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Your submission at Articles for creation: Portugalician languages (February 17)
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Encoded Talk to me! 16:38, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Portugalician languages (April 2)
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Ca talk to me!  14:20, 2 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much for read it, but I think that you shall reconsider your decision. Actually, the proposal for a "portugalician group" isn't discussed at the same magnitud that other proposals, a fact that looks unquestionable if we search for it in another language that isn't portuguese. Therefore, the proposal, as the language in general, isn't very discussed in Brazil, in Portugal, in Angola and others because these countries don't have a developed history of Linguistic studies, notably the recent decolonized countries. All of they are underdeveloped and dependent country. Portugal is a bit better, but if we compare it to other european countries we'll say that the Portuguese aren't too different to Romania, Bulgaria and the less developed european countries. The universities in these countries, as their societies in general, aren't adequately structured, they have no significative theory, scheme, model or anything that we can compare to the other countries' scientific production, that is specially true to the Human Sciences. In Brazil, the Theory of the Dependency has a good global projection, but I can't think in nothing more. If we consider that in Brazil exist only two universities that offer Linguistics graduation (the UNICAMP and USP) and the discipline just entered here at the 1960s/1970s, we can conclude that is very very very hard to exist a "very discussed proposal involving the Portuguese language". Linguistics is in the periphery of the Human Sciences, that is the periphery of the Sciences, that is in the periphery of the less developed countries, unfortunately. I recognize that my article can be better and that I avoided it considerably. Therefore, I beg your reconsideration about it, if you exclude a proposal that involves the portuguese language that came from a Latin American country, a chance to proof to the people that here exist discussion, that here exist intelligent life, will disappear. I recognize that for US, France, Japan, UK, Russia, China, Germany and some other this has no importance, but for us it has. Probably, I can miss, you don't find much material about this discussion because it practically only exists in portuguese language, a language that you don't know. I can miss, I'm not underevaluating you. But if you give me a chance more, and some time, I can proof you that the portugalician group isn't a "near to no-discussed thing". In Galicia exists a movement that claims that Portuguese and Galego are the same language. In Portugal exist a incorrect narrative that the language is directly derived from Latin and birth near to the centre of the country. In Brazil has a very discussed idea that we don't speak Portuguese, but "Brazilian". In Cabo Verde and Guinea Bisau has a discussion of where their creole languages birth. All of their questions involve a opinion about if the languages are defined by the people's autodetermination or structural elements, a discussion that is very active in China and the former Yugoslavia members. When we see a third-world linguist proposing a point of view that considers the people's point of view of their languages and when it is centered on the portuguese-related countries, considering that in no one of these countries has a strong Linguistics study tradition, we can give him some attention, do you agree with it? I'm not using a identitary argumentation, I'm claiming you that consider the particularities of the third world and rethink if our ideas "aren't sufficiently notable to figure on Wikipedia". Again, consider that you haven't find notable material because you don't speak Portuguese and the proposal have no more than 15 years that was published in a definitely no Linguistic-simpatizant country of the Third World in a language that isn't near of the English, French or Spanish status. Well, it's all, thank you so much for your considerations and think a bit about the mine. Sorry for my peculiar English and for the condition of avoidment that I gave to the draft. Sorry too for the virtually "ungentle air" that some sentences can transmit. Have a nice day and a nice work. Cesse tudo o que a musa antiga canta / Porque outro valor mais alto se alevanta! Morte à tradição gramatical e viva à Ciência da língua. AriranhaRB (talk) 19:47, 14 July 2024 (UTC)