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Hello Arsenal Fan700,I came to know that you are one of the editor of indian football pages and currently you are editing the wiki page of ATK Mohun Bagan FC. Currently there is a ongoing discussion on Mohun Bagan AC's wiki page to change its name.Some are saying ATK Mohun Bagan is a continuation of Mohun Bagan.Some are saying it is a continuation of ATK FC.But we know that ATKMB FC is a very new club and i have 2 interviews of directors of ATK Mohun Bagan Pvt.ltd. The first interview is of Utsav Parek where he confirmed that ATK Mohun Bagan Fc is a new club founded in 2020.When a fan asked about inclusion of 1889 in the logo,The exact words of Mr.Parek was "The club has been created today then how can we write founded 1889 in the logo,it is legally not correct." Here is the link of the interview Dated July 11,Time stamp 26:42

https://www.facebook.com/DigitalMediaIdeas/videos/738400133657162/ The second interview is of Debashis Dutta where he also confirmed that ATK Mohun Bagan Fc is a new club founded in 2020.When the interviewer asked him about including 1889 in the logo the exact words of Mr.Dutta was "ATK Mohun Bagan is a avatar of Mohun Bagan but the foundation year of ATKMB is not same as Mohun Bagan.1889 is the foundation year of Mohun Bagan not of ATK Mohun Bagan.How can we legally write 1889 in the logo?Mohun Bagan was founded in 1889 but ATK Mohun Bagan has been created in 2020" Here is the link of the interview Dated july 15,Time stamp 23:18

https://www.facebook.com/DigitalMediaIdeas/videos/288622845552479/

So when the directors are confirming that ATK Mohun Bagan FC is a new club founded in 2020 so there is no point of discussion.My kind request to you to create a new page for ATK Mohun Bagan FC. And being an editor if you include this points in the ongoing discussion on Mohun Bagan AC's wiki page it will be very helpful to establish our point that it is a new club founded in 2020. Thank you BarcelonaFan995 (talk) 05:14, 20 October 2020 (UTC)] __________________________________      Hello Arsenal Fan700,Thanks for including those interviews of Utasav Parekh and Debashis Dutta in the ongoing discussion on Mohun Bagan AC's wiki page. Here I have another information regarding this matter.whenever we start discussing on ATK Mohun Bagan, the one point Mohun Bagan fans have is that as ATK Mohun Bagan will take part in AFC Cup 2021 a slot which was provided to Mohun Bagan so ATK Mohun Bagan is a continuation of Mohun Bagan but today I have found an article regarding this matter and the article is not from a small media house it was published by [Goal.com],world's largest online football publication. Link of the article https://www.goal.com/en-in/news/explained-three-afc-slots-for-2021-isl-indian-football/1xzum00p0va021r20k40t9ruym And there they have clearly said ""as Mohun Bagan have entered into a merger with ATK and will form a new club which will come into effect from june 2020,their AFC cup slot will now be availed by the newly formed ATK Mohun Bagan FC"" ""If they decides not to take the slot then it will go to the Ileague runners-up.Even if ATK wins the playoff they are likely to take up the slot that Mohun Bagan has earned as it provides them a direct entry into the group stage."" So it is very clear from the article that the decision was taken by the management itself which slot to take and which to giveup.so taking the slot of AFC cup group stage which was earned by Mohun Bagan does not mean that ATK Mohun Bagan is a continuation of Mohun Bagan.It was totally upto them which slot they want take as the group stage slot provides a direct entry into the AFC cup ATK Mohun Bagan decided to take that and leftover the AFC cup play off slot which was later provided to Bengaluru FC. If you could add this points in the ongoing discussion on Mohun Bagan AC's wiki page it will be very helpful to prove that taking a slot earned by Mohun Bagan does not mean ATK Mohun Bagan a continuation of Mohun Bagan. Thanks BarcelonaFan995 (talk) 03:56, 21 October 2020 (UTC)] __________________________________ Hello ArsenalFan700, here i am listing all the sources that prove ATK Mohun Bagan FC is a new club and need a new article on wikipedia. 1.official merger announcement where it is clearly written that they will form a new club.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7YWo5cpkcA/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

2.About section of ATKMB's facebook page claiming it is a new club.

https://m.facebook.com/pg/atkmohunbaganfc/about/?ref=page_internal&mt_nav=0

3.Interviews of directors and co-owners claiming it is a new club.

https://www.facebook.com/DigitalMediaIdeas/videos/288622845552479/ https://www.facebook.com/DigitalMediaIdeas/videos/738400133657162/

4.Goal.com,world's largest online football publication's report on how ATKMB can still play in AFC CUP being a new club.

https://www.goal.com/en-in/news/explained-three-afc-slots-for-2021-isl-indian-football/1xzum00p0va021r20k40t9ruym

5.A reputed media house NEWS18's article on ATKMB have no previous records and have to start from the zero.

http://news18.com/news/sports/indian-super-league-2020-21-to-kick-off-from-november-20-in-goa-2990645.html

6.Transfermarkt.com a reputed football related website having a new page for ATKMB with no previous records claiming its a brand new club.they still have two separate pages one for Mohun Bagan and one for ATK FC.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.in/atk-mohun-bagan-fc/transfers/verein/83266

7.'Hero ISL Champions 2019-20' is embroided on the jersey and training kits of ATKMB.it proves that history of ATK is a integral part of ATKMB.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkNiJcIX0AASZEu?format=jpg&name=large

8.In the official website of Hero ISL ATK FC has been rebranded as ATKMB FC.

https://www.indiansuperleague.com/standings

9.RPSG Group's website where both the logos of ATK FC and Mohun Bagan AC has been removed and replaced with the new logo of ATKMB.if ATKMB is a rebranded version of Mohun Bagan then the logo of ATK FC should have been there as they still have the logo of Rising Pune Supergiant,their IPL team that is currently dissolved.

https://www.rpsg.in/business/rpsgsports

10.And also the Office address of ATKMB is Topsia not Maidan. ATKMB does not pick any bid paper they are still using the old bid paper of ATK. when players like Roy,Prabir,Edu had signed for the club they termed it as 'extension' and when players like Sahil had signed for the club they termed it as 'new signing'.

When the club itself claiming that ATKMB is a new club,when the owners and directors are claiming that ATKMB is a new club,when both Indian and foreign media houses are claiming that its a new club why wikipedia still does not have a separate article on ATK Mohun Bagan FC? It is my kind request to you that it is the right time to create a new article on ATK Mohun Bagan FC as Hero ISL is going to start in less than a month. ThanksBarcelonaFan995 (talk) 16:29, 24 October 2020 (UTC)]

Thanks
Hi Arsenalfan700,thank for removing East Bengal content from 2020-21 ISL page. It was quite frustrating reverting the East Bengal content and then founding it back. Now problem is gone. Thank you.Falcon with appendix (talk) 13:16, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

continuation from MB talkpage
Yo ArsenalFan. I discussed regarding this with CaptainEek in his talkpage. Although he couldn't help much directly on the thing, as he isn't much into sports, but he provided suggestions on what should be our next step. Do check his talk page. Also, I have jotted down the whole thing happened since January in his talkpage. Lets wait, till they launch their website.  ❯❯❯  S A H A   19:32, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I am not gonna discuss in MB talkpage anymore. It's of no use. Better to collect data, report the meatpuppets and prepare for RfC (starting it afresh). What do you think?  ❯❯❯  S A H A   06:22, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Roaster Changes
For consistency other seasons' tranfer pages needed to to be renamed too. Drat8sub (talk) 18:10, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes and no. The 2014 through 2017–18 acted with a different system for making signings than we do in 2020–21. Players signing with IMG-Reliance and then moving to ISL teams through the draft, occasionally non-draftees etc. 2018–19 and 2019–20 should be changed for sure though. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 18:19, 29 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Ah yeah, correct, then for these preceeding two season can be changed. And please check the other thread in my talk page, these guys need help with the article. I mean basically they are pushing for GAN. Already requested at GOCER, I think you can take care of the rest, because they started asking what to do next and how to make correction with Mos and ref. thing I think its not feasible. Better if you go for the GAN you self, since u r the main contributor. Drat8sub (talk) 18:38, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw those. I'll need to make time to help there so might be awhile. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 18:40, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Deletion of Ishaan Sahi
I have used reliable sources to create that article. Could you please explain me what is the wrong thing in that article. And please help me to develop the article and how can I remove the deletion banner. Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 14:00, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Regarding atk mohunbagan fc
Hi bro See this link Some info about atk mohunbagan club from the owner itself https://www.rpsg.in/business/rpsgsports It clearly says that both club merged and will play as one from isl 2020-21 season onwards Abhishe78 (talk) 19:18, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Please remove the flag you have added in Ishaan Sahi
I have fixed some references. I used reliable sources in the article. So please do not delete the page. There are not many enough news on Ishaan Sahi. So please help me to develop the article. Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 05:10, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Use of Bengali in East Bengal wiki
Since you have asked, some top clubs like Al Ain, Persepolis, Antlers, etc does use native languages in wiki, I don't see any harm either. Coderdaddy1369 (talk) 08:16, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , read MOS:IS  ❯❯❯  S A H A   17:49, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for Information
Thank you for those information on the article Ishaan Sahi. But it's fact that there are a few news on Ishaan Sahi on internet. So I could not manage enough data to create that article. But now, will it be possible to survive the article if I remove those uncertain references of sources that you have mentioned? If not, then could you please suggest me some sites/ sources that are really suitable for Wikipedia reference. Thank you. Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 10:33, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Idrissa Niang
Hi. Why is this exploitation of your privileges against the page that I created, and I am making changes to it? You repeated sabotage activity that some people did against the page and deleted the full name of the player. For example: The article name and full name Granit Xhaka installed were fixed in the same way.Mr. Port (talk) 05:58, 3 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Including the "full name" when nothing other than what is at the top of the info box is common to most pages here and is not limited to this page. Take, for example: Bernd Leno, Kieran Tierney, Bukayo Saka, ...etc. The player is still available to play for the national team at this point,, take the example of Héctor Bellerín . I don't think it takes all this to overdo it with me. Mr. Port (talk) 06:49, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Removing Palamos CF Data and citation from Ishaan Sahi
Hey, will it be possible to retain the article if I remove Palamos CF a from Ishaan Sahi's career and Personal Life along with the references used with respect to the data and keep only current status (i.e. 2nd Division League statistics only) of his career ? And further I will keep my watchful eye on notability guidelines for creating such article. Thank you for your help. Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 12:31, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Correction and review of Ishan Pandita
Earlier the page Ishan Pandita was detected as notability guideline was not followed thoroughly. But now I have improved the article with absolute citations and reliable sources. But I have not published it. It is in my sandbox https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Debabrata_Sarkar_Mejbill/sandbox. Please check the article in my sandbox and please tell me whether it is suitable for Wikipedia if not then please help me how can I improve that. Thank you. Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 09:12, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Deletion of Luca Soccer Club's page
Hi,

Why did you delete our Wikipedia page? Waivaws (talk) 14:44, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Read WP:FOOTYN and WP:GNG. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 15:03, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

ATKMB thing
What about the next step or any update on that from your side?  ❯❯❯  S A H A   15:08, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Waiting one more week but it will involve Be bold. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 19:03, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ok. notify me whenever you start the RfC... Stay Safe   ❯❯❯  S A H A   07:12, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Why would we need to create a new page when we have a page with the same name that exists? Are you going to rename the Mohun Bagan? I don't think it's going to happen. There are two ways: either overturn the merger or rename the ATK football club.-- Akhiljaxxn (talk) 18:44, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I would just wait. If this is to be done it needs to happen in a way where the situation is mentioned clearly. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 01:29, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , creating a new page, here refers to reverting the merger discussion. Technically it's still the continuation of ATK. Also, I tried messaging ATKMB in social media, for their opinion on this. But, nothing came.  Saha ❯❯❯  Stay safe    19:04, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Tell your Opinion
An admin has place gng tag in the article of West Block Blues now and it has been proposed to merge.As you were in previous afd and merger discussion please tell your opinion there. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:West_Block_Blues#Merge_Request WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 04:46, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Women's Football / Soccer Update > October 2020
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Mumbai city logo
They will not announce it we can see when season starts which colour logo and kit will they use... then you can come and change it.. 🤦‍♂️ Insane1212 (talk) 08:18, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

creation of neglected pages
Hi arsenalfan. It came to my notice that the pages current seasons of northeast and jamshedpur aen't created. I thought that you are a expierienced editor,so you mightt help in this issue. Please try to create those articles. Thank you.122.177.127.183 (talk) 16:32, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Current season of Jamshedpur
Hi Arsenalfan700,though I certainly am not Jamshedpur fan,stil for good of Indian football,can you please make a page on current season of Jamshedpur? This is the most neglected club. There is not even the page of 2019-20 season. So if we failed to make its previous season page,at least we can make its current season page. I asked you as I'm a novice and don't know much about article creation.Falcon with appendix (talk) 05:22, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

To create a new page for ATK Mohun Bagan FC
ATK Mohun Bagan FC is not a continuation of Mohun Bagan.I have two interviews of directors of ATK Mohun Bagan pvt.ltd. The first interview is of Utsav Parek where he clearly said that ATK Mohun Bagan FC is a new club founded in 2020. Here is the link of the interview Dated July 11, Time stamp 26:42

https://www.facebook.com/DigitalMediaIdeas/videos/738400133657162/

The second interview is of Debashis Dutta where he also confirmed that 1889 is not the foundation year of ATK Mohun Bagan FC. Here is the link of interview Dated July 15, Time stamp 23:18

https://www.facebook.com/DigitalMediaIdeas/videos/288622845552479/

So my kind request to you to create a new wiki page for ATK Mohun Bagan FC and if you could add this points in the ongoing discussion on Mohun Bagan AC's wiki page about changing its name it will be very helpful to establish our poin that ATK Mohun Bagan is a new club founded in 2020. When the directors of ATK Mohun Bagan pvt.ltd. are confirming that it is a new club founded in 2020 there is no point of discussion about the foundation year anymore. Thanks BarcelonaFan995 (talk) 05:42, 20 October 2020 (UTC)]

Here is the link of the article that was published by GOAL.COM world's largest online football publication. https://www.goal.com/en-in/news/explained-three-afc-slots-for-2021-isl-indian-football/1xzum00p0va021r20k40t9ruym There they have clearly said that taking a slot of AFC Cup group stage which was earned by Mohun Bagan does not mean that ATK Mohun Bagan a continuation of Mohun Bagan.It was totally upto the management which slot to take and which one to giveup as the slot earned by Mohun Bagan provides a direct entry into the group stage of AFC Cup 2021 ATK Mohun Bagan decided to take that slot and gaveup the AFC Cup play off slot earned by ATK FC which was latter provided to Bengaluru FC. The management of ATK Mohun Bagan had two options infront of them (a) AFC cup group stage (b) AFC cup play offs and they went with the first one. BarcelonaFan995 (talk) 04:10, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello ArsenalFan700, here i am listing all the sources that prove ATK Mohun Bagan FC is a new club and need a new article on wikipedia. 1.official merger announcement where it is clearly written that they will form a new club. https://www.instagram.com/p/B7YWo5cpkcA/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link 2.About section of ATKMB's facebook page claiming it is a new club. https://m.facebook.com/pg/atkmohunbaganfc/about/?ref=page_internal&mt_nav=0 3.Interviews of directors and co-owners claiming it is a new club. https://www.facebook.com/DigitalMediaIdeas/videos/288622845552479/ https://www.facebook.com/DigitalMediaIdeas/videos/738400133657162/ 4.Goal.com,world's largest online football publication's report on how ATKMB can still play in AFC CUP being a new club. https://www.goal.com/en-in/news/explained-three-afc-slots-for-2021-isl-indian-football/1xzum00p0va021r20k40t9ruym 5.A reputed media house NEWS18's article on ATKMB have no previous records and have to start from the zero. http://news18.com/news/sports/indian-super-league-2020-21-to-kick-off-from-november-20-in-goa-2990645.html 6.Transfermarkt.com a reputed football related website having a new page for ATKMB with no previous records claiming its a brand new club.they still have two separate pages one for Mohun Bagan and one for ATK FC. https://www.transfermarkt.co.in/atk-mohun-bagan-fc/transfers/verein/83266 7.'Hero ISL Champions 2019-20' is embroided on the jersey and training kits of ATKMB.it proves that history of ATK is a integral part of ATKMB. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkNiJcIX0AASZEu?format=jpg&name=large 8.In the official website of Hero ISL ATK FC has been rebranded as ATKMB FC. https://www.indiansuperleague.com/standings 9.RPSG Group's website where both the logos of ATK FC and Mohun Bagan AC has been removed and replaced with the new logo of ATKMB.if ATKMB is a rebranded version of Mohun Bagan then the logo of ATK FC should have been there as they still have the logo of Rising Pune Supergiant,their IPL team that is currently dissolved. https://www.rpsg.in/business/rpsgsports 10.And also the Office address of ATKMB is Topsia not Maidan. ATKMB does not pick any bid paper they are still using the old bid paper of ATK. when players like Roy,Prabir,Edu had signed for the club they termed it as 'extension' and when players like Sahil had signed for the club they termed it as 'new signing'. When the club itself claiming that ATKMB is a new club,when the owners and directors are claiming that ATKMB is a new club,when both Indian and foreign media houses are claiming that its a new club why wikipedia still does not have a separate article on ATK Mohun Bagan FC? It is my kind request to you that it is the right time to create a new article on ATK Mohun Bagan FC as Hero ISL is going to start in less than a month. BarcelonaFan995 (talk) 17:24, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello ArsenalFan700, Currently there is a ongoing discussion on Mohun Bagan AC's wiki talk page to create a new page for ATK Mohun Bagan FC.As you are a very experienced editor and you also took part in the last discussion on that page we need your valuable thoughts on this matter.My kind request to you to take part in the discussion and put your thoughts on this matter. (BarcelonaFan995 (talk) 12:08, 27 October 2020 (UTC))

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Bengaluru FC
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Gokulam Kerala FC
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List of Indian football champions
Sinan 2004 repeatedly vandalises the List of Indian football champions. Please correct the page SAIKAT MARINERS DEY (talk) 15:37, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't see a lot of that but I will revamp the page when I can. Thanks for the heads up! Cheers. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 15:42, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

You should also warn Sinan 2004. He has vandalised this page multiple times. I have repeatedly talked with him but he still doesn't hear me.SAIKAT MARINERS DEY (talk) 16:26, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

ATK Mohun Bagan and Mohun Bagan
If ATK MOHUN BAGAN win ISL championship this year then how will I put ATK MOHUN BAGAN in the Total titles won section of List of Indian football champions ? I will put them with Mohun Bagan or differently put Their name. Then will be that championship their first championship or 6th championship (including Mohun Bagan's 5 championships)? I'm confused. SAIKAT MARINERS DEY (talk) 17:50, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

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Lisandro López
Hello there, how's everything?

Don't worry (regarding this article), now we will have all unpiped clubs in storyline except for one (never understood the fuss regarding this preference, when it's not blatantly going against any guideline; at least, i do believe so).

But if you dare pipe several German clubs (WP:KARLSRUHER) or the Vancouver Whitecaps or the Columbus Crew, they tell you you are in the wrong and get reverted. So much for coherence, i guess...

Happy editing, all the best! --85.243.89.253 (talk) 20:37, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

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