User talk:Asenseofdirection

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Thanks  D My Son ! Asenseofdirection (talk) 08:57, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Telx Technologies moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Telx Technologies, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. JK (talk) 19:55, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Asenseofdirection. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page Telx Technologies, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the request edit template);
 * disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Conflict of interest);
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
 * do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. JK (talk) 19:57, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi User:Jikaoli Kol, thank you for reviewing the telx page and moving it to draftspace so that others can help improve it. I'm not connected to Telx in any way but I will make sure to keep these policies in mind if I ever end up with a conflict of interest in the future (my songwriting career might take off!). Asenseofdirection (talk) 05:27, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

February 2020
Hello Asenseofdirection. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, such as the edit you made to Allied Fiber, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat SEO.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists, and if it does not, from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Asenseofdirection. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. ''This type of edit, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Allied_Fiber&oldid=938444246 is fairly typical of undisclosed paid editors. I'm aware that you've already claimed no conflict of interest with TelX, but I wanted to make sure you're aware of the terms of use, even if you are not receiving remuneration for creating this article.'' Vexations (talk) 03:29, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Vexations, thanks for making sure that I am aware of the terms of use. No, I'm not affiliated with any of the companies, individuals, organizations, etc associated with any of the edits or pages I've made. If I do have a conflict of interest I'll make sure to disclose it, and please feel free to reach out if I do end up accidentally breaking any rules or guidelines. Thanks!Asenseofdirection (talk) 03:57, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , you don't have to be affiliated with the subject to receive payment for creating an article. That was my question, not if you were affiliated.
 * Well, I guess that you really like reading datacenterdynamics.com, datacenterfrontier.com
 * and datacenterknowledge.com. We al have a hobby. Vexations (talk) 04:36, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * and datacenterknowledge.com. We al have a hobby. Vexations (talk) 04:36, 6 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Vexations, you and I both know what I meant by that. You have to some kind of affiliation to be paid by someone in the first place, even if that affiliation is just a handshake or a verbal agreement. But to answer your question:


 * No, I was not paid. No, I am not going to be paid. No, I do not know how to even ask someone at Allied Fiber to pay me, and if I did they'd probably say no at this point because no one ever asked me in the first place. I actually don't read any of those websites, but it turns out if you want to make a Wikipedia page, you have to use Google Search or something similar to find more than a couple of sources, otherwise you made a stub. I don't usually read books about Canadian art from 1983 either, but I've had to find sources for Wikipedia before.


 * I have no idea what someone must have done to tick you off, but there's no need for you to get sarcastic and short-tempered with me. Asenseofdirection (talk) 04:58, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , you showed up in my watchlist because you added wikilinks to articles about artists that I have have watchlisted. I was curious why anyone would write about Bau-Xi, because I know that gallery pretty well, and I happen to think they're, well, unremarkable at best. I found the Spanish article about them puzzling. So I became curious. Then I noticed that you had also been writing about a different type of company, while leaving out a lot of negative reporting that such companies typically hire a reputation management firm to suppress or overwhelm by mass-creating content that they can then insert into Wikipedia to bolster their reputation. Those reputation-management firms often employ undisclosed paid editors, who post articles that have been written for them. You matched that pattern when you posted an article in a single edit, so I asked for clarification. You provided a response that I found a bit vague and evasive. That's really all there is to it. Wikipedia is  just a hobby for me. I enjoy wring about topics that very few people care about and removing promotion and advertising from Wikipedia. If you enjoy writing about notable companies that provide the infrastructure of the internet, you should be able to do that. Please make sure to read WP:NCORP. Vexations (talk) 05:27, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Vexations respectfully, if you feel that the pages do not meet Wikipedia's standards for notability or neutrality, you really need to take the appropriate avenues to pursue that. These would include improving the articles yourself (WP:DIY), placing clean-up tags which point out specific issues, or even nominating the pages for deletion if you felt it were really that egregious. Likewise, if you have found a lot of negative reporting about any of these topics, you should either add that to the page, or you can provide me with links so that I can add them myself. Just because I didn't find them doesn't mean they don't exist, but since you're making accusations of bias, I'd love to see some examples of things that were omitted.


 * On the other hand, if the real reason you're accusing me of being a paid editor is because you personally don't feel Bau-Xi Gallery is remarkable enough for a page, then I think you may nearly be out of line.


 * The fact that you find the Spanish Wikipedia article about the gallery from 2013 puzzling is, well, it really isn't my concern. I don't speak Spanish so I have no idea if it's well written or not. It looks like the user who created the page is fairly prolific on Spanish Wikipedia (their user page says "240000 ediciones", which I think must 240,000 edits, whew). Beyond that I really can't tell you anything except it was made 7 years ago.


 * I posted the Bau-Xi page in a single edit too, because creating a page in a bunch numerous small edits in the source page just doesn't make sense. I think a lot of people do the same, but obviously not you. It's one thing to be diligent, it's another thing to accuse me first of undisclosed paid editing, and then of posting articles from management firms.


 * I do think I should be able to write articles about internet infrastructure companies, and art galleries, and artists in peace. I also realize that you probably really do just want to make sure that I am not up to anything nefarious, and I do appreciate the amount you've contributed to Wikipedia, but this seems misplaced at best.Asenseofdirection (talk) 05:50, 6 February 2020 (UTC)


 * I think vexations' questions are fair. I just removed a couple sources form Allied Fiber that were on a site that offers paid commercial promotion. We are always dubious about new editors who create company articles that have sourcing like this. It is just about protecting the quality of the wiki.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:29, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * That is fair ThatMontrealIP, it just seemed to veer into the ridiculous past a certain point. Thanks for cleaning up three sources from that page by the way. If you any other sources that you know to be unreliable, please axe them. Asenseofdirection (talk) 17:33, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I just took out another, datacenterknowledge.com, which offers paid marketing of products as magazine content. As you can see our concern is entirely valid, as Allied Fiber contained three promotional sources so far.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:40, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I really can't see it, because that still means that most of the sources I found are decent and the article itself is solid. Vexations very clearly accused me of posting a fluff piece or promotional page for Allied Fiber, and then implied that both the Bau Xi page and its Spanish counterpart (which very obviously isn't mine) were suspicious as well. That said, I'm not going to argue about whether you feel it's valid, because at this point I'd hate to have yet another person from Arts Wikipedia jump on my talk page. Asenseofdirection (talk) 17:50, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * there is no "Arts Wikipedia", at least formally. Just a bunch of well-intentioned editors looking out for the wiki. I think Bau-Xi article is fine as there is a lot of in-depth coverage. The two telecom articles you created are pretty weakly sourced in terms of depth of coverage, and one was moved to draft for that reason. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:52, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Oslo Grace has been accepted
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Thanks again, and happy editing! Zeromonk (talk) 07:46, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Allied Fiber


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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 00:59, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Bau-Xi Gallery


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Your draft article, Draft:Oslo Grace


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Your draft article, Draft:Telx Technologies


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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:46, 30 November 2020 (UTC)