenia article. Ararat arev 23:36, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Join the group bro are you going to or not? Nareklm 23:38, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I logged in myspace. Search for my email d4niel11@yahoo.com Im there online What is your name and how do I talk :D I forgot long time I havnet even used it. Ararat arev 23:40, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I added you, uhm i donno ill invite you. Nareklm 23:44, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

You listne to ed yerker? Ed yerker yes chem lsoom. Hye yerker em lsoom meenak. Also, fedayee listens to trance I like trance also. Ararat arev 23:51, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Srank ov en ?? Who are all these people?? I dont want to add all these to my space you said only "2" people Ararat arev 23:54, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

'''Where did you go? It says you have to approve first'''

It says you have to approve for me to comment there. Ararat arev 00:48, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thats my profile, use the group. Nareklm 00:51, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Can you add other people to see my page? Did other Hye see my page? Is it good so far? Ararat arev 00:53, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I dont know man lol its your page. Nareklm 00:55, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Myspace has big delays because so many people use it. Ararat arev 00:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Its very slow if you noticed. Ararat arev 01:00, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Not that slow :-) Nareklm 01:03, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Its very slow, im trying to upload images and update my html code Ararat arev 01:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Very nice. 01:06, 8 January 2007 (UTC)Nareklm

Tacentral has good pictures. Why dont you put historical pictures and info on your myspace page? Ararat arev 01:07, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I dont know i dont feel like it lol i have too many profiles about Armenia already. Nareklm 01:11, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Put my profile picture in with you 2. In the Armenia research page I saw mine is not in front. Ararat arev 01:11, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * In the members section or moderator? I can't lol. Nareklm 01:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Why not ? In the members section where your picture and Tigrans is Ararat arev 01:15, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh it will show up later i dont fix that its from myspace. Nareklm 01:15, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I put the Urartu : Garmeer, gabooyd, narenjee as main picture Ararat arev 01:19, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Im the moderator lol, you uploaded two pictures of you lmao. Nareklm 01:24, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

No. I switched my picture with the Lions Hye drosh Ararat arev 01:27, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh man do you ever laugh? or joke around? lol Nareklm 01:29, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Ehargeh. Eem engerooees beedee desnem Hyeasdanoom es amar. :D Didnt you see my picture? Zizaghoom em Jbtoom. I didnt see your picture do you ? Ararat arev 01:31, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Listen you cant know someone like this if you want email me let's talk by phone. I have a 10 10 number its cheap. I gave you my email Ararat arev 01:32, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Nah its alrite man lol. Nareklm 01:33, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you want me too archive your pages every time they get long? Nareklm 01:33, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Amen Hye Orakh gelnee shootov. Mer budmootoon beedee sarkenk garevor eh abagyee hamar. Gevorkn el nooyn eh asoom. Ararat arev 01:34, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I didn't quite understand that. Nareklm 01:36, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

What you want me to show you I smile? You wondering about things like I have a gf? Yes I do. :D HahArarat arev 01:39, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Im sayhing my space keeps you off the path. Janabareedz doorz eh. Meenak edegh zangootyan banner en. Hooshd Hye budmootyan chee aydegh. Gevork and I and many other Hye asoom enk vor shootov galees eh ayd jeeshd yev orakh jamanakn. The truth is we need to know our history for our abaga luv elnee Ararat arev 01:41, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I know that bro but you can't do this alone you need many other historians gevork is not a historian and you aren't too we need more people who can prove this. Nareklm 01:42, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I just did that muich of my space hopefully it will be helpful for our history. Ararat arev 01:43, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Did you see the updates on my myspace? Ararat arev 01:43, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thats not going to help at all lol, but if you do want to do this you can make a website about this and promote it or i can turn yegoyan.com to a website about mitanni etc. Nareklm 01:46, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, relax, im just getting started. I;ll add everything soon. Hopefuly. Ararat arev 01:48, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Your myspace page won't do you need a website if you want people because people will read this and than more people will pass this on than new theories will raise and more people would know. Nareklm 01:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Tv show
Do you watch Vartanank? Watch it, its every Monday night at 11pm. Actually for you its very late its at 2 am :( ARTN channel its all over. You cant watch actually I remmeberd on internet artn.tv Ararat arev 01:57, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

http://artn.tv/shows/?p=show&show=9 Vartanank they talk about Armenian History all of it from beginning history Ararat arev 01:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

They talk about what all of our historians say. Artak Movsisyan is therre sometimes, Hovick Nersessian, all the historians are there on the show. They talk about all of our history, Sumerian, Mitanni, etc etc, Ararat arev 01:59, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No i have no idea what it is. Nareklm 02:00, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Boston and everywhere now its global channel ARTN, but for you its going to be Monday at 2am thats too late for you, over here its 11 am. Look at the link its on the internet you can watch http://artn.tv/shows/?p=show&show=9 Ararat arev 02:01, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Where is it the schedule? Nareklm 02:05, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't have Armenian television. Nareklm 02:07, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I told you Monday nights at 11pm Pacific here. You are in Boston it will be too late 2 a.m at night. Monday nights you can watch on the internet though. The guy gave the link on TV. The one I gave you artn.tv
 * Oh on the internet! :-D lalala :-) lalala Nareklm 02:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Haha :) Ararat arev 02:16, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Es ngarnern shat siroon en. Yev Hye hogeen eh khosoom :) Ararat arev 02:18, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I registered to the site but where do i go to watch the videos? when its live do they put it on :-) Nareklm 02:19, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll find out about it. Its on my tapes that I recorded and tomorrow night they will explain again. :) Also look at my my space now. I'll add info more later. Ararat arev 02:20, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Here it is myspace page http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=30451865 Ararat arev 02:27, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Do pokr es dareekov? 23? Ararat arev 02:32, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Ararat im not on every second i will reply when i get on you dont have to message me on my talk page you have to understand that lol. Nareklm 02:49, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Did you approv me so I can message you also in your Blogs myspace? Ararat arev 02:55, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah? did you approve so I can message you? Put a comment those things. Ararat arev 02:57, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually I figured it out. You have to approve my comment. So approve it so it can show there. Ararat arev 03:01, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay. Nareklm 03:07, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Vartanank
Narek I told you where those false info comes from. Since they want to lightn the zeghaspanootoon. They say that we also came later and took other peoples lands just as they dajeek did. Ararat arev 06:13, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Just take a look at Vartanank hopefully it will work on the internet streaming, and all our historians knows about our true history. Artak Movsisyan just one of many many recent historians, young etc. Ararat arev 06:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Check the Armenia research page, I posted new topics.

Chech my updates on my page also. http://myspace.com/30451865 Ararat arev 20:03, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

You didnt respond today. Did you see the topics I posted on the Armenian Research group? And did you see my page updates? Ararat arev 02:16, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Im glad you brought up myspace to my attention. Now we can see more younger Hye like your age look into our history. To get more into our history and to love our history and budmootoon. To know it has to do with our abaga also. Ararat arev 05:28, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek I just looked at the schedule, Vartanank is repeating at Sunday 12 noon your time. So you can watch Sunday 12 noon. I dont know what channel it is in Boston, but just look in your channels they have it in Boston too. They are everywhere I think. Ararat arev 05:41, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Look up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushku To find more about Phrygians and Mushku or Mushki(Mushkitsi) These are Georgian tribes, they have nothing to do with our history. We are never remembered by the name Phrygians, but yet we are rememberd by Nairi etc etc. Greeks say there is no link with Assyrians referring to Phyrgians as Mushki, yet Moshchoi which Greeks use is Georgian tribes. We have always called ourselves with the name Armen. The most common Armenian name. A nationality just doesnt forget its name, or put another name sometime in their history, it doesnt work that way. Ararat arev 17:40, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek did you look at my updates in http://myspace.com/30451865 ? Did you see the Haik section? You need to know the fullness with culture, history, astronomy, truth, way, life, etc etc. Its not just history. Ararat arev 20:03, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

If you truely want to help Armenian people and our history, work on other sites too like Armeniapedia. Ararat arev 20:05, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek, also if you want to find out if Mitanni is truely Hye(Armenian), then go find out dont rant and rave at me about it being false. Just go find out for yourself. Do your own research on it, hopefully you can find the truth. Know the importance of the time we went to Egypt and were with the Egyptians with the wisdom and knowledge, astromony etc etc. Ararat arev 20:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Please dont post your messages everywhere on myspace or here please put it in one place. Nareklm 20:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek, Dont waste time with foolish people like Artur come call Vartanank and speak ignorance. Listen to Davo88 here, and Gevork from Armenianhighland.com. If you dont like me thats ok. I dont know why, but listen to Gevork and Artak Movsisyan and Davo88. Ararat arev 20:22, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Armenia talk page (I removed) lets not make it long there

 * That name is of Semitic origin, and is also used by Assyrians, and probably by Arabs too. Nayiri is its Armenian derivation. By the way, "Nahr" means river. -- Davo88 19:23, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Ararat Arev your research is based on names only a few historians have claimed that mitanni were indeed Armenians therefore it is not encyclopedic unless more people accept this which will not happen names don't matter like i said you need real proof. Nareklm 19:45, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek did you look at my updates in http://myspace.com/30451865 ? Did you see the Haik section? You need to know the fullness with culture, history, astronomy, etc etc. Its not just history. Ararat arev 20:02, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek, if you truely want to help Armenians and our history, work on other sites too, Armeniapedia etc etc. Ararat arev 20:05, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek, also if you want to find out if Mitanni is truely Hye(Armenian), then go find out dont rant and rave at me about it being false. Just go find out for yourself. Do your own research on it, hopefully you can find the truth. Know the importance of the time we went to Egypt and were with the Egyptians with the wisdom and knowledge, astromony etc etc. Ararat arev 20:07, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Like i said all you do is look at names. Nareklm 20:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Dont waste time with foolish comments like that. Help on Armenian history and Armenian people. Jeesht Hye ellee. Jeesht Hye hogee onezeeArarat arev

Narek, Dont waste time with foolish people like Artur come call Vartanank and speak ignorance. Listen to Davo88 here, and Gevork from Armenianhighland.com. If you dont like me thats ok. I dont know why, but listen to Gevork and Artak Movsisyan and Davo88. Ararat arev 20:20, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay buddy! if your trying to change armenian history supposibly accurately wikipedia is not the way become a historian present your facts and go on, like you said help on armenian history, if you do care. Nareklm 20:22, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

This is very imoportant for our history and people. Why are you doing it then? Why is Davo88 doing this too? Am I the only one correcting our history in Wikipedia?? This is very important because 1000's of young and old Hye are checking the site on our history. We have to correct those "Yegvor" issues  Ararat arev 20:24, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Hai discussion
Narek, Dont waste time with foolish people like Artur come call Vartanank and speak ignorance. Listen to Davo88 here, and Gevork from Armenianhighland.com. If you dont like me thats ok. I dont know why, but listen to Gevork and Artak Movsisyan and Davo88. Ararat arev 20:22, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * You post your comments on the armenia page, my page and myspace post it on one place! thats annoying!. Nareklm 20:24, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Where do you want me to post it. Let me know. By the way, you lied about groups Armenian Research, you ddint put me in the front with you and Tigran. You can manually do it, please do it. Its important for young Hyes to see it.

This is very imoportant for our history and people. Why are you doing it then? Why is Davo88 doing this too? Am I the only one correcting our history in Wikipedia?? This is very important because 1000's of young and old Hye are checking the site on our history. We have to correct those "Yegvor" issues Ararat arev 20:26, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well im just saying you can not do it here its not going to help and everyone will revert your edits. Nareklm 20:27, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

There is Davo88 who knows as much as Gevork and I. You are doing a good job man, Im not sayig something bad about you. You are 16 that is very good. You still have a lot to learn about astronimical knowledge and wisdom connected with our history and truth. Gevork as you see on his site explains all this. I knew this before I saw his site thats why it was amazing. Learn astronomy and truth also with our history. I was always into astronomy from the time of age 8. Arara t arev 20:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek, dont argue and fight. We need to work together. If you want things to work out you need to work together. Im not spamming, we need to correct our "History" and so people will understand the Armenian genocide issues and the "Yegvor" issues. This is what its about and nothing else. Also you need to gain more knowledge on astronomy and truth its linked with our history. Look at Gevork's site a little since he put that info there. Ararat arev 20:32, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes i am young and also thats why im going to become a historian your sources are valuable since turks are twisting up our history i am going to document all this information including the mitanni and Egypt etc, im also going to publish a book hopefully soon. I know you are trying to correct our armenian history but you have to follow the rules like you did to eupators page or mine do not flood there pages. Nareklm 20:34, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Medz mardee hed es khosoom shnorkeen :) Just kidding you are good man. Gevork and I are proud of you. Hopefully Hye yerker dnesss ko myspace luv? Put me on the Armenian Research members with you and Tigran? Ararat arev 20:36, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Bro i dont do that you asked me last time lol you click view members it shows all of us its from myspace. Nareklm 20:41, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

So it lets only "2" people to show in the front page? You are the moderator though. Ararat arev 20:44, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Just do something so that page I made shows up in the front so people can see, and not have to go find it. Ararat arev 20:45, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * You will in a week or so i dont do anything to that i cant touch it. Nareklm 20:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

A week? Ok thats not too bad, we can wait a week can we? :) Did you see the updates I made? Ararat arev 20:48, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah i just looked again make sure you state your references where its easy to find. Nareklm 20:51, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

You're talking about the Armenian language roots and Haik sections? Those are my own. You mean Gevork's references on his info? I dont get what you mean exactly. Ararat arev 20:55, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well okay and put that image of "i dug this water course in armenian" the image and the text please. Nareklm 21:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

We can put that also, We can put the Sumerian charts that show Armenian words also. Ararat arev 21:04, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Did you see the updates now? And was Artur your friend the same Artur who called Vartanank? Ararat arev 21:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Who the hell is vartanank lol. Nareklm 21:15, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Vartanank, the show I told you to watch Monday nights. Ararat arev 21:17, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * They dont show that show here and please reply here. Nareklm 21:31, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah but your friend Artur is from ? Glendale or around So. Calif? Ararat arev 21:45, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Glendale and I'm from Boston. Nareklm 21:50, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah so he's from Glendale, did you tell him to watch the show last night? And was it him who called in with a question or statement? Ararat arev 21:51, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Artur needs to check out Gevork's site and meet Gevork. We all need to meet together :) Ararat arev 21:53, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No thanks buddy lol i live in boston and i dont think its him. Nareklm 22:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

You dont "think" its him? Im asking if you told him about the show and what time it was showing. The way you describe Artur, I dont know you didnt explain well about him. As far as you told me, you said to "talk to him" as if he's the main source for all answers. Ararat arev 22:56, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Because the Artur that called was very prideful and selfish thinking, and was totally wrong about what he was stating. Ararat arev 22:57, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * He has a higher education than most of us in history and he knows alot you have to know the regions near armenia before you start making up stuff im not saying you are in general making up new things with certain amounts of evidence. Nareklm 22:59, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Im asking if it was your Artur that called the show. Did you tell him about the Vartanank show or not? Ararat arev 23:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

You didnt watch the show to see what they were discussing. Artur needs to meet with me and Gevork sometime. Did he go to Artak Movsisyan's event? Ararat arev 23:03, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No man what are you talking about lol. I dont know anything about if he went or not. Nareklm 23:04, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Pride isnt going to get anyone anywhere. Asdvadz hbardooton chee siroom. Artur could know certain things I dont know about, because he learned them. It doesnt mean you cant or I cant. Has Artur seen Gevork's site? Ararat arev 23:06, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

You're still not answering me. I said did you tell your friend Artur to watch the show? By the way you need to change your site, Jeeshd Hye elnel edbess chee Ararat arev 23:06, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

I dont know what kind of friend Artur is to you, but if he hasnt told you to change your myspace site?? I already know what kind of person he is, and the Artur that called seems like that kind of person. He was totally fooled by certain things he's heard about Armenians being fooled and lied too during Trdat's time. Ararat arev 23:07, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Hye meeshd Araricheen janachel eh. We have always known the truth from the roots from the origins of life. From the birth and rebirth of life. Ararat arev 23:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Theres tons of arturs in glendale i doubt its him. Nareklm 23:09, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Im not asking you if its him. Just answer my question Narek. I said did you tell him to watch the Vartanank show or not? Ararat arev 23:11, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

You have no idea what Im asking. I already know what type of person Artur is. Artur is very prideful and selfish. That is not how we are going to correct our history for our people and future. It has to be done "together" meeasseeen yev serov Ararat arev 23:12, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

I dont want to judge Artur, but Gevork is way different. Gevork is on the right track. Just listen to Gevork ok? Listen to your father, specially if your father is into Hye gidootoon Ararat arev 23:13, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

If Artur was that special he shouldve been known by now. Where is his site? Has he been on Hye tv channels? Has he written a book? Has he helped correct our history? Has he been in Myspace Armenian Research from your page? He's no where. You are making someone up? Ararat arev 23:16, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No i invited him he doesn't have too much time on myspace lol and my father would love armenian history but again nationalism has affected our history, Nareklm 23:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

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Regarding the Mitanni seal that was removed
User:Nareklm removed the Mitanni seal and put in "copyvio" in the image, when admin User:Jkelly, which handles the copyright images approved it. Nareklm was trying to justify his reasons by created this "false" info in order to remove a Mitanni "related" image. The Mitanni seal was put their and approved by admins and other users who work on Mitanni, otherwise they would have removed it right away as they do with other wrong edits Ararat arev 22:58, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I will let all of them know, also, read in Talk:Mitanni I put it there. Ararat arev 23:02, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I messaged User:Jkelly about this. He approved the image its not copyvio. The copyright handler approved this, look in the edit history. You are not understanding I guess. Admin User:Jkelly approved this. Ararat arev 23:12, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I dont see anything no confirmation message on the images. Nareklm 23:13, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

You dont see it ? I'll show you now. look here and here Ararat arev (Talk | contribs)

← Older edit 	Revision as of 20:34, 4 December 2006 (edit) (undo) Jkelly (Talk | contribs) (rm spurious copyright notice, add correct copyright template (one down)) Newer edit → Line 1: 	Line 1: - 	Gevork Nazaryan armenianhighland.com copyright © 1997-2006 	+ 	==Summary== This image is from Martiros S. Kavoukjian's The Genesis of Armenian People, Montreal, 1982. It is the royal seal (winged eight-pointed sun disk flanked by two lions and two eagles) of the King of Mitanni Sauššatar (c. 1440-1410BC) (p. 97). Originally from G. Contenau's 19th century text La Civilisation des Hittites et des Hurrites du Mitanni Paris. p. 62.

User:Jkelly added this. Ararat arev 23:15, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * That doesn't say anything important nothing is specified in the image. Nareklm 23:16, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

What are you talking about? I said User:Jkelly approved it look at his edit by clicking (last) on his edit history. Ararat arev 23:18, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

User:Jkelly handles copyright images. He approved it. He's an admin. I let other admins know what you're doing is wrong. Ararat arev 23:20, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well its from Armenianhighland.com and there is no ticket confirmation. Nareklm 23:21, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Im going to put straight out his quote there. I even messaged him so he will do it hismself if you revert mine. He will come back and do it himself. Its this "add correct copyright template" This is straight from his quote here. Ararat arev 23:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC) Narek, the Urartu references in the Military History of Armenia, I added others besides Gevork Nazaryan's armenianhighland.com. Ararat arev 05:03, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek, now that you're here, can you add back the Urartu warriros picture in the Military history of Armenia page. Ararat arev 05:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Urartu was not Armenia nor Armenians if we put it its feel of inaccuracies because it yet has not proven its self. Nareklm 05:19, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

They removed it cause, I guess the History article wasnt fitting right? Putting it in a more suitable place. Ararat arev 05:19, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, just add it back, it was removed only cause the article didnt fit right. That's in the Urartu page, you even told me to put in the Gevork nazaryan reference for that look on this page at the bottom. Also, you added some good pages, Im glad you did. You added Martiros Kavoukjians page, thats good. Luv eh. Ararat arev 05:21, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

You put in good links here  Did you search in the Armenian bible yet Job 9:9 etc ? Haik is Orion hasgazar hima? Also, add in Mitanni in the History Article since you yourself put in the Category of History Armenia. Ararat arev 05:26, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you have references to the bible? Nareklm 05:26, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

No, I didnt know we had to put Bible references also. Ararat arev 05:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No you have too everything needs references its the rule in wikipedia. Nareklm 05:35, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok we have references, put in the Urartu warriors picture back. Also add in Mitanni in the history article, you put in the Category:History of Armenia links also. You put in Martiros Kavoukjian's book page which you made. He has another book with the Mitanni seal in it. Ararat arev 05:38, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you have short memory loss?? Nareklm 05:40, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

No, somebody else had put in the Mitanni link in the Category:History of Armenia. I just saw the history edit of it. We have references I said of Urartu, just put in the picture back already man. Ararat arev 05:44, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

"Narek, now that you're here, can you add back the Urartu warriros picture in the Military history of Armenia page. Ararat arev 05:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Urartu was not Armenia nor Armenians if we put it its full of inaccuracies because it yet has not proven its self. Nareklm 05:19, 14 January 2007 (UTC) " Nareklm 05:46, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah thats ok. Davo will add it back. Ararat arev 05:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Than ill just revert it back. Nareklm 05:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

You're not reading what you wrote here just yesteday:

"Ararat add references to the summary you added even Gevork nazaryan he does qualify or people are going to whine. Nareklm 01:28, 12 January 2007 (UTC)"

"Yeah thats good merci. Nareklm 01:34, 12 January 20" This was regarding the Urartu part in Military section you told me to add the references Ararat arev 05:51, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Urartu is NOT Armenia therefore it does not belong in Military history of ARMENIA. Nareklm 05:53, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, than you're denying yourself. You just wrote that part yesterday. You change your thoughts every day then. Ok. Ararat arev 05:55, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It's because i was wrong, and you use fake references i saw your mitanni one from artak movisyan thats really from armenianhighland.com Nareklm 06:00, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah that book from Artak Movsisyan, he mentions Mitanni and their IE names in Armenian. Absos chgnazeer era zrageern. You can buy his book and find it. Ararat arev 06:06, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well than i guess that website copies material. Nareklm 06:07, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

It doesnt copy material. Gevork just puts references just as Wikipedia does. Ararat arev 06:09, 14 January 2007 (UTC) Cha hah? okay lav che bats its not going to work he is not reliable you can barely find any information on him it has to be reliable. Nareklm 06:15, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Naye chhasgazam inch asar. Heteh ozoom es luv ban aness, ed banner vor asam hed deer. Ararat arev 06:18, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Put one of them back atleast. Either put the Urartu warriors picture back there where it belongs with the info, or put the Mitanni link inthe history article Ararat arev 06:19, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

We have Haik first, than Armens, than Hayasa, then Mitanni, then Nairi, finally "Urartu" , at the very end. Add in that picture already man. Ararat arev 06:21, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Jkelly approved that image. Skhal gorz es anoom. Jkelly is in charge of the copyrights. He approved and put that link. Put it back how it was. Ararat arev 06:40, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Put the copyright back how "Jkelly" put it. Ararat arev 06:42, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Do you understand what Im saying or not? Check the edit history of that picture. Jkelly put the copyright permissions "Ok"d it. Hasganoom es teh che? Ararat arev 06:46, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Look here: Revision as of 20:34, 4 December 2006 (edit) (undo) Jkelly (Talk | contribs) (rm spurious copyright notice, add correct copyright template (one down)) Newer edit → Line 1: 	Line 1: - 	Gevork Nazaryan armenianhighland.com copyright © 1997-2006 	+ 	==Summary== This image is from Martiros S. Kavoukjian's The Genesis of Armenian People, Montreal, 1982. It is the royal seal (winged eight-pointed sun disk flanked by two lions and two eagles) of the King of Mitanni Sauššatar (c. 1440-1410BC) (p. 97). Originally from G. Contenau's 19th century text La Civilisation des Hittites et des Hurrites du Mitanni Paris. p. 62. Ararat arev 06:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Looks like you dont understand. Look in the edit history will you? Look in the Mitanni seal edit history. Ararat arev 06:54, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek Im going to let them know your vandalizing. This time you're going to be banned. You are removing something that is approved by the admins. The copyright editors here. Ararat arev 06:56, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek that is not copyvio that is approved by the people in charge of copyright info. User:Jkelly approved it and he himself put that info. You trying to get yourself in trouble. ok. Ararat arev 06:59, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek, you're repeating the same mistakes again when they are approved by Jkelly again. The same person that handles copyright images. Ararat arev 07:10, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek, Im going to let Khoikhoi and those other admins know what you're doing. Those images are approved by the handlers of copyright User:Jkelly, Narek is constantly removing approved images from those who approved and handle copyrights like User:Jkelly who approved the Mitanni seal image. He is constantly putting copyvio's and in edit history descriptions putting copyvio's when they are approved. Ararat arev 07:24, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Im going to let these admins know you're personally attacking me and providing wrong responses on these images. Ararat arev 07:25, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


 * LOL and where did i personally attacked you? Nareklm 07:26, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek, put the Mitanni seal image back where it was. Ararat arev 07:28, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

You're personally attacking my work here and my page. Youre repeating the same mistakes as before. Put the image back in Mitanni page man. Ararat arev 07:29, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * That is not personally attacking you and i will report you for the insults you made on me saying stupid etc in Armenian if you continue with your nonsense and i am not going to put it back up. Nareklm 07:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Stenz banner me ara man. Asam Urartuee ngarn deer hed. Garogh es ed aness teh che? Ararat arev 07:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

No Im not going to say anything bad to you Narek. Its when you do stuff like this, removing info that is approved. etc Ararat arev 07:33, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek, you are a good guy man. I dont say anything bad to you. You are doing a good job being 16. Many 16 year olds and guys your age are not even close to what you're doing. Ararat arev 07:35, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek, shat angem ner asel em luv es anoom. Luv es anoom vor hyeodzbudmooton es sovoroom, yev asar ozoom es budmaban leeness. Yev ozoom es hyeaged leeness. Orakh em vor ed anoom es. Jshdeedz em asoom Narek, havada. Hima ed ngarnern hed deer ok? Yes chem garogh emanoom es ed Ararat arev 07:37, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek, kndroom em ed ngarnern hed deer. Ararat arev 07:39, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Vordegh es? ed ngarn deer hed inchbes vor gar Ararat arev 07:42, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Look how dead the site looks man, put that Mitanni seal back. Ararat arev 07:50, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind the next time you revert at least 3 times you will be blocked for not one day but a whole week it gets extended. Nareklm 08:24, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek, Dbachmann or Thanasimmii have yet to comment yes or no on the new academic reference I found from Hovick Nersessian. Hovick Nersessian who is in the New York Academy of Sciences. He mentions Mitanni being an Armenian kingdom also. Besides Artak Movsisyan and Martiros Kavoukjian. Also Western Authors like M. Chain and Jaquete Hawks mention is also with the links to Hurrian. Ararat arev 20:12, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Jacquetta Hawkes, "The First Great Civilizations," London, 1967

"Yet the Hurrians did not disappear from history. Away to the North in their Armenian homeland, they entrenched themselves and build up the kingdom of Urartu."

M. Chahin, "The Kingdom of Armenia," London, 2001

"The new kingdom of Urartu, which proved to be the stronghold of the Hurrian race." Ararat arev 20:15, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter there not reliable they don't work with wikipedia go store your information somewhere else because everyones going to revert it and next time you add the stuff im reporting you for disruptive edit wars because you do the same things. Nareklm 20:16, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Mitanni was a Hurrian kingdom. Ararat arev 20:16, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

No they dont revert it if we discuss. Like in the Haik page Eupator said to cite the sources. We need to discuss in Talk pages as they said first. Ararat arev 20:19, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

If you revert something they have approved then that is disruptive edit war. Ararat arev 20:21, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

They have yet to say anything on New York Academy of Sciences academic references. Ararat arev 20:22, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

If they have not reverted things that I put, and you came and removed them. That is you removing them, they didnt say its wrong you see. They allowed those things to stay, but you reverted them. Ararat arev 20:24, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Do you understand now? Go look in the Talk:Haik and Talk:Template:History of Armenia, we discuss and agree and then we will put whatever we can. Ararat arev 20:30, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Thats why you have to discuss first! you got all the articles locked because of you all you care is about adding your information therefore if you do not discuss im reporting you immediately. Nareklm 20:40, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Im going to discuss in fact with all of these people, to see what your modivation is with me. If you just like to remove anything I put when it is even agreed from them. Like the Mitanni seal image which you removed with ignorance. I will make sure to let all of them know about it first, and if you still remove when all have agreed, you are the disrupter then. Ararat arev 20:44, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Dont you dare remove something when it is agreed even by none Armenians. Ararat arev 20:45, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Lol your funny, you got all the articles locked and no one agrees with you. Nareklm 20:46, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah thats cause I was impatient and didn't discuss and take time. I want to correct our history as soon as we can Ararat arev 20:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah you get the articles locked now you want to discuss? now everyones going to ignore you most people, because its ridiculous and you keep on asking me to put on the urartu picture and im not, go discuss it because the next time you will be blocked way longer and if you continue forever. Nareklm 20:50, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Listen the stuff I put is not wrong, its just I need to know there is a method of doing this. Ararat arev 20:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Put the Mitanni seal back since those other even none Armenian people didnt remove it. That means it was approved or else the guy would've removed it a long time ago, as he does with other things. Ararat arev 20:52, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

You messed up there man. You got me upset man. Ararat arev 20:53, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek, do you understand? That is a Mitanni seal from Mitanni, even if Mitanni is not Armenian, that is still a Mitanni seal. So you dont have a reason for removing it. You removed it. Its a Mitanni seal not Armenian. I'll even rename the file. Ararat arev 20:55, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek you know why they left the Mitanni seal? Because its a "Mitanni seal" image. They consider it none Armenian, but a Mitanni seal image put in the Mitanni page. So while you're add it, put it back cause its a Mitanni related image. Nothing Im saying here is about Armenian, its a Mitanni related image man. Ararat arev 20:57, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I would rename the file to Mitanni-seal.jpg, but I dont want to remove the edit history of the copyright approver. Ararat arev 21:00, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek, you said you wanted to "search" and "research" our history right? You are just 16, you have a lot of time yet to find more of the true history. So dont just quickly judge now on the more ancient history of Armenia. So go find out and I hope you make that book about Mitanni :) Ararat arev 21:02, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

But when you remove things that are approved and they didnt remove, that doesnt show you are even interested in finding out and writing a book. Thats not how to start off first of all by searching and understanding. You dont just remove something they left there. Ararat arev 21:04, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek you're not responding ok. I said Im going to let all of them know you removed something that is related to Mitanni, the "Mitanni" seal. I will also put in the Talk page of Mitanni and wherever else I can to make sure to let them know. Ararat arev 21:10, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Im going to let them know you put copyvio when it was already approved by the handlers of copyright images. You put that reason in the edit history and requested for deletion. Now you going to make this hard on yourself? Or you just going to put it back how it Mitanni seal, Mitanni "related" image. Ararat arev 21:12, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Im going to make sure you get in trouble. I have very good reasons for this. Ararat arev 21:14, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Get ready to put it back, cause Im about to let them knmow that "Nareklm edits images and pages that are approved by admins and handlers of copyright User:Jkelly and other users which approved the Mitanni seal. He purposely removes with modivations that are against me personally for his needs. This is vandalism, please let Nareklm if he repeats these acts he will be banned. Ararat arev 21:16, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

My time is about up, so Im getting ready to let them know your deeds here. Your modivations and how you put false info when you dont check the edit history of things approved. Ararat arev 21:18, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah go ahead relax. Sit back and relax huh? The guy already gave you a warning I saw his Talk page. Ararat arev 21:22, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek brother, this is not how we help our history by removing things that are approved and left to stay. You are doing the opposite by removing them. Ararat arev 21:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Im going to let them know while I was banned and couldnt respond, Narekl was vandalizing and removing info that was approved by handlers of copyright User:Jkelly and putting edit descriptions to remove approved images, putting copyvio. Also, by creating that reason to remove the image that is "related" to the page in order to justify his reasons. Ararat arev 21:29, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Im getting ready to let them know, Im tellng you again, if you dont put it back yourself, you are making things worse for yourself. Cause I have really good reasons to let them know about this. Ararat arev 21:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

If you havent understood what this all means at this point, This is not the same as when Clevender removed the Urartu warriors image. This is a different reason. Ararat arev 21:38, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek you think Im not serious about this, Im going to let them know That Nareklm, order to justify his reasons for removing the image you placed a huge "copyvio" in the image info, to remove the Mitanni "related" seal image which was approved by admins like User:Jkelly and User:Thanatosimii. Ararat arev 21:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I got about 20 more minutes and I will let them know if you dont correct your mistake here. Ararat arev 21:52, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Narek I wont let admins know about your mistakes if you just correct it now. So go ahead and correct it, tell the reason that you misunderstood and put it back. Ararat arev 22:16, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

3RR
Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you.  Nish kid 64  23:34, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Edit wars are considered harmful
Even if your content is justified, it's better to discuss changes on the talk page (or let other members of the community handle it). I've had to block you for 24 hours for your 3RR violation on Proto-Armenian language. The same goes for the Haik article—regardless of whether you're right or not, it's important to get a consensus first to add your info rather than by edit warring. You might consider following the one-revert rule in the future. (at least make sure that you don't get bitten by the 3RR) Regards, Khoikhoi 22:40, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Reply
I don't really know enough about copyright issues to say who is right here. Can you please show me what Jkelly said? As for Haik, is there a consensus on the talk page now? If I unprotect, will the edit war start-up again?

BTW, regarding this: Armenian is not some sort of secret code. Please do not call other users "stupid", as it violates Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Thank you, Khoikhoi 23:31, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

User:Jkelly and just now User:Dbachmann approved the Mitanni seal image. These are admins who approved the image and if you check in the Mitanni history you see what kind of attempts this 16 year old was doing trying to remove it. We are actually discussing in the Talk:Mitanni page. I wont call him stupid anymore. He also shouts out at me,which other users have reported as personal attack. About the Haik page User:Eupator said he will add the info. So please unprotect it. Thank you. Ararat arev 23:34, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks. Khoikhoi 00:31, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

RE:Can you unprotect Haik page now? (we agreed)
It was unprotected by User:Khoikhoi. I'm glad that you were able to come to a solution to end the edit war. Good luck! -Royalguard11 (Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 03:21, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Read What is a featured article?
This is the criterion by which we judge good and bad. Not Urartu, not the hundreds of articles like it, only the goals which the project has set. Further, read Images. "Looking good" is not our goal, pertinant images in relevant places to accentuate an encyclopedia is our goal. Thanatosimii 20:34, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Do not blank your talk page in such a manner. Thanatosimii 20:58, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Administrators have no more say under heaven than any other user in what an article says. Stop appealing to them, you're going to get them very angry. Thanatosimii 21:25, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Archiving
I noticed you stated you were archiving some material from your talk page. However you don't appear to have linked to these archives anywhere. Also, I question why you've chosen to selectively archive a case when you were broke a rule and were blocked accordingly. Many people, including me feel it is inappropriate to selectively archive or remove appropriate warnings and block notifications because it semi hides your history. While there is no current explicit policy against this, and some people do feel your allowed to remove whatever you want provided you don't change the meaning of comments I ask you to consider whether you feel it is appropriate and whether you should at least provide a link to anything that your archiving. If you're not sure how to do this, I can try and help. Should you disagree with me, that is your right I guess and there is nothing I can or will do about it, but I just thought I'd let you know how I feel.

Nil Einne 14:47, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

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Archiving
I noticed you stated you were archiving some material from your talk page. However you don't appear to have linked to these archives anywhere. Also, I question why you've chosen to selectively archive a case when you were broke a rule and were blocked accordingly. Many people, including me feel it is inappropriate to selectively archive or remove appropriate warnings and block notifications because it semi hides your history. While there is no current explicit policy against this, and some people do feel your allowed to remove whatever you want provided you don't change the meaning of comments I ask you to consider whether you feel it is appropriate and whether you should at least provide a link to anything that your archiving. If you're not sure how to do this, I can try and help. Should you disagree with me, that is your right I guess and there is nothing I can or will do about it, but I just thought I'd let you know how I feel.

Nil Einne 14:47, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

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