User talk:Art 281

June 2011
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 * You have got it right now. Well done. - Sitush (talk) 17:31, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Beauty pageant articles
Hi, I thought I would just drop you a note. You and I had a rough start regarding various beauty pageant articles but these last few days you have been doing some very good work. It is much appreciated, especially since I have next to no interest in the subject & am happy to see that someone else with a sense of diligence is prepared to share some of the load. Well done! - Sitush (talk) 00:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank You! I'm a pageant fanatic :D! And the good thing is that the Miss Universe article is locked, because wow before there was just so much false information with no sources. Art 281 (talk) 00:37, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * No problem. You reap what you sow here, and diligent contributors are always a real positive. If you have any problems then just drop me a line. I will keep an eye on the articles but you are probably better placed than me to deal with much of the content. As you say, they are a bit of a nightmare when it comes to citing sources. If you come across any where there is some serious warring going on, or multiple breaches of the biography of living people policies, then don't be scared to ask for semi-protection. We do not like to protect any articles in any manner, but sometimes these things have to be done. - Sitush (talk) 00:42, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
OMG! Thank you so MUCH!!!!!!!! :D!!!!!!!!

Art 281 (talk) 18:20, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

No problem. :) DeshintaChandra (talk) 10:04, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Miss Earth 2011
Sorry to bother you, I need your help now. It seems that someone has just made vandalism in Miss Earth 2011 page. Please help me to remove the edits that users has made. He added some contestants that wasn't listed in the Miss Earth official website. Thanks for your help. DeshintaChandra (talk) 13:36, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, the user is still adding the Miss Earth 2011 contestants that wasn't listed in the Miss Earth official website, perhaps you should report this to administrator to block the IP address to prevent disruptive edits. DeshintaChandra (talk) 11:00, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

November 2011
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did at Miss Universe 2009, you may be blocked from editing. Coekon (talk) 05:15, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

January 2012
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December 2012
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Miss Universe 2013: Georgia
Please, don't add her again. The sources you use for the addition of Janeta Kerdikoshvili as "Miss Georgia" in Miss Universe 2013 are fakes! If you don't have clear the info from a source, use a translator or use the talk page. --Alex Duilius (talk) 05:37, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my mistake. I saw more carefuly the text at the sources and I can see the relation. But I still think are not a good sources, i'm looking for better.--Alex Duilius (talk) 07:33, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

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Contestants
There are still many contestants like Sierra Leone, Ethiopia, Iraq, Romania to be announced. Moreover it is today that your source says that Austria has given up license. Till yesterday it was very much clear that Izabela was Miss Universe's representative It was us who didn't add Austria to the list Yuval Krish goyal (talk) 17:03, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Sierra Leone controversy
Hi Art 281, the countries on the withdrawal list for Miss Universe 2018 is already complete, although you could help us to confirm whether Sierra Leone will be returning this year. We have discovered that Pageant Daily is only a link to an Instagram account and is NOT a legitimate source. The Instagram photo does not prove that Marie Esther Bangura is the winning delegate. In fact, Sierra Leone has not been announced on any other reputable site as participating. I have already tried to contact the Award Goes To and Missosology websites to confirm whether Ms. Bangura will be the representative. This is the only country in question at the moment. If Sierra Leone does not participate, the final tally of countries should be brought down to 94. Thank you for any additional assistance you can provide. Michael --Rahu22 (talk) 02:53, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Michael, I've tried to look up sources that confirm Sierra Leone's crowning of their representative but the only thing I found was that Instagram post picture. I am going to go ahead and remove Sierra Leone from the list of contestants, thus will be editing the number of contestants to 94 by adding "94 contestants have been confirmed so far" or something like that. However, as of right now Sierra Leone is supposed to compete at this year's pageant so the number 95 should remained on the text at the beginning of the article if that makes sense. Art 281 (talk) 03:39, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Sounds good, we'll wait and see what happens. They didn't participate last year, so I wouldn't be surprised if they don't this year. Thank you! --Rahu22 (talk) 03:51, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Common Name issue
Hi Art, be forewarned of editor jjj1238, she has a habit of changing the pageant country names. I argued with her for HOURS over Slovak Republic vs. Slovakia and she also changed Korea to South Korea. She insists on following Wikipedia rules and guidelines, but I don't think she should be able to alter pageant history in this way. She is not willing to negotiate or compromise,though she's clearly wrong. Personally, I think she should be blocked, but apparently the "Wikipedia Gods" love her because she is literally everywhere! What are your thoughts? --Rahu22 (talk) 04:14, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Each pageant is different on how they want to name their countries. In the case of Miss Universe they refer the country of Slovakia as "Slovak Republic" as that's always been the case. On the contrary, that country competes at Miss World under "Slovakia". They are refer as either one but we go based on what the official sashes say. Now as far as Korea goes I have NEVER seen the official sash say "South Korea" in any pageant ever. Art 281 (talk) 19:56, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Sierra Leone Part Two
Good morning Art, I'm keeping a close eye on editor DanaRhys. They reverted your edit and is the person behind the fake sources linked to Instagram accounts. I have taken Sierra Leone out completely, as no other legitimate sources have come forward. Not sure if it will stay that way though. Is there a way of reporting someone involved in an edit war? --Rahu22 (talk) 15:17, 21 November 2018 (UTC)


 * FYI, I have had an extensive discussion with this editor about the same topics at my talk page. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 18:18, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Yea I'm not sure why nobody has reported that user. Personally I don't report users as I don't have the time to deal with all that. Art 281 (talk) 19:57, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Miss Universe 2018 page violations
Hi Art, As much as I'd like to fight the good fight and try to fend off those pesky editors wreaking havoc on our page, I think I will bow out gracefully and let the chips fall where they may...at least until AFTER the pageant. Good luck with everything, file "edit war" complaints if you have to, and please do keep in touch! Michael --Rahu22 (talk) 23:25, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

I understand your frustration! It's ok, I'll try my best to keep up! Art 281 (talk) 19:57, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi again, I just read jjj1238's comment directed towards you regarding her continual country name edits and I requested Drm310 to file an edit war complaint against her. He's been helpful to us so far, so fingers crossed. --Rahu22 (talk) 05:56, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Oh perfect! Thanks! Art 281 (talk) 08:16, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

More bad news...Drm310 told me he doesn't know enough about COMMONNAME, so he won't file an edit war complaint against her. He has tried to advise her to bring up the issue on one of the dispute resolution boards, but she refuses and will not listen. In fact, she has changed ALL previous pageant pages to Slovakia dating back to 1994! I would change them back myself, but I don't know the abbreviation of Slovak Republic. I have never seen an editor so spiteful and skilled at using "rules and guidelines" as a weapon. We could still file an edit war complaint against her, but the block would only last 24 hrs. She claims to be a pageant lover, but she has a funny way of showing it and has ZERO respect for Miss Universe history. Why can't she just leave well enough alone? I think she pisses people off ALL THE TIME, so my hope is that she will be blocked permanently one of these days. That would be sweet justice indeed! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahu22 (talk • contribs) 20:21, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

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Reaching a Compromise
Hi Art, unfortunately I just checked the official contestant page for MUO and they have changed the name of Slovak Republic to Slovakia. However, Korea is still Korea. --Rahu22 (talk) 20:34, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Sounds good! Art 281 (talk) 03:36, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Sierra Leone IS participating!
Hi again, this clip just popped up on Youtube showing a sash reserved for Sierra Leone. I will call MUO tomorrow to confirm. I may need your help adding them as the source once they add her photo onto their official website. Thanks! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKfSVZTQNHs --Rahu22 (talk) 03:57, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

No Confirmation
I tried to find other sources to validate Sierra Leone's participation, but there's been no luck. She hasn't registered yet and is still not listed on the official MUO site. I guess we'll just have to wait until the preliminaries to know for sure. I'll let you edit the page as you see fit. Thanks. --Rahu22 (talk) 14:36, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

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