User talk:Asianchina

unblock discussion
I am inclined to give a 2nd chance if it is OK w/ -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 09:44, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I also, having looked at all the edits this account has created, am inclined to give a second chance. With the proviso that further vandalism would be dealt with firmly and without further warning. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 10:29, 23 February 2018 (UTC) Comment stricken in view of later comments below on this page. --Anthony Bradbury"talk"  17:17, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I am little troubled by what they wrote in the first unblock request (the last thing I did on Wiki that I remeber was saying that Hong Kongs Main Language was Cantonese). I checked all edits made by this account and there is no such edit. This may be a sockpuppet of a blocked account. In the second unblock request, they say I do not want to go and make another account, which implies they think it is OK to create new account when unblocked.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  10:02, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Judging by the time edits were made, it might be this edit by . : Can we compare this account to ?  Vanjagenije  (talk)  10:09, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * .--Bbb23 (talk) 13:28, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * ❌.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:40, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Can you, please, show us that edit where you was saying that Hong Kongs Main Language was Cantonese?  Vanjagenije  (talk)  14:15, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

@Vanjagenije It was on an edit for the China and the United Nations page. Also this is my first account and I do not have any other accounts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asianchina (talk • contribs) 17:20, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Those are your edits: Special:Contributions/Asianchina. The only edit you made on the China and the United Nations article is this one. It has nothing to do with the Cantonese language and/or Hong Kong. Can you explain it?  Vanjagenije  (talk)  17:31, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

@Vanjagenije Hmmm Idk then. I could have been signed out when I made that edit. It was 2 years ago so its hard to remember.


 * I think we should unblock. I can easily believe that an editor can have misremembered what he or she did two years ago, and I can find no sign of an edit fitting the description given of the supposed edit in the article China and the United Nations anywhere remotely near the time of the block. The edit by Kid299 seems totally irrelevant, not only because of the negative CheckUser result but also because it was not even close to being the last thing that the account had done, and I can't imagine any reason why the editor would claim it was if in fact it wasn't. Really, having checked all the edits from this account and also everything else I can think of that might be relevant, such as the editing history of the article referred to over a considerable time round about the time this editor was blocked, I think by far the most likely explanation is that the editor has incorrectly remembered a fairly trivial incident two years ago. Often when editors ask me about things I did two months ago I don't remember them accurately. I agree that "I do not want to go and make another account" is a matter for some concern, but we can warn Asianchina that doing so is not permitted. Here goes: Asianchina, creating one or more new accounts while your old one is blocked is not permitted by Wikipedia policy. If you do that and are found out then all accounts that you are known to have used will be blocked, with far less chance that they will be unblocked than there is now. There, that's done. The only other thing that is left is a very short history of making a few trivial, run of the mill, vandalism edits, two years ago, and it is very easy for someone to change their attitude in that time, especially for a young person. I see no good reason at all not to unblock, especially bearing in mind that if there is any more vandalism we can easily block again.
 * & Materialscientist any comments? (Materialscientist has pings didabled in his preferences, so I'll use the old fashioned method of posting to his talk page.) The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 17:08, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I do not see how they can clearly remember making an edit some two years ago, as stated in the first unblock request, unless they did so. And given that it was not made from this account it must have been from elsewhere, although I concede it may have been made while logged out. I would prefer to remain entirely neutral here. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 17:16, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The edit never took place, unless it took place at a time remote from the time when the account was active. As for "I do not see how they can clearly remember ... unless they did so", who says that they can "clearly" remember it? He or she may vaguely seem to remember it. Indeed, the editor says "It was 2 years ago so its hard to remember", which makes perfect sense to me. Also, people very often think they remember something from a long time ago when in fact they have confused facts in their mind and their memory is grossly inaccurate. Moreover, even if he or she did make that edit logged out or from another account, how much does it matter? We are talking about trivial edits from years ago, from someone who says that he or she has matured and will not do the same again, and who could easily have used a sockpuppet now rather than requesting an unblock if he or she intended to be dishonest or disruptive. No matter what happened two years ago, surely we can assume good faith and give this editor a chance to put that behind himself or herself and move on. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 17:29, 3 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Unblock I'm satisfied user is ready for 2nd chance.--Dloh cier ekim  (talk) 17:34, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I have no objections to unblock.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  17:44, 3 March 2018 (UTC)