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Hi,everyone. The alphabet is the best invention of the humankind. If St. Mesrop invented Georgian alphabet, he deserves nothing but gratitude from us, Georgians. BUT DID HE REALLY CREATE IT? Several traditions exist regarding the invention of Georgian alphabet. We want to learn more about it. It is a stupid thing to say that we are offended by Armenian tradition. Those who know history know that one has to check and double-check the existing sources. E.G Philip Longworth says in his indroction to `Russia` that `the early chronicles were composed to sustain the legitimacy and claims of princes rather to provide objective records of circumstances and events.` He speaks about Russian sources but this opinion is shared by the historians all over the world: We cannot just rely on sources, we must examine them, we must try to prove that they are correct.

Wikipedia tells us that Armenian alphabet is modeled after the Greek alphabet, supplemented with letters from a different source or sources for Armenian sounds not found in Greek. The evidence for this is the Greek order of the Armenian alphabet. CHECK WHETHER GEORGIAN AND ARMENIAN ALPHABETS HAVE THE SAME ORDER. THEY DO NOT. Most of Armenian history books do not mention that there was a certain GREEK FROM SAMOSATA CALLED RUFANOS who helped St. Mestrop creat the alphabet. WHY? One way or another Mestrop knew Greek. DID HE KNOW GEORGIAN AND ALBANIAN? The Armenian tradition says that Mestrop listened to Albanians and thus created their alphabet. I don`t know who can believe this. ONE HAS TO BE FLUENT IN ANY LANGUAGE TO CREATE THE ALPHABET OF IT. ANY LINGUIST CAN CONFIRM IT. Some Amrenian and European schollars THINK that the historian of St. Mesrop, Koryun was either Georgian or Georgian-Armenian (Check Wikipedia). WHY DOES NOT HE SAY SO? Maybe Geogians asked St.Mesrop to create their alphabet as well, he would not have been able to do it without the help of Georgians. The source does not tell us he knew Georgian, which is not related to Armenian language. It is possible that Koryun helped him creat Georgian alphabet but why does not he say so?

I would love to provide you with some information about Georgian alphabet. The German scholar Junker, H. `H holds that bothe Mkedruli and Khutsuri are based like the Armenian alphabet on Aramaic Pahlavi scripts. He also suggests Greek influence (`Caucasia. 1925-1927. I want to just remidn you all that before Georgian alphabet a unique local for of Armaic writing knows as Armazuli existed in Georgia as demonstrated by the 1940`s discovery of a bilinigueal Greco-Aramaic inscription at Btskheta, Georgia. Sir, Ellis H. Minns points out that the Georgian script must be derived from Aramaic as it has in their RIGHT PLACES LETTRES CORRESPONDING TO WOW, TSADE AND QOPH. ARMENIAN POSSESSES THESE, BUT OUT OF ORDER. W. E. D. Allen writes: `The Georgian alphabet is a perfect instrument for rendering the wealth of varied sounds in the language: the letters give EACH DIFFERENT SOUND WITH ACCURACY AND CLEARNESS AND NO OTHER ALPHABET, INCLUDING THE ARMENIAN COMPARES WITH IT IN EFFICIENCY. IT WOULD SEEM THAT THE ALPHABET HAS A LONG AND SLOW EVOLUTION TO ITS PRESENT STATE OF PERFECTION, RATHER THAN IT WAS INVENTED BY A FOREIGNER.` ( Mr. Allen is the auther of `A history of the Georgian people`, London. `The present State of Caucasian Studies`` )

N. Marr, a leading linguist, while accepting the common opinion that the Khuttsuri was a Georgian Christian creation, considers the Mkedruli as a developments of a pre-hChristian Georgian script, which was modified in later times, under the influence of the Khutsuri. Someatribute the origin of the Khutsuri to the creator of the Armenian alphabet. Nowadays only SOME LETTERS OF THE 2 SCRIPTS LOOK ALIKE. Nina iberi (talk) 21:31, 3 March 2010