User talk:Artaxerex/ Archive 3

Image copyright problem with File:Chanel 5.jpg
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Image copyright problem with File:Dior Jadore.jpg
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History of graphic design
My compliments on History of graphic design, it seems like an interesting article that will end up being comprehensive and well-sourced. I understand it is a new article, that you are currently working on it and may know exactly what needs to be improved, but I have tagged it for its most obvious needs and want to quickly spell those out for you.

First of all, as you've obviously begun to notice, all fair use (non-free) images used in this article need to have on their description pages a backlink to this article and a rationale for their use here. Bots will slowly and surely tag them all, but some may not be automatically noted on this talk page, and you may want to just head them off by beginning a mass update of the image rationales. The fastest way would be the way I just cleaned up your 2nd use rationale for File:Killingjoke.JPG, which is copying the existing template for the primary use, and merely replacing the article name and purpose. Some images may alternately use the split date/rationale templates, which consist of one "blue" template to state the description/source info, and a "pink" template for each use/rationale (see File:Princessirulan.JPG for an example).

Secondly, the bulk of your image captions seem to make statements which can only be interpreted as editor opinion; I imagine you are aware of this, but they ultimately need to be referenced or stripped of words like "compelling," "perfect," "clear," or "stunning." Obviously the images are chosen to each explain a point, but making those points is original research or editor POV without reliable and verifiable sources. Depending on what kind of attention this article attracts, you may end up having to remove sections and images you haven't gotten to yet and restoring them one at a time when you have the appropriate references. With this large number of images in use that are not yet "compliant," I am thinking you will attract many "image use enforcers" and the like. Thanks, and let me know if I can be of any assistance! &mdash; TAnthonyTalk 05:09, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your excellent advice. I will gradually go through each picture and change the editorials to NPOV. For many of them I have the reference but I think it would be easier if I just remove those qualifiers. As for adding rationale for fair use, I have added them as soon as I have received the notice. Some images I have up loaded and then I found a better image, like the ones that follow your message, they can of course be deleted without any consequences. I would have done it myself if olny I knew how. Thanks again for your comments. They are greatly appreciated and are welcome. Please let me know if you have any suggestions.--Artaxerex (talk) 06:01, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


 * One more thing, on the subject of section headings. You should only capitalize the first letter of the first word and any proper nouns in headings, but leave the rest lower case per Manual of Style (capital letters). Also, try to avoid repeating the subject of the article in the headings, per Manual of Style; for example, "Pottery" instead of "Graphic design in pottery" and "The Qur'an" instead of "Graphics in the Qur'an." Even the word "art" is probably redundant in headings, because readers are automatically applying the term "graphic design" to section headings based on the article's title.&mdash; TAnthonyTalk 06:41, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you again for your guidance, I will definitely apply your comments. I have gone through the article and removed those POV qualifiers. I have nor finished them yet. But would it be possible to remove those non-neutrality labels from the article, and if you find any ask me here to remove them. The reason is that the labels may attract some editing on an version that is still unfinished and needs a lot of work still, thanks .--Artaxerex (talk) 07:33, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Ludwig Hohlwein Kraft-Omnibusse.jpg)
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Orphaned non-free media (File:Ludwig Hohlwein wiesbaden.jpg)
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Orphaned non-free media (File:Trump cards from a Minchlase, c.1859.gif)
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==Disputed non-free use rationale for File:The Lamborghini Murciélago is a sports car produced by Italian automaker Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A. and designed by Luc Donckerwolke. It was introduced in 2002 as the successor to the Diablo.jpg== Thank you for uploading File:The Lamborghini Murciélago is a sports car produced by Italian automaker Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A. and designed by Luc Donckerwolke. It was introduced in 2002 as the successor to the Diablo.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this file on Wikipedia may not meet the criteria required by Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the file description page and adding or clarifying the reason why the file qualifies under this policy. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Non-free use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your file is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a non-free use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for files used under the non-free content policy require both a copyright tag and a non-free use rationale.

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Disputed non-free use rationale for File:A modern IMME 1200 BMW motorbike.jpg
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Replaceable fair use Image:Ralph-lauren-clock-plates.jpg
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Replaceable fair use Image:Miton-kitchen-mt-700-1.jpg
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Replaceable fair use Image:Miele German Kitchen Appliance.jpg
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Replaceable fair use Image:Dna-plus-washbasin-dual.jpg
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Replaceable fair use Image:Lomme-Bed.jpg
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Replaceable fair use Image:Toilet-bidet-combo-hatria-open.jpg
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Replaceable fair use Image:Ultra modern chairs jake phipps orson.jpg
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Replaceable fair use Image:Modern furniture accent chair pastil chair eero aarnio by adelta.jpg
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Replaceable fair use Image:Angolo the modular cabinets designed by Kazuhiro Yamanaka,.jpg
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Replaceable fair use Image:Modern landscape in Dubay.jpg
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Uploading lots and lots of non-free images
Hi Artaxerex, I've dropped a note about this on Wikipedia talk:Non-free content as I think you have gone just a little overboard here. Can you please come to the linked page or drop a note to myself as from what I see most of the images you are uploading don't satisfy many of the non-free content criteria - Peripitus (Talk)
 * Hi Peripitus, Thank you very much for your guidance and help. I have already incorporated your suggestion in one of the images and will do so w.r.t others. Please let me know which images need to be deleted or replaced. Unfortunately, I am not aware of any free image that can be used in the article. I appreciate any help or comments you could offer. Please note also that given the time consuming nature of this undertaking, I can polish the article gradually over the next few months.  All the best --Artaxerex (talk) 18:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Artaxerex, I think the most obvious problem in History of graphic design is that you're using four non-free image examples for each area when one would probably be enough (and in some cases, a visual example may not even be necessary). Check out WP:NFCC #3a for the specific policy language covering this. You can always provide external links to other websites to direct readers to other examples. Also, if it is not clear in the article how the image illustrates the point being made in the text, some kind of external source must be cited for the fair use rationale to be considered valid. Plus, as I noted before, there are still captions and such that seem to assert editor POV without sources. This article has over 230 images; some of them are from Commons, but it is way too much for an article with such a limited amount of text. It is coming off as an image gallery rather than an article. As I suggested previously, you may need to strip it down and incorporate images back in one-by-one as you build the article over time.&mdash; TAnthonyTalk 18:43, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Anthony, Thank you for your comments. I will go through the caption again, most of the captions are taken from various articles from their references, and as you may have noticed I have added in some of the captions statements like; "According to xxx ..." or " XXX have argued that ... Of course, I may have in-sensitized to some of POVS (because perhaps I have wrongly assumed there exist some consensus), I will try to go back once more and change those, but I appreciate if you can bring them to my attention. As for the images, I beg you to consider that an article about the history of graphic would be somewhat more accurate if uses less words and more images, so that the POV aspect would be minimized. Of course, given the long history and the preponderance of the artists, art works, styles, categories, etc. The article has tried to be extremely selective in its image selection. For example, in our educational files there 565 images of various decorative bibles, 2367 images manuscript, 1378 maps, and so on and so forth. Thus, it appears that  choosing only 4 images would be a formidable task  for each category, and it does not really do justice to the categories (even for a category like Olympic pictograms the article  had to forgo the Japanese pioneering works, as well as some other ones). Perhaps one day it would be  possible to do a comprehensive historical article on the wiki but until then I hope we can agree that, this is a minimum one should do.  Nevertheless, I will now  halt adding any new section, and of course, I value and welcome your wise counsel. Please provide provide me with more of your suggestions. --Artaxerex (talk) 19:32, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks again for your interest in expanding and improving this article. First of all, one of the captions I talked about in my last comment is at History of graphic design. The phrase "Roy Lichtenstein work probably defines the basic impact of comics on modern culture. Selecting the old-fashioned comic strip as subject matter, Lichtenstein produces a hard-edged, precise composition that documents this fact" etc. is all probably true but needs a source other than you establishing it. By comparison, the Superman caption is well sourced.


 * The thing is, looking at these four images, some of the information in the the four captions could be combined (with sources) into the start of a decent paragraph on the topic. But not each sentence needs to be illustrated; in a proper article we "tell" first and "show" as a secondary clarification where necessary. I understand that it seems like common sense that an article about graphic design requires images, but that is not quite the case here because for legal reasons Wikipedia as a whole must limit its use of images owned by others. If that's how you feel you need to construct a piece on the topic, you should consider your own webpage or blog (keeping in mind that you still do not own the images, and copyright owners may object to their use on your page as well).&mdash; TAnthonyTalk 00:33, 16 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for your excellent comments. I appreciate them very much. I am sure that the caption for Roy Lichtenstein segment was taken from an article about him. However I will change it to a NPOV. Please let me know if you see any other POV segment. I also understand your points about the images and in fact  some of the images have already been removed.  Thank you again for your time and please provide me with more comments.--Artaxerex (talk) 04:57, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I feel like I need to say something, because it seems like you have a lot of interest and knowledge in this topic, and you obviously care about it, and you have put a lot of work into this article... yet there seems to be some fairly major issues. My first, and most glaring, concern I have with the article is that you don't cite Phil Meggs at all! What gives ;P !?! Next, it does not appear as if you are writing an encyclopedia article. At times, it seems like a glorified image gallery or slideshow. As if the images are there to drive the content. I would urge you to instead focus on writing content, in an encyclopedic and concise manner, and then seeing if the content necessitates any images (let the content drive the images, not vice versa). The reason why this is especially problematic, as others have pointed out above, is because we have a excessively strict image use policy when it comes to non-free images. A fair use rationale that says To identify the logo of this work as a distinct graphic design, for educational purpose in the article. really isn't saying anything. Keep in mind wikipedia is the Free encyclopedia (free, not only in cost, but in how we license content). I don't mean to discourage you. In fact, I believe that your energy and time and knowledge can really benefit the encyclopedia. I'd just like for you to reconsider how you use images, especially the non-free ones. If you have questions about how wikipedia works, or want to get into the messy details of our image use policies, feel free to contact me, or if you need help in any other way, I'm here. Also, I'd like to help build this article (by adding info from Meggs of course!) So good luck to you.-Andrew c [talk] 02:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much Andrew. My intention was to create a graphic article that as you put it would let the images to drive the content, as I believe if the content could have acted as the driver why did we need images at all? Anyhow this is now a mute philosophical point and, of course, I understand the issue of free-image and fair use. Frankly I gave up, the article is now yours and you are welcome to add a Phil Megges section. All the best --Artaxerex (talk) 06:16, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

==File:The_Lamborghini_Murciélago_is_a_sports_car_produced_by_Italian_automaker_Automobili_Lamborghini_S.p.A._and_designed_by_Luc_Donckerwolke._It_was_introduced_in_2002_as_the_successor_to_the_Diablo.jpg== I have tagged File:The_Lamborghini_Murciélago_is_a_sports_car_produced_by_Italian_automaker_Automobili_Lamborghini_S.p.A._and_designed_by_Luc_Donckerwolke._It_was_introduced_in_2002_as_the_successor_to_the_Diablo.jpg as orphaned fairuse. In order for the image to be kept at Wikipedia, it must be included in at least one article. Otherwise, it will be deleted in seven days.  MBisanz  talk 01:52, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

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