User talk:Arnoutf/Archives/2023

The Bugle: Issue 201, January 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 202, February 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 203, March 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 204, April 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 206, June 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 207, July 2023
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Etniciteit en CBS
Hi Arnout, I don't think the CBS is in charge of the English language. What constitutes a 'Dutch' person is not decided by some statistician, rather the general population. Friendly Greetings, NeoRetro (talk) 16:55, 3 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes it may be but the numbers of the CBS can ONLY be used following the definition CBS uses. Otherwise you use counts that do not relate to the way the numbers were calculated which makes the numbers invalid. Arnoutf (talk) 17:03, 3 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I used the definitions of the CBS. Please notify me if I don't. NeoRetro (talk) 17:05, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes on closer reading you did, although the reading is a bit awkward now. But that is indeed due to the awkward CBS definition. They use that one to avoid having e.g. visual characteristics (like skin colour), and other subjective (and controversial) ways to define Dutch ethnicity to be taken into account. It does result in some odd cases (which are a minute number I guess) where e.g. children of 2 couples with no Dutch ties, giving birth to kids in the Netherlands (e.g. during a 1 year expat period) getting children together would get Dutch children, while a child born from a couple with centuries of Dutch ancestry born during a short holiday abroad would not count (of course rare cases which do not relevantly change statistics (percentages)). Arnoutf (talk) 17:24, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 208, August 2023
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Are you still around?
I looked at the revision history of this page and it seems there recently have only been "bugle" additions. If you are still active I'd like to call your attention to my "Clarion call" on the Talk-page of the WikiProject Netherlands in connection with the mis-capitalization of Dutch surnames and what to do about it. I hope you are interested. Ereunetes (talk) 20:20, 8 June 2023 (UTC)


 * From your activities I infer that you are still around after all. Or resurrected? You just graded my Abel Tassin d'Alonne article and judged my prose lacking. We exactly need someone with your linguistic abilities to join me in the crusade for the correct capitalization of Dutch surnames. The Fatherland Needs You. May I count on you? Ereunetes (talk) 22:48, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Generative AI and Wikipedia research
Hi Arnoutf, My name is Dr. Tim Koskie and I am a researcher at the Centre for Media Transition (CMT) at the University of Technology Sydney (UTS). We are conducting a study on the implications of content-generating AI systems such as ChatGPT for knowledge integrity on Wikipedia, and are approaching you because you have participated in discussions on this topic on Wikimedia pages. If you are interested, we would like to invite you to participate in our study. It would involve joining either a focus group discussion or an interview (around 1 hour), in person at Wikimania in Singapore if you are going to be there, or online at a future date. At these sessions we would ask you questions about how you think generative AI will impact Wikipedia, as well as about the kinds of work you do on Wikipedia. The project is funded by the Wikimedia Research Fund grant programme. You can find out more about the project here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Implications_of_ChatGPT_for_knowledge_integrity_on_Wikipedia If you are interested, let me know and I will forward you some more detailed information on the project. Tbkoskie (talk) 01:59, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 209, September 2023
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Your sudden enthusiasm for rating articles and making snide remarks
Dear Arnout, I noticed that you rated a number of articles I (often in a distant past) wrote (those evaluations were often far overdue) and that you accompanied your grading with snide remarks about lacking references or inferior sourcing, not to mention alleged grammatical or spelling shortcomings without going into detail on what you alleged. I wonder, if you find such fault with those articles, would it not be a good idea if you took it upon yourself to improve the shortcomings you think you found? I would then gladly volunteer to evaluate your work. How many new articles did you initiate of late, by the way? Ereunetes (talk) 22:05, 7 September 2023 (UTC)


 * actual scientificpapers more than wiki articles. But no kidding.... yes I rated a number and included a remark which element would need most attention for higher classification than I gave.. I.e as helpful suggestion where to put most effort. Not intended as sniding, sad it comes across as such will try to phrase more carefully. Regretfully I have neither time nor energy to dig into the sourcing. Arnoutf (talk) 17:21, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Don't take me wrong. I appreciate constructive criticism. And I don't think I am infallible. But if you clothe your criticism in generalities, and put it in the comment space of the rating-revision you make, that is not very helpful. If you really want to help improve the article, put your specific criticism in a post on the relevant talk-page. And look at the follow up. I often do incorporate criticisms of raters, but it is disappointing then if they don't reward that with an upgrade of the rating. Probably because they don't revisit the article. Ereunetes (talk) 22:38, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks make sense - and indeed my intention was to point them towards improvement and if done well indeed upgraded rating. Will do my best to put in a bit more effort in constructive talk page comments. Best Arnoutf (talk) 15:07, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Maybe you could start with King's Dutch Brigade, which you recently rated. I first wrote that article in 2013. It was first rated in 2015 (C-class) And you recently added another C-class (for the Netherlands project I guess). So I have long since forgotten what it was all about (though I suspect I slyly wanted to expose the Orangist crowd, as I at around the same time wrote Dutch Brigade (Peninsular War) which had more my sympathy :-) Since then I have become a bit more neutral. It appears that in 2017 a bot complained about the sources. I'll look into that. But I am curious about what you didn't like about the sources yourself, as you also complain about them? Ereunetes (talk) 19:57, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I have looked at the King's Dutch Brigade article, updated a number of the urls (there was one dead one) and noted that others have put in footnotes without the appropriate references. And I can do nothing about that. But I have put general plea on the talk-page to supply the two references that are most obviously lacking. Ereunetes (talk) 21:23, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Apologies
I apologize for allowing myself to be dragged into that debacle on the Dutch people talkpage and contributing to it. Having looked through the users history he seems to have a long history of editwarring and non-constructive posting as well as some bans and APIs/warnings for this sort of stuff. I will divert my energies to more productive endeavors in future and be more concise when it comes to these issues. 2.99.80.154 (talk) 13:23, 16 September 2023 (UTC)


 * It might help if you signed your posts. Just a suggestion. Ereunetes (talk) 20:48, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Edit reversion
Hello: I recently noticed that you had reverted an edit of mine for the List of countries with multiple capitals article — I've also noticed that said reversion describes the former in needlessly antagonistic terms as an "utter nonsensical edit." Additionally, I take issue with the action on account of it reversing all of the other changes made aside from the error such as correcting capitalisation: would it not have been more sensible to have addressed the error alone as opposed to removing everything? In any case, I have since revised the area in question.

On another note, to answer your question "(if such thing [the term administrative capital] exists)," then look no further than other countries in which their legislative bodies are not located in the capital (with that area in question being referred to as the legislative capital) such as South Africa: it's possible that I may have made a mistake in that regard, the term nonetheless still exists. TDB579 (talk) 20:29, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 210, October 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 211, November 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 212, December 2023
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