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Your submission at Articles for creation: Alexander Hamilton (artist) (April 19)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Dan arndt was:

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Dan arndt (talk) 23:54, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Alexander Hamilton (artist) (June 20)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Gusfriend was:

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Gusfriend (talk) 09:28, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Alexander Hamilton (artist) (July 19)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Hoary were:

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Hoary (talk) 12:25, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Suggestions for Draft:Alexander Hamilton (artist)
Hello, I'm Netherzone. I came across your draft for Alexander Hamilton, the artist/photographer. It surprised me that it was stalled at AfC, as he clearly meets notability criteria for WP:NARTIST with his work being held in four collections as well as passing WP:GNG. I also saw that you recently added many citations to the Work section. Some reviewers or editors might feel that this is ref-bombing (see WP:REFBOMB) as a way to bolster presumed notability. I would suggest choosing only the best references for that section, and using those to develop the section with relevant content. I also suggest removing lower quality refs like blogs, and sometimes commercial galleries are questioned as reliable sources because of conflict of interest; therefore the higher quality sources would be things like reviews in magazines or art historical journals; content in books or other scholarly texts. Hopes this helps move the draft along in the process (there is a big backlog at AfC) - let me know if you have any questions as I see you are a new editor and this is your first attempt at an article. You can leave me a message here (but make sure you "ping" me - see WP:PING) or you can leave a message on my talk page, you can find the link just after my signature. Netherzone (talk) 18:32, 26 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi . Yes, it's been a bit frustrating because I am not sure what else I can provide. Edinburgh University Press will be publishing a book about him next year, so part of me wonders whether this is just easier done once that is out. I added all the references to the work section because previously I had them just in the selected exhibitions section, but moved them up to that section when it was pointed out there weren't sufficient references in work. I have press clippings (newspaper) but believe I cannot use them because I don't have the URLs (which appear to be required for newspaper sources). I also have a whole pile of exhibition catalogues, but many don't have ISBNS. I will revise the work sources as you suggest though. Thank you! Arthistorian21 (talk) 14:53, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, glad you saw my note! I've watch-listed the draft and will help you to develop it if you would like that. Currently I'm working on another new article, but I'm always up for collaborating. If you would rather work on it yourself, just let me know. I don't think you will have to wait for the Edinburgh U Press book to be published. Offline sources (without a URL) are OK to use per WP guidelines, however there are two useful resources to know about that can help: WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request - the shortcut is WP:RX; and also the Wikipedia Library shortcut is WP:LIB. I have access to Newspaper.com, and also JSTOR, Oxford Online, Internet Archive and other resources if you do not. If you can't find an online source but know an offline review or article exists, just let me know (put the info here or on the draft talk page) and I will see if I can find an online copy. Netherzone (talk) 15:16, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello@Netherzone Very happy to have whatever help available! I'm a tad out of my depth here. It says I currently don't have access to Wikipedia Library because I don't have 6+ months of edits or 500+ edits. An example of a newspaper article I have a clipping for but cant find online is Scotland on Sunday, 7 July 2002, "Brave Experiment" by Iain Gale, but I have looked on various platforms and haven't been able to find aa version online. Thanks again for reaching out. Arthistorian21 (talk) 15:27, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I found it, the full text, on ProQuest (with access provided by Wikipedia - you may want to ask the WP Library if you can have ProQuest access without a full library access since you are a new editor. I don't know what their policy is.) Or if you are affiliated with a university library as a professor or student, or even a local library, you may be able to get ProQuest access that way.
 * Here is the full citation with the URL:
 * Gale, Ian. (2002, Jul 07). Art: The great divide: Brave experiment: [THE REVIEW edition]. Scotland on Sunday Retrieved from https://www.proquest.com/newspapers/art-great-divide-brave-experiment/docview/326609985/se-2

And here is another WP resource that may be helpful for you to know about: Wikipedia:Reference Desk shortcut is WP:RD. Netherzone (talk) 16:14, 27 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much!! Arthistorian21 (talk) 16:33, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * FYI, Internet Archive is a free online-lending library and resource for books, images, and audio & video files, as well as links to other online resources. Link here: . Happy editing! Netherzone (talk) 17:21, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Alexander Hamilton (artist) has been accepted
 Alexander Hamilton (artist), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Thanks again, and happy editing! Netherzone (talk) 16:14, 1 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Can't tell you how delighted I am! At last! Thank you again for your help, so appreciated. Arthistorian21 (talk) 16:23, 1 August 2022 (UTC)