User talk:ArmadilloFromHell/Archive 06/Month Dec

Continues from ../../Archive 06/Month Nov

re Alec - U.K.
I'm confused following your posting to the WP:AN/I re User:Alec - U.K.. Myself, MRSC and Regan 123 all then added comments, but as far as I can tell, no admin commented on this and instead its been time-guillotined and transferred to archive see 147 here - So now what is to be done ? David Ruben Talk 01:50, 19 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I just noticed that same a hour ago, it's very frustrating. On the other hand, since that was posted, neither account has been any posts. I suggest we keep an eye open for any changes by him, or the use of another account or IP address and report immediately on Administrator intervention against vandalism - I still do not know if it a sophisticated vandal playing games, or someone who had some severe comprehension difficulty. -- Armadillo From Hell 01:57, 19 November 2006 (UTC)


 * He's back. See . Regan123 19:49, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I think we may have an issue with this edit. Do you think it is enough to list a complaint? Regan123 20:33, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Reported at Administrator intervention against vandalism -- Armadillo From Hell 22:21, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for all your help. Now back to adding things! Regan123 23:39, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


 * So what happened to the AI/V ? (that page does not seem to have any archive once an admin clears items from the list). Alec is back switching "asthma" to the redirected term of "asthma attack" and now querying whether diabetes is a disease or not on multiple pages. Also unenecyclopaedia "What asthma is not" section added to asthma. I'm coming to conclusion whilst has knowledge on the topics, is just trolling and being disruptive. I've posted a fresh item to WP:AN/I, see WP:AN/I David Ruben Talk 21:24, 22 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree, for a while I had some pity on him, as a possibly disabled person who was trying to do his best. I have now concluded that it's a big game to see what he can get away with. I noticed within a few minutes that he was back, and have reverted a few obviously bad edits. -- Armadillo From Hell  00:22, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Cancelled projects
Hey, buddy, I hope you have "thick skin" because I think you were a quarter-hour too early on your speedy deletion tag. I wasn't finished typing everything in when you stopped by.

Also, what do you think of moving it to Project cancellation? --Uncle Ed 15:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


 * In this case, I agree, but in fact I removed the speedy tag about 30 seconds before you posted your message. The whole point of speedy tags is speedy, I generally post speedy tags within less than a minute of creation, it's not possible to tag articles for maybe delete and then come back 15 minutes later to see of they got better. Rule #1, is create your article in a userpage sandbox, and don't post until it's ready for primetime. -- Armadillo From Hell 15:45, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the tag removal, and regarding at least 75% of projects are cancelled LOL I intend to cite Steve McConnell's book which reports research statistics supporting a 50 to 55% figure. But maybe his sources were counting projects which actually got started. I'm in the stages of proposing a project right now. If they change their mind before I start work, was it "cancelled"? ;-) --Uncle Ed 15:43, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm counting projects that I actually worked on and got paid for. e.g.


 * a six month project where the non-tech guy who provided me with support left the week the project was finished, and no one ever installed my system into production, and the owner of the company (who whined evry time I invoiced him)) a year later was not aware that he paid me for nothing.
 * an IBM software development project where 20 people worked for nine months, and the project was cancelled, because another IBM lab had been working on exactly the same project
 * a three month employee resource application that solved problems the branch had been having for two years, cancelled because the main office decide they could do it better (and of course they did not)
 * an application to automate and convert text documents to web pages, cancelled because the manager was technically dense and could not understand that it could be automated,a dn save tens of thousands of dollars, and decided to do the whole thing manually. etc. etc. -- Armadillo From Hell 15:53, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

You could be a co-author of Project cancellation, then. Anyway, when I do my next round of edits I'll let you know; your feedback will be valuable. ^_^ --Uncle Ed 18:51, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

The Bosco School Vandal
dude, do u have a life? i mean come on or is wikipedia your life? do you sit at your computer anxiously awaiting someone to post something bad on wikipedia just so you can delete it? just read the don bosco prep article i was putting up, its funny, its just a joke, i go to bosco and i think its funny —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bosco1209 (talk • contribs)


 * Yes, actaully I have a very full and productive life. Now let me ask you, why would you take the trouble to create an account just to vandal a school page with a flag representing one of the most evil creations the world has know. Do you not have a life? Do you not have any goals? Is life so thin and bitter for you, that this is how you spend your evenings? -- Armadillo From Hell 02:23, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Breasts
Hello, Excuse me but I am trying to accomplish something that doesnt fall under the degree of vandalism, and I believe you would appreaciate it when I do complete the transfer of data that i am trying to accomplish without being interrupted by warning spammers.

The Invalid image was obviously not placed on purpose, rather than continuing to threaten me, try being resourceful and helping. Thank YOU!... —Preceding unsigned comment added by THEBLITZ1 (talk • contribs)


 * Sorry, but when your changes have been reverted several times, and you have been told not to change the picture wihtout reaching consensuse, and you post a link to a non-permitted image, it's vandalism. Stop practising on the article and use the sandbox instead. If you do it again, I'll ask for a block on your editing. (and please learn to sign your messages) -- Armadillo From Hell 06:42, 22 November 2006 (UTC)-- Armadillo From Hell  06:42, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

It looks like the images added by User:THEBLITZ1 have already been deleted, but as a heterosexual male I can confirm that they were lovely -- and completely inappropriate as the lead for that article. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs)  06:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)


 * So I gather. Voyeur that I am, I tried to look at the image, but when I found it was gone, I reverted the changes. And I just reverted another image by him in another article, that was very nice, but also completely inappropriate. -- Armadillo From Hell 06:49, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Were there multiple images? I only saw one, a lovely young lady drenched in water; took about 0.5 seconds to decide to revert it. I couldn't tell if he uploaded any other images because all of his other links were to nonexistent files. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs)  06:54, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No, it was not there and not a flesh picture - but in another article and it very looked wrong - I checked the history and it and it had already been reverted once - so I reverted again there. Looks like a stolen image anyway, so I'm going to have to trace it's real source. -- Armadillo From Hell  07:13, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Excuse me I had only 1 image, as i listed. And If a picture of Breasts, are inappropraite under the category labeled "breasts", then I implore you keep up the great work! —Preceding unsigned comment added by THEBLITZ1 (talk • contribs)


 * Please learn to sign your posts (and stop uploading unlicensed images) -- Armadillo From Hell  07:35, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

How do you search the Internet for an image?
"Image:Architect148.jpg is directly copied from http://abcwallpaper.free.fr/800archit.htm" -- how did you find it? -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs)  07:36, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Just searched for the name in Google Images, normally it's not so easy. I've caught image violations before but it usually required a lot more work, and I don't have the patience. It's now listed in Possibly unfree images under November 22. I have no tolerance for copyright violation - so I think I will be adding a couple more tomorrow. -- Armadillo From Hell 07:43, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

have fun! lol silly boy...

and remember to review or search copywright infringement because that image could be termed "freeware" since it has no listed owner and is available on the site for external use as well as the word free being listed in the link itself. Have a great time! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by THEBLITZ1 (talk • contribs).

D'oh! I thought maybe you had some way to search images.google.com for an actual image. Didn't occur to me that he hadn't even renamed the file. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs)  07:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

THEBLITZ1
Already blocked for 24 hours: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:THEBLITZ1.


 * Since I suspect that a large number of the images uploaded are bogus labelled, I think it should be permeanent. He's gaming the system. -- Armadillo From Hell 18:47, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

You don't buy the "I, the creator of this work" licensing note for Image:Logo44.gif? :-) It's possible that Hanlon's razor applies here, but he's uploaded a lot of images and ignored multiple copyright warnings, so yeah, you gotta wonder what's up. -- Jim Douglas (talk)  (contribs)  19:10, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

repeated removal of warnings
Can you recommend a procedure for when an editor repeatedly (1st, 2nd) removes warnings from their Talk page? This user has a history of deleting others' comments, or cagily rearranging them, despite being advised several times not to do so. It makes them hard to review in abuse situations. &mdash; edgarde 00:21, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Agree, let me know if it happens again. -- Armadillo From Hell 00:46, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you much. I didn't know how to preceed. &mdash; edgarde 02:26, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Eric Rhoads
What do you think should be done with a completely self-promoting article like this one: []? I almost tagged it db-spam, but that did not seem right, and db-bio does not work, because there is a claim of notability. But, it is vanity and self-promotion, and articles of this kind make me sick. This is not the purpose of Wikipedia. Your thoughts, Mr. Armadillo? ---Charles 04:06, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Agree, it looks very much like a copyright violation, but I can't prove it. So I tagged it. Can't speedy delete since he is notable. It's not acceptable as is, it should be rewritten and cut down to one fifth of the size, feel free to do that. -- Armadillo From Hell 04:24, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. You must have posted this just minutes before I went offline for the night.  I will take the scissors to it, and see if I can't find something worth keeping.  Spamvanertising really gets on my nerves...  I wish I could have found a speedy category that fit.  Oh well...  Time to do some real editing. ---Charles 18:31, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm sure someone tagged one of his other long articles with a spam tag, and it seems to have gone, but I don't know which one it was.

FYI
-- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs)  06:02, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I'm well appear of that, and normally would let it go, but in this case, since he threatens to come back and since I tagged some images for speedy deletion, I'm just leaving an audit trail. (And boasting that I found where the images were bootlegged LOL) -- Armadillo From Hell 06:14, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, have fun! I actually didn't realize that he was indef blocked; I just checked the log a few minutes ago and noticed that Glen's patience had run out. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs)  06:17, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * It's also a safe excercise in dealing with bootleg images, at least he can't complain. I've reverted all his edits, but was not quite perfect, in one case I reverted and image that was legitimate and not uploade by him. -- Armadillo From Hell 06:20, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Please Support Me
Please support my writing in Asher Heimermann. People are trying to delete information on Wisconsin's only student politician in the state. Your support would be nice! Asher Heimermann 07:05, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I responded to User talk:Asher Heimermann. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs)  07:16, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I shoot down articles left and right every day, and have no mercy, because most of them deserve it as being spam, scrap or scam. But sometimes, I just want to stay out of it. Assuming the whole article is not a hoax and the author is a nice guy, then I don't want to be the nasty, it almost certainly deserves deletion, but I'm staying neutral and not voting. -- Armadillo From Hell  07:40, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I just can't bring myself to pile on to that AfD debate; I have to respect a 13-year-old who takes an active interest in politics: http://www.cox2008.com/cox/early_presidential_campaign_organized_in_13_states/. -- Jim Douglas <sup style="color:green;">(talk) <sub style="color:gray;">(contribs)  07:45, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok, my sympathy just ran out; see Asher Luke Heimermann. -- Jim Douglas <sup style="color:green;">(talk)  <sub style="color:gray;">(contribs)  23:05, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I've been lied to and gamed. I guess he will be a good politician. -- Armadillo From Hell 23:18, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * "Tom" doesn't like us anymore. -- Jim Douglas <sup style="color:green;">(talk) <sub style="color:gray;">(contribs)  01:13, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


 * User:Metros232 has a creative response - nice -- Armadillo From Hell 01:25, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

User:THEBLITZ1
I would say: revert the articles, so the original images are included so there's no holes when his ones are deleted. - Mgm|(talk) 08:38, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks. All reverted already, except one, where there was no image, and I could not find grounds to revert. -- Armadillo From Hell 14:27, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Bosniakophobia -- the article is under construction
Do not delete articles that are under construction.. You have no right to vandalize and suggest articles for speedy deletion when I started the article just 5 minutes ago. Bosniak 21:11, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I am afraid that you are incorrect, and you are not allowed to remove speedy deletion tags - you must follow the standard protocol. -- Armadillo From Hell 21:31, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Ghetto Names
hi. the article i created on ghetto names wasn't a joke, or meant to disparage anyone. i know the title "ghetto names" isn't the best, but honestly i couldn't think of anything better. "African american names" seemed far too broad for the typology of the subject.Donthaveaspaz 00:59, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm sure your intent was good, that's why I didn't put an attack warning on your talk page, (I always do that when I label an article as an attack) just a level 1 information message. But it comes across to me like an attack, I think the best think is to stick in a hangon tag, and start a discussion in the talk page, since I don't make the decision on deleting. -- Armadillo From Hell 01:05, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

What Can I Do On Wikipedia?
Hello. Can you tell me what I can do on wikipedia? Is there anything I can edit or fix. I looking more in the the area of politics and campaigns. Thank you, Asher Heimermann 02:47, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Argh
As much as I want to assume good faith, Asher's recent tagging of Aaron_Sutcliffe leads me to wonder what he's up to... Gzkn 05:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I asked for him to be blocked anbd it was refused. I don't think you should add the hangon, since you did not create it, however, you can remove the speedy delete tag if you give a valid reason. -- Armadillo From Hell 05:43, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I've been wondering what he's up to as well; I asked him a while ago: User talk:Asher Heimermann. I don't think there's anything in the rules that says you can't send a "Welcome to Wikipedia!" greeting to everyone in the new user creation log, but it's definitely unusual. And I removed another template from his user page; this time he was claiming to be a policeman (look in the page history for User:Asher Heimermann). -- Jim Douglas <sup style="color:green;">(talk) <sub style="color:gray;">(contribs)  05:46, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for removing it, it was not right to have it there, but I could not think of the right words to describe why? -- Armadillo From Hell 05:49, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well I think a block is a little too much at this point. I guess we'll just need to keep a closer watch on what he's doing. I'm still holding out hope that he can learn and become a valid contributor to Wikipedia. Gzkn 05:50, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, the template was my mistake. I was so used to him misusing templates that I deleted it by impulse. His use of that template is ok: User:Asher Heimermann -- Jim Douglas <sup style="color:green;">(talk) <sub style="color:gray;">(contribs)  05:53, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

13 year old "politician"
I'm starting to have serious doubts about whether this guy has any interest in improving Wikipedia. As you well know, we've now deleted the third (maybe more) article about him, as well as blanking his user page, which he was using as a resume. Searching for "wikipedia Asher Heimermann" on google, I came across this account. I've blanked the user page, because it was an ad for a club (it even had a "donations" link!), and guess who the president of the club is? This email gives Asher's address, which confirms he's the one behind the article. He'll make a good politician, he's already started canvassing. Now I prefer to assume good faith, but this kid's starting to push his luck... yandman 08:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I think someone should warn Wikibooks about what's coming their way? -- Armadillo From Hell 20:27, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

NPWatcher
You've been approved to use NPWatcher. When you log into the program, wait a few seconds while it queries wikipedia before screaming at your PC for crashing (unless you see an error, of course). Please give me any feature requests, bugs, etc. The watchlist feature does not work. Before you run the program, please check the changelog on the application page to see if I've made a new release. Finally, enjoy! M a rtinp23
 * As you will be able to tell, the GUI needs work! I'm doing this over the weekend :) Please report any bugs to me (I'm also on IRC in freenode, user Martinp23). Thanks for your interest! M a rtinp23 23:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry! -User:1758 Carillon

Asher again...
First, he creates an article for Mayor Juan Perez. Then he adds a speedy deletion notice to it using an IP. I change it from db to db-bio, and now he's asking me why I want to delete it. I'm really getting quite exasperated with his antics. Gzkn 04:17, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Yep, I was watching that whole dialogue. I wish there was a rule that newwbies can't issued welcome messages (or for some else I've been watching, be on the helpers list). You have a whole bunch of new people who will now go ask him for help, and he is clueless. Asking to be an admin after two days of warnings shows a complete lasck of understanding of what goes on here. There is a slight possibility the whole thing is just a game for him and he knows exactly what he is doing - the use of the IP address indicates that - playing sockpuppet and making an error to leave evidences. -- Armadillo From Hell  04:32, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I just asked him to please add to Juan Perez (mayor). I don't see how the mayor of a town with a population of around 50,000 is notable. -- Jim Douglas <sup style="color:green;">(talk) <sub style="color:gray;">(contribs)  05:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Looking more and more like a high school vandal, he just has a little more style. Love his new signature (pretentions of grandeur)). And now he wants an award - see Barnstar_and_award_proposals -- Armadillo From Hell 05:17, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

After I typed up a long note to him about how he can improve and contribute, I noticed you added him to WP:AIV. I'm not sure if that's really appropriate at the moment; he's been disruptive, but he hasn't received the range of templates recently that would normally justify a block. -- Jim Douglas <sup style="color:green;">(talk) <sub style="color:gray;">(contribs)  05:55, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I added him to AIV before you posted that note. I feel he's had more than ample warnings of various kinds. He also seems to be playing games, e.g. it seems almost certain he put the speedy delete tag on the article using an IP address. -- Armadillo From Hell 06:02, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree with Jim. Barring him committing some egregious vandalism, AIV isn't the right place. If the disruptions worsen, WP:AN/I might be better for this situation. Gzkn 06:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I yanked him from WP:AIV because of the procedural concerns. He's had dozens of informal warnings over the past several days, but he hasn't committed obvious vandalism, followed by clear warning templates, that would put him in WP:AIV. But we probably need to start responding to his infractions with formal warning templates now, rather than "play nice" lectures (I'm particularly guilty there). -- Jim Douglas <sup style="color:green;">(talk) <sub style="color:gray;">(contribs)  06:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Bobby
Hello. How should I go about this. Should I post a link or forget about it? Asher Heimermann 09:03, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

re Toronto Western Hospital
Thanks for uplifting Toronto Western Hospital to use the upgraded template. I'm still trying to work out some specifics for some of the additional features I added to the template, see User_talk:Dhodges. For the UK, I expect all public hospitals will point to the overall NHS rather than to NHS Scotland, NHS Wales, Health and Care NI. Likewise do you think it would be better, especially given that 8 out of the 10 locally named Provincal Medicare schemes are red-links, for all Canadian hospitals to point to just Medicare (Canada), rather than just a few being able to point to say Ontario Health Insurance Plan ? (If HealthCare='Medicare' it will point to the correct page for Australia/Canada/US). David Ruben Talk 09:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I think it would for now, since they are mostly red links, akthough I don't like medicare, since to me it's an American term, but I don't have a better suggestion right now. Is there any easy way to have it go to OHIP for Ontario, and a general term for all the ones that are red links? Funny that for all the time I've lived here, I've never been that aware about how other provinces handle health care. -- Armadillo From Hell 14:42, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, interesting idea - I'll respond on Template talk:Infobox Hospital. Thanks David Ruben Talk 14:54, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Just to let you know, as only 2 Ontarians (? is that the correct term) offered direct help with the upgraded Template:Infobox Hospital implementation, it seemed only fair to apply the new template across all hospitals listed in 'Category:Hospitals in Ontario' and its sub-categories first :-) If you find any errors, please fix :-) David Ruben Talk 21:59, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for telling, me, I'm way to busy this week to do anythin more than cut and paste vandalfighting, maybe when I have more time in a week or two I'll look at it. I need to find out more about templates anyway for a Wiki I run. -- Armadillo From Hell 23:03, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Fire Service
ArmadilloFromHell, welcome to the WikiProject Fire Service! It is my goal to increse the overall quality of articles on English Wikipedia relating to the fire service while keeping an international perspective. Please feel free to leave me a message with any questions! I look forward to working with you! --Daysleeper47 19:43, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I am happy to rework anything; If it steps on either of the other two known related WikiProjects, we should works with their members as well. I am also looking to rework the templates I created for tagging pages, member pages, and stubs. Take a look at what I made and feel free to edit them or offer suggestions/alternatives. This all just started today but I think I have a good start. Thanks! --Daysleeper47 21:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank You
I was getting really sick of reverting Cbath's vandalism. I did not want to get into an edit war and I was hoping that someone else would intervene. I have reported Cbath and I hope proper action is taken.

Reverting vandalism is hard enough when I'm not yet allowed to use vandal proof.--Renegade Replicant 03:57, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I went to list him at AiV and you beat me to it! Teamwork -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 03:59, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I was afraid you had done the same!

Especially when I saw that there was an edit conflict the first time I tried to report Cbath.

By the way, I wonder what was the deal with Cbath and that "Mr. Jihad" image?--Renegade Replicant 04:08, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * No idea - I thought at first he had some point to make, but it seemed just random vandalism. As far as reporting at AIV, you get edit conflicts a lot of the time. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 04:33, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

New Message
Apparently, you wrote this to me:

You recent creation of this article contained a list of books on Amazon with affiliate IDs attached. This is blatant spam, and misuse of WikiPedia.

Please stop. If you continue spamming you will be blocked from editing. --ArmadilloFromHellGateBridge 08:26, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Here is my reply:

This is not true. If you check, the ref= indicates that the referral has been from images from Amazon. All I did was to go to Amazon.com without signing in, search for the book and then browse by clicking on links through that search. I tried to make it a point not to include my referral id by not signing in. I did not spam!!!! (I hope you read this, whoever you are!!!!)--Rwphan 08:33, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

By the way, I am not knowledgeable enough to know which part of the link to remove the referral. But rest assured, it is not a referral id for anyone to earn any money clicking on those links. At least I did not create them intentionally. Thanks for listening/reading.--Rwphan 08:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I edited the message on your talk page to exclude the warning part. Nevertheless, IMO, you should not be adding links to Amazon in Wikipedia. It is still link spam. The correct thing is to list the books with it's title and ISBN number. e.g.


 * On Wings of Eagles (1983) ISBN 0-451-16353-2

-- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 14:32, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks for the tip. I will do as you suggested in future. Please be patient with me. Still learning the ropes. --Rwphan 06:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Please
Please you don't have a clue on what is going on, inform yourself before acting in the future. Ancient Land of Bosoni


 * I am very clear what is going on, you vandalized the article plain and simple. There is no excuse for that. Also be very aware of WP:CIVIL -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 18:03, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Vandalized it by adressing humanity? Ancient Land of Bosoni

Read all of this before replying, Thanks,
Hey, I am a fair user of Wikipedia for about 1 1/2 on both the English and the Bosnian Wikipedias. I am bureaucrat on the Bosnian Wikinews. So, I am not someone out of nowhere trying to put out my POV. I have neither vandalized nor plan on doing so. I am writing you in regards to the List of Serb war criminals. I'll be honest I see nothing wrong with the article. Let it be known that Serbians caused a lot of aggression and autocracies upon Bosnian civilians. Don't worry I am not writing this as if I have my own unresolved problems concerning the Bosnian War. First, the article is neutral. The people have been indicted by the ICYT and most are criminals (let is be decided by the court). The list of ICTY is a good one but is tedious to read. Seriously, looking at it al Serbs, Croats, Bosniaks, Albanians, Montenegrins, etc. are put on the same list. (if you notice only several Bosniaks (Bosnian Muslims) are there and only 3-4 have been sentenced). Therefore, it would be much easier to read and search for a list like that. The Serbian users are saying that the category is enough, since they know that reader of wiki and the beginning User will never look at the category or know how to search for something like that. Also, one cannot access the category without specifically clicking on it, meaning that there is not link in the article itself to lead to the category. This is their POV. We all have our own POV's and bias, but seriously no one on that page has given a decent reason. Thanks and please reply, Vseferović 20:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * But you miss the whole point, I'm not getting involved in the the politics or the validity or anthing that you talk about. It's really very simple. I saw a number of articles posted they were in my opinion deserving of a db-bio tag, as not asserting notability. E,g it's like creating an article that says:


 * Hitler was a tyrant who massacred a lot of people.


 * If you have never heard of hitler, that article would get a db-bio as it says nothing. Later I happened to notice the List - which was related. All the warnings I've given are for violation of procedure vandalizing and vote stacking- nothing I have said states the pros or cons of anything you say. If you have a point, the way to make it is not by vandalzing and breaking the rules. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge  20:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Original poster, I know exactley what you're talking about. This loser whats Wiki to roll around a ball of perfection. If I went to the Hitler board and said he hated jews, this idiot will probably ask for a resource. - Goldstann

Barnstar

 * Thanks - I will put in my awards box. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 21:30, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

police-man icon
Love it! DMacks 21:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I figured he may not understand English, and it would get the message across. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 21:30, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

TJHSST
Just out of curiosity, why did you revert my edit?Eowbotm1 05:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC)


 * If I assume good faith, you are not a sockpuppet and you tampered with the talk page of another user. That is no allowed. If I don't assume good faith, you are a sockpuppet and I should ask for you to get banned. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 00:06, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
 * When did I vandalize another user's talk page? I removed stuff frm my own, nd I'm sorr about tht, as I didn't know you couldn't, but I never did anyhing to anyone else's. In any case, that's not the dit I was referring to.  I was reffering to my edit of tjhsst (hence the subtitle), where I was cleaning it up, and you reverted it, claiming it as vandalism.  It was a legit edit, and I am curious as to why you reverted it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eowbotm1 (talk • contribs).

Help
What did I do wrong???? (Got a warning for deleting junk!) 24.123.3.106 00:52, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Very sorry, totally my error, you in fact had revereted another vandalism, and when issuing warnings to them I included you. Thank you for bringin it to my attention. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 00:57, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! What a releif! 24.123.3.106 16:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Sockpuppets of Wikipedian14
What is the reason for thinking these users, such as User:Alfredlebum and User:Sconeyj are sockpuppets? —Centrx→talk &bull; 08:35, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * They were all creating a lot of fake football club articles - all of which got deleted - possibly not sockpuppets, but an organized gang posters -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 08:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I just remembered that I kept a list - see  -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge  08:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Are you sure these are the same person and not just different people who happen to be interested in football? Also, Wikipedian14 is not banned, the user account was blocked as being an inappropriate username. —Centrx→talk &bull; 09:04, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Without doing a checkuser I cannot be sure of any sockpuppet. Blocked were requested for several of those mentioned above (most were denied), which resulted iun Wikipedian14 being banned, also the IP address 212.85.5.212 was blocked at that time and —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ArmadilloFromHell (talk • contribs).

Nellie Connolly
I deleted that part of the article because it was inaccurate! Jackie never tried to leap out the car. She went up and grabbed JFK's brain! I even stated that in the Nellie Connolly discussion box after I deleted that. Why do always have to screw things up?

Goldstann is back as Goldstann2 deleting content from same said article. No comment or supporting arguments for his deletion.Gdavidp 22:49, 4 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks - situation is now under control. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 01:19, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
thank you for reverting my talk page after 71.197.133.161 deleted my talk page
 * Very welcome, I like the new (←Blanked the page) summary that shows up, it makes it easier to see these problems -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 01:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Thierry Henry
I added vandalism by accident; I was reverting previous vandalism, and clicked the 'rollback' button; apparently the person I was reverting had removed previous vandalism. Veinor (ヴエノル(talk)) 17:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, I understand, I removed the warning message -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 18:02, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Morrison Foerster article
I think that "motherfucker" needs to be kept. Per Profanity, "Words and images that might be considered offensive, profane, or obscene by other Wikipedia readers should be used if and only if their omission would cause the article to be less informative, relevant, or accurate, and no equally suitable alternatives are available. Including information about offensive material is part of Wikipedia's encyclopedic mission; being offensive is not." It is not relevant or informative to say that MoFo is short for "one who has an odd relationship with one's mother". If I didn't already know that MoFo stood for motherfucker, I'd have to search through the article history to see what on earth that even meant. 140.247.243.220 04:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


 * It's a matter of interpretation I guess, I would avoid it, but see what others say. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 04:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Userpage
Just recently you edited my userpage, it looks like you just added some extra spaces, what'd you do? --Cao Wei 05:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm working on a project to remove user pages from template categories, there is a common error that if people add templates in a certain way, they copy the category of the template into the user page, and the user page then shows up incorrectly in template categories. See Note #2 in User:ArmadilloProcess which is copied from the comments in most template categories. So I removed Immortal and  Category:Jewish user templates from your user page. It appears that I need to also remove some additional formatting caused by the two spaces. Sorry you got caughr in my initial test. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge  05:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

No problem, I'm just glad there wasn't something wrong. --Cao Wei 23:45, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

embarassed
Thank you for adding the tags to the Din Din Aviv article, I wasn't sure exactly how to set them up. As for the vandal count uh, I didn't have a special tool, I saw your page and was just messing around, you know, figuring that the weirdest way to vandalise your page would be to raise the vandal count by one. so, if the last guy did two, maybe you should add another one...  By the way, speaking of vandalism, where can I find more info about helping fight vandalism? Thanks Avraham 08:29, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

woodworking
Hi. It's not super important but you have the woodworking userbox twice. By the way, why does your page get vandalised so often? Three times in the past day?! Is it because you're on anti-vandalism? Avraham 00:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, also, evin if you count my updating your vandal count, I think your counter is high: 52 + me + the guy with the dirty website today = 54, but I could be missing something. Avraham 00:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Slurpee
Well what do you know ... You're right! In my defense, at least I was correct about the spelling being off. :) I've put the information back, this time including a link to the Wii.  Thank you very much for catching that! --Mdwyer 05:06, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


 * It was on my watch list and I actually started deleting it as nonsense a week or two ago since it looked like some kid's speeling mistake when I was fixing something else. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 05:24, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Pasty
Apropos nothing, I noticed that you have an... interest? in the Pasty. When I wrote the article on Everything2 on the Pasty, I compared it to a Runza, Bierock and why my college called a 'Krautburger' and my grade schools called a 'Germanburger'. Would it make sense to stitch all those articles together, at least with something that notes their similarity? --Mdwyer 05:22, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, I bookmarked it when I bumped into it. I haven't had a food one since I was a kid in England. I can cook, but I've never done pastry. My daughter tried making them for me once to no sucess - so maybe I'll try again. As far as linking the other two (which I never heard of), I think a See also section on each one might be good. I note that the pasty is listed in Category:Savoury pies and the other two in sandwich categories. From one point of view they are all pocket sandwiches - so I just created Category:Pocket sandwiches -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 05:35, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

IFE
IFE should be in the firefighting and fire categories even if one of those cateogories comes within the other. I don't think five categories is excessive for one article. I thought the idea of the categories is to show articles in as many places as possible. You could remove it from Fire, but not firefighting, as the IFE provides qualifications for civilians and fire officers alike, so I think it should definitely feature in that category. Regards Escaper7 06:12, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFBOT
Your recent bot approvals request has been withdrawn. Please see the request page for details. -- RM 14:25, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

sorry?
hey. sorry. just hypor after all those donuts. i hav no life. :-( and are u spying on me?? everytime i make edits, u know.... lol —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.88.254.2 (talk) 03:36, 10 December 2006 (UTC).


 * ...and are u spying on me Yes -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 03:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Possible Sockpuppet Trouble
I would take action myself but since I appear to be part of the conflict I think perhaps I should ask someone familiar. If you'll recall User:Mr Bullockx from, I think he has just created a sockpuppet: User:MinervaSimpson. The account was created only an hour ago and almost immediately began putting up articles for deletion, including some of mine (and on those the user has made what appears to be personal attacks). The user also seems to be behaving just the same way as the former user did, (stalking my edits?) and has recently posted copyright work (which has just been deleted). I think this could be a sockpuppet, but since I am not sure and since I also don't want to get into a serious confrontation or a serious bout of bad faith, I'd rather you look it over since I believe you have a little familiarity with this situation. Thanks. -WarthogDemon 06:50, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * See and he/she also created an AFD for a DAB page, nuts -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge  07:04, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Shall I rewrite there what I just told you here? -WarthogDemon 07:11, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I think you should -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 07:12, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. For the most part, I copied/pasted what I just wrote here, if that's acceptable. -WarthogDemon 07:23, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Poptarts
Thanks. Yeah, someone else was on it too, he got a "welcome" message from a user named James something at the same time. I've been using recent edits and manually looking for vandalism, is there a more sophisticated way? Also, is there a stock thing to post on someone's userpage (you know, the "your edit to page worked!...") I've just been sort of making it up and telling them they can contact me if they have questions. Thanks! Avraham 09:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * It's best to use canned messages such as these Template:TestTemplates - making sure to add subst:, I use those for 99% of the messages I give, I have a few others I created from some admin posts I've seen. As far as finding vandalism, I just have a lot (whoops I just checked and it's almost 8,000) articles on my watch list, those that get vandalized a lot stay on the list and keep popping up, those I get bored with fixing I remove from the list. When someone vandalizes, I check his other recent contribs and tag those also, since there are a lot of repeat offendors. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge  10:03, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Blank Talk page
Please don't interfer with my Talk or User page. Its blank at the moment by choice. I wish to discourage others leaving abusive messages. Mu User page is blank for the same reason. The legit message you reinstated had already been replied to by me on the appropriate page as requested. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.156.89.65 (talk • contribs)


 * Sorry, but in my opinion, it is not correct for a person to remove warnings from his own talk page. Legitimate warnings are not considered abusive messages. Also, since much of the page blanking and this message is from an IP address (I have changed the signature, since it could well be forged), I have no idea who you really are, and consider it vandalism by an unknown IP address. You cause great confusion if in fact you are editing using both a user name and an IP address. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 02:21, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

A pleasant thanks
I'm sorry, but it was my virgin vandalism, so I picked Boutros (Boutros Boutros) Boutros-Ghali. It seemed like a high traffic page. You're message was so polite, informative, and direct. Thank you. I do not intend to vandalize again, it was just an experiment. In fact, I'm interested in becomming part of the wikipedia community, although not to an all-consuming extent. Is there someone willing to adopt me and teach me the ropes? Thanks. --Tomorronow 15:59, 12 December 2006 (UTC)tomorronow


 * Thank you very much for your co-operation, users vary in their response to warning messages, as you can see from the following thread, so it's refreshing to see your post. As far as help, the best thing is to take a look at Adopt-a-User, unfortunately due to other demands on my time, I generally only have time for quick jump-in, jump-out, cut and paste work on Wikipedia. If you have any problem getting signed up for "adoption" ask me again. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge  02:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia.--Roccobattaglia 21:18, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * You are the one removing warnings about prior vandalism from your talk page, keep it up and you will get blocked. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 21:21, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

You are wrong. The initial warning was vandalism as I was not guilty of vandalism. therefore I was right to delete it. You are vandalising my page.--Roccobattaglia 21:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Roccobattaglia 21:26, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I think you would be wise to check that my initial edit was in fact vandalism. It seems that you are harrassing me for no good reason.--Roccobattaglia 21:28, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Note, these above warnings were not issued in the approved sequence, you can't issue a test warning immediately followed by a test4 and tell someone they will be blocked, that in itself is another form of vandalism. Erasing talk page messages without discussion is a no-no, if you believe you have received a warning incorrectly, then discuss it with the person who issued the warning, and ask them to remove the warning, serially erasing warning messages seems like an attempt to hide the evidence and issuing warning messages to other editors in retalation is not a good idea. See also  -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge  21:46, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

You are wrong. I am within my rights to remove vandalism from my own talk page. --Roccobattaglia 21:50, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * You have been now warned by four different editors, including at least one admin, that you are being disruptive. So go ahead and do what you want and see if exercising your rights works for you. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 21:54, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Is it difficult for you to admit that you are wrong? --Roccobattaglia 21:56, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I am often wrong, but not IMO in this case, and note that I don't go around removing spurious warnings from my talk page. It's all in the open. Anyway, at this point you have been reported, you are being monitored, and I am no longer continuing the discussion, it's not leading anywhere usefull. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 21:59, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Note further that at this point replaced this whole talk page with obscenities and hsa received indefinitely block -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge  22:13, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

User:68.192.42.236
This user has already recieved. I have reported him to AIV. Thank you for your vigilance, but the issue is being resolved. :3 PumeleonT 01:24, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I reported him to AIF just after you did, I removed the double post -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 01:25, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi
First off, let me assure you he is Jewish with a first name like that. And then there is the sir name, so chill. Secondly I didnt slap anything in his face about it. About the welcoming, perhaps we can discuss this further, as I am writing a welcomebot that I have been told will be likly to be granted a trail. Your input would be valuable, as it seems you have noticed welcoming trends as in negative affects of welcoming. Thanks. frummer 08:27, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Template:Recreated
It seems to be wrong in the way it substitutes the parameter, is you pass it an article link, it refers to that as the location of the deletion policies. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 01:15, 17 December 2006 (UTC)


 * You have recently recreated or reposted material which previously was deleted in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policies. Please do not recreate this article without prior approval from an administrator or you may be blocked from editing. We ask that you respect what Wikipedia is not. If you disagree with the article's deletion, you may seek an independent deletion review.  It looks fine to me. Are you sure? --   Netsnipe  ►  03:52, 17 December 2006 (UTC)


 * No, it looks like the deletion polices are located at Sandbox IMO, it should read more like:


 * You have recently recreated or reposted the article Sandbox, which previously was deleted in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policies. Please do not recreate this article without prior approval from ...

My phrasing tries to take into account that new editors sometimes try to avoid scrutiny by reposting their previously deleted content under a different article name. What else do you suggest? --  Netsnipe  ►  19:29, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFBOT
Your recent bot approvals request has been approved for trial. Please see the request page for details. No matter what, please post a response to the page indicating whether or not you are going to perform the trial or whether or not you have withdrawn the request. Since there has not been any discussion lately, I'm not sure if you even still want to perform this task, so let us know on the request page. Thanks! -- RM 16:54, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for letting me know. A user had accidentally pasted the entire content of their userpage into my talkpage by mistake. I just hadn't cleaned it up yet. Thanks again, ^ demon [omg plz] <em style="font-size:10px;">16:26, 19 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Yep, he has the same problem - his talk page is in the category also. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 16:29, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Link spam
Thanks for fixing Arabic language, there were a few links to that domain that I removed - triggered by additons from a now blocked IP address Special:Contributions/24.165.95.36. Perhaps I should restore some of them. -- Armadillo From Hell GateBridge 16:57, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
 * You are doing a great work Armadillo. I'll have a look at those and i'll be following that vandal. Cheers --  Szvest   -  Wiki me up ®  17:07, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

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