User talk:Armanaziz/Archive02

News Archive
Hi, sorry for being rather inactive in later days. Anyway, can you create an archive for the news that appeared at the Portal:Bangladesh already. I think that would really help. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh 22:10, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Timely thinking Tarif. Done already. Arman Aziz 01:37, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


 * way to go, Brother;) regards again --Tarif from Bangladesh 20:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Portal peer review/Australian music
Thanks for your comments here. However, as far as I'm aware, fair use content (ie. most audio/video samples) can't be used on portals. If this is the case (or if it isn't, correct me), do you have any other suggestions related to this? Thanks for your help! Dihydrogen Monoxide (H2O) 04:35, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for the tip. Dihydrogen Monoxide (H2O) 23:12, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. I agree (in essence) with what you're saying - we'll see how it goes. By the way, good luck with your FPOC - I added some suggestions which you might like to take on board. Dihydrogen Monoxide (H2O) 07:02, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Broadband :)
Finally I'm going to have a broadband connection. Clearly, I can world more freely and regularly. So, please ask me for any favour and good luck with your attempt on Muhammad Yunus. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh 20:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Is that in Bangladesh Tarif bhai? What speeds would you be getting and what's the cost? (Just curious) → AA (talk) — 21:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

That's good news Tarif. Hope you will contribute more from now on! BTW, I have high-spreed connection here in Hong Kong, as well. So, if there is any band-width intensive work (upload/download image/media files etc.) any of you can ask me, too. Meanwhile, I am planning to propose a new collaboration topic soon. Hope both of you will participate. Arman Aziz 01:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes. I am getting 100 kbps and download speed is 7 to 8. I have given 800 Taka in advance and monthly rent is 550. I and my friend Toky is using the same connection. So the cost down to half. That means it would double if only one person gets it. limitation is, even though two of us can use it at the same time, it gets too slow if one tries to download something. Otherwise it's ok, the connection is powered by BracNet. Thanks --Tarif from Bangladesh 15:56, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Help with table again
Replied. → AA (talk) — 08:24, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Re:A. K. Fazlul Haq
Ok, Arman bhai, I'll see what I can do. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh 11:49, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


 * In fact, I have found a lot about A. K. Fazlul Huq in Bashir Al Helal's Bhasha Andoloner Itihash. I'll try to start posting them as early as I can. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh 12:56, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I have posted some info on Sher-e-Bangla. Hope I can get some more. --Tarif from Bangladesh 15:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Bhaia
Thank you Bhaia for your support at World Universities Debating Ranking. Just an extra request, may I get your email address? My one is notredamean AT gmail DOT com. - Niaz  (Talk •  Contribs)  17:59, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Re:

 * Wow Bhaia. That's really great. I was also thinking of a Bangladeshi debate related article. Now I'm quite confident that we can create/develop a well cited and well organized debate related article, may be as "Debating in Bangladesh".


 * Currently I am serving as a lecturer at Uttara University where I am also acting as the moderator of their debating club. Recently we organized an inter university debating championship, completely in Worlds format, with 46 teams from different parts of Bangladesh. You'll be happy to know that IBA became champion in its Bengali event. As IBA was taking part in another tournament in India, their English team couldn't participate in UU. Otherwise they might go for double title. In recent days IBA is performing awesome both in English and Bengali.


 * I changed my default signature from the Signature option of My Preference. You'll see an empty box there. You need to put HTML code in that box in order to change your signature. I am sending you my codes through mail so that you can get a clear idea on this issue. For further assistance, feel free to ask me.


 * By the way, recently Star Campus published one of my WP related articles. You may read this article from this link. Click Here


 * - Niaz  (Talk •  Contribs)  08:04, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Re: Bhaia, it's again really great to know that you are one of the former IBA DC president. I met SMK on few occasions recently, though we just exchanged Hello-Hi. But I have a very close relation with current President of IBA (Sadman) and their current debaters such as Wahid, Shagor and others. I do completely agree that SMK would be one of the best persons who can help us in this issue. It would be really nice if you manage SMK to help us for developing a well organized article on Bangladeshi debating. Now I am feeling inspired to work on Bangladeshi Debate related articles :-D . Regards, Niaz  (Talk •  Contribs)  05:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you know
Hi, Arman bhai. We've got a DYK-Bangali River!!! I've added this to Portal:Bangladesh. You can add them to Archive. Regards. --Tarif from Bangladesh 14:50, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Arman bhai for detecting the mistake. Yes, it's 2007, I'm fixing it. --Tarif from Bangladesh 10:22, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Portal peer review/Puerto Rico
Hi, Arman! Thank you for reviewing Portal:Puerto Rico. I'm taking your suggestions to heart and implementing them to the portal. I'm just stopping by to see if you could look at how these colors are shaking up: User:Mtmelendez/Portal. I agree that better colors were needed, so I'm trying to find just the right balance. Any more suggestions are also welcome. - Mtmelendez (Talk 00:29, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Replied here. Arman Aziz 03:28, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Arman, I've revamped the Portal page with your suggestions, and I admit they are great improvements. Could you please review again for any other suggestions? I'm preparing to nominate it for featured status. Thanks. - Mtmelendez (Talk 02:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah, good find. It was a wiki-link, and therefore appeared blue. This was removed and inserted inside the transcluded page. Thank you very much for the review, it did wonders. I'm now nominating for WP:FPOC. Cheers! - Mtmelendez (Talk 03:33, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Chiefs of Army Staff, Bangladesh
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Re: Portal:Africa

 * Re: User talk:Black Falcon

Thanks, that's a good idea. I've gone ahead and added the tag since it will take me some time to create the necessary 50+ subpages. After I'm done with that, I'll go ahead and address the other issue you raised (of the same image being used in the /Featured picture and /Featured article boxes). Cheers, Black Falcon (Talk) 03:22, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Biman Bangladesh Airlines
Arman bhai, many thanks for your comments on the peer review of this article. I have now nominated it for FAC. Please assist in getting it to FA status. Many thanks. → AA (talk) — 08:56, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Yunus
Thanks to your stupendous efforts, this article is now more than GA quality, I guess. Sorry that I didn't do it myself (shame on my lazy bones). There are a few things that can still be improved (Nabajug Tebhaga, village of Jobra, an expansion of the Grameen mandate, a couple of refs here and there, datelinks...). But, all that can be done gradually over time. With editors like you taking an interest there is ample reason to see a brilliant future for this article, way beyond a GA (I was planning to do a bti more work, but haven't got around to that yet). Besides, the GA reviewer will probably making the comments on the improvements that he or she will require to pass it. Then it will be a simple matter of addressing those issues. Cheers. Aditya (talk • contribs) 11:51, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

News for portal
"Abdullah Al Rakib has been officially announced as a Grandmaster by the World Chess Federation (FIDE)." . --Ragib 19:41, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Ya, that's a great news. But I didn't know Portal:Bangladesh was featured. Congrates!!--Tarif from Bangladesh 07:23, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Star Campus article
Thank you bhaia for your compliment. There will be a series of articles on WP at Star Campus. I have taken this initiative to encourage school/college/university level students to work on WP.

Bhaia, as you advised, I will talk to the Daily Star authority for releasing some historical and biographical photos in the public domain. Main problem that I am facing here is, they do not understand Wikipedia and its activity. Again and again they asked me about my benefit here. It took four meetings to make them understand that WP is a non-profitable project maintained by a non-profit oriented group. In my first article on WP I basically tried to focus on those points to make other understand about its activity.

By the way, would you please tell me the exact procedure through which some one can release their work in the public domain? And also any such example? These info will help me to convince them.

Regards,

Niaz (Talk •  Contribs)  07:42, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Bhaia, I'll try my best to manage best possible facilities for WP. Due to Ramadan and Eid edition, they are extremely busy nowadays. Hopefully after the Eid I can arrange the meeting and explain them what actually we are looking for. Regards, - Niaz  (Talk •  Contribs)  04:26, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Niaz bhai, you may want to point them to the Commons FAQ which should answer most of their questions. Further information can be obtained from the help desk. → AA (talk) — 05:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry
Yes, Arman bhai, we should be consistent. Honestly, I don't know much about Harvard citation. Dwaipayan da used it for Bengali Language Movement and I liked it. So I used it that way. You can change it if you like. By the way, sorry about not working on Sher-E-Bangla. I'll get some time to work for it sooner. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh 08:39, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * if you all think that it should be merged, then it should be merged. But an DYK entry at the main page has already been listed. And Aditya bhai said, "newspaper supplemets are hardly notable enough for stand alone articles (apart from incidences like the Alpin fiasco)". If I had a choice, I would keep it as Alpin (supplement) though. Go ahead, make your move, I don't know much about guidelines anyway. Regards--Tarif from Bangladesh 08:45, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The Alpin article may remain separate as an event article like 2007 Chittagong mudslide. What do you think? Cheers. Aditya (talk • contribs) 15:39, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I think the Alpin article should be moved to Alpin cartoon controversy. The current article content (with its infobox removed) will do just fine. A shorter summary of the article should be incorporated in the article on Prothom Alo. Same should be the case of Chutir Dine, and the main article should be deleted. The alpin and chutir dine cover images may be used in Prothom Alo with reduced image-size.


 * However, I am not going to make these changes myself. I think the current approach of Tarif is also ok but not the best approach. So, I'd beg to be exempted from WP:BOLD on this occassion. Arman (Talk) 06:29, 29 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I started working for bn.wiki for a month. Saw the great news about Biman Bangladesh Airlines. And I'd still support to keep Alpin (supplement) as a separate article. Had it not been notable enough for an individual article, it should not be nominated for DYK. Chutir Dine is another thing. Anyway, I've already told. I ain't no expert in this ;(

Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh 07:25, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I have moved the Alpin article to 2007 Bangladesh cartoon controversy. I hope no one minds. It seemed more appropriate. Now, if possible, can someone upload the cartoon itself and put into the article? Aditya (talk • contribs) 11:42, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

About releasing pictures on public domain
Bhaia,

I had a telephone conversation with the Daily Star authority but it wasn't a fruitful one. It seems that I need to arrange a meeting and convince them by showing a presentation. Moreover, releasing pictures, public domain these terms are too heavy for them! They are taking these words something related to law and contract. That is why I decided to tell them to permit us officially to use their pictures on Wikipedia. Will it be okay or they have to mention that they are releasing those pictures on the public domain? Please let me know.

Kind regards,

Niaz (Talk •  Contribs)  08:51, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The key thing they need to be aware of is that they have to consent to releasing under a "PD-type" license which will allow anyone to use the images for any purpose. It may be more appropriate to seek the help of admins working the Image namespace for more clarity. → AA (talk) — 11:43, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Need your help bro

 * Replied. → AA (talk) — 11:43, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

DYK
I saw (...that Narayan Debnath made the comic-strip character Batul The Great a superhero when the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 flared up?) it in Portal:West Bengal. Is it ok for Portal:Bangladesh? Regards--Tarif from Bangladesh 11:00, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1971 War? Definitely can be included into the Bangladesh fold. Cheers. Aditya (talk • contribs) 05:29, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Lalbagh Fort
Better lighting conditions, better contrast and color tone, the sky, water and the tomb itself looking way more gorgeous. Go for the replacement. Cheers. Aditya (talk • contribs) 05:35, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


 * In case you guys need photos of Old Dhaka, I have a great many of them at my flickr page. Just pick one and let me know, I'll upload it. I'm a bit too lazy to upload all of them to commons .... will have to do it soon. Thanks. --Ragib 05:44, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Sher-e-Bangla
I asked my friend to collect that book on Sher-E-Bangla. Will do it shortly.--Tarif from Bangladesh 12:00, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: List of universities
Thank you bhaia. I am working hard on this list, even last night I worked there till 4 am. Hopefully within this eid vacation I can finish editing this list with tables and references. Though I am facing difficulties with some of the universities that do not have their official sites, still I am hopeful to have a Featured List Candidate soon. Regards, -- Niaz  (Talk •  Contribs)  10:55, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Bhaia, actually I am a paying bekar now! This year I received Irish Government's IRCSET Embark Initiative Scholarship which is often compared with UK's commonwealth scholarship because of its status and huge level of funding. I am gonna join University of Dublin, Trinity College in this November as a postgraduate research student in Wireless Communication. Because of getting prepared for my departure, recently I resigned from Uttara University (UU) where I was appointed as a lecturer in the department of Computer Science and Engineering. Interestingly UU authority is quite impressed with my service and decided to pay me one month extra honorary salary. Now the scenario is - I am waiting for my visa, doing necessary shoppings and getting my salary automatically without serving a single min at UU. Cricket, English Premier Football League, Articles for Star Campus and Wikipedia, my current routine. A perfect paying bekar :-). -- Niaz  (Talk •  Contribs)  11:27, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

AA's RFA
Thanks for your comments! Sorry for the late reply - my net connection decided to go AWOL at the crucial time! → AA (talk) — 13:16, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Yunus oslo photo.jpg)
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Niaz_bd became Niaz
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Fellow Wikipedians,

This is to notify you that recently I have changed my username (through userpatation) to an appropriate one and from now you'll recognize me as Niaz instead of Niaz_bd.

Kind regards,

Niaz (Talk •  Contribs)  09:19, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Selectedbiography
Selected biography is not visible in the Portal:Bangladesh:. Please fix that. --Tarif from Bangladesh 16:15, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

More DYK
more dyk for Bangladesh and Bengal portal. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh 16:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Poverty in Pakistan
 * Alamgir Kabir (filmmaker)
 * Mangalkavya

Ha!Ha! Ok, I'll do that. Regards--Tarif from Bangladesh 18:28, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Here they are by the way, I now have the Chotoder Fazlul Huq book. Will add from there soon ;) Regards--Tarif from Bangladesh 01:51, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * ...that as a consequence of poverty in Pakistan 51% of tenants are bonded to their landlords in a feudal fashion?
 * ...that the Bangladeshi filmmaker Alamgir Kabir was imprisoned by Ayub Khan for being a leftist?
 * ...that Mangalkavya depicted the social customs of Bengal in the middle ages?

"Article Moves" while preserving history
To move an article, use the move button rather than cut-paste moves. Cut paste moves don't preserve article history ... (which is a requirement for GFDL). If an article/redirect already exists, ask an admin to do the move. Thanks. :) --Ragib 14:20, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your guidance. I'll be careful in future. Arman (Talk) 01:53, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Bangladesh national colour ???
Does Bangladesh have a "National colour" I can colour the Mukti Bahini units with in my map of the 1971 liberation war? I chose Saffron for India and Green for Pakistan, as they seem to be "National Colours" The colour must contrast with the Green and Saffron and must be distingishable if the map is printed out in Black and White. Mike Young 16:23, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * That would be Red and Green, I think. Aditya (talk • contribs) 02:50, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Judiciary freed from the executive fetters today
please add this to the news. --Tarif from Bangladesh 17:34, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Latest one
...that former Bangladeshi footballer Kazi Salahuddin rode on a cargo plane of the Indian Air Force to reach play in a Swadhin Bangla Football Team game in 1971? Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh 01:31, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * it is removed :( :( :( :(

--Tarif from Bangladesh 02:07, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you. --Tarif from Bangladesh 02:34, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Re:Korotoa River
Thanks for congratulating me, but I've done nothing rather than starting the article with just a few lines. Niyogi dada came to BD and took a lot of books. He basically contributed to the article. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh (talk) 04:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Jagadish Chandra Bose
Thanks for the interest you have taken in Jagadish Chandra Bose. My broadband connection is giving some trouble. Once it is restored, I shall get on to it. Please give me some time. Regards. - P.K.Niyogi (talk) 06:34, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Re:Project
Good idea. Start this topic at bangla_wiki. Encouraging, I know there's a lot of reality to reckon with, but we can still try. Regards--Tarif from Bangladesh (talk) 10:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * we hardly get a chance to meet physically actually, our best place is probably in bangla_wiki@yahoogroups.com where Wikipedians both in and outside of the country share their views. You can let all of them know about your plan there, Ragib Via is also coming to Dhaka for a month next month and planning to a lot of work. An idea like yours can help a lot there. There are actually a lot of dedicated people out there, specially Belayet bhai and Munir Hasan (who also runs the Bangladesh Mathematics Olympiad), they will do whatever they can, Munir sir is also related with Prothom Alo and already wrote a number of Wikipedia related features there. By the way, now I live in Kallyanpur, so more closer to Mirpur now. Bangladesh Open Source Network is backing the bangla_wiki group here and any good and effective idea like yours would have all of their backing. And, for me, I'm always here to help. You'll see a lot of work from me hopefully from this December. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh (talk) 11:14, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your constructive thoughts. I'll post my comments there.--NAHID 19:32, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Replied there.. → Aditya (talk • contribs) 07:41, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Emailed you. --Ragib (talk) 06:08, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

- Alright, here is what I wrote ... (more details in the email)

Hi Arman,

Thanks for the initiative.

I am going to be in BD soon for a visit. So, I can help promote the competition there.

Now, I'm involved with Bangladesh Open Source Network (BDOSN), which is organizing wikicamps, wiki-addas, and campaigns in BD to promote WP. Of course, the focus is more in Bangla Wikipedia. We had a similar idea about starting a competition for Bangla wikipedia ... and we had plans to discuss/organize this while I was in BD. To promote the competition for en-wiki in BD, we'd require very strong media connections, all-out promotions, and possible newspaper/tv articles/programs. I think BDOSN will be very eager to help with this. I don't know if you have read about Munir Hasan, who has single handedly organized the Math Olympiad campaign in the last few years ... he's also the organizer for BDOSN (and the departmental editor for "Bigyan Projonmo" page of Prothom Alo. He can help us a LOT in organizing/promoting this in BD.

So, let me forward the link/proposal to him too, and we can have a combined campaign for both English and Bangla Wikipedia. We can also get more corporate sponsors like Grameen or others to donate a sizable amount to this.

Thanks

--Ragib (talk) 06:28, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll have a look. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh (talk) 05:26, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Wow, good work. What's next. --Tarif from Bangladesh (talk) 09:11, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Luckily I'm not a competitor ;) --Tarif from Bangladesh (talk) 13:41, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Rating of Bangladesh articles
I just noticed that you have rated some of the Bangladesh articles. Please review the rating of Chalan Beel. It is no more a stub. Also can the Bangladesh related articles, which have been in DYK, be posted on the Bangladesh portal - Mahasthangarh with photo, Shitalakshya River wirh photo, and Pundravardhana? You will get the details at my page. Regards - P.K.Niyogi (talk) 03:36, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Presently Haor and Chalan Beel are waiting on the Suggestions page of DYK. I hope that these will also get through. - P.K.Niyogi (talk) 04:10, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Many thanks for your barnstar. I think I have downloded from my mind much of what I wanted to write and posted the pictures, but in the course of time I should be able to contribure a little more. Regards. - P.K.Niyogi 10:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Quick Question
How is Mahfuz Anam [graded 'mid' on scale] (editor of Daily Star) more important than A. K. Faezul Huq [graded 'low' on scale] (former Minister x2, MP x3, lawyer, former Director, and freelance journalist)? The Minister 04:01, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Mahfuz Anam has been reassessed. Arman (Talk) 07:02, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Slideshow template
Thanks for your support on this. I posted some questions on MediaWiki_talk:Common.js and User:Alex Smotrov pointed me to the Village Pump and the previous discussions there. I will raise this again, but I sense there's a lot of opposition from people who think it might be misused. My feeling is that it's a useful template to have, and that any misuse can be controlled by policy. We'll have to see how it goes. Rupert Clayton (talk) 17:35, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I have formally requested the necessary JavaScript functions at Village pump (proposals). Anyone with suggestions or comments on this is welcome to join the discussion there. Thanks. Rupert Clayton (talk) 18:18, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Sheikh Hasina image
I have given the necessary detials on the image, I have emailed the Banglapedia administrator to ask if I can use the image, and has said there is no need for permission, just put the link of the image on the webpage, if information provided is not enough, please verify me of the problems there is concerning on the uploaded image, thankyou. Moshino31 (talk) 12:26, 7 December 2007 (GMT)

Syed Jahangir
Hello brother, I've just started above article.But something went wrong with it (especially, in reference section). The rest of the content is not showing at all. Can you please fix it? Thank you--NAHID 18:20, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I use Mozilla. Yeah, the problem is fixed now :)--NAHID 09:49, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Portal:SAARC/Selected Article/1-Max
Are Portal:SAARC/Selected Article/1-Max and other such pages still needed? --MZMcBride (talk) 21:34, 9 December 2007 (UTC)