User talk:Atefrat/Archive 1

Archive 1 - Year 2011

Mahane Yehuda Market
0 1  2  3  4  5  6 That's strange. The link worked the last time I checked it, but today it doesn't. I replaced the link with a working one. Thanks for your patience. Yoninah (talk) 15:43, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Illit


A tag has been placed on Illit requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.) or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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 * There are already articles for other bus companies of Israel: Afikim, Dan, Egged, Egged Ta'avura, Kavim, Metrodan Beersheba, Metropoline, Nateev Express, Superbus, Connex. All are listed in Template:Transportation in Israel  Illit stood out in red as the only one without a page.
 * Illit is not the smallest and it is still growing. The article is written in a manner identical to those of other bus companies.
 * Useful information, no advertisement, no bias. What reason could there be to delete it?  @Efrat 08:14, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks to Phil Bridger for removing the speedy deletion tag with his correct assessment: (contest speedy deletion - operating scheduled bus services is an indication of importance/significance) --@Efrat (talk) 06:03, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Use of S-cedilla U+015F vs. S-comma U+0219
You might be right, but, in this case, this is an issue with all wikiarticles that started using Romanian S-comma. About your (welcome) proposal (a notice at the start of the article), you should contact an admin to see what (and how) it can be done.

Thank you for your message!

(Rgvis (talk) 06:41, 20 July 2011 (UTC))

License tagging for File:IR2011bmap.PNG
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 * Done --@Efrat (talk) 11:11, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

License tagging for File:IR2011map.png
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 * Done --@Efrat (talk) 11:11, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

License tagging for File:IR2011mapc.png
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 * And done --@Efrat (talk) 11:11, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Re: Refs
Hi Atefrat! It is both a new thing and a matter of preference :) it basically makes the body text cleaner for editors and puts all the refs in the same place (convenient for editors). Readers don't see any difference. It's also new because this was not technologically possible a few months ago. By the way, you might be interested in this parser I have created. —Ynhockey (Talk) 15:11, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Cool! As for your parser, check this url "http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=233666" for a bug when an article is co-written by 2 authors.  Performing unauthorized marriage is severely frowned upon here in Israel!  Also check the url "http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=188828" which returns a mis-capitlization of the author's last name.  Alon may be miffed!  --@Efrat (talk) 11:08, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Re: Jerusalem Light Rail
Hey LeinaD, nice video you put in, but you do know that the Jerusalem Light Rail is now carrying passengers. I hope you can change the video with an updated version to take that into account. --@Efrat (talk) 09:47, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but it's impossible :/ I was in Israel around Wikimania 2011 and now I'm back home. I was very disappointed that just a few days after my visit in Jerusalem, trams have began service with passengers. Leina D   ( t )  15:49, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Never mind, someone else is bound to make a vid with the tram full of passengers. Come back to Israel soon, you're always welcome here.  --@Efrat (talk) 04:48, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Hehe... thank you, indeed I hope to visit again Israel :-) Leina D  ( t )  11:50, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

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Sorry sorry sorry
Some unexpected minor surgery Friday and I forgot all about your request. Away for a few hours, hopefully I'll remember to look later today! Dougweller (talk) 07:06, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * First get well. I wish you a speedy recovery.--@Efrat (talk) 07:44, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm ok, tiny pains from the surgery. Not exactly good news about the links, but I really think you can do better as this isn't really a religious article anyway, there m Jewish Virtual Library - some might say yes, but more likely that it would have to be taken case by case, so is the article a reliable source? You could use it I guess and see if anyone objects. Bibarch.com - probably Betamunah.org - we rarely accept personal websites as reliable sources (you have read WP:RS and WP:VERIFY? Sometimes if the author is an acknoweldged expert, but the books I checked that mention him are self-published, which makes him even more dubious from our point of view. Godisfaithful.not - nope, same reason Israelahistoryof ditto Israel tourist site - again, a personal website Bible.org - what would make Wayne Stiles a reliable source?

Try to find reliably published sources, start with which is just a GBooks search of books with previews. Dougweller (talk) 14:37, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * TY, DW. You gave me quite a bit to chew on.  This may take a while!--@Efrat (talk) 05:32, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Re: Template:Comparison of cooking fats
Hi Efrat, thanks for your message. The noinclude tag in this case, simply prevents the reflist from copying itself the article where the template is used. In the Soybean oil article for example, the reflist appeared twice on the page and generated a cite-error before my fix. The noinclude tag was the fastest and simplest way to correct this error. If you would like to keep the reference attached to the bottom of the template (while viewing articles), I would be more than happy to return and create a reference group to address that requirement. -- WikHead (talk) 09:19, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for answering me so fast. The noinclude tag is certainly a useful one to remember when creating a reflist inside a template.  I like it.  TY for the lesson.
 * You're welcome! Take a look at how the template appears on the Soybean oil article. The reference is not attached to the bottom of the template itself, but appears at the bottom of the page in the usual references section. If you would like to keep the reference and the template together, please let me know, as it would only take me a few seconds to make the change. :) -- WikHead (talk) 09:34, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I prefer template refs to be kept inside the template and article refs at the bottom of the page. But what is the majority view on refs in or out of templates?--@Efrat (talk) 09:39, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe either way is perfectly correct. I've made the change to the template to keep it all together, as you can see by tooking at the Soybean oil article. If you decide you would rather have it the other way, you can always undo the last change I made to the template. :) -- WikHead (talk) 09:53, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * reflist|group="lower-alpha" Interesting.  Gotta write that one down!  As far as tis particular template, I like it now but I'll leave it to you and others to make the final decision.--@Efrat (talk) 10:06, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Lower-alpha is just one of a few different styles. A simple name like "note" can be used as well. If I'm able to find the document that shows the different group styles, I'll make sure to send you the link. It has been a pleasure working with you. Have yourself a fine day Efrat, and happy editing! :) -- WikHead (talk) 10:17, 20 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Ahha, I found the link(s). Good information about reference grouping and styles can be found at WP:REFGROUP, and Help:Cite link labels. Have fun! -- WikHead (talk) 21:06, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Re: User:Atefrat/way of the patriarchs
Hi Atefrat,

You are right that the article has many problematic sources. The Jewish Virtual Library is a reliable source. The other ones look self-published, but I am sure you can check this and find out. Technically you don't have to source absolutely everything to great sources at first, but it would be better if you did—and you'd also have a definite DYK here as an added bonus. Have you checked out any books from Ariel Publishing ? I am sure they have a book related to this topic. The other issue with the article is formatting, which I can help with (although time is scarce). I will try to get in some work on it sometime soon. Cheers, Ynhockey (Talk) 10:36, 26 November 2011 (UTC)