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So this is the correct way?? I am testing it just to be sure. ArborChamp (talk) 14:52, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Felischa Marye (May 9)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Robert McClenon were:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


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Robert McClenon (talk) 16:38, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Felischa Marye (May 23)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Robert McClenon were:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


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Robert McClenon (talk) 03:32, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Robert, I hope you are enjoying your Memorial Day weekend. I appreciate you taking the time to review my draft, but I believe that Ms. Marye does fit the general notability guidelines. She is also cited on Wikipedia as the writer and creator of the Bigger Series although I am aware that Wikipedia cannot be used as a source, which it is not. Please see here---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigger_(TV_series.)

There are also others who are listed on the same show that have less information and credits but they were deemed notable under the general notability guidelines. See for example; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Asher. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Patrick_Alvarez

In your response, you stated that the this submission's references do not fit qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in publishedaccording to Wikipedia guidelines if a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list.

But according to Wikipedia's GNG notability guidelines, it states: "Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material.

Please see the below links that are placed in my article that coincide with Wikipedia's GNG guidelines. https://www.bet.com/shows/upfront/news/2018/04/bet-new-and-returning-shows-announcement-2018-upfronts.html https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/will-packers-bet-streaming-comedy-sets-cast-gets-new-title-1227900 https://bossip.com/1781157/bet-premieres-bigger-at-bronzelens-film-festival/ https://deadline.com/2020/02/bigger-renewed-will-packers-bet-comedy-gets-season-2-pickup-1202862349/ https://www.thewrap.com/will-packer-bigger-cast-bet-plus-tanisha-long-angell-conwell/

I would like for the above links and the links below to also be used to refute your opinion that the draft did not have significant independent sources. This is what you referenced in your refusal of the draft---> independent'' of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people)

You also mentioned reliable,

Which according to Wikipedia "Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it. For example, advertising, press releases, autobiographies, and the subject's website are not considered independent.[

Please see the below links that were placed in the article that I believe give significant evidence that the article should be accepted by GNG standards on the bases that they are not advertisements, press releases, autobiographies, and or from the subject's website. http://www.jagurltv.com/angell-conwell-talks-about-her-role-on-bigger/https://www.thewrap.com/will-packer-bigger-cast-bet-plus-tanisha-long-angell-conwell/https://shadowandact.com/5-reasons-to-watch-bigger-on-bet-review https://www.bet.com/shows/upfront/content/articles/bigger-season-2.html https://deadline.com/2019/07/bet-networks-bigger-rasheda-crockett-chase-anthony-tristen-winger-tanisha-long-angell-conwell-will-packer-1202656754/ https://www.ajc.com/blog/radiotvtalk/bet-streaming-service-launches-with-will-packer-raunchy-hilarious-bigger/K5bti4ouo0WK64caG8DJhO/

Lastly you state that it does not appear that the subject satisfies either notability guidelines for creative professions or general notability guidelines. The common theme in the notability guidelines is that there must be verifiable, objective evidence that the subject has received significant attention from independent sources to support a claim of notability.

According to Wikipedia notability guidlines> The common theme in the notability guidelines is that there must be verifiable, objective evidence that the subject has received significant attention from independent sources to support a claim of notability. No subject is automatically or inherently notable merely because it exists: the evidence must show the topic has gained significant independent coverage or recognition, and that this was not a mere short-term interest, nor a result of promotional activity or indiscriminate publicity, nor is the topic unsuitable for any other reason. Sources of evidence include recognized peer-reviewed publications, credible and authoritative books, reputable media sources, and other reliable sources generally.

I believe that this article (TOPIC), has gained significant independent coverage or recognition and that this (IS) not a mere short-term interest, nor a result of promotional activity or indiscriminate publicity, nor is the topic unsuitable for any other reason.

My Sources of evidence (MENTIONED AND PROVIDED LINKS) include recognized peer-reviewed publications, credible and authoritative books, reputable media sources, and other reliable sources generally.

Here is a list of some (NOT ALL) of the provided links in my article that supports my above claim.

https://www.ajc.com/blog/radiotvtalk/bet-streaming-service-launches-with-will-packer-raunchy-hilarious-bigger/K5bti4ouo0WK64caG8DJhO/ https://www.bet.com/shows/upfront/news/2018/04/bet-new-and-returning-shows-announcement-2018-upfronts.html https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/will-packers-bet-streaming-comedy-sets-cast-gets-new-title-1227900 https://bossip.com/1781157/bet-premieres-bigger-at-bronzelens-film-festival/ https://deadline.com/2020/02/bigger-renewed-will-packers-bet-comedy-gets-season-2-pickup-1202862349/ https://www.thewrap.com/will-packer-bigger-cast-bet-plus-tanisha-long-angell-conwell/http://www.jagurltv.com/angell-conwell-talks-about-her-role-on-bigger/https://www.thewrap.com/will-packer-bigger-cast-bet-plus-tanisha-long-angell-conwell/https://shadowandact.com/5-reasons-to-watch-bigger-on-bet-review https://www.bet.com/shows/upfront/content/articles/bigger-season-2.html https://deadline.com/2019/07/bet-networks-bigger-rasheda-crockett-chase-anthony-tristen-winger-tanisha-long-angell-conwell-will-packer-1202656754/ https://www.ajc.com/blog/radiotvtalk/bet-streaming-service-launches-with-will-packer-raunchy-hilarious-bigger/K5bti4ouo0WK64caG8DJhO/https://meaww.com/bigger-bet-creator-felischa-marye-13-reasons-why-character-development-criticism-impacthttps://www.essence.com/love/relationships/bet-comedy-bigger-creator-felischa-marye-explains-why-black-women-friendships-important-on-tv/https://meaww.com/bigger-bet-creator-felischa-marye-13-reasons-why-character-development-criticism-impact ArborChamp (talk) 17:56, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * User:ArborChamp - In my message declining the draft, I said that an explanation of how the draft meets notability guidelines should be on the talk page of the draft, which is where a future reviewer will see the explanation. I have copied your statement from your talk page to the draft talk page.  Robert McClenon (talk) 18:03, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Robert. My apologies that was an oversight on my part. Have a great day! ArborChamp (talk) 14:18, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Felischa Marye (June 27)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Timtrent was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


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Fiddle  Faddle  09:08, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, User:ArborChamp/Felischa Marye


Hello, ArborChamp. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Felischa Marye".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 18:19, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Rolling Out Magazine
Hello, ArborChamp. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Rolling Out Magazine, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 00:02, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Rolling Out Magazine


Hello, ArborChamp. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Rolling Out Magazine".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 23:49, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Rolling Out Magazine (July 6)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Garsh2 were:

The comment the reviewer left was:

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Garsh (talk) 03:23, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Munson Steed (July 6)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by SafariScribe were:

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Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 07:41, 6 July 2024 (UTC)