User talk:Arielschvarcz

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Reversion
As you can see, your changes at Cognitive remediation therapy have been reverted. Per WP:BRD, you'll now have to discuss the changes you want to make. In this case, the issue is adherence to our source requirements for medical topics. Hopefully other editors will be able to pitch in to provide a third opinion. Let me know if you have any questions. Chris Troutman ( talk ) 03:39, 30 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Oops, I think I made a mistake. I reverted back to my version so that I can receive a grade in the class; without any evidence of my work, I'm kinda screwed. What do I do now?? Arielschvarcz (talk) 03:41, 30 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Chris, can you talk more about the reference issue? According to my classmates, they all felt as I did that any journal article is okay, and what they've been posting seems to match that. Thanks! Arielschvarcz (talk) 03:48, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
 * When I spoke to your class I discussed sourcing only generally as I assumed most of what you'd be writing would be esoteric psychology stuff. Articles that discuss anything the general public might read as medical advice has to comply to WP:MEDRS. That's the issue you need to address. This is why I SPECIFICALLY said not to work in a sandbox and then paste in a bunch of text because this is what happens. Had you been making incremental changes MEDRS would have been brought up weeks ago.
 * All changes you've made were saved in the history tab. can take a look at  to see what your work looked like. Nothing is lost.  Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 04:14, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Chris, Thanks for replying. In any case, can you speak more about what qualifies as medical advice? Arielschvarcz (talk) 04:18, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Oh, also, how do I add in the PMID to references as the person suggested? I followed the reference code as per your slides and the handouts we received. Arielschvarcz (talk) 04:24, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
 * It's in the guideline: "it is vital that the biomedical information in all types of articles be based on reliable, third-party, published secondary sources and accurately reflect current medical knowledge". It's anything across the board. When previous psychology classes have edited it's been about concepts like disconfirmed expectancy or biographical subjects like Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi. In your case, you're discussing a therapy and readers of Wikipedia might be making decisions before seeing a doctor based on what you write. We have evidence that doctors themselves may be looking at your article to figure out how to do their job.
 * You really need to read MEDRS top to bottom. I didn't revert you initially because my degree is in history and the sources you added are scholarly; it all looked fine to me. Now you'll have to interact with the Wikipedia community. I'm sure you'd've preferred this happened back in October, as would I.
 * Cite journal has a parameter for PMID. In the coding, add |pmid= with the id following the equal sign. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 04:36, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Chris! I'll look more closely at both those sources - I did initially review MEDRS but I didn't consider this to be a "biomedical" issue. It's basically just games on a computer that a person cannot engage in on their own, but I guess since it was flagged as being under the medical realm it's unavoidable.Arielschvarcz (talk) 04:42, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Chris, sorry to bother you again, but it seems like every change I attempt to make is reverted by the editor, even when those changes were requested by them; it seems like a very strong move to constantly be making for little things. Other than editing more in-line, is there anything you can suggest to help me approach this better? I would hate for my wikipedia-editing ignorance to be causing anyone more work or frustration for anyone, myself included.

Article guidelines
Hi. A Wikipedia editor, SandyGeorgia, has very helpfully offered some useful guidelines for editing, which are in response to editing by students in your class. All of these may not apply specifically to articles that you have edited, but many of them are likely to be very helpful tools for improving your contributions. Please look over these at Education_Program_talk:University_of_California,_Los_Angeles_(UCLA)/Psychology_220A_(Fall,_2014). Thanks. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:58, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Arielschvarcz/sandbox
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