User talk:ArtifexMayhem

Hello, ArtifexMayhem, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! Ian.thomson (talk) 00:38, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
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Aristotle? Well, that's got to be the least controversial edit ever done to the article. Orange Marlin Talk• Contributions 04:34, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I figured I should put something down before I ripped out that unsourced, factually wrong, Hippocratic Oath bit of fucking insane propaganda and replaced it with reality. That will be more interesting :) Nice Marlin karma btw. ArtifexMayhem (talk) 05:45, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I was just coming here to thank you for catching that one.
 * Meanwhile, there's a bit of Leviticus or Deuteronomy that says, roughly, that if you beat a woman to death, you shall be put to death. (That happens a lot in those books.)  However, if you beat her just enough that she has a miscarriage, you just have to give her husband some money.  So much for the value of fetuses.  I'll try to find some non-OR way to work it in after the forthcoming Hippocrates brouhaha. PhGustaf (talk) 04:53, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I also like this bit...."In the 20th century the Soviet Union (1919), Iceland (1935) and Sweden (1938)....legalize certain or all forms of abortion. In 1935 Nazi Germany..."
 * Can you find the two red herrings? ArtifexMayhem (talk) 06:03, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Poking around, I see that Judaism and abortion already quotes Exodus 21:22-23. Not sure whether that would fit in the top article,  but I'll think about it. PhGustaf (talk) 06:26, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Many thanks. Getting it into the articles will be the hard bit. Do you it's time the Collapse of 7 World Trade Center article? Again, thanks for the message. — ArtifexMayhem (talk) 05:36, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

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If I could hit "like" on this comment a thousand times, I would. What does "assuming good faith" look like when someone determinedly denies even the most blatantly obvious racist context, and then attacks you for pointing it out? I guess it means invoking colossal ignorance and massive blind spots as the most charitable possible explanation? It's not just the thread at Jimbo's talkpage; I'm separately hearing stuff like: "I disagree with MastCell's characterization of 'lynching' as a 'racially charged' word." That's right: people are denying that the term "lynching" is racially charged. Sometimes I feel like I've accidentally wandered into forum filled with QAnon word salad, but no, I'm on Wikipedia... Where pointing out that 2 + 2 = 4 gets you pigeonholed as a raving far-left radical socialist. So thank you for being a voice of sanity and an ambassador from the real world. There is a cost to speaking up about this kind of stuff, especially in an environment like this where social capital is the only real currency, so thank you. MastCell Talk 18:43, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Hopefully, it will help somebody get a clue. Might not be anybody that is commenting on that thread, but somebody. I did find Gandydancer's comment heartwarming. Gives me hope that there are more like her floating around.


 * Whaaaat... Lynching?, really? Jebus. Although, I grew up in a Dallas suburb that had very well-funded schools (of course, there was only one African American out of 1200 kids in my class. I can't imagine what that must have been like) . All of the high school teachers were required to have at least a master's degree ("high school" was just 11th and 12th grades in the district). However, my American History teacher was a civil war reenactor and when it came time to cover the war.... he showed up every day in a different Confederate uniform. As you might have guessed already, we learned —in the mid-1980's for fucks sake— that the war wasn't about slavery. Nope. It was about states' rights, free enterprise, etc, etc, etc. So I suppose I could understand why somebody might not see lynching as a racial thing... I mean until they took a college-level history class, or something, maybe? Jebus, this good-faith thing is gonna be the death of me. Btw.. you missed communist, Marxist (cultural or otherwise) and god-less there in your pigeonhole :) Have you been talked about on Stormfront yet? I got that a few years ago. So not freighting or anything;) Thanks again. Keep the faith baby. Keep the faith :) —ArtifexMayhem (talk) 00:51, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * . Somehow MastCell's very civil asking for clarification about a possible blind spot was quickly turned into them making accusations of racism, accusations that never happened. Then they were piled on with more false accusations and the discussion went downhill from there. There were many personal attacks made against them and those who defended them.
 * It absolutely floors me that anyone who claims to be against racism can be so blind as to say that Reagan's description of Africans was anything but an extremely racist thing to say. SMH! Don't they remember that in the 1960s racism was so politically accepted and engrained in society that such statements often happened without much comment? That didn't make them any less racist.
 * Speaking generally, not about this situation at Wikipedia....all humans, and especially Americans, are hereditary racists to some degree. The failure to recognize that fact is itself a huge blindspot. The more important question is "Are we really so fragile that we can't admit that fact and work toward becoming enlightened and reformed enough to be active "anti-racists"?" Yes, enlightened racists are anti-racists. Unenlightened racists defend it. All Americans, especially us seniors, grew up in a racist society, and even if our families did not participate in it and condemned it, it still had unwanted effects on us. Admitting that fact is a good thing and is a first step toward improving. -- Valjean (talk) 15:56, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * These, at the very least, should be required high school reading (every week for all four years with a quiz every Friday)


 * 'There Is No Neutral': 'Nice White People' Can Still Be Complicit In A Racist Society


 * To the White People Who Keep Asking How to ‘Help’


 * You Want a Confederate Monument? My Body Is a Confederate Monument


 * Plus at least two semesters of Anti-Racism (and maybe a weekend or two or ten in jail so everybody would know exactly what that's about).


 * You could not be more right, . Thank you. —ArtifexMayhem (talk) 22:38, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Long time no see Artifex. How is your beautiful white horse doing?  Fine I hope.  It has been good to see MastCell posting--I think a lot of Wikipedians look up to him, I know I sure do.  And then to run into you as well, what a wonderful treat for me!  I've always liked African Americans and I've said many times we should get down and kiss the ground they walk on for all they have done for this country.  The dance and music they have given us are priceless.  I lived with some of them once and they seem to know how to enjoy life more than we white folk do.  I'm really quite surprised with how much I've learned these last few months, the months since we all watched a black man die right before our eyes as he begged for his life.  Just a few months previous to his death an African American youth died in a similar manner and nobody even noticed.  Read the article that I've been working on Elijah McClain.  (BTW, no one else is working on it and I wish someone would do a copy edit on it to make any improvements they see fit.)


 * But, as I started to say, I've learned a lot lately, for example I just recently learned about the Southern strategy and have been looking at similar articles, for example at Political positions of Ronald Reagan I found this gem: There are critics who claim that Reagan gave his 1980 presidential campaign speech about states' rights in Philadelphia, Mississippi.[63] This also happens to be the place where three civil rights workers were killed in 1964.[64] However, Reagan had given it at the Neshoba County Fair in the unincorporated community of Neshoba, Mississippi, seven miles away. It was a popular campaigning spot; presidential candidates John Glenn and Michael Dukakis both campaigned there as well.  Actually the county fairgrounds are, of course, located a few miles outside of the town. Since there is no Mississippi town called Neshoba, which is the name of the county, they said it was an "unincorporated" town.  Once again, it takes a really great deal of both lack of moral character and just plain stupidity to write this stuff.  It is laughable and I do laugh at it, but I suppose it's not very funny.  What have you been up to Art?  Gandydancer (talk) 02:58, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Gandydancer :) All the animals are doing well (not sure how they'll be if I ever stop working from home...attention pigs, all of 'em). I'm glad you've had good experiences being exposed to different cultures. I've always found that we learn more about how we are all the same when we experience the differences. The more music, theatre, dance, and art we share the more we realize we are all just human :) But, other than the covid zombie apocalypse, all good here. Mostly I've been working and working same as always (and trying to listen to every live Grateful Dead show in order - as you might have gleaned from my post on your page).


 * I've actually watched the video you linked on Jimbo's talk page. It is really excellent, and I'm glad you found it. Hopefully, more people will find it and maybe look at things in a different light. Good work on the Elijah McClain article, btw. I will certainly keep an eye on it (as you may, or may not remember, my ability to write prose is very poor - gnoming, formatting, and sourcing is more my bag). Thank you again for the awesome post on Jimbo's page. You set the example. —ArtifexMayhem (talk) 00:39, 9 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Well, first of all thanks for calling my post awesome--I can't see anything awesome about it but I'm more than willing to take your word for it. { About the Grateful Dead music/words on my page--I thought it was a poem and found it to be just lovely.  I do like the Grateful Dead but mostly because of Gerry Garcia, who I love.  Did you see the doc of their ride across Canada in a train filled with other stars of that time, including Janis Joplin?  I think I'd have to say that Joplin's Bobby McGee is my all-time favorite song, and especially so since it was the words "freedom's just another word for nothing left to loose" that brought on my first ever  "peak experience", which, thinking back on it, drug me kicking and screaming into adulthood.


 * About the article I mentioned, I don't write very well either, plus as the leading editor of the article I was not comfortable to go about changing the wording of others for the most part. But MastCell, who does write very well, did a great copy edit, bless his kind and kindred soul.


 * OK, to end, I want to share some very uplifting music and dance. Have you seen this  ?  If I don't watch it atleast once a day I yearn for it like it is a drug to make me feel happy and gay and experience a renewed belief in hope for this world we live in. Gandydancer (talk)



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