User talk:Aszx5000/Archive 2

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AFDs
Hello, Aszx5000,

I've noticed that you have been closing AFD discussions days early. There are a limited circumstances where an AFD discussion can be closed early (read Speedy keep) but you can't close a discussion after three or four days just because there is general agreement among participants on a certain outcome. You say you don't want to "prolong" the discussion but there is a reason why AFDs last for four days and as a NAC closer you have no power to just close a discussion halfway through because you believe the discussion has ended. Please also review Non-admin closure so you can better understand the limited instances where an NAC closure is appropriate. I'm posting this notice now because if this continues and someone takes issue with your closures, you could be prevented from acting on AFD discussions. I've seen it happen before with other editors. Better to be corrected now than to be topic banned in the future. I'd hate to see this happen because, in general, I find your efforts very helpful. Just realize that as a NAC closer, there are limits to what you should do. Thanks for all of your contributions. Liz Read! Talk! 08:18, 20 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Oh, sorry about that. Am hugely appreciative of the efforts of admins to clear the queues out so wanted to do my bit, but understand the points you are making and will amend my efforts accordingly.  Thanks again. Aszx5000 (talk) 08:31, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Sod off
I am sorry Mr. Ivandjiiski, despite your desire for anonymity, you are a textbook case of Wikipedia notability (link)

Whatever your temper or disposition, you can keep these idiotic remarks to yourself, if only because our policies require you to. DFlhb (talk) 21:16, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Autopatrolled granted
Hi Aszx5000, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the autopatrolled user right to your account. This means that pages you create will automatically be marked as 'reviewed', and no longer appear in the new pages feed. Autopatrolled is assigned to prolific creators of articles, where those articles do not require further review, and may have been requested on your behalf by someone else. It doesn't affect how you edit; it is used only to manage the workload of new page patrollers.

Since the articles you create will no longer be systematically reviewed by other editors, it is important that you maintain the high standard you have achieved so far in all your future creations. Please also try to remember to add relevant WikiProject templates, stub tags, categories, and incoming links to them, if you aren't already in the habit; user scripts such as Rater and StubSorter can help with this. As you have already shown that you have a strong grasp of Wikipedia's core content policies, you might also consider volunteering to become a new page patroller yourself, helping to uphold the project's standards and encourage other good faith article writers.

Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! I'm going alittle out-of-process here as we won't normally consider anyone with less than 20 articles created, but I feel the quality of the few you have created is enough for me to bend the rules a bit. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:05, 20 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Wow, thank you for that Beeblebrox! Aszx5000 (talk) 19:12, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Stop your edit-warring
You seem to be too close to the subject. Don't worry, it is not like anyone is going to take away her world record. 2001:2020:329:A113:202B:CD52:5E28:C7F3 (talk) 14:16, 11 August 2023 (UTC)


 * When an editor engage in an edit-war, one can get blocked. Around two more instances of removing the same information, will quite likely get you blocked. 2001:2020:329:A113:202B:CD52:5E28:C7F3 (talk) 14:18, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * There seems a lot of sockpuppeting at the Kristin Harila blp to turn it into an attack page. Aszx5000 (talk) 14:24, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Kristin Harila
Hello! Please delete the Controversy section from the Kristin Harila page. Regards Szelma W (talk) 12:54, 15 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I see that now and have reverted them per the Talk Page discussion. thanks. Aszx5000 (talk) 12:56, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Introduction to contentious topics
–– Formal Dude  (talk)  16:33, 21 August 2023 (UTC)


 * The TP of Rich Men North of Richmond has the warning on it already, but thanks for pointing it out. Aszx5000 (talk) 18:56, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

SATOR square, Markovich translation
You are completely right, Markovich does not have "the". I added it in the citation ino order to make clear that, obviously, while M. intended "checks" as a verb, he also intended "toils and tortures" not as verbs (the commas suggested that) but instead as the object of "checks": Latin words can only be translated in this sense. I see that you also tried to solve the ambiguity, using "keeps in check" instead of "checks" - but this also is not respectful of Markovich's original text... What do you think of "The sower Horus/Harpocrates checks [the] toils and tortures"? I find this would be accurate enough while not inducing readers in any misunderstanding... Or, "The sower Horus/Harpocrates checks [=keeps in check the] toils and tortures" which is perhaps better English? Signo (talk) 13:50, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Yashwanth Naik
For a better understanding, take a look at Sockpuppet investigations/Amansharma111. Thank you 111.92.118.50 (talk) 03:18, 4 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Well spotted. Aszx5000 (talk) 16:25, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

"Climber (climbing)" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Climber_(climbing)&redirect=no Climber (climbing)] has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:35, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Query about Draft:Chris Jones
Hi Aszx5000 - I saw your comments on my draft for Chris Jones. I did read the WP:NCLIMBER sources and I still think Chris qualifies and I think many of the sources I pulled also have justification.

"Articles about contemporary climbers should include reliable sources from the main climbing media (older/historical climbers may not always be referenced in the climbing media) per Category:Climbing magazines. Climbing WP:BLPs, whose main notability is based on climbing, but who have no record in these publications, are unlikely to be notable.

Quality sources from the climbing media (with well-regarded editorial control), who maintain online-accessible archives"

Given the era that Jones was active as a climber, I think I did a relatively good job of finding the contributions regarding his climbs in the AAJ and some other online references to the era. Plus, the AAJ had pretty strict limitations on who was permitted as a member and which climbs were merited for inclusion in the 60's and 70's. Jones was admired by his peers in that time period.

I know that he was probably discussed in other climbing magazines that have since fallen apart (well before the internet). There are plenty of articles created about other climbers in that era who have far less documentation and may not have done as many groundbreaking alpine climbs.

Anyway, I don't mind the edits you contributed - I think it tightened up the article and arguably I had tried to pull more justifications for notability with unnecessary quotations. Also, I'm sorry if your talk page isn't the appropriate location for me to argue my case. I'm still learning the ins and outs of Wikipedia article creation. Feel free to delete this as needed or shift it to my talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mellowish126 (talk • contribs) 20:53, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Female climbers
Hi Aszx5000. I see you've made several categories for female climbers by nationality. Could you please mark these as non-diffusing with the non-diffusing subcategory template? Any people who are in the Category:Female climbers or its subcategories should also be in Category:Climbers or one of its subcategories. See WP:CATGENDER for the guideline. Thanks, gobonobo  + c 17:10, 16 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Understand and will do that. Thanks. Aszx5000 (talk) 17:19, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks for that ! Aszx5000 (talk) 19:04, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

"The" in article titles
Hi - in general we don't put "The" in article titles. So for example we have the Mona Lisa, the United Kingdom, the North Face of Everest, etc. Therefore if the article on the Dawn Wall is created it should be the Dawn Wall, not The Dawn Wall (though the latter would be acceptable as a redirect). See WP:THE for more details. — Voice of Clam (talk) 20:07, 18 November 2023 (UTC)


 * The climbing route is actually called "The Dawn Wall" and not "Dawn Wall". It is a quirk of the naming of routes on the southeast face of El Capitan (e.g. The Wall of Early Morning Light and The Reticent Wall). See the main climbing route databases here, and here. I don't know how this started, but that is the actual name. thanks. Aszx5000 (talk) 20:25, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * And of course the most prominent example on El Capitan of this naming convention is The Nose (El Capitan), which is the correct name per here and here. Aszx5000 (talk) 20:30, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Several of the references for El Capitan refer to it simply as Dawn Wall, e.g.  . If the page were ever to be expanded from a redirect, it would need to be debated about the correct title, but it seems to me that Dawn Wall should not be simply tagged as incorrect. — Voice of Clam (talk) 11:09, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * There are many sources who drop "The" from "The Nose" (and other El Cap routes), but the actual names (per the databases and Yosemite guidebooks) have the "The". Anyway, no problem and I think I see your issue now.  If a bigger article is developed, we can have the fuller discussion then. thanks. Aszx5000 (talk) 11:41, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

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Category:History of climbing has been nominated for merging
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RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I
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 * Proposal 2, initiated by, provides for the addition of a text box at Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
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"athletes" categorization
Hi, thank you for your contributions related to climbing. I noticed some of the climbing pages you created have "athlete" categories, for example Category:French female climbers was a member of Category:French female athletes. I don't think this is correct, because if you click on Category:French female athletes you can see "This category is for competitors within the sport of athletics, comprising track and field, road running, cross country running and racewalking."

If there is a category for "French female skyrunners", you could potentially add that to "French female athletes", but for climbers as a whole, I don't think it should be added to the "athletes" category because that's only for events mentioned in the sport of athletics page. If you just want to say that they are "athletes" in the sense of participating in physical activities, Category:French sportswomen should do the trick (which I can see you have already added).

Thanks, --Habst (talk) 14:01, 18 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you for that Habst, and that makes sense to me now. Aszx5000 (talk) 14:03, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Reverted edit on 19 March 2024
Hey there! Just wanted to let you know that I’ve reverted your recent edit here on Talk:Dune: Part Two - please do not add replies to closed discussions that are marked with the hat template. However, feel free to add the reverted reply as a new thread on the talk page. TIA, ‍ Masterofthebrick  ‍ talk  23:35, 18 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I didn't re-open the closed discussion but added a comment outside of the hat which is not by my understanding a problem? Reverting and editors talk page comments should only be done in very very (very) rare and specific circumstances .... I don't think this is one of them. Aszx5000 (talk) 13:13, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
 * From my understanding 'discussion' here refers to the entire thread belonging to the topic in question, which includes any subsequent replies underneath the header. The main reasoning behind the revert was to keep the heated discussion closed and to prevent the conflict from potentially escalating between the previous users. Under normal circumstances I would've shifted your reply to a new topic instead of removing it entirely, but I felt it more suitable to clarify this with you first. In any case, if there are sufficient sources available for the proposed section then the discussion in question will be able to proceed more efficiently. ‍ Masterofthebrick  ‍ talk  13:45, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
 * No, it would be inappropriate to re-open a closed discussion (although some closed discussions can be reopened), but you can visit WP:ANI to see many closed discussions that have additional comments under them.
 * It is not big deal to me, but some will get very upset on other editors editing (and particularly deleting) their TP comments, which is a big no no (per WP:OTHERSCOMMENTS. 19:42, 19 March 2024 (UTC) Aszx5000 (talk) 19:42, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. ‍ Masterofthebrick  ‍ talk  22:34, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins
Hi there! Phase I of the Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:

See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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Your GA nomination of Cobra Crack
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 * Thanks and look forward to your review :) Aszx5000 (talk) 21:41, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Aid climbing
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 * Great and look forward to getting your feedback. I will respond to any questions as they arise. thanks. 06:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC) Aszx5000 (talk) 06:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Dreamtime (climb)
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 * Thank you for that and look forward to your review. Aszx5000 (talk) 23:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Rock-climbing equipment
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 * Didn't realise a list-article could not be GA, but will take your advice to submit to WP:FLC. thanks. Aszx5000 (talk) 17:23, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Rhapsody (climb)
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Your GA nomination of Rhapsody (climb)
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 * Thanks and look forward to your review. Aszx5000 (talk) 10:15, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Request for Article Review
I hope this message finds you well. I have recently noticed your diligent work in reviewing pages on Wikipedia and would like to kindly request if you could review my article "Cherry on Top" and "Biniverse: The First Solo Concert" Acrom12 (talk) 18:16, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Wimbledon
How is one FA (article) about a list of Wimbledon champions relevant? Can you find other articles with bluelinks and redlinks in the tables? Delectable1 (talk) 20:48, 1 July 2024 (UTC)