User talk:Artuserfirst

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Land art
Please do not add this name to the list of Land artists. Lists are not meant to be exaustive and we only list the most notable artists.  freshacconci  talk talk  18:39, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Would like to know what criteria your using for notable land artists? User:Artusrfirst
 * Please carry this conversation on with the user above - either on your talkpage or theirs, which ever you prefer. The helpme tag is for help with editing and using Wikipedia! Hope you get your answer. -- Crazysane (T/C\D) 15:32, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I've added his name to the Land art article based on him being profiled in the New York Times Magazine and CBS Morning News which is significant. The notability tag needs to be left in place until the article on Denevan is sourced, but the sources appear to be available according to his website (which has scans of several articles in internation magazines).  freshacconci  talk talk  16:12, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Jim Denevan
Hi. Please add reliable, secondary sources to the article about Jim Denevan. We can't have articles that don't establish notability, otherwise we'd just be another myspace/facebook/resume. The article has to have secondary sources (ie, sources that are not connected to the artist financially or personally).

I like land art. I like the gallery of Denevan's land art. I'm trying to help you get the article that you wrote, into a keepable state! Thanks. -- Quiddity (talk) 19:53, 26 August 2010 (UTC) I am trying to understand the secondary source ref. needed to establish "keepable state" please thank you artuserfirst
 * Please read WP:SOURCE for info on how to source your information. Secondary sources are not directly connected to the subject of the article. -- Crazysane (T/C\D) 15:35, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * PS: Put helpme on it's own line above what you need help with, so it's easier to find. Thanks! -- Crazysane (T/C\D) 15:36, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, as a supplementary note, you can check PSTS for a full explanation of what these terms mean. In summary, secondary sources are produced by people at least one step removed from the subject. As previously stated, when it comes to establishing a person's notability then key facts normally need verifying beyond the person's own words or agent/publisher's statements. Newspaper and magazine articles are often a good secondary source. Fæ (talk) 15:46, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Please see Talk:Jim Denevan for specific details. I've had to remove the majority of the content, as it was simply copy&pasted from elsewhere. The content copied from The Daily Telegraph constitutes a copyright violation, and the content copied from various Facebook pages is potentially a copyright violation, but more importantly it is written in an inappropriate tone (see WP:TONE for an explanation). It's not all bad news though, I did find another article about him in The Daily Telegraph archives, so I've added that to the list of potential references. I would strongly recommend you read through WP:NPOV, or at least the introduction, to get a better idea of what is wanted here. Thanks. -- Quiddity (talk) 07:06, 30 August 2010 (UTC)