User talk:Arena Holdings staff

March 2022
Hello Arena Holdings staff. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Business Day (South Africa), gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Arena Holdings staff. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Alpha Piscis Austrini (talk) 07:26, 14 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi
 * I work for the company which owns Business Day. The edits made were to include a history of the publication, the previous editors and ownership changes. This does not fall under having an undisclosed financial stake. The previous Wiki entry was short and did not include the history of the page that really is basic information. I therefore believe the changes should be published and reflect a more comprehensive history of the newspaper. Arena Holdings staff (talk) 07:42, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Regardless, this still constitutes a conflict of interest per WP:COI, which is strongly discouraged. Also as per WP:COI:
 * "Editors with a COI, including paid editors, are expected to disclose it whenever they seek to change an affected article's content. Anyone editing for pay must disclose who is paying them, who the client is, and any other relevant affiliation; this is a requirement of the Wikimedia Foundation. COI editors are strongly discouraged from editing affected articles directly, and can propose changes on article talk pages instead. However, our policy on matters relating to living people allows very obvious errors to be fixed quickly, including by the subject." Alpha Piscis Austrini (talk) 08:45, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * So changing basic information of an article which relates to the information one would expect to see on a Wiki page so that it is more comprehensive and not one paragraph has to be disclosed as to who is paying them? This is not a living person, this is a newspaper. I don't really think that it's a conflict of interest to amend information which is fact, not opinion. Either way, if that is the decision, then what need to be done so it can be published and a more detailed and lengthy version can be published. Arena Holdings staff (talk) 08:58, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, there has been no response to this. How is it possible that we can't make factual changes to our very own publication? Arena Holdings staff (talk) 08:37, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I've been busy so I haven't been able to get back to you until now.
 * Well first of all, you're going to have to create another account or request a username change, because your current one is against Wikipedia's username policy as per WP:ORGNAME. Second of all, since your edit summary implies financial reasoning behind the changes, go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Paid-contribution_disclosure#How_to_disclose to find out how. It doesn't matter if it's a living person or not. Anything can be a conflict of interest. Alpha Piscis Austrini (talk) 11:59, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Even if it is not paid, which it might not be, apologies if I assumed wrong at first, but even if it is not paid, then regardless you should still state your employer and other required information per WP:DISCLOSE. Alpha Piscis Austrini (talk) 12:01, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, my company owns this newspaper and the changes are merely reflective of the history of the newspaper, editors and ownership changes. These are basics included in a Wiki page and do not represent a paid change as this note states. Arena Holdings staff (talk) 08:11, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Your username
Welcome to Wikipedia. I saw that you edited or created Arena Holdings staff, and I noticed that your username, "Arena Holdings staff", may not comply with our username policy. Please note that you may not use a username that represents the name of a company, group, organization, product, service, or website. Examples of usernames that are not allowed include "XYZ Company", "MyWidgetsUSA.com", and "Foobar Museum of Art". However, you are permitted to use a username that contains such a name if it identifies you individually (not your role), such as "Sara Smith at XYZ Company", "Mark at WidgetsUSA", or "FoobarFan87", but not "SEO Manager at XYZ Company".

Please also note that Wikipedia does not allow accounts to be shared by multiple people and that you may not advocate for or promote any company, group, organization, product, service, or website, regardless of your username. Please also read our paid editing policy and our conflict of interest guideline. If you are a single individual and are willing to contribute to Wikipedia in an unbiased manner, please request a change of username by completing the form at Special:GlobalRenameRequest, choosing a username that complies with our username policy. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. Thank you. Escape Orbit (Talk) 12:39, 25 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi
 * I am the managing editor at Arena Holdings and am updating the pages with basic information which relates to the titles owned by the company. Is my own name visible then to everyone who has access to this page? Arena Holdings staff (talk) 12:46, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. You have a conflict of interest. And your username is a WP:CORPNAME. -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 13:10, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. For attribution purposes, the user names of all editors of this encyclopedia appear in the edit summary of the edit.  -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 13:12, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

April 2022
Welcome to Wikipedia. Because we have a policy against usernames which give the impression that the account represents a group, club, organization, company, or website – I have blocked this account. Please take a moment to either create a new account, or request a change of username of your current account here. The new username must represent only yourself as an individual and comply with Wikipedia's username policy. You should also read our conflict of interest guideline and be aware that promotional editing is not acceptable regardless of the username you choose. Additionally, if your contributions to Wikipedia form all or part of work for which you are, or expect to be, paid, you must disclose who is paying you to edit. Please also note that you are permitted to use a username that contains the name of a company or organization if it identifies you individually, such as "Sara Smith at XYZ Company", "Mark at WidgetsUSA", or "FoobarFan87". If your username does not represent a group, organization or website, you may appeal this username block by adding the text at the bottom of your talk page. You may simply create a new account, but you may prefer to change your username to one that complies with our username policy, so that your past contributions are associated with your new username. If you would prefer to change your username, you may appeal this username block by adding the text   at the bottom of your talk page. Please note that you may only request a name that is not already in use, so please check here for a listing of already taken names. Thank you. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 13:11, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Sourcing
"All content must be cited from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking." The websites of subjects of encyclopedia articles do not meet this requirement. Thanks. -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 13:19, 25 April 2022 (UTC)