User talk:Asthenization-Creator

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Yeshivah of Flatbush
The most basic tenet of Wikipedia is not truth, but verifiability. The standards set by Wikipedia require reliable and verifiable sources for all statements. The more strongly-worded a statement, the better the sources need to be. The edits that you have made to the article simply do not meet the most basic standards of reliability and verifiability, and will be removed if inserted. If you can find articles that discuss the issues you have raised, I will be more than happy to assist you in adding appropriate documentation. Until then, any such material will be removed. Any further additions without sources will be treated as vandalism. Your repeated reversions are already likely violations of WP:3RR, and will subject you to a block from editing on Wikipedia. I will be more than happy to remove other unsourced material from the article. Alansohn 20:37, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * 1) The Ivrit b'Ivrit source is regarding the author's general opinions about the system, not how it is implemented or its effectiveness at Flatbush. Furthermore, the source states "Ivrit b'Ivrit chumash curricula, by their very nature, assume that students will have attained a certain proficiency in Hebrew reading and comprehension by the time they begin their text-based Chumash studies in second grade. For children who, because of gaps in Hebrew language skills, or because of learning disabilities, have not yet acquired the necessary language or cognitive skills, the learning of chumash, which should be an exciting and fulfilling experience, becomes a difficult, confusing task." addressing rather specific cases at rather specific points in a child's school career, not fundamental flaws in the methodology or its use and success at Flatbush. 2) The source cited is a blog, stating the author's suppositions regarding Stadtmauer's departure and does not provide any primary sources of its own. The source does not meet the WP:RS standard. I do agree that we need to be sure that the article's description of his departure based on the article in The Forward should be verified to ensure that it properly matches the description in the Wikipedia article. 3) While I condemn Goldstein's actions in their entirety as one of the most grotesque forms of chillul Hashem, the word "terrorist" has a specific definition that may or may not be met in Goldstein's case. The existing description of Goldstein as " perpetrator of the Cave of the Patriarchs massacre" more than adequately describes his role. As such, the changes will be reverted.