User talk:ArmchairVexillologistDon

Your page
Don, I deleted this page because of the publication of a user name that had been changed. You probably know which one, but please don't repeat it here. I was asked to delete only that thread, but unfortunately there are 187 earlier deletions on this page, presumably made for the same reason. To delete the new thread, I would have to undelete the others, and then it would be hard to see what needed to be re-deleted. It's a bit of a bug in the deletion process.

Anyway, in order not to fiddle around, I decided to delete the entire page. Perhaps we could discuss the situaton by e-mail. You may remember roughly when the previous deletions were, so I can look for them more easily. Normally they are visible, but for some reason I'm not seeing them, which could be a problem with my browser, so I may need to ask another admin to help me out. Anyway, that's why the history is missing in case you wondered. I'm very sorry for the confusion. SlimVirgin (talk) 08:05, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello SlimVirgin, I trust you implicitly, and I shan't repeat the "UserName" here ever again. I apologise for doing so.  Anyways, take care and best wishes eh :)


 * ArmchairVexillologistDon 05:23, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

SlimVirgin: What is your opinion on the veracity of my Dominion of Canada article?
Do you feel, upon reading the below, that I am attempting to spread falsehoods about my country ?

Take care, and best wishes,

Don

ArmchairVexillologistDon 05:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

The Dominion of Canada was founded on July 1, 1867, as a Federation of four British Colonies in British North America. The Federal Government structure was divided into the Dominion Government (i.e, the entire country), and the Provincal Government(s) (i.e., the regional sub-units). The original Provinces were the Province of Nova Scotia, Province of New Brunswick, Province of Quebec, and Province of Ontario. This was the first independent country within the British Empire to be granted Dominion Status. This event was codified via the British North America Act 1867, passed by the Imperial Parliament at Westminster (i.e., London, United Kingdom) on March 26, 1867, and coming into effect on July 1, 1867.

== See Also == Canada

No edit wars please
Please post on discussion page before summarily blanking this. Thank you. == Footnotes == --nat Alo! Salut! Sunt eu, un haiduc?!?! 04:17, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Today's edits
Don, I do not object to including the long form names, and they appear in each case in the articles that I have edited today. There is no need for them to appear in each instance in the same article. That make the text unnecessarily long-winded. We do not use "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northn Ireland" in the United Kingdom article in every instance, only in the first line.. After that, it is understood that the short form name is sufficient. Also, there is no United Province of Canada article: this is a redirect to Province of Canada. Per WP:CONTEXT, repeating links is discouraged, except in long articles where it may be appropriate to repeat a link once. Ground Zero | t 20:29, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, do you have a reference for calling Canada East and Canada West "districts"? I have never seen that before. I am inclined to believe you, but I'd like to see a reference. Thanks. Ground Zero | t 20:32, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * here and here are the references. nat.utoronto 20:44, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this. the fact that Google comes up with effectively only one reference for each so-called long form name convinces me that these names did not exist. I don't think that someone's memoirs are an authoritative source. I think that if they existed, JMS Careless and Jacques Monet would have mentioned them in their Canadian Encyclopedia articles (see Talk:Province of Canada for links.) Ground Zero | t 23:03, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello Ground Zero.

The Province of Canada had the alternate long-form name of the United Province of Canada, as cited in the first sentence of the article.

Next up, the tradition of Canada is to have Provinces and Territories. The tradition of America is to have States/Commonwealths (i.e., the same Rank) and Territories. The next lowest sub-division is a District. In other words Provinces are divided into Districts, States/Commonwealths are divided into Districts, and Territories are divided into Districts.

Within the Districts of Provinces, States/Commonwealths, the next lowest sub-division is Counties.

Examples

(1). The United Province of Canada was sub-divided into the District of Canada West, and the District of Canada East.

(2). The Northwest Territories were sub-divided into the many Districts of the Northwest Territories.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Districts_of_Northwest_Territories

(3). The Commonwealth of Massachusetts a State of the US, possessed a District of Maine, which later separated and became the State of Maine in 1820.

(4). The Commonwealth of Virginia a State of the US, possessed a District of Kentucky, which later separated and became the Commonwealth of Kentucky a State of the US in 1792.


 * District of Kentucky


 * http://usgenmap.rootsweb.com/us1783.htm


 * "Virginia included West Virginia, the "District of Kentucky" and claimed the Central/Southern portions of Illinois, Indiana and Ohio."

ArmchairVexillologistDon (talk) 21:32, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

1. I don't disagree that the Province of Canada was also called the United Province of Canada. The point that I am making is only about linking. The article is called Province of Canada and that's how it should be linked. United Province of Canada is a redirect page to Proovince of canada (you can check this for yourself) so it makes no sense to link to it, especially when Province of Canada has alreaedy been linked earlier in the article.

2. Do you have any reference for the names "District of Canada West" and "District of Canada East" ever being used by anyone at the time? The fact that you providedno reference for (1) in the evidence you've presented above suggests to me that this is an entirely ex post construction (that, by the way, qualifies as original research you bad boy). If no one used it at the time, it is absolutely incorrect to create those labels now. I am really hoping that you can provide some reference indicating that this is something more than your own construction. Ground Zero | t 22:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I think this discussion should take place on an article talk page instead of your talk page so that others can weigh in. I have begun the discussion here. Regards, Ground Zero | t 22:58, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Long-form name of "Province of Quebec", ou "Province du Quebec" en francais
Hello Ramdrake.
 * long-form name: Province of Quebec, Province du Quebec
 * short-form name: Quebec.
 * These are facts.


 * Fine, then it should be simple enough to provide citations to this effect.--Ramdrake (talk) 00:27, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Try the British North America Acts (1867-1975).

ArmchairVexillologistDon (talk) 00:29, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Please do not add content without citing reliable sources. Before making potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. If you are familiar with Citing sources please take this opportunity to add your original reference to the article. Contact me if you need assistance adding references. Tomj (talk) 14:26, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

January 2008
Please do not add unsourced or original content. Doing so violates Wikipedia's verifiability policy. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Ckatz chat spy  22:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The Province of British Columbia is the long-form name of British Columbia. That fact is contained (i.e., sourced) in many Constitutional Documents of Canada.


 * ArmchairVexillologistDon (talk) 23:05, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Can you please cite even one of the "many consitutional documents of Canada" that officially state that the "long-form names" of the provinces are prefaced by "Province Of"? I've looked, and turned up nothing. RobHutten (talk) 23:29, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


 * You have not "tryed" very hard. Look up the British North America Acts (1867-1975).  They were later re-titled the Constitution Acts, consolidated into the Canada Act 1982.  They were retitled, but the CONTENTS of the statutes (i.e., the references to the "Province of" in the long-form name(s)) ARE STILL there.


 * Additionally, one province in specific recently (in 2001 I believe), formally changed its name from the Province of Newfoundland to the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador.


 * ArmchairVexillologistDon (talk) 23:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I've searched through both the [Constitution Acts of 1867 and 1982](http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/const/) and I don't see anything defining the provinces' official names as including the "Province Of" prefix. Could the confusion come from the older style of capitalization used in the documents (c.f. "The Salaries of the Lieutenant Governors")? I see no proof of a formal, federally-recognized "long form" of the provinces' names. RobHutten (talk) 23:50, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Please don't change anymore provinces while the discussion is ongoing. You still haven't proved that any of them are common (and none are preferred). By the way, in publications it's "Province of Saskatchewan" because "Province" is being used as a proper noun. Not because it's official. -Royalguard11 (T·R!) 00:13, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Look it Royalguard11 ... the long-form name is the Province of Saskatchewan, and the short-form name is Saskatchewan.

Frankly, I am fed-up with Wikipedia, and you folkes can all "go-rot".

ArmchairVexillologistDon (talk) 03:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Ckatz chat spy  09:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I am not particularly scaried of you. Your manner is rude and offensive.  I am suprised that you don't get more "colourful-messages" thrown your way.  You certainly have a fortay for supressing historical "long-form names" of Provinces.


 * ArmchairVexillologistDon (talk) 10:39, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Wait! You still haven't demonstrated anything! Provide us with reliable sources please. Tomj (talk) 15:00, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous
Don: are you aware that twice now you (or someone) have made anonymous contributions to Talk:Canada while adding your signature to the contributions. You may find you are being logged out by Wikipedia. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Irritating the crap out of people
As a user reasonably said, debates about Canada's name should be held on a talk page. I am frankly not interested in discussing it with you. I have followed your contributions for many years now. It is incontrovertible that the government of Canada considers the full name of Canada to be "Canada". You are welcome to hold your own opinion about Canada's name, but any attempt to insert that opinion into Wikipedia, in obvious opposition to well-sourced statements, would properly be considered vandalism. Your attempts to start debates about the name, when you know what the result will be, are disruptive to Wikipedia. You could reasonably be blocked for continuing to do so. DJ Clayworth (talk) 21:15, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Let me remind you again, Don. Your continued edits claiming that Canada is really called Dominion of Canada are disruptive, and disruptive edits are cause for a block. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:38, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm trying to imagine our national anthem as O Dominion of Canada.... GoodDay (talk) 17:59, 15 September 2008 (UTC)


 * "God Bless America", or "God Bless the United States of America"?


 * ArmchairVexillologistDon (talk) 134.117.137.37 (talk) 02:39, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm trying to get my head around the Montral Dominion-of-Canadiens. DJ Clayworth (talk) 20:43, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Ahem .... that's Canadien Dominion.

Quite.

ArmchairVexillologistDon (talk) 134.117.137.37 (talk) 02:39, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Getting your username back
continuing from Talk:Canada:

Don, I believe by normal procedure, you must create a new account What if I forget the password?. The WP:USURP procedure for taking over a user name does not seem to fit your situation. You may try asking a Bureaucrat as they do have the authority to usurp accounts. Double Blue (Talk) 21:08, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Howdy DoubleBlue.


 * Thank you very much for your kind concern and advice. I'm gonna think about making a new user-name account.  It seems that this is only only to restore the "nervous-nelly's" (I mean who would want impersonate me?  I'm not "Mr  Popular" eh) fragile fascade of "Wiki-Peace".


 * I'll figure out what I want to keep for my "new" user-name page.


 * Thanks again, and take care eh,


 * Don ("Mr. Wiki-Popular!")


 * ArmchairVexillologistDon (talk) 134.117.137.98 (talk) 00:21, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Not really wiki related at all (are you still alive)
Hello there Don! Its me, Mackie. I havent heard of you for a good while so I dedided I should try to hunt you down because none of your old contacts such as email addresses seem to be working anymore these days. I thought I should pop in on wikis red ensign discussion and lo and behold youre there :p So if youre still amonst the ranks of the living do drop me a line or two (if you so wish) by email, to themackie@gmail.com
 * Mackie - 25.1.2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.85.155.107 (talk) 19:35, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

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