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Pocket Monsters: The Origin
For an anime that has not yet been released in English and likely will never be released in English, the article should use the romanizations of the Japanese language character names rather than the English localizations. Also, this is Wikipedia and not Bulbapedia. Our template that properly formats Japanese text is not set up as "English (Japanese, English again but the English of the Japanese form)" but instead "English (Japanese, Romaji)".— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 12:32, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * My apologies for the improper use of the template, but I find the exclusive use of Japanese names to be misleading and impractical. Would you mind citing the Wikipedia policy against using officially localized character names in articles of unlocalized features use when you can? I am asking because I have certainly seen articles using this practice (examples here and here), and I think the article would be genuinely more informative to potential readers if it at least noted the localized names. As for Origin "likely [never releasing] in English", that's pure speculation of your part, if only considering the fact that this would be untypical of a Pokémon animation feature; but this is beside the point. --Ash Pokemaster (talk) 13:27, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * There is no policy. However, it should be common sense that if something is exclusively released in Japan it does not make any sense to refer to the fictional characters by the names they are solely known in English-speaking countries. And per WP:CRYSTAL I can call your assumption that there will be an English language release ufnounded.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 15:40, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * As this is on the verge of turning into an opinion war, I will respect your status as a more regular contributor and have it your way. I'm just a little surprised that you consciously choose to have the article be less informative for the sake of consistency and perhaps semantics -- as if adding the English name in a parenthesis or note is a big deal when it saves the entire section from being almost reluctant. I can only recommend removing references to "Wataru" and "Sakaki", as neither character is named in either the announcement trailer or PR info, and based on your claims, naming them is also an assumption. I'm also sure you know the special will be localized as per WP:COMMONSENSE, so, I won't pretend I believe what you claim to believe and try to convince you otherwise. Cheers. --Ash Pokemaster (talk) 16:05, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * "it's a special anime episode stop changing it just because it doesn't star Ash" Currently, the article suggests the feature is a special anime broadcast of Pokémon anime series. This is either a redundancy ("anime television special for the [...] anime"), or it does indeed imply the special is based on the anime series (in the same way as, say, Mewtwo Returns), when it's actually based on the games. Again, I'm only explaining my position because you seem to be a little too categorical; not trying to force it in any way. (This is indeed semantics). --Ash Pokemaster (talk) 16:22, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * What do you call Pokémon Chronicles then.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 22:09, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Have you watched it? It's side stories based on the Pokémon anime series universe, often using less prominent or current characters than the main cast (like Ritchie, Tracey, Misty or even Jimmy -- who is to Ethan what Ash is to Red). There's absolutely no comparison that can be drawn between The Origin and Chronicles neither in format, nor in scope. They are part of different series (Pokémon anime series versus Pokémon main game series), set in a different fictional universe, distributed in a completely different fashion (weekly 23 minute episodes versus TV broadcasted approx. 90 minute feature film). --Ash Pokemaster (talk) 22:25, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Stop changing things to the English localization names when you do not know how to properly edit the page.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 08:25, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Stop being a kid and letting your personal issues with me affect the article's quality. --Ash Pokemaster (talk) 08:29, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

September 2013
Your recent editing history at Pokémon Origins shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you don't violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:10, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi there, Narutoloveshinata5. I apologize for contributing to an edit war, but I'd like to ask for an opportunity of explaining myself. First of all, no English source refers to the character as Green, and you can find the source of the name "Blue" in Origins in the editing history (my words: "If you paid more attention to the English PR, you'd see that his name is confirmed as Blue.") as well as this link (press release segment: "As he explores the Kanto region, he’ll encounter the nefarious Team Rocket, battle his rival Blue, and challenge the Pokémon League."). With that aside, I will try to explain the situation of the edit war as well, as well as the reason why there's no need to "cite the source" regarding Blue's name.


 * I'm not sure if you are involved with the Pokémon community, but Blue's (the Generation I rival's) name is a common issue of debate. The character has been referred to as Blue in all localized Pokémon games, in the same way that "Kasumi" has been referred to as Misty or "Takeshi" has been referred to as Brock -- some fans however tend to prefer using his original Japanese name, Green (likely due to the colour-based scheme of the naming). Ryulong appears to be one of those fans, and hence the edit war is a result of his refusal to accept the character's official name -- especially after the localization of the special feature has been announced. You can refer to the edit history as well as his attitude towards me in my talk page, and you can see that none of my edits were of hurting nature to the article, and all of his reverts on me were due to his bias to my person and his personal preference towards unofficial information.


 * Finally, I want to say that I feel a little insulted on your remark and warning to me without prior research on the matter. I understand that Ryulong is a more regular contributor, which entitles him the benefit of doubt, but please realize that I'm also only trying to help, and he's preventing me from doing just that. I won't participate on the edits regarding Blue's name anymore, but I do hope that the article is changed to reflect the factual information. --Ash Pokemaster (talk) 10:58, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that reply. if you want, you can speak directly with Ryulong, discuss the edit on the talk page, or, after a 24-hour period, you can boldly make the edit, while citing a source that confirms the name change from Green to Blue (although I've been visiting the Pokémon fansites, and many of them call Green that while calling Takeshi Brock. You could cite the Pokémon English website and use it as a source if needed). If you do make an edit, it would probably be a good idea to add a footnote in order to explain the change. Thanks and happy editing. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:12, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Hakase
Holy mackerel stop obsessing over this one point. I'm living in Japan and "hakase" is what is used when someone is a scientific researcher.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 20:04, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It means what it means regardless of your residence. :) And you can't seriously talk about obsession when you've been the one to repeatedly revert correct edits just because they weren't in-line with your opinion (and not even bothering to look on sources). Anyway, I apologise if I have been rude in my messages. I think it's pretty pointless to continue arguing over semantics and I'll only ask you that you don't revert my edits without properly looking if they are right or wrong. Thank you for your cooperation and see you around. --Ash Pokemaster (talk) 05:25, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

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