User talk:Artwriter2023

Your submission at Articles for creation: Stella Meletopoulou (April 22)
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331dot (talk) 08:56, 22 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for reviewing my article.
 * Although, I respect your feedback I must mention that I have come across numerous similar published entries on wikipedia with a lot less available information and references. Therefore I feel that your decision to decline my entry is unfair.
 * As university staff, my understanding is that wikipedia entries should enlighten us about known and not-so known subjects and personalities. Does your decision to exclude my entry mean that wiki users should only read about famous individuals and widely known topics? I thought the contrary.
 * Your response would be highly appreciated.
 * Thank you for your time. Artwriter2023 (talk) 13:45, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Please read other stuff exists. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible to get inappropriate articles past us. We can only address what we know about. That an article exists does not necessarily mean that it meets standards, and does not mean that it was approved by anyone. If you want to use other articles as a model or guide, use those classified as good articles, which have been vetted by the community.
 * If you would like to help us out, you are welcome to identify other inappropriate articles you have seen for possible action. We could use the help.
 * The purpose of a Wikipedia article is to summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the subject, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability, such as a notable creative professional. It isn't for merely documenting the existence of a topic or telling the world about it.
 * If you can show that this artist meets the notability definition, and they receive significant coverage in independent sources, you are welcome to edit and resubmit the draft. 331dot (talk) 14:54, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * If you are editing as part of your job duties, the Terms of Use require you to make a formal paid editing disclosure. 331dot (talk) 14:55, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your answer, it is much appreciated and I totally understand all your points.
 * I am not editing as part of my job duties (i.e. I am not getting paid for it) but it is within my immediate interests to create articles about female art professionals in my country (Greece) and generate awareness as well as noticeability for their achievements. As you are well aware, there are still communities consisting of male-dominated professions. Sadly, the Greek art scene still falls under this category. I don't want to expand more on this as I am sure you fully understand what I am trying to say. I would really appreciate it if you could help me approve this article so I can continue creating awareness on more living female artists in countries such as Greece. Thank you very much indeed. Artwriter2023 (talk) 17:21, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * As you have resubmitted it, I will let other eyes look at your draft out of fairness to you.
 * I will point out that- while I applaud efforts to increase the visibility of the work of women in various professions- that is a promotional purpose. Wikipedia cannot be used to spread awareness or increase visibility- it is for documenting things that are already visible. To put it another way, Wikipedia does not lead, it follows. Topics must be discussed elsewhere before they can be on Wikipedia.
 * The draft submission process is voluntary for most. Though I highly advise you against it, you are free to place the draft in the encyclopedia yourself, but if you do you are rolling the dice as to if it will be subjected to one of the deletion processes(WP:CSD or WP:AFD).  If it is deleted, it will be harder to recreate it later, especially if it is deleted via an AFD discussion. 331dot (talk) 18:55, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I will also mention that the Greek Wikipedia may have different standards, as it is a separate project with its own policies and editors. The English Wikipedia tends to be stricter than those of other languages- but there is nothing special about it, it is not the 'premier' Wikipedia. What you have written may be completely acceptable on the Greek Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 18:59, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your response.
 * I understand that Wikipedia cannot be used to spread awareness or increase visibility as you correctly underline, however it is a resource and a channel of information for art profesionals, curators, contemporary art historians and critics when researching for female artists in Greece with some presence in international exhibitions (such as the Grand Palais in Paris). Currently, there is a big discussion about 'unseen' or 'overshadowed' female artists worldwide hence my persistence with this article. My colleagues and myself are planning to submit more articles on this subject in the near future.
 * I have edited my text and re-submitted it (not sure if you have seen it).
 * Any help would be appreciated and you have already been brilliant with your swift responses.
 * Thank you for your time once again. Artwriter2023 (talk) 19:58, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Stella Meletopoulou (September 1)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Asilvering was:

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asilvering (talk) 00:02, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Stella Meletopoulou
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 01:05, 1 February 2024 (UTC)