User talk:Athaenara/Archive 10

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Deletion user: Rutger Smits
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Hi, I created my user page in response to the suggestion that I should the editor of my profile page. Having read the reason for deletion, it is difficult to understand where you draw the line. Can you undelete the sections of the page that ARE allowable, so at least I have profile page? Thank you 144.132.242.194 (talk) 11:35, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

WordTheatre Wikipedia Page
→  in re:  →  see also: 

Dear Athaenara:

I am an intern at WordTheatre, a 501c3 non-profit organization dedicated to inspiring a love of language and literature by presenting live performances of contemporary short stories. We feature renowned actors who bring to life exquisitely crafted stories penned by the finest authors working today. A while back, another intern created a Wikipedia page for our organization, and I saw that you deleted the page. We are new to Wikipedia, and would love the opportunity to explain what WordTheatre is all about in the best article we can. If you could tell us why you deleted our page that would be wonderful.

Thank you,

Nicole Gustafson Intern -- 310 915 5150 www.WordTheatre.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicole Gustafson (talk • contribs) 19:32, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Requesting undeletion of Prologis Inc.
→  in re:  → '' see also: previous August 2011 discussion at User talk:Athaenara/Archive 9

Hello Athaenara,

I joined Prologis' corporate communications group a few months ago and am keen to restore the company's Wikipedia entry. It appears you deleted the posting due to violations of Wikipedia's policies: 23:55, 8 August 2011 Athaenara (talk | contribs) deleted page Prologis (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: more at User talk:Prologis - please read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a soapbox)

I would be happy to make any necessary changes to re-instate Prologis. Please advise.

Sincerely, James Larkin jlarkin@prologis.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.76.147.114 (talk) 04:12, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Neutrality/Conflict warning on page
Athaenara, in March 2010, you posted a neutrality/conflict of interest warning on the page for Barker/DZP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barker/DZP It appears that the article was rewritten according to your specifications to eliminate the promotional aspects of the content. The warning however has not been deleted. Please examine the page and let me know if you agree that the article is now in compliance with Wikipedia standards. Many thanks, Barkerdzp (talk) 23:34, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Undelete request (Litera)
Hi Athaenara. I notice that you deleted http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litera on 21 June 2010. Any chance that page could be restored? I would like to modify the page so that it is neutral in tone and content and does not serve as a promotion. Kind regards, Dan Dillon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inoldland (talk • contribs) 13:57, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Per the 21 June 2010 WP:UND discussion, Litéra was undeleted and moved to its current location at User:Docexpert101/Litéra by that day.


 * If you (director of marketing for the company) still think some version of it belongs in Wikipedia article space, the discussions in Requests for undeletion/Archive 12, User talk:Docexpert101, User talk:Athaenara/Archive 8, User talk:ICPO3, and Articles for deletion/List of Litéra Software remain highly pertinent. – Athaenara  ✉  14:02, 19 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Athaenara. The entry on Litera has been substantivley revised in response to the promotional considerations. I greatly appreciate your help. - Dan Dillon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inoldland (talk • contribs) 19:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

DJ Jose Solis
(Dec 14, Fri, 2012) Dear administrator, we are members of the managing team of artist DJ Jose Solis, we were creating his wikipedia artist professional page and we received a notification about the deletion of the page. We are not attempting to advertise something, etc. We just want to create his wikipedia page, many partners have a page on Wikipedia, why not him? Examples: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferry_Corsten http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_van_Buuren — Preceding unsigned comment added by DJoseSolis (talk • contribs) 18:22, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * When I deleted a Jose Solis page in February 2011, it was a redirect to a José Solis page about a Salvadoran footballer (not your DJ) which had been deleted per WP:CSD (click link for what that means).


 * I don't know what you think a "wikipedia artist professional page" is, but you need to read and understand the Conflict of interest guideline.  – Athaenara  ✉  01:25, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Tuning Companies
→  in re: and user   →  see also: and user  


 * Page Deletion

Salutations. We have not met before but you took action to delete a page I was creating this morning which was going to be an index of companies in the Car Tuning/After Market Improvement Space. The taxonomy of Wikipedia is accommodating for providing listings of relevant topics that support and/or compliment areas of knowledge. Actually, the cross indexing of such information is highly critical to the research needs of individuals who are studying car tuning (I am a graduate student in the field of design) and within the boundaries of Wikipedia norms and policies. In this case, the entire topic is one in the eye of popular culture (there are few design reasons for implementing such improvements) and therefore cross referencing with other areas (like a listing of valid companies) makes sense for a variety of reason. As a researcher I find this logic used to deleted a list of relevant companies (with creditability) to be shortsighted and not only out of league with the policies of Wikipedia but also outside of the spirit of collaborative communication and knowledge sharing. I await your response...and/or suggestions as I firmly disagree this content was being developed for business reasons. EdwardSpeaks71.160.151.84 (talk) 17:35, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't delete that page, which seems to have been an effort to advertise the "Claus Ettensberger Corp." I did delete the CEC page in May 2010 (more than two years ago) after it was tagged for deletion as per the notification at the time on User talk:Bpabrams (claims like "you can fulfill your automotive dreams at a CEC Tuning Center" etc. have no place in an encyclopedia).  – Athaenara  ✉  05:12, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Undeletion request for CentralTrak Artist Residency
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I am currently attempting to create an *unbiased* wiki page for the University of Texas at Dallas artist residency, CentralTrak. This page will list only factual and historical details about the residency for anyone interested in information regarding the founding and developmental stages of the residency as well as past residents. There will be zero promotional tone. Thank you.

05:49, 7 April 2009 Athaenara (talk | contribs) deleted page Centraltrak (G11: blatant advertising. Created by Centraltrak, tagged by CardinalDan and MuZemike.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glassiousclay (talk • contribs) —Preceding undated comment added 17:57, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Deleted Page - Prologis, Inc
→  in re: and   →  see also: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Prologis  →  previous discussions: User talk:Athaenara/Archive 9 and User talk:Athaenara/Archive 10 

Athaenara,

Out of total transparency, I head up Corporate Communications for Prologis, Inc, a publicly-traded real estate company based in San Francisco. I joined the company about 7 months ago and I'm a relative newbie to creating Wikipedia pages. Previously, before I joined the company, some folks had tried to create a Prologis page, but you quickly deleted them (understandably so) because the content was not objective. We are a large, publicly-traded company, and I think it's important for us to have a Wikipedia page with factual, objective information. Can you suggest the best way to go about doing this? I've read many areas of Wikipedia about starting a new page, but it says that in-house PR professionals are discouraged from doing so. I hesitate posting another page that will be deleted again. Or do you suggest creating a very high-level page about Prologis that only includes basic facts (number of employees, where we are headquartered, type of business, etc.) and then hope the Wikipedia community fills out additional content over time? Thank you. Atle 415Atle415 (talk) 23:28, 5 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Whether or not your company wants its importance bolstered by an entry here, Wikipedia itself is not a corporate listing service but an encyclopedia.  You should read the Notability and Conflict of interest guidelines if you haven't already done so, and you may seek additional input at the Conflict of interest/Noticeboard.  – Athaenara  ✉  14:04, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Whisky Competition
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Hi Athaenara, I've noticed that you deleted the page for the International Whisky Competition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/internationalwhiskycompetition on 26 June 2011 Athaenara (talk | contribs) deleted page International Whisky Competition (WP:PROD: Nominated for seven days with no objection: concern was 'No references to indicate notability.') The whisky competition is now in its 4th year, the page was never used for promotional purposes. Any way to bring it back on? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sylvainallard (talk • contribs) 13:06, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Help restoring an article from my user space
Hello, several years ago an article from my user space was deleted: "05:40, 18 June 2010 Athaenara (talk | contribs) deleted page User:Robert Kavanaugh/IsoSproutPlex (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion)." As I don't have any wiki-formatted version of that draft, and as I'm seeking help with review and publication of an article on IsoSproutPlex from some of the same individuals who were involved in the original AfD trial, based upon the recent third-party, peer-reviewed journal articles on the subject, I need a starting point to help them help me. Is it possible to undelete this article back into my user space so I can work on it in a wikimedia format? Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert Kavanaugh (talk • contribs) —Preceding undated comment added 14:52, 21 November 2013‎ (UTC)

Paros
You deleted an entry ( Jerome Paros) on which I was working in my sandbox. I was under the impression ( mistakenly apparently) that the sandbox was an area in which the author might create a rough sketch and do work prior to formal submission. I didn't think it would actually be subject to scrutiny and public review prior to formal submission. What I assembled in the sandbox were a series of random thoughts in the process of being properly organized and referenced. I was also in the process of excising any inappropriate material. I was shocked and surprised to find that my entry was being scrutinized and evaluated before I had an opportunity to fully edit it to my satisfaction. I would like the opportunity to complete the entry and would also appreciate your input as to which aspects you considered "promotional." I would certainly incorporate your suggestions into my final efforts. AppreciativelyParos1 (talk) 21:11, 10 May 2014 (UTC)Lawrence Paros ( Paros1)


 * Deletion

You deleted an entry ( Jerome Paros) on which I was working in my sandbox. I was under the impression ( mistakenly apparently) that the sandbox was an area in which the author might create a rough sketch and do work prior to formal submission. I didn't think it would actually be subject to scrutiny and public review prior to formal submission. What I assembled in the sandbox were a series of random thoughts in the process of being properly organized and referenced. I was also in the process of excising any inappropriate material. I was shocked and surprised to find that my entry was being scrutinized and evaluated before I had an opportunity to fully edit it to my satisfaction. I would like the opportunity to complete the entry and would also appreciate your input as to which aspects you considered "promotional." I would certainly incorporate your suggestions into my final efforts. User:Paros1/sandbox. Appreciatively, Paros1 (talk) 21:26, 10 May 2014 (UTC)Lawrence Paros


 * Deletion User Paros1/sandbox

Hi Athaenara. I notice that you deleted my entry at Paros1/sandbox. Any chance that page could be restored? I would like to modify the page so that it is neutral in tone and content and does not serve as a promotion. I am also confused on the nature of the sandbox, believing that it was an area in which one might experiment. My work there was nowhere close to being a finished product. How is that it was deleted though I had never finished the entry nor submitted it for review? Paros1 (talk) 21:44, 12 May 2014 (UTC)Lawrence Paros


 * I think the messages posted for you on your user talk page and the suggestions and links provided in the deletion log supplied the answers, if you will read them, to your questions. – Athaenara  ✉  03:33, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

COI related article nominated for deletion
Hi Athaenara,

There is a new essay on the subject of COI that I recently nominated for deletion. There is a lot of back and forth going on as you might imagine, and I thought it might be helpful to ask some editors with a historical interest in the area to give their input.

Just to be clear, you are not being canvassed based on my perceptions of what your views are. I am asking for input from the top 10 contributors to the COI Noticeboard, expecting that some expertise and interest might be found here.

Thanks in advance for your input, if you feel able and willing to participate. Formerly 98 talk 22:52, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Request for undeletion of "World Photography Awards"
Hi, I was about to create a redirect from World Photography Awards to World Photography Organisation when I realized that you deleted an article under that name in 2008. In 2008 (S)WPA was still new, meanwhile it has been established. Perhaps the old article had useful contents that could be expanded or merged into the World Photography Organisation article, therefore I'd like to have a look. Could you please restore the article? Thanks. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 14:25, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I took a look at it again (a long time since 2008!) and saw again the amateurish promotional piece that it was. I suggest you take it to Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion which is, as it says, "a process intended to assist users in restoring pages or files that were uncontroversially deleted via proposed deletion" etc.  It could, for example, be undeleted and moved to your userspace while you decide what content, if any, is appropriate and hence usable.  – Athaenara  ✉  15:12, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Markbass
Hi Athaenara! I see that you deleted the page of Markbass in 2009. Can I go ahead and create a page for the same? I can first submit a draft for review and maybe you or any other moderators can have a look to see if conforms with WP:CORP and any other guidelines. Let me know. Thanks! Sportonion555 (talk) 14:03, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Loeb & Loeb
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Hey, I object to your speedy deletion of Loeb & Loeb. Can you please restore it and, if you still want to delete it, take it to AFD? Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:56, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * It was created by the now-blocked single purpose account ; no subsequent edits improved it. An experienced editor,, legitimately and appropriately tagged it db-g11 for speedy deletion as the blatant advertising it was.  You are free to avail yourself of deletion review if you wish.  – Athaenara  ✉  08:09, 5 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks Athaenara. Mark Dask  11:00, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * User:markdask: Did you google it before you deleted it? It's not a little law firm.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:31, 5 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Seriously Zig I don't recall the article after six years, but if you would like to discuss it with me then click HERE, which will take you to my talk page and we can discuss it there. Mark  Dask  20:08, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Neeraj Gupta Artist
This is the third CSD recently, would you consider salting it? Tigger Jay&thinsp; (talk) 21:30, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Request to undelete my article about Transcrypt
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Hi Athaenara

Seems you've deleted my article about Transcrypt, an open source Python to Javascript compiler resulting from a project I started. Earlier objections against the article, that was offered for review, have been made with regard to notability by one editor.

I added some more references and also pointed to the fact that similar compilers are discussed on other Wikipedia pages. Of course that doesn't automatically mean the page is now good enough. I am quite open to reason, discussion and improvement, but destroying hours of work (not even a trace in the deletion list) without even reacting on my arguments gives a feeling of dealing with a totalitarian state rather than with a community that welcomes contributions. I invite you to share with me the reasons for deleting this page, so that I may improve it if needed.

Jacques de Hooge Netherlands Jacdeh (talk) 10:49, 22 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Your attempt to use Wikipedia to promote your product/project failed our relatively rigorous conflict of interest and spam guidelines. Please click on the links in the deletion log and read the content displayed.  Thank you.  – Athaenara  ✉  22:46, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

I've tried to find it in the deletion log right after it was deleted, but couldn't find an entry for it. Could you provide me with a link. Also I'd like to read the guidelines you refer to. Thanks in advance. JdeH. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacdeh (talk • contribs) 08:46, 29 January 2017 (UTC) Thanks for the tip, hadn't seen that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacdeh (talk • contribs) 17:56, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * If you click on "logs" in the article links above, you will see that "G11" and "advertising" are linked. – Athaenara  ✉  09:20, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Consider the page for draft
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Dear Athaenara.

Can you consider my page for restoring it to draft space for improvement. I can improve my page by adding more appealing information with authoritative information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramu1984 (talk • contribs) 07:55, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Your article fits the Wikipedia definition of unambiguous advertising or promotion perfectly. Please do read the information linked in the deletion log.  – Athaenara  ✉  11:51, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Sakshi Chopra
Thank you speedy deleting the page. The page was recreated by her agency after previously deleting it in 2015. Do you think it'd make sense to WP:SALT it? Coderzombie (talk) 08:17, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

DevSecOps
→  in re:  →  see also: 

Please explain your reason of Unambiguous or promotion deletion? Do you understand the subject matter as there is another Wiki page in which this term is derived form called DevOps. If DevSecOps is considered unambiguous or promotion, how does DevOps remain? Help me understand because this is very frustrating.

Bjm243wiki (talk) 20:48, 26 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Restored (perhaps temporarily) per your complaint. – Athaenara  ✉  20:57, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Pacific Union Financial
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Hi Athaenara,

I'd like to work with you to recreate the wiki page for Pacific Union Financial - I was basing the structure/style of the page based on other financial institution articles, while trying my best not to sound promotional, but if the content needs to be further refined just let me know. I'd love to work together to get the article up and running the right way. I'm also fairly new to this, so if I reached out to you in the wrong way I do apologize.

Thanks,

Timothuney (talk) 16:44, 20 March 2017 (UTC)Timothuney


 * I have zero interest in creating such a page. You are not going to work with me. We are not going to work together.  Your efforts to avoid sounding promotional while actually being promotional are ... nevermind.


 * Criteria for speedy deletion and What Wikipedia is not are both linked in the deletion log, you should already have read them. – Athaenara ✉  02:20, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Runa1123
→  in re: and   →  see also: User talk:RickinBaltimore/Archive 17 

Hi Athaenara,

I see that you have taken down my article from the sandbox as well marking it down for promotional content. Would really appreciate if you could help me to modify the content to make it wiki ready. Thanks!

Runa1123 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:24, 10 April 2017 (UTC)


 * You must know by now about our policies and guidelines against using Wikipedia as a vehicle for advertising and promotion, and yet you're not only still trying to do it, you're trying to get other editors to help you do it. Stop.  – Athaenara  ✉  01:22, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

How Can I Make a wikipedia Page for this singer?
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Hellow MS/MR How Can I make a page for a singer. I maked 3 times but it deleted... http://saradiba.com/biography/ she is a singer but I Can't make a page for her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saeedheidarizarei (talk • contribs) 15:22, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * It is a promotional piece with no indication that she is notable. Please read the Wikipedia policy and guideline pages linked in the message on your user talk page to increase your understanding of what you tried to do and why it doesn't belong in an encyclopedia.  – Athaenara  ✉  03:45, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

The Jabbar kallarackal socks
→  in re: and  

Re my question and your comment, shall I lodge an SPI, or what? Thanks for getting rid of the ad, too. &mdash;  O Fortuna   semper crescis, aut decrescis  16:27, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
 * They produced identical spam and should both be blocked; sockpuppet investigations aren't useless but it's obvious in this case. – Athaenara  ✉  16:48, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Student project
→  in re: Wiki Ed/University of Texas at San Antonio/Black Lives Matter - Critical Perspectives (Spring 2017)  →  see also: Articles for deletion/Diversity (Black Lives Matter Guiding Principle) and Seraphimblade's excellent advice at User talk:Burgesspfc 

``Hi Athaenara, I created pages for a Black Lives Matter class at UTSA. The 13 guiding principles have no descriptions, so our assignments were to create pages for each of the guidelines. I published them today, and from the looks of it, they all were deleted. Can you please help me get them back so I can improve them or maybe tell me why they were deleted? The very nature of this subject is very controversial so I am wary and concerned as to why these links and content connected to them were deleted. Please help, Burgesspfc (talk) 01:54, 24 April 2017 (UTC)


 * I cannot control whether or not class assignments are appropriate or scholarly. If I were in that position, I'd first assign reading and test students' comprehension of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, for example: Notability, What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion, and Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause.  If you read those and still then believe that your entry might belong in an encyclopedia, you may try Requests for undeletion if you wish.  – Athaenara  ✉  12:03, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Sock puppet
→  in re: Manalalkhaled, Eanderson007, Edanderson-capc 

You tagged Manalalkhaled as a possible sock puppet, but you don't appear to have opened a sock puppet investigation of the matter? What's the point of tagging the page if you're not going to open the investigation? WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:25, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * A sockpuppet notice is more a shot across the bow than a full frontal assault. That's often enough to stop them.  SPIs are for when it isn't.  – Athaenara  ✉  17:18, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Hamish Blakely Article Deletion Notice
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Dear Athaenara,

I totally understand the deletion of my article. As autobiographical material I was completely ill informed regarding your guidelines about how the nature of this content is justifiably treated with caution and ultimately, rejection.

This was a considerable lapse in judgement on my part. My interest in Wikipedia will continue and to further enhance my skills as a writer/contributor, I would like to consider submitting articles,that follow Wikipedia protocol more comprehensively, in the future.

In an effort to wipe the slate clean, may I ask for the removal of the alert on my current article/talk page stating: "This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference." "23:40, 7 May 2017 Athaenara (talk | contribs) deleted page Hamish Blakely (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: more at User talk:Hamish Blakely)"

As stated, I completely accept the reasons for this template but would be very grateful if this could be removed.

Many thanks, Kind regards, Goldentundra49 (talk) 10:15, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * That's just a log entry. It will remain on the log forever. However, it is only currently visible because the page does not exist. If a page is recreated under that same title (all with regard to the guidelines on autobiographies, promotion, and sourcing, of course!) it will not be visible. Except in the log. Where it will stay forever. In any case, please do not take it as a personal stain on your character. &mdash;  O Fortuna   semper crescis, aut decrescis  10:49, 8 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for stepping in, Fortuna, you're welcome any time. I understand your concerns, Goldentundra49, and please understand that very few will ever see anything about that little misadventure other than a few administrators who keep track of WP:COI and related issues.  It's a very small pebble that fell in a very large pond.  – Athaenara  ✉  22:46, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Yungspecz
→  in re: users Yungspecz, Yungspeczgh, Pagez Music 

After you blocked User:Yungspecz, the guy reregistered as User:Yungspeczgh and recreated Yungspecz twice more. I've blocked the new account. I suppose we could protect it in case he creates a third account, but if it's all right with you, I'd rather use it as a honeypot (computing) and leave it unprotected. Nyttend (talk) 23:32, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * That sounds reasonable to me. – Athaenara  ✉  23:36, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Need to have a reference of our deleted page
→  in re: 

Please provide for a reference of our page and the deleted sequence as we have had the followinng edit made by you:

23:28, 9 March 2017 Athaenara (talk | contribs) deleted page User:Iandwe/sandbox (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: cf. Wikipedia:User pages#What may I not have in my user pages?)

need at least the previous versions log as I cant find the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iandwe (talk • contribs) 07:29, 17 May 2017 (UTC)


 * It was unambiguous advertising and promotion. As such, it was subject to speedy deletion per WP:CSD G11 as specified in the deletion log (select 'logs' from the page links I added above).  See What may I not have in my user pages? as well. – Athaenara  ✉  10:12, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Help with the draft!
→  in re:  →  see also: Sockpuppet investigations/Amitabhaitc/Archive 

Hello Athaenara, I had recently drafted an article for Draft:ITC Infotech which was reviewed and suggestions were given. So I did the changes and submitted again for the review. But I could see the draft is no longer available. Could you please help me with this. I was trying to make the article better based on the suggestions. I am being a new user was trying to make the article better. I would appreciate your suggestions on this. Please do review and let me know if there are any further changes to be made. Thanks.Percysam11 (talk) 11:10, 18 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Do you have any other interest in editing Wikipedia? I ask because, like user Amitabhaitc (talk), you seem to want a page about ITC Infotech and nothing else.  Wikipedia is actually an encyclopedia, not just any other free content posting website (compare alternative outlets).  – Athaenara  ✉  06:28, 19 May 2017 (UTC).

Revenite
→  in re: ; see also: User talk:Egy mary 

You deleted the article several days ago, but a catalog entry for it still shows up in Category:Internet. Could you see to its deletion as well, please? (I don't know how to do it). Thanks, 67.160.196.6 (talk) 05:47, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Well, it was there a few minutes ago, now it's gone. Just mentioning your name did the trick. Thanks again. 67.160.196.6 (talk) 05:56, 20 May 2017 (UTC)


 * OK, then! – Athaenara  ✉  09:52, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Sedlak Management Consultants
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Was Sedlak Management Consultants "exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten to conform with Wikipedia:NOTFORPROMOTION"? If not, would you please restore it to User:Blackracecar/Sedlak Management Consultants, where it was moved from by a user other than its author shortly before it was deleted. If it was, no action is due. Best Regards, — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 05:47, 21 May 2017 (UTC)


 * The usual venue is Requests for undeletion; I won't unilaterally restore promotional pages. – Athaenara  ✉  06:32, 21 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Actually, Deletion review would be the proper venue (after discussion here of course). Requests for undeletion is for pages "uncontroversially deleted via proposed deletion, under certain speedy deletion criteria (such as maintenance deletions or rejected Articles for creation drafts), or in deletion debates with little or no participation other than the nominator" and specifically states "Please do not request that articles deleted under speedy deletion criteria A7, G5 or G11 be undeleted here." However, I don't wish to challenge the deletion; I just wanted to make sure you would have deleted the content that was recently moved from User:Blackracecar/Sedlak Management Consultants to Sedlak Management Consultants by a user other than its author if it hadn't been moved, because otherwise the content should be restored to User:Blackracecar/Sedlak Management Consultants. One of the conclusions of WP:UP/RFC2016 was If a draft is moved to the mainspace by a user other than its author, then found to be unsuitable for the mainspace for reasons which wouldn't apply in the userspace, it should be returned to the userspace. I realize the GCSD generally apply to all articles regardless of namespace, but it existed for ~7 years in the userspace, hence I just wanted to double check. —  Godsy (TALK CONT ) 07:34, 21 May 2017 (UTC)


 * You're right, requests for undeletion and deletion review are more bifurcated now than i remember them being a few years ago. It's interesting that the former specifies not to use it for G11s but doesn't say where to take them instead, and the latter doesn't mention G11 at all.


 * At any rate, as per your careful explanation of the predicament the user found himself in*, I undeleted the page and moved it back to its original location. – Athaenara  ✉  14:32, 21 May 2017 (UTC)    (*or didn't: the user hasn't edited Wikipedia since May 2010.) 14:48, 21 May 2017 (UTC)


 * I looked at it again today, it was still spam, it still didn't belong in user space, and the account hasn't edited in the past seven years. Gone.  – Athaenara  ✉  18:07, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Gabriel Garzón-Montano
Since you deleted the article, and it had an AFD tag at the top of it (in addition to the CSD tag you saw), please close the discussion at Articles for deletion/Gabriel Garzón-Montano (2nd nomination). Instructions are here. Thanks! ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 23:12, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

ChickTech page feedback?
→  in re:  → see also: User talk:Talia679 

Hello! This is my first time trying to contribute to an organization page; we're trying to add a neutral, descriptive page for our organization (like Girl Develop It and Women Who Code, our partners). It was deleted after we only had added one line about the year it was created and a list of the locations.

Would you be willing to give me direction on how to improve this? I would appreciate it; stepping up and choosing to be involved on Wikipedia is a bit daunting.

Thank you for your help!

Update: Ah, never mind. I think I figured it out. I found the COI information and hadn't realized that I needed to add COI info to my info on the talk page. I'm not quite sure how to move forward from here, since it seems like volunteers aren't allowed to add information either, but we will try to figure it out! Levenhja (talk) 20:32, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Dandi Jewellery Co.
→  in re:  →  see also: 

Hi, thanks for deleting this. Would you mind updating the log to show that it was a copyvio as well? The LinkedIn page did not show up in Earwig, but if you load it separately, it is a 100% copy-paste violation. Thanks. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:49, 11 June 2017 (UTC)


 * My usual practice is to include a link to the COI SPA's talk page in the deletion summary. In this case, your detailed notification, which covers both advertising and copyvio, is on the linked page User talk:Hesham Dandi. – Athaenara  ✉  18:27, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. I had not seen that practice before. I had read in the past that copyright should be noted in the log entry in case someone asks for restoration and to give patrollers an easy url to check if it is recreated. Linking to the notification could also work, I just was checking. Thanks for the answer. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:31, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. – Athaenara  ✉  18:35, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

UrbanClap
→  see also: Articles for deletion/UrbanClap (4th nomination)  →  in re: and  →   →    →    →    →    → see also: your basic sockfarm (Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Urbanclap):
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Thank you for deleting UrbanClap, which I had nominated for G11. I see that it has been deleted five times, including in response to an AFD, and other times speedily. I suggest that it be salted. (I would have inserted a salt request into the delete request if I had known the history, but I don't always check the history of a page that obviously needs speedy deleting before nominating the page for speedy deletion. Maybe there is a lesson, and maybe I should check the history whenever nominating a page for speedy deletion.)  Robert McClenon (talk) 20:55, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I protected it at 18:39 (UTC) today. – Athaenara  ✉  21:12, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I dug a littler deeper, found Urbanclap tracks and salted it as well. Thank you for the reminder.  – Athaenara  ✉   21:27, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

I don't know why Wikipedians keep deleting "UrbanClap page that I created, it is a notable company and passes WP:GNG and has reliable sources to establish notability as well. As far as language is concerned I have checked a lot of similar pages with similar language. The page was gone before I could add up more content and weed out the promo language as it was mentioned in the Speedy Deletion Flag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coxnix (talk • contribs) 13:35, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I Need Help

→  in re: Deletion review/Log/2017 June 16 
 * Deletion review for UrbanClap

An editor has asked for a deletion review of UrbanClap. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coxnix (talk • contribs) 16:12, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

IF you think I am sock please go ahead with a check user or whatever. I try to talk to you and then you don't respond and then you have courage enough to express that I am a sock? Like really? I thought Wikipedia is a place where you have discussions and free flow of thoughts before concluding anything. I am not sure if you would reply but THIS IS NOT COOL. Regards :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coxnix (talk • contribs) 07:20, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
 * WHATS YOUR PROBLEM WITH ME?

As you were the administrator who salted UrbanClap I'm contacting you. The article was recreated as Urban Clap. I'm not sure what's the proper course of action. --Muhandes (talk) 07:57, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Urban Clap
 * Thanks for the heads up. – Athaenara  ✉  08:51, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Syed Shahabuddin Salfi Firdausi
→  in re:  →  see also: Draft:Syed Shahabuddin Salfi Firdausi 

Hello Athaenara, I have added a comment on Syed Shahabuddin Salfi Firdausi talkpage that I am working towards making the article neutral. I was in middle of work and suddenly the got deleted. Kindly restore the page so that it should be formatted as per Wikipedia's guideline.--Ubaid1salfi (talk) 05:21, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Kevin Modany Page
→  in re:, 

Hello Athaenara, I had tried not to add promotional content on the page, if you can suggest me edits of Kevin Modany ? So that we can make it live? Thanks! (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:38, 15 June 2017 (UTC)


 * It's basically a résumé, the kind of small puff piece that people pay to have put into a vanity Who's Who publication. It is not an encyclopedia article, and the subject (you?) doesn't have the notability for it.  – Athaenara  ✉  08:46, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Florian Mehnert
→  in re: 

Hello Athaenara, you deleted my article about the artist Florian Mehnert. The art projects of Florian Mehnert I wrote about were non profit. He is one of the very few artists in Germany who is doing political works against mass surveillance and he is well known, not only in Germany also in Great Britain, Austria, Switzerland... His forest protocols (against mass surveillance), his project 11 DAYS (an art project against remote controlled armed drones as a consequence of remote monitoring ) and also his project Freedom 2.0 (dealing with the lost of freedom in relation to BIG DATA) were non profit and gained international response. I don´t see promotional aspects. I did not wrote about his exhibitions or other personal aspects concerning his career. For example he had exhibitions together with Trevor Paglen and Hasan Elahi. I did not mentioned this. I tried to write just about selected projects he did. I I think they are (Florian Mehnert is ) relevant for the contemporary arts. Please tell me more precise, where inside my text you see the promotional aspects. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artinterested (talk • contribs) 09:27, 16 June 2017 (UTC) and 15:02, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

You've got mail
→  in re: 

MJC6437 (talk) 15:43, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Price f(x)
→  in re: 

Hi Athaenara,

Recently we created a page about Price f(x) - company providing pricing solutions (Price management, Price optimization- also found on wikipedia). Unfortunately it's deleted today by you and although we did our best to NOT publish article with promotional content, apparently you understood it differently. It has never been our intention to take wikipedia as an advertising. We only want to have article about the company on wikipedia, same as other companies have: IBM, Google, PROS, Amazon..

Although we read many articles how to do it, we are still struggling with having this page back or adjusted accordingly- so that no conflicts are made.

Please, any chance you could help us with that? Thanks a lot Eva — Preceding unsigned comment added by EvkaD25 (talk • contribs) 13:32, 29 June 2017 (UTC)


 * My own advice, based on years of experience with new single-purpose accounts, (we call them SPAs), is this:  Stop.  Don't do it.  Go promote your wonderful fantabulous unique company on other websites where it's more appropriate, not here where we're trying to build an encyclopedia.


 * Other editors are more gentle and helpful, believing that such new editors may be converted into actual contributors to the encyclopedia. As it says at the top of our Conflict of interest page, "If you want advice about a conflict of interest, see Conflict of interest/Noticeboard."  I can recommend that.  I recommend more strongly that you read Conflict-of-interest editing on Wikipedia.  – Athaenara  ✉  13:50, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Deletion review for Fuyao Glass Industry Group
→  in re: Deletion review/Log/2017 July 5 

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Fuyao Glass Industry Group. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richboy999 (talk • contribs) 16:07, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Mushtaq Pahalgami
→  in re:,  →  see also: Articles for deletion/Mushtaq Pahalgami, Articles for deletion/MUSHTAQ PAHALGAMI, user, Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 228, User talk:SoWhy/Archive 25 

Dear Editor/Administrator Athaenara,

This is regarding the deletion request for the page Mushtaq Pahalgami, that I had put up as the single author of the page (Samar Khurshid), and was acted upon by you.

The deletion request was put up by mistake by me, in trying to merge content of this page with another related page. I have contacted the Wikipedia central administration and they have asked me to explain the case to you, so you could consider to undo the deletion.

I'd like to bring it to your kind consideration that the page 'Mushtaq Pahlagami' that I had created as a single author in 2014, was mistakenly deleted while I was trying to modify/merge some content from this page to the related organizational page, 'Himalayan Welfare Organization, Pahalgam'. I tried to restore the page, but it had been put up for a deletion discussion by you in the mean time. The discussion is on, and I'd highly appreciate it if you could kindly intervene to have the page restored.

In the 3 years since 2014, the deleted page (which had more than 110 supporting refernces and having met all notability and significance criteria; please see, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUSHTAQ_PAHALGAMI)  had almost become the said person's social identity in these three years, and its deletion is bound to have serious implications for both, the concerned person's image and his business's credibility.

Since the deletion has serious social and financial implications for the subject, Mushtaq Pahalgami and his organizational credibility, I desperately urge and request you to consider the gravity of the matter and make an exception in the case by undoing the deletion.

Looking forward to favorable consideration, Kind regards Wikipedia user name: Samar Khurshid Samar khurshid (talk) 06:09, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Vaughn Wyant Wikipedia page deletion
→  in re:, by user 

Hi Athaenara,

I see that you deleted this page as being promotional. Just wondering if you know this person and are from the local area as the person noted is a notable person especially within the community. I would like to know how exactly this article is "promotional" as it doesn't state anything about the businesses, it actually just speaks as the philanthropic efforts set forth by a well known local celebrity. In fact there are similar pages on Jim Pattison and W. Brett Wilson that are of the same writing style and level of "promotion". So then, these pages should be taken down then or it needs to be more clear where the "promotional" line is crossed as it seems unfair that some pages can stay up and some can't but it has the same degree of content. If you can let me know how exactly it is promotional I would like to learn what constitutes this as such. Our local community needs more local content on places such as Wikipedia. I would like to meet the stringent guidelines to make Wikipedia more useful to our part of the world. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.195.127.70 (talk) 14:52, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of wiki page Julien Kerduff
→  in re: 

Hello Athaenara,

Hope you are doing excellent.

Can you please explain me why the page Julien Kerduff has been deleted? Julien Kerduff has recently been recognized by the American government as an individual with extraordinary abilities in the arts (photography/videography) and extraordinary achievements in the motion picture industry. Also he exhibited his work in the 2nd biggest Photo Convention in Europe twice (Salon de la Photo 2015, Salon de la Photo 2016 in Paris). Also he directed different Musicvideos for Soulja Boy who is one of the biggest HipHop artists of all time with around 10 000 000 followers on Social Media and worked with the biggest names in the industry such as Busta rhymes, Schoolboy Q, Mobb Deep and many more. Furthermore he was a proffesional Football Player in the German Football league and member of the German National Team.

Thanks for reviewing and letting me open a wikipedia for Julien Kerduff.

Best Regards,

Marc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justraw5 (talk • contribs) 10:17, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Deleted Page; Adebayo Oke Lawal
→  in re: 

Hello Athaenara,

Today, i just saw a message that the page i created with name Adebayo Oke Lawal who is a famous Nigerian designer has been deleted from your side due to promotional content.

Can you please help me to understand where i went promotional and if the deleted page can be retrieved as i spent hours doing the research for the page.

I am really passionate about the Nigerian Fashion scene and would love to see our designers/creatives have pages on wikipedia.

I do not intend to be promotional neither do i know them personally.

please help. Fafszilla (talk) 20:47, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of FarhanSarwar
→  in re:  →  see also: and Articles for deletion/Farhan Sarwar 

Hi @Athaenara, Hope you are doing great. I have published the article on Wikipedia name is FarhanSarwar but unfortunately, the content looks like a promotional and written in an autobiographical style that's why the page is deleted. Before deletion of the page, i have made few changes to make the article according to wiki instructions. Did you see the changes before deleting it or can i recreate a similar page to the previously deleted page? After the amendments, the article looks like same as Bilqees Sarwar Foundation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilqees_Sarwar_Foundation). Can you please help me out to show the difference between these two articles so i change the content accordingly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FarhanSarwar (talk • contribs) 09:43, 26 July 2017 (UTC) [now ]

Delection of "Bitconnect coin"
→  in re:,  →  see also: Sockpuppet investigations/Midlandcraft, Articles for deletion/BitConnect 

Hello Athaenara I discovered this afternoon that a page I laboured hard to create "BitConnect Coin" was delected without pointing out what should be done to make it better or allowing me to contest the delection. Please I will need your help with this page to help me point out which part of the article sounded promotional and which part needed editing or rephrasing or is there any place on wikipedia where I can tender my article and get it edited by several editors before making it go live. please I look forward to your reply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midlandcraft (talk • contribs) 12:11, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know what part of "unambiguous advertising and promotion" you don't understand, did you read any of the policies and guidelines linked in the deletion log and in messages on your user talk page? It's obvious you're abusing your freedom to edit this encyclopedia to advertise a company (yours?).   – Athaenara  ✉  22:05, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Inna Rosputnia deletion
→  in re:  →  see also: Requests for undeletion/Archive 276, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Finance/Archive 2 

Hi! You have deleted page I approved https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inna_Rosputnia_(Lady_F) The reason you stated is promotion. Please, give explanation what text in your opinion is promotion and I will edit it. All the stated information is real facts and can be confirmed. So please, send me your comments to edit the page and recover it. I think successful female traders have to be featured on Wikipedia, specially if they are also pholanthropists and work hard to make positive changes in society. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanushyn (talk • contribs) 13:42, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Have you read Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause? – Athaenara  ✉  21:50, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

I have read very carefully Wikipedia Notability requirement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability and I am sure Inna Rosputnia meets all criteria. If my article is not written wright way, please, help me to edit it and guide me. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanushyn (talk • contribs) 23:23, 30 July 2017 (UTC)


 * If I were in your position I think I'd ask for help from editors who are interested in and/or involved in the same or related subject areas. For example, one might ask for advice from participants in WikiProject Finance (talk).  – Athaenara  ✉  03:54, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Will do. Thank you for advice! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanushyn (talk • contribs) 18:47, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Hey Athaenara, Can you please, recover deleted page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inna_Rosputnia_(Lady_F) and give me time to edit it in accordance with all wiki requirements? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanushyn (talk • contribs) 06:31, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Inna Rosputnia page recovery

Hosted Email Security
→  in re:  →  see also: 

Why was my article "Hosted Email Security" deleted? It is a very common technical term, and used by a lot of companies on the internet for their services, so there really should be an article about it on an encyclopedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Herb Dürnbach (talk • contribs) 09:01, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Cheiron Inc.
→  in re:  →  see also: users 

Hey Athaenara,

User SamHolt6 nominated my entry of Cheiron Inc. for speedy deletion because it seems to be promoting or advertising the company, and/or it isn't understood why the article is significant. I requested some feedback, but I haven't heard back - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SamHolt6#Speedy_Deletion_of_Cheiron_Inc. SamHolt6 Talk Page]. Would you be able to throw some light on why this was deleted, and what I can do to avoid speedy deletion of this post?

Thanks, Karan lala (talk) 20:46, 2 August 2017 (UTC)


 * You work for the company and what you wrote indicated little more than that it exists. You've written about nothing else in this encyclopedia.  To be blunt, you are what we call a COI SPA: a single-purpose account with a conflict of interest.  You tried to promote your company while at the same time failing the Notability guideline.  It's unencyclopedic.  It's advertising.  It's spam.  It's bad.  Don't.   – Athaenara  ✉  23:35, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Fadi Ghandour
→  in re:,  →  see also:,  →  see also:, , , , (formerly Wamdame), ,  

Hello,

I tried to add an updated English wiki of Fadi Ghandour based on what I read about him online, but it gave me a notification that a previous version was deleted by you. could you please verify and remove the notification from the new page?

Diana mas (talk) 10:23, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * What notification is that? – Athaenara  ✉  21:53, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Simonetta Lein's page
→  in re:  →  see also: users, , 

Dear Athaenara, I wrote you for a request of undeletion of my page for Simonetta Lein. I saw a comment of one of your collegue under it but not your reply. The page was canceled on July 29th and as stated everything was written in that page was backed by sources. Please, let me know what doesn't fit so that we can restore it instead of starting a new one from scratch. It was up for two years with no problems and the draft was approved. I hope to hear from you and to solve this issue. Sincerely — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.44.44.53 (talk) 03:40, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Shayan Italia
→  in re:,  →  see also: Articles for deletion/Shayan Italia (2nd nomination) 

I think you made a mistake here. Not only did G11 not apply because not all revisions meet the criterion, the article survived a previous AFD and was thus ineligible for speedy deletion per Criteria for speedy deletion. Please restore the article. Regards  So Why  07:06, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅. – Athaenara  ✉  08:50, 6 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Regards  So Why  09:44, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Verve International
→  in re: 

Hello Athaenara,

Verve International was created yesterday, nominated for deletion and speedily deleted.

I had earlier dropped the following on InsertCleverPhraseHere talk page the following instead here...

"Thanks for showing interests in the article Verve International I created hours ago, which has been speedily deleted without giving me the opportunity to defend it. Let me quickly give a background of me: I am a journalist with interests in financial technology and payment industry, especially as related to Nigeria. In the course of researching for my work, I realised there is a dearth of Wikipedia contents about Nigerian payment industry. This discovery lately has spurred me to try as much as possible to get Nigerian contents published on Wikipedia. Like you know, painstaking researches and studies go into Wikipedia writing. This I have done without any prompting from anyone to write the 'Verve International' which has just been deleted. The suggestion that the page was promotional and advertising appears to me unfounded. Is Verve notable? Yes, and eminently so! Further research, as provided in the references, will confirm this. I studied several Wikipedia pages of businesses in payment industry all around the world (e.g. Discover Financial (US), China UnionPay with sections which do not cite sources, JCB Co., Ltd. of Japan, RuPay of India, I will appreciate you showing me the specifics that made 'Verve International' violate Wikipedia guidelines in related to these mentioned pages. There is nowhere in that article I laid claims to things with no citations or references. Thank you as I look forward to your restoring the page, at least for improvement." RovingFingers (talk) 11:29, 6 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Kudpung กุดผึ้ง dropped the following message responding to me...
 * ., User:Insertcleverphrasehere was the patroller. The actual deletion was done on  further review by  administrator  whom you  should contact. I  have reviewed the deleted article and it  is just  possible that  it  might  meet our notability  criteria. Verve is a large organisation  and is probably unlkely  to  benfit  promotionally  from  being  in  Wikipedia.  However, as you  most  probably  wrote  the article on behalf  of Verve, you have a Conflict of Interest and  should have declared your associateion  with  the organisation. I'll  let  Athaenara respond on  your  talk  page. Any  decision to  undelete will  rest  with  them. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:02, 6 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I responded thus...
 * thanks for your comments. I have no association whatsoever with Verve; neither was I contacted by it or its representative(s). The only thing I guess I did that likely seemed promotional was sharing the link with a Whatsapp group (of Financial Technology reporters) I belong to. This I did with an intent to let the group know the page was up should there be need to give background to future stories about Verve. The fact is we are grossly challenged with web-based facts about businesses and issues in Nigeria; and several of us who have taken it upon ourselves to provide such contents when time and resources avail us the opportunity to do so need be encouraged., kindly revisit and review. I have no conflict of interest, nor intended to promote or advertise the page as thought. Thank you.RovingFingers (talk) 05:37, 6 September 2017 (UTC)RovingFingers (talk) 11:51, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for speedy-deleting the Itym spam
→  in re: 


 * You are welcome. – Athaenara  ✉  23:11, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of Sher Vancouver and Vinay Giridhar
→  in re:,  →  see also: User talk:Sher Vancouver 

Hi Athaenara

How are you? I hope you are well.

You deleted pages I created using my Sher Vancouver and Vinay Giridhar accounts. I am actually learning how to use Wikipedia. I wanted to write a page about Sher Vancouver for information and educational purposes. I gathered all the information from verifiable and reliable sources from the internet and created my page. Every sentence had a reference with mainstream media such as the Hindustan Times or Huffington Post. I spent a lot of time creating the page and adding the references. Can you explain what you found promotional so I can delete those sections on my next attempt. I felt everything I posted was factual based on the information from the sources I gathered.

Also I created two accounts with user names Sher Vancouver and Vinay Giridhar by mistake. I worked on both accounts from my home and office computer. I started to receive all these automatic messages that I am doing something wrong. My name is Vinay Giridhar and Sher Vancouver is the non profit society that I wish to write about. Can you delete the account or change the username for Sher Vancouver. I will try to create another article about Sher Vancover using my Vinay Giridhar account.

I would appreciate your help in me creating my first Wikipedia article and I am sorry if I violated any of the Wikipedia rules. Thank you.

Have an nice day.

Vinay :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinay Giridhar (talk • contribs) 15:56, 31 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Your other account is blocked for the reasons clearly stated on that user talk page. As for your desire to use this encyclopedia to promote your organization, please read Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause.  If you then still feel that your mission is appropriate here, post your concerns for feedback on the Conflict of interest/Noticeboard.  – Athaenara  ✉  17:31, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Emolytics' Page
→  in re:, , 

Hello. You deleted the article "Emolytic" from my sandbox. I would like to retry to edit it in a more neutral and sourced way.Maracanivet (talk) 13:20, 15 November 2017 (UTC)


 * You have been editing this encyclopedia solely to advertise and promote a company with advertisements masquerading as articles. We strongly discourage that. – Athaenara  ✉  07:20, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Steve Berke
→  in re:  →  see also: User talk:Athaenara/Archive 9 

Hello! I've written an article about Steve Berke in my sandbox. Now it turns out you protected the Wiki page back in 2011 because of advertising. I kindly ask you to unblock it so I can copy my article there. If you can't do that, can you please tell me who to contact? There should definitely be a page about him. --Blindselfie (talk) 13:09, 1 December 2017 (UTC)


 * You haven't edited anything else on Wikipedia as Blindselfie, have you previously registered other accounts? If so, what are they?  Hempydaze and Jaybrown89 also registered to edit only a Steve Berke page, are you familiar with them?


 * It would be a good idea to establish what your purpose is here. Your brief editing history suggests that yours is a single-purpose account with a conflict of interest (a COI SPA in Wikipedia parlance) registered solely to promote Steve Berke.  – Athaenara  ✉  14:30, 1 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the quick reply. I have never registered other accounts on Wikipedia. It's true I've come here with a single purpose. I have a "niche interest", as Single-purpose account calls it: I've participated in the cannabis legalization movement for years now. I'm not a member of any organization mentioned in the article. I have no idea who those people from 2011 were, although "Hempydaze" could be another activist, judging by the nickname. I met Berke once at a festival, and I have several acquaintances who know him. Nobody asked me to write the article, I've written it because I think he's important. I did intend to let him know about it once it was published. I don't think I'm in a conflict of interest, but I'll trust your judgement. -- Blindselfie (talk) 18:21, 1 December 2017 (UTC)


 * It was salted because of repeated re-creations. As your version is years later and substantially different, I removed that restriction today.  You may move it into draft space or article space as you choose.  – Athaenara  ✉  00:05, 2 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I moved it into article space. Thanks a lot and all the best. -- Blindselfie (talk) 02:25, 2 December 2017 (UTC)


 * You are welcome. – Athaenara  ✉  02:41, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Deleted article
→  in re: and   →  see also: User talk:Dlohcierekim#Deleted Page for Eric R. George and 

I received a message the my sandbox article was deleted. I have reviewed the reasons why and would like a copy of my content for my records and for potential futures uses. Would it be possible to get a copy? Any help would be much appreciated. Meltedmud\sandbox Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meltedmud (talk • contribs) 17:49, 3 December 2017 (UTC)


 * As your sandbox page was nearly identical to the now-deleted spam page previously created by now-blocked user, it may be safe to assume that the Meltedmud user account is yet another sockpuppet engaging in paid editing, without disclosure as required by Paid-contribution disclosure. I'm not undeleting that, and I recommend that you comply with the disclosure requirement as soon as possible.  – Athaenara  ✉  21:13, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

JS Media, Jon Stancer
→  in re:  →  see also: Requests for undeletion/Archive 289 

Hello Athaenara,

My page (Jon Stancer) was a 'work-in-progress'. I considered it a draft and I didn't realize that is was accessible by others or that I was breaching Wikipedia's terms and conditions as I was writing it. I believed that via my account login, I was creating and editing something to be published at a later date. I also didn't realize, that the article that I was working on could be removed and that I wouldn't be able to retrieve it. It was the only copy of the article that I had. I would very much appreciate it if I could get my article back. That is my primary hope. If I am able to get it back, I will re-submit it to Wikipedia when ready (ie work on it offline). Please and thank you.

Btw, JSMedia (my current username) is just one person (me, Jason Schneider) and not a company or group. I also didn't realize that it was a bad choice of username when I created my account and have since submitted a request to have it changed.

Again, my thanks for your consideration and kind attention to this matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JSMedia (talk • contribs) 17:18, 5 December 2017 (UTC) [now ]


 * It was a spam page. If you're just one person, why did you talk about "our page" and "our account login", etc., in your request for undeletion?  – Athaenara  ✉  18:12, 5 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I represent the musician, Jon Stancer. As he is the subject of the article, I have been consulting and conferring with him in order to ensure the information I am putting out there is accurate.  I mistakenly used the words 'we' and 'our' in referring to him, but I am the lone user of this account.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.164.96 (talk) 19:27, 5 December 2017 (UTC)


 * ...as I mentioned, I was creating the article on Wikipedia, not realizing it was readable by anyone. My intention (once finished) was to run it by an associate to make sure it was okay to post.  If the language I was using was indicative of what is typically flagged as 'spam', then I understand that now and would greatly appreciate the opportunity to revise so that it abides by the terms and conditions and can be posted.  Please note, I am a first-time Wikipedia user (I suppose that is fairly obvious now).  Certainly, there were no ill-intentions here.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.164.96 (talk) 20:15, 5 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Looks like it's time for you to post Paid on your user page as per Conflict of interest and Paid-contribution disclosure, which you should read. – Athaenara  ✉  01:14, 6 December 2017 (UTC)


 * This doesn't apply to me. I am not being paid.  The subject of the article is a friend.  I do work in the publicity field, but I am not receiving compensation from him.  I was merely trying to write and post an article about the subject.  It's really that simple.  No hidden agendas or malicious intentions.  Is there any way I could have my article back so that I can revise it accordingly and have a chance at reposting it??  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.164.96 (talk) 13:44, 6 December 2017 (UTC)


 * At this point, I'd just like a copy of my article back (it was the only copy, as I mentioned). This doesn't seem to me an unreasonable request.  I don't know if I'll try to post it here again, but if I do and there are issues with it, then you can feel free to remove it again or better still, bring the issues to my attention so I can effectively address them (although I would be extremely careful not to make the same mistakes again).  I didn't intend for this to become a conflict of any sort.  Thank you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.164.96 (talk) 14:18, 6 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I completely understand and you are entirely justified in removing the article if terms were violated, but I don't quite understand why it's being kept from me. As long as it's not on Wikipedia in its current form, then why am I not permitted to have my piece of writing back?  I've received (and appreciate) the explanations relative to my 'mis-steps', but I haven't received any explanations as to why my work is being withheld from me.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.164.96 (talk) 14:44, 6 December 2017 (UTC)


 * "While editing Wikipedia, an editor's primary role is to further the interests of the encyclopedia. When an external role or relationship could reasonably be said to undermine that primary role, the editor has a conflict of interest." That's a quote from Conflict of interest.  I'm not electing to undelete your page myself, but you can try following the instructions for posting on Requests for undeletion and perhaps convince some other admin to do what you request.  I recommend logging in for that.  – Athaenara  ✉  15:15, 6 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I know you posted a request there before, but there's no harm in trying again. – Athaenara  ✉  15:17, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. I may very well do that but this is no longer about posting on Wikipedia (or not). It's now (for me) about getting my work back. Whether or not the article ends up on Wikipedia remains to be seen. I would just like a copy of the article. The Wikipedia page can remain deleted for the time being. I am fine with that. Is it possible to have my work back without the page having to be undeleted? Perhaps a copy could be sent privately via email? Certainly, it is accessible to someone (you?) on the admin end... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.164.96 (talk) 15:50, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Sorry - can I get a response to this please? Is there some way I can get my work back? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasonschneider (talk • contribs) 13:13, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Athaenara?? Are you still there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasonschneider (talk • contribs) 14:10, 8 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Try the category linked near the top of this page in my bulletin board section, it's currently called Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles. I'm not in it. – Athaenara  ✉  14:34, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Okay. So do all 125 admins listed there have the ability to provide me with a copy of my deleted article? I'm sorry - I am completely new to this. Who am I suppose to ask? Any one of these 125?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.164.96 (talk) 18:55, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Bruce Givner
→  in re:,  →  see also: 

Hi Atheanara,

The page created titled Bruce Givner was deleted and I would like to know how I can rectify any errors I had while posting this page. I am looking forward to contributing to Wikipedia often by editing and creating pages and would like your expertise on the errors I committed with this page.

Thank you, Damianbec (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:41, 5 December 2017 (UTC)


 * It's hard to see what notability Givner might actually have. Enrolling in a school from which Lew Alcindor had recently graduated?  Taking a leak in a nearby balcony flowerpot during a Watergate burglary?  What you wrote strongly suggests you're the guy himself or someone close to or paid by him to get this résumé/puff piece published somewhere, anywhere.  It is not an encyclopedia article. – Athaenara  ✉  18:02, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Delection of "ASAP TyY"
→  in re:, 

Hello Athaenara,

My page ASAP TyY was deleted and I simply would like to be able to access it so that I can fix it without completely redoing it, as it took quite a while to create. It was deleted due to copyright infringement from ASAP TyY's website, www.asaptyy.com, even though I received permission from the site's owner. If the wikipedia page could be temporarily reinstated, or simply sent to me, it would a long way in my goal to fix the page in a speedy fashion.

It would be an incredible help if you could get back to me at your earliest convenience.

Thank you, Castelliaj (talk) 22:47, 10 December 2017 (UTC).

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