User talk:Arthur1884

=Discrimination, Racism= Would you categorize the articles on Americentrism or the United States under Discrimination and Racism because of the treatment of Native Americans or because the Constitution did not originally prevent slavery and Civil Rights took until the 1960s?

Don't worry I'll categorize that under Racism and Discrimination shortly (Arthur1884 December 27,2013

I disagree, my understanding of Eurocentrism is a view and definition of the world from a particular perspective, if we label this as racism and discrimination, what else should we label, Manifest Destiny and American Exceptionalism? The section in Eurocentrism on White supremacy is offtopic and already tagged as such. Why do you see Eurocentrism or Americentrism as discriminatory or racist? 24.165.84.1 (talk) 03:46, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

I see it as discrimination because of the many non-European cultures wiped out in the name of 'progress' and 'civilizing' by the Europeans, like the Native Americans. That's why I disagree with you. Arthur1884, December 30, 2013 11:39pm EST

Okay, I agree with you and I think anyone who studied the subject objectively also would. But that’s not what Eurocentrism is about. There are articles that address this topic such as Genocides in history. There is wikipedia policy that says we should not use Wikipedia to right great wrongs. Using powerful labels like discrimination and racism where the link is not clear undermines the strength of those terms. Would you consider this point of view? 24.165.84.1 (talk) 06:31, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I found relevant discussion at Racism:

"Debates over the origins of racism often suffer from a lack of clarity over the term. Many use the term 'racism' to refer to more general phenomena, such as xenophobia and ethnocentrism, although scholars attempt to clearly distinguish those phenomena from racism as an ideology or from scientific racism, which has little to do with ordinary xenophobia."


 * If you agree, I will remove the tags from Eurocentrism and Americentrism? I am leaving on vacation so would like to make the change today. Please consider the above and any further relevant research. 24.165.84.1 (talk) 22:32, 31 December 2013 (UTC)