User talk:Arthurmarx

July 2017
Hello, I'm Bonadea. I noticed that you recently removed content from Hypnotherapy without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. ''

Your edits removed well-sourced content. Please use the article talk page to discuss the changes you want to make, and note that you need to provide reliable sources. Thank you. bonadea'' contributions talk 08:54, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Hypnotherapy, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. ''

Again, please use the article talk page (not my user talk page) to discuss this. The principle is called "Bold, Revert, Discuss" - you made a bold edit, somebody reverted it, and the next step is to discuss and not revert back. To reiterate, the changes are not uncontroversial. If (and only if) you get consensus in favour of your changes, you can implement them. Thank you. bonadea'' contributions talk 16:06, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi Bonadea, thank you for the information. I am new to Wikipedia editing and appreciate your feedback. The Hypnotherapy page has many errors and incorrect definitions. Ideally I would like to go through the whole article and track changes where there are errors, however at this stage I am only making changes to the following major mistakes on the page: 1. Hypnotherapy is a form of psychotherapy (Brom, D., Kleber, R. J., & Defares, P. B. (1989). Brief psychotherapy for posttraumatic stress disorders. Journal of consulting and clinical psychology, 57(5), 607; Haley, J. (1963). Strategies of psychotherapy; Wolberg, L. R. (1948). Medical hypnosis, Vol. 2. The practice of hypnotherapy; Zeig, J. K., & Munion, W. (1990). What is psychotherapy?: Contemporary perspectives. Jossey-Bass). 2. Hypnotherapy benefits are not placebo, they are cognitive, neurological and therapeutic (Bernheim, H. (1964). Hypnosis & suggestion in psychotherapy: a treatise on the nature and uses of hypnotism. Tr. from the 2d rev. University Books; Eimer, B. N., & Freeman, A. (1998). Pain management psychotherapy: A practical guide. New York, NY: John Wiley & Sons; Wolberg, L. R. (1948). Medical hypnosis, Vol. 2. The practice of hypnotherapy; Walters, C., & Havens, R. A. (1993). Hypnotherapy for health, harmony, and peak performance: Expanding the goals of psychotherapy. Psychology Press). 3. Hypnotherapy applications are used in a clinical setting for psychotherapy and counselling, not for stage hypnosis and hypnosurgery (Brom, D., Kleber, R. J., & Defares, P. B. (1989). Brief psychotherapy for posttraumatic stress disorders. Journal of consulting and clinical psychology, 57(5), 607; Guthrie, E., & Whorwell, P. J. (2002). Psychotherapy and hypnotherapy in IBS. Irritable bowel syndrome: diagnosis and treatment. London7 WB Saunders; Haley, J. (1963). Strategies of psychotherapy; Wolberg, L. R. (1948). Medical hypnosis, Vol.
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Kind regards, Arthur.


 * Hello again Arthur, it seems that you have not discussed your proposed changes on the article talk page yet. As mentioned above, controversial changes need a consensus first, and the article talk page (not any user talk page, but Talk:Hypnotherapy) is where the discussion needs to happen. Thank you. --bonadea contributions talk 18:44, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Please stop making disruptive edits, as you did at Hypnotherapy. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. ''Please read Consensus. It is indeed mandatory. Also note that sources added to edit summaries are not visible to our readers - sources have to be added to the article. This does not imply that you can simply restore the edit with the source you mention - you still need to get consensus first. Thank you. bonadea'' contributions talk 19:31, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
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20:04, 24 July 2017 (UTC)Reply I have only been polite and professional with the aim of providing correct and cited information. You haven't added any constructive information or references to the page, you have only been inappropriately policing my edits for some reason. Wikipedia encourages user participation and for users to make edits. I have been following the guidelines that you suggested ("The BOLD, revert, discuss cycle (BRD) is an optional method of reaching consensus. No one is ever required to follow this process, but it can sometimes be useful for identifying objections, keeping discussion moving forward and helping to break deadlocks. In other situations, you may have better success with alternatives to this approach."). You may need to review them yourself to ensure that you act appropriately, without discouraging people's contributions- The same rules apply to all users.

My edits to the Hypnotherapy page have been appropriate, however I will also add comments to the article's talk page shortly. Please be patient and non-threatening, I am only here to help make the information accurate. Kind regards.