User talk:Atama/Archive 10

TParis
G'day Atama. TParis has you listed as an editor from whom he will accept a nudge that he might not be acting as an admin in the right way. I have been involved with him in a conflict for the past couple of weeks that he is prosecuting way too personally. The latest incident is particularly disappointing as it was essentially an attempt by him to restart the conflict after it had fallen into a lull (diff), and an attempt by two other editors on either side of the divide to approach a resolution (see Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Epeefleche until TParis' attempt to close down the discussion, which was shortly followed by the diff above).

At the moment, I'd like to ask that you talk with TParis about the above diff, which was a clear attempt to restart the drama machine and probably WP:BAITING, and ask for him to back off. If he does not, then I'll leave it to your consideration as to whether this is now grounds for recall, but, personally, I have a high expectations of behaviour for admins, and, on top of everything else, WP:BAITING is a clear breach of that.

In terms of TParis' criteria:
 * 1) I have previously discussed the issue with him at his talkpage at User_talk:TParis/Archive_9 and User_talk:TParis/Archive_9.
 * 2) The issues at hand have been extensively discussed at ANI, where TParis proposed a onesided interaction ban, which I view essentially as an attempt to silence me.
 * 3) There has been time to cool down since the issue started, but TParis can not let go.
 * 4) In terms of actions as an administrator, TParis closed my initial complaint against ANI with poor wording, that has been discussed at User_talk:TParis/Archive_9, where I repeatedly reject what I read as a suggestion that I follow Epeefleche around and fix his problems. I have since had to keep repeatedly saying that I'm not interesting in doing that at, for example, Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Epeefleche. The ANI made by TParis at ANI was also made from an administrative perspective.
 * 5) The key policy issue here is WP:CIVIL.

As I said, I'm leaving any decisions about whether TParis' behaviour is not what is expected of an admin in your hands. However, I would ask that you suggest that he consider stopping.

I am also posting this message to the other admins on TParis' recall list. Also, I am scaling back my involvement with wikipedia, so I might not see replies very quickly. If you have something you want me to respond to, I'd like to ask that you e-mail me at "daniel.judd@gmail.com". Cheers. &tilde;danjel [ talk &#124; contribs ] 14:45, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll look into this, thank you for being so thorough in your explanation. I will make a suggestion to TParis one way or the other based on my conclusions. I will send you an email if I have any questions. --  At am a  頭 17:39, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I was very slow to respond to this, and I apologize. I've looked over TParis's actions in the diffs you provided and looked around in a few places tangential to those discussions, and what I found wasn't anything worthy of recalling an administrator. On the other hand, some of the behavior wasn't ideal. My advice to TParis would simply be to disengage from discussions involving you, as by TParis's he has difficulty maintaining decorum in such discussions. However, I see that multiple people have already given him that advice, and he has agreed to follow it, so hopefully there will be less drama for all involved from this point forward. --  At am a  頭  22:18, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of List of papabili in the 2013 papal conclave for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of papabili in the 2013 papal conclave is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/List of papabili in the 2013 papal conclave until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. -- --JamboQueen (talk) 08:33, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

AN/I discussion
Hi Atama. Thanks for your comments on the Derwick Associates AN/I. Sorry to bring it back from the archives but I felt that I should alert you that I had responded and appreciated your input. Justiciero1811 (talk) 21:29, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * No, it's not a problem. I appreciate your courtesy in informing me. I'll have a look at the article when I have time. --  At am a  頭 15:52, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Mail
Blethering  Scot  23:42, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Your input is requested
Greetings, Atama! If we have not met, I'm. I've come here to ask you to take part in the survey at User:AutomaticStrikeout/Are admins interested in a RfB?. I am trying to gauge the general level of interest that administrators have in running for cratship, as well as pinpoint the factors that affect that interest level. Your input will be appreciated. Happy editing, AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • Sign AAPT) 02:35, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Ellylldan
Hi, it appears the band Ellylldan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellylldan

has had it's page taken down by you. You cite "04:33, 2 February 2012 Atama (talk | contribs) deleted page Ellylldan (Expired PROD, concern was: No evidence of meeting WP:MUSIC. No mention of the band in a quick Google News search.)"

There are numerous references to Ellylldan on a quick google search.

2nd down is the bandcamp page associated with the artist. 4th down is the facebook page although it's not very active these days. 8th down is a myspace page 9th down is a last.fm page with numerous plays.

If you could reinstate the page that would be great.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.174.143.42 (talk) 07:37, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I will undelete the page, because proposed deletions can be undone upon request. However, I'll be adding it to articles for deletion for a deletion discussion immediately afterward, because none of the sources you cite come close to establishing any sort of notability for the band. Thank you. --  At am a  頭 16:43, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, I'd like to note, every single reference you mentioned was already on the page when it was deleted. Not a single one of those is a reliable source. --  At am a  頭 16:44, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The deletion discussion can be found here. --  At am a  頭 16:55, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice, Atama!
Atama, I appreciate your help! Please keep me posted. It's difficult when a total stranger feels free to misrepresent the facts, or post inapproriate info. The photo I removed was taken without permission, and I NEVER signed a release. Please allow me to protect my image from someone who sneaks up during an interview, and photographs me while I'm talking. Thank you again! Cindy Morgan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.108.205.163 (talk) 02:33, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I very strongly suggest that you talk with Moonriddengirl, she is the most knowledgeable person I know about copyrights and how people can protect their privacy on Wikipedia. She's also a fantastic person to talk to and very understanding. --  At am a  頭 19:52, 18 July 2013 (UTC)