User talk:Athaenara/Archive 11

This is an archive of discussions in 2018. Please do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, do so on the current talk page.

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 * Conflict of interest discussions in 2018

Innodisk Corporation page deletion
→  in re:,  →  see also: Special:Contributions/Jojo Chang, User talk:Mikeleetpe, and 

Hi Athaenara,

Full disclosure, my colleague was the one who created the original Innodisk Corporation page that was deleted, and she asked me to look into it. As it was mostly copy-paste from our website (and blatant advertisement) the page was rightly deleted.

I wrote a draft for a new page in my sandbox User:阿豆仔/sandbox and I wondered if you could take a look and see if it is more in line with Wikipedia standards.

I know that this comes off as a WP:SPA, but the company should be notable enough for an article. I've also been a long time lurker around Wikipedia, so I'm already halfway familiar with how things work and I would like to start contributing more once I have the time.

Thank you for your time! 阿豆仔 (talk) 02:02, 4 January 2018 (UTC)


 * The October 2016 Innodisk version by registered user "Jojo Chang" and the July 2017 Innodisk Corporation version by "Mikeleetpe" were very different in style but both seemed designed to convey the impression that the company is very important and we all should think so. That's the kind of thing one expects in a business listing on some other web site that isn't an encyclopedia.  What we have here on Wikipedia are three users with some connection with the company, trying to promote it via advertisements masquerading as articles.


 * Many enterprises try to use Wikipedia for that, and many apparently succeed, so it's understandable when some who register accounts here, but aren't active editors in a variety of subject areas, may think that hijacking the encyclopedia anyone can edit for that purpose is legitimate. It isn't, and I don't want to help any company, partners, or employees who are trying to do it.  – Athaenara  ✉  08:24, 4 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the swift reply!


 * I'm not trying to make any excuses for my colleagues here, they went at it without really knowing anything about Wikipedia policies for purely promotional purposes. So I totally understand your reaction to this.


 * Yet, I truly believe the company has enough notability to warrant an article. A quick google search will give plenty of independent secondary sources to back this up and there are also several existing pages on Wikipedia that mentions the company. However, being a B2B company based in Taiwan, there really aren't that many people capable of writing an article for the English version of Wikipedia. So what I'm asking you is to look past my biased position here and evaluate if the draft I wrote is in any way acceptable.


 * PS: I fully understand if your decision still remains unchanged, but I would still love some feedback on what I wrote as I did my best to approach it from a neutral point of view, and I found it quite helpful in learning how to edit and navigate Wikipedia. I do sincerely wish to start contributing more to the encyclopedia.


 * Again, thank you for your time!
 * 阿豆仔 (talk) 03:24, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

request
→  in re:, User:NOPED ANEBI EMMANUEL 


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ANoped_Emmanuel&type=revision&diff=818941304&oldid=818937853
 * This page may need to be protected.--O1lI0 (talk) 14:10, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Tony Ahn PR/Reputation Management
→ in re: Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 126

— Preceding unsigned comment added by I'm Tony Ahn (talk • contribs) 12:55, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Welcome
Welcome to The Cabal. Your deletion of qualifies you to wear the badge of the rouge admin. It is a mark of pride :-) Guy (Help!) 10:14, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I demand a recount! – Athaenara  ✉  10:27, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Asking for help.
→  in re:, ,  →  see also: Users, , 

Hello sir. Am new here. I would like to make a article. I tried but it deleted. Please help me. I don't know how can. Please help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Binil Joy (talk • contribs) 05:25, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Zapproved
→  in re:  →  see also: user Cbright67's 2008 post at User talk:Brandon/Archive 7,, , User talk:Spasage, Teahouse/Questions/Archive 715 

Hello,

I'm the writer who put up the new Zapproved page. Please see my note on my talk page about the sockpuppet reference--I am not the user you referenced and have no affiliation with him.

I've also substantially modified the page from earlier versions, which I believe lacked citations to credible third-party sources and also copied text from the Zapproved website. This version did neither and provided an objective third-party view of this company, which does have merit as it is revolutionizing the ways the businesses govern their information and store it for use in lawsuits through the legal hold procedure: Zapproved was the first to allow businesses to do this in the cloud, which is incredibly significant for the legal industry. Moreover, the significance of this company has been recognized by Gartner, Inc., Deloitte, the Wall Street Journal, and the like.

Would you please reconsider your decision? I'm happy to revise the page if you find something about it particularly troubling.

Thank you.Kwalinsk (talk) 13:44, 16 January 2018 (UTC)


 * It is par for the course in your profession for practitioners to be appear charming, persuasive, and very reasonable. That's not going to help you much here.  Your client hired you and your "scribe on demand" firm to promote it here, and you're apparently not the first it hired to do that.  The problem here is your choice of venue: I cannot emphasize strongly enough that you should stop right now.  Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a free business listing website. If you persist, your account will be blocked from editing, your client disappointed, and your reputation sullied.  Recommended reading: the cautionary tale at *Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Tony Ahn PR/Reputation Management.  – Athaenara  ✉  02:00, 17 January 2018 (UTC)


 * (*Now in COIN Archive 126.) – Athaenara ✉  19:23, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Wes Nichols
→  in re: and   →  see also: User talk:John from Idegon/Archive 71 and Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 125#Draft:Wes Nichols 

Hi Athaenara, nice to meet you. I'm the author of the Wes Nichols draft which you deleted; I've (hopefully) addressed all the issues in that prior draft and put up a new draft up at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Wes_Nichols. I hope it meets with approval this time.

Thanks so much,

AbeAbeModiin (talk) 16:32, 22 January 2018 (UTC)AbeAbeModiin


 * It's still spam, and you should have a Paid declaration on your user page. – Athaenara  ✉  16:40, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of Franz Erhard Walther
→  in re: 

Hi because I'm watchlisting  Venice Biennale I noticed  that you removed a redlink to the article  that you G11'd on 2018-01-24. I'm not sure what the issues were with that article at the time of deletion, but I did want to let you know that in my informed opinion (I have been following his work since I found a 1972 monograph of his work in the early 1980's) Walther is highly notable; he meets almost all our notability criteria for artists, except for 4(b). Isn't there anything that can be salvaged? If so, may I ask you to reconsider the deletion? I would consider starting over by translating de:Franz Erhardt Walther otherwise. Al the best, Mduvekot (talk) 14:47, 24 January 2018 (UTC)


 * It's part of a case of undisclosed paid editing; see WP:COIN/Masterknighted creations, Sockpuppet investigations/Rudra.shukla, and User talk:Masterknighted. If Walther's notability is sufficient, editors who aren't being paid to puff up his reputation can probably write an encyclopedic article about him.  BTW, what's "4(b)"?  – Athaenara  ✉  15:14, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * It seems unlikely that someone paid for an article on FEW. The subject is German, they would have attempted to turn the German article into an ad first, and that hasn't happened. The German Wikipedia (to my great dismay) is far more tolerant of paid editing than we are. But if you think his gallery is involved, check some of the pages on their other artists: William Anastasi, Miriam Cahn, Francisco Tropa, Clemens von Wedemeyer. I have encountered on occasion, most memorably at Articles for deletion/Joan Melnick where,  and  also voted in support of keeping the article. I've always assumed they were some sort of radical inclusionist, but not a UPE.
 * Wrt 4(b), I meant 4(a), not 4(b); it is a mostly unused notability criterion in WP:ARTIST: The person's work (or works) either has become a significant monument. That specific one doesn't apply to FEW, but every other one does. I'll await the outcome of the investigation and then see about writing something neutral. Mduvekot (talk) 16:23, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Realkart
Forgot to block User talk:Realkart. ✅. -- Alexf(talk) 11:34, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks.  – Athaenara  ✉  11:35, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Heather Wilde (Speaker)
→  in re: and Articles for deletion/Heather Wilde (author)  →  see also: Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 127 

I've temp undeleted your G6 here so people can look at this history at COIN. As it's a redirect, it doesn't hurt, and it'll get deleted again if the AfD turns out that way. If you have any objections, feel free to reinstate your deletion without needing to contact me (i.e. it won't be wheel warring ). All the best, TonyBallioni (talk) 23:08, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem, I like your reasoning. We can keep it around until it's no longer useful.  – Athaenara  ✉  00:19, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Better late than never
→  in re: Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 126 

Athaenara,

I'm not sure why we haven't run into each other before. But since it's always "Better late than never" - keep up the good work! Smallbones( smalltalk ) 02:47, 30 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks, man. – Athaenara  ✉  13:58, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of Footprint Features
→  in re:,  →  see also: users, , , , 

Back in July, another employee at Footprint Features tried to start a page without disclosing a conflict of interest. The company has been featured in more sources since then, with another Netflix Original film coming out next month. Would it be possible for me to run another draft of a page with sources past you? Please let me know.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by KindnessOfStrangers (talk • contribs) 20:04, 31 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Why are you asking me? – Athaenara  ✉  01:04, 1 February 2018 (UTC)


 * It shows you as having deleted the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KindnessOfStrangers (talk • contribs) 01:16, 1 February 2018 (UTC)


 * I deleted the draft page (once), Jimfbleak deleted the article (twice). What makes you think that I would want to help you establish an article in this encyclopedia (it's not a euphemism) to promote your company?  – Athaenara  ✉  01:21, 1 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Anyway, never mind that. You can post your concerns on WP:COIN.  – Athaenara  ✉  01:22, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Chromocell Corporation
→  in re:  →  see also: Articles for deletion/Chromocell, User talk:Forevaclevah, 

You recently recommended deletion of a page that I created for "Chromocell Corporation"

I would like to ensure that I adhere to Wikipedia policies and did not intend for the article/submission to come off as an advertisement of sorts. I have re-worded the article and attempted to write from a neutral point of view. I have copied and pasted it below (not sure if you would have time to, or are able to review it here before I re-submit for review). I just did not want to keep submitting if it is nowhere near ready for publication. I would really appreciate any feedback you can provide. Thank you so very much.


 * [spam redacted]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kushalmshah (talk • contribs) 19:04, 1 February 2018 (UTC)


 * If you're trying to use this encyclopedia to promote your company, you'll get no help from me. – Athaenara  ✉  19:14, 1 February 2018 (UTC)


 * I certainly appreciate that you are preserving the integrity of Wikipedia. This is why I am genuinely reaching out and asking for help. I am by no means trying to use this as a platform to promote the company. I am hoping you can help me to understand the portions of my writing that are coming off as promotional so I can correct before re-submitting. Hope you can help. Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kushalmshah (talk • contribs) 16:57, 2 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Recommendation: post your concerns on the conflict of interest noticeboard. – Athaenara  ✉  20:18, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Muneesh Sappel
→  in re:, ,  →  see also: users Muneeshsappel (talk), SAPNA SHRIVASTAV (talk), Shruti95Narayanan (talk), Lakeeren.design (talk) 

Hi,

I would like to inform you that this article is false and utter rubbish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muneesh_Sappel and should be deleted immediately. In future, we should make it the point that only admin can create this article.

I am sending you because you are in this article’s View History and you took initiative earlier to delete this article and ignored it later. Muneesh Sappel took advantage of this and written more rubbish than his previous articles.

He is using wikipedia page for his publicity and propaganda. I am quiet shocked there is no article about him on Indian newspapers and on google, what you find one …. Is only one liner. Even images on google also posted by him….. not a single newspaper photos.

In his article most of the awards has won by other cast/ crew but he is showing in his article like he won!!!

Please do see his sixth article which he has written again in 2015: He says he is “Indian and International production designer, art director, costume designer, hair and make-up artist” but there is not a single hint about AWARDS. In his recent updated version he won so many awards, he has become now Indian production designer, art director and costume designer from previous claiming being INTERNATIONAL production designer…

Now he has become an actor, writer, director, poster design, publicity set construction, theatrographer, production assistant, art director… blah blah….

His article deleted many times since past (10 – 12) years and I see he writes article about himself again…. than some same user:Sapna Shrivastav: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SAPNA_SHRIVASTAV who use to write earlier on fake name user:Shruti Narayanan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shruti95Narayanan takes-over…..

“CONFLICT OF INTEREST”

He is a paid IMDB member, which you can understand… if you are not IMDB paid member. You can’t write anything. Rediff References are bullshit because Sapna Shrivastav works at Rediff. Just see how cleverly he created and designed false newspaper article for reference on his Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=551791188210278&set=a.345572122165520.79274.100001382062100&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=542341122488618&set=a.345572122165520.79274.100001382062100&type=1&theater

How someone could use his website as reference, he used it: http://www.indianproductiondesigner.com/PL/profile.php?ref_=nm_awd

For your reference (since 2010 his articles are getting deleted.): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Muneeshsappel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Muneeshsappel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.59.158.153 (talk) 20:20, 2 February 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure why you posted here. Other than having deleted one of his spam pages in 2015 (log), I've never heard of him.  – Athaenara  ✉  20:36, 2 February 2018 (UTC)


 * If it makes you feel any better, two other users and I got the same cut-and-paste tirade from another IP in that range.
 * Is there enough evidence for WP:SPI about those WP:SPAs that were IMDb-carpet-bombing that article? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:34, 2 February 2018 (UTC)


 * My technical knowledge of SPIs is nearly nil, I just remember seeing comments here and there that some accounts are "too old" to check, and most or all of those four accounts are old. I think the tags and the resulting category links are useful with or without SPIs and with or without creating the actual category.


 * We could block all those SPAs and just await events. He/they will either give up or come back and register yet another account to re-create content which some naive administrator gave him/them or which he/they saved somewhere else.


 * Or we could do nothing and await events (if any). – Athaenara  ✉  22:48, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Noraft
→  see also: Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 126 

I don't understand. Chris Troutman ( talk ) 21:27, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Magnitude Software
→  in re:, ,  →  see also: Articles for deletion/Magnitude Software,, , , User talk:Nihlus/Archive 2 

Athaenara,

Excuse me, but who are you to delete a page purely on speculation? Don't you have better things to do? I don't know who Chandalupa is. It's true that I work for Magnitude Software but I don't work in Marketing and I am not paid for editing the Wikipedia. Besides, who else is going to work on the company's page if not for the people who work there? Did you also delete IBM and Informatica's pages for "unambiguous advertising"?

I made some updates to the page because I like my company a lot and I'm passionate about what we do. I am sorry if the changes I made weren't "encyclopediac" enough; I am very new to editing on Wikipedia. Still, that is no reason to eschew communication and proceed directly to deletion.

Why didn't you talk to me before deleting this page? I am more than willing to put in the work to make it meet your editorial standards. But I am honestly furious that you had the gall to do this and I will do everything in my power to get it back. Explain yourself!

P.S. I can prove that I am not Chandalupa. Google "Sara Singh Magnitude Software" and you will see my LinkedIn. I started at the company in October. Chandalupa was making edits to Magnitude/Noetix as far back as 2011. In 2011, I was 14 years old. Please untag me from the sockpuppets list and restore the Magnitude Software page.

Ssingher (talk) 18:18, 8 February 2018 (UTC)


 * I disabled the sockpuppet tag on your user page. Unfortunately, there is no earlier version of the page about your company to be restored which is not unambiguous advertising or promotion. – Athaenara  ✉  21:40, 8 February 2018 (UTC)


 * By the way, user brought the page to Wikipedia administrators' attention by adding the Db-g11 tag to it.  You might drop her a line asking her to warn editors of such pages with a Db-spam-notice.  – Athaenara  ✉  21:48, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I did notify the creator and I'd hardly call the few promotional edits to it significant enough to go down the whole list of everyone though. CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  21:52, 8 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Understood. I noticed the three single-purpose accounts in the page history, so those are the ones I would have notified.  – Athaenara  ✉  21:56, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * You are lucky that Athaenara did not block you and the creator for being spam-only accounts. It is the approach I have started taking to obvious spammers of G11 articles. I do not want to speak for her, but if you decide to recreate it, try the WP:AFC process, and don't publish directly into mainspace. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:57, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Can someone please explain what exact language was so unambiguously promotional? The only part I can think of is the brief section on awards/recognition. I can take that out, but I honestly don't see how the rest of the article could possibly be construed as unambiguous advertising. It isn't any less neutral than the articles for other technology companies. I'm sorry we don't have more scandals to talk about. Why does the whole page have to disappear because I mentioned an industry award? On Informatica's history section, it says "In December 2015, Gartner recognized Informatica in its December 2015 Magic Quadrant for Data Masking Technology report." And look at IBM's brand and recognition section! Is this not a double standard? They didn't get taken down, so how was I supposed to know not to model the Magnitude page after the pages of similar companies? Ssingher (talk) 14:39, 9 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Just to say that Informatica no longer says that. WP:OTHERSTUFF is a common argument, but doesn't hold any weight here. SmartSE (talk) 15:26, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Hey, thanks! – Athaenara ✉  22:02, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Imosley/sandbox Text Retreival Request
→  in re:  →  see also: Requests for undeletion/Archive 295 

Hi Athaenara,

I didn't realize that I published the article in my sandbox, and didn't think anybody could see it but me. I was under the impression that I just saved it. I still have a bunch of editing to do and was going to transfer the text over to the legitimate page I was working on once completed and reviewed by my peers. May I have the text back? I spent a lot of time working on it and would hate to have to start over. I will make sure not to publish and just save my sandbox going forward. Thank you!

Best,

Imani — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imosley (talk • contribs) 14:34, 14 February 2018 (UTC)


 * It was unambiguous advertising and promotion and as such tagged by and deleted by me.  – Athaenara  ✉  22:10, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * As it's obvious you're intent upon advertising and promoting the "Bridge Investment Group LLC", I strongly recommend that you post a paid disclosure as required, pronto. – Athaenara  ✉  22:30, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Imosley We look forward to your new article! Also kindly see WP:REFUND so that you could receive your deleted article on mail. Adityavagarwal (talk) 06:00, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Imosley is a COI SPA trying to promote her company on Wikipedia; see more extended discussion on her talk page. – Athaenara ✉  06:03, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Icelandic Provisions
→  in re:,  →  see also: user, User talk:Jimfbleak#Page Deleted and User talk:Johnsaavn 

Hi - johnsaavn here! Want to make you happy and will absolutely play by the Wikipedia rules! You have removed a page Icelandic Provisions based on a7 and g11 objections (notability/advertisement). Let me make some alterations - happy to improve the page - but also, let me share some info first. Re: notability. This is a product with ~100,000,000 USD or so in annual sales in major stores across the USA. I'll see if I can get some stats on that (which should solve the notability issue). Also, it's been written about in sources (many of which I cited) like New York Times, Bon Apetit, WSJ, Marie Claire, Food Network and such. Many were already cited but happy to add more... On the advertisement part, I will re-do the page to make sure all citations do not have a PR-flavor; we did a lot of that already, but we can strip out adjectives and such to make it strictly fact-based to meet the requirements better. Give me a couple of days, and we will do better. Thank you for upholding Wikipedia standards; sorry if we erred on our initial foray here, but we will make changes requested to address your concerns and hopefully, get the page live. I will make you happy here - I promise! Thanks! Johnsaavn (talk) 18:48, 27 February 2018 (UTC)johnsaavn
 * Page Deleted


 * The version I deleted in June 2017 had been written by . I had not seen your version until after you brought it to my attention here.


 * I have to thank you for giving me a laugh today, I feel like the mother in that ad where the kid comes to the door telling his parents about his extremely minor accident and how brilliant they were for getting that insurance coverage. What's her line, no car for two four weeks?  – Athaenara  ✉  01:18, 28 February 2018 (UTC)  02:16, 28 February 2018 (UTC) 

Speedy deletion of Ericom Connect
→  in re:,  →  see also: Articles for deletion/Ericom Software, users Ericom~enwiki (talk), Pitvipper (talk), JonLerner (talk), 172.58.232.198 (talk) 

I'm the author of the Ericom Connect page that you deleted. I see from what you posted on your talk page you don't like paid editors. We all can have our biases, but I believe as long as an article otherwise meets the criteria for publication on Wikipedia, it shouldn't be deleted. The above referenced article had valid citations from sources other than the company's website. The page was deleted so quickly I didn't even get a chance to contest it. New Dork City tried to delete the page, and Chrissymad stopped him. I thought it was taken care of, so I was quite surprised to the page actually got deleted after that. If there is a problem with the citations or some other issue with the page, please let me know, and I'll correct it. I think it's very unfair for someone to just say, "well I think this is promotion" and delete an article. The article I did for Ericom was very similar to the article about Citrix's XenApp - XenApp. I'd also like to get a copy of the deleted article back. I wasn't aware of how quickly an article could be deleted, I now know to archive it myself as HTML. I can redo it and repost the article, but it's rather tedious doing so from Word. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rabcfi (talk • contribs) 21:26, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Bobby Kalotee
→  in re:, Deletion review/Log/2018 January 10  → ''see also:
 * (Mfd)
 * Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 128
 * Special:Contributions/Sagar vaibhav, Commons:Special:Contributions/Sagar vaibhav''
 * Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 128
 * Special:Contributions/Sagar vaibhav, Commons:Special:Contributions/Sagar vaibhav''

Hello Athaenara kindly review my sandbox where I've edited my page on Bobby. Let me know if his passes all the Wiki tests and requirements. If possible kindly point what exactly conflicts and what needs to be edited. Your help is highly appreciated and will enable me to launch my first wikipedia page and contribute in a correct way to the world's largest encylopedia. Sagar vaibhav (talk) 20:49, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of Draft: Volt Europa
→  in re: and   →  see also: single-purpose accounts TibriusvVS, Venz87, Bombast96, 31.27.145.57, Karolína Machová, Kherbivo 

Hi Athaenara, you deleted my draft of Volt Europa on the grounds that it was unambiguous advertising. To be honest, first, I don't think this is true. The article is framed neutrally and is stating facts without any positive judgement. There are multiple references to other sources. I cannot quote any critics because so far we have none and also won't make up criticism for the sake of ambiguity. Second, a number of people from our movement would like to work on the draft which you made impossible by deleting it. I don't know what is wrong with your principles but why would you just delete a draft and not provide a copy for us to edit? We are a small political movement with the best intentions and people sabotaging this without reason is the last thing we need. So I'd be really thankful for some comments on the deletion and a copy of the draft.--TiberiusvVS (talk) 10:24, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Deletion review for Vascon Engineers
→  in re:, ,  →  see also: user and Sockpuppet investigations/Muhammed Zafwan (category), Deletion review/Log/2018 May 25, Deletion review/Log/2018 June 11 

183.87.184.139 has asked for a deletion review of Vascon Engineers. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —Cryptic 19:33, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of Omar El Abd
→  in re:, , ,  →  see also: user Fafisabry2 (talk) and user Fafisabry (talk) on Commons 

Hi Athaenara, Hope all is well, I am managing Omar El Abd (omrr), recently you deleted both pages, i would like to clarify that omrr is the stage name of Omar El Abd, i setup the pages where omrr redirects to Omar El Abd, please let me know if it's possible to fix any issues and get it back online. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wisemenandthepainters (talk • contribs) 06:30, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your message,

I would like to clarify that the article created was not influenced by any means, Here on Wikipedia, editors helped and re-wrote my draft before approving, they made the necessary changes to make sure it complies. Hope you can re-consider. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wisemenandthepainters (talk • contribs) 07:49, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Shapr (app)
→  in re:,  →  see also: User talk:Mandy11211, Requests for undeletion/Archive 305, WP:SPA Weretechgor (talk) 

Draft:Shapr (app) Please restore the page as I intend to work on it or email me the content.Davislee20 (talk) 01:09, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of InfoTrack
→  in re: and  (59.100.129.161)  →  see also: (AfD), , User:Thehub2017/sandbox, User talk:TonyBallioni/Archive 20, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Companies/Archive 3 

Hi , You have removed a page InfoTrack based on a few objections. There is significant new information that has come to light since the creation of the article so please let me improve the page. This is a growing company across Australia and one which has been in the media a lot recently.The Company is well known in the legal industry and has been written about in a number of sources that I have cited. I can redo these to make it more fact-based and non-promotional to meet the guidelines. Please make the page live so that appropriate changes can be made. Thank you. Thehub2017 (talk) 04:10, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Will Phillips
→  see also: (AfD) 

Don't forget to clean up your leftovers when you delete a page. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:20, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Shahab Pishanidar
→  in re: User, ,  →  see also: Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 135, Sockpuppet investigations/Shahab.pishanidar, Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Shahab.pishanidar, Help desk/Archives/2018 August 29, User talk:GeneralizationsAreBad, User talk:GeneralizationsAreBad/Archive 15 
 * Hello

I’m Shahab Pishanidar’s manager, he is an famous athlete from Iran. He has an Wikipedia account, Shahab pishanidar. There are always Profitable persons who wanted to get account by his name so that his main account has been blocked. He has Wikipedia in Persian but i want to restore his main account in english.if you need more information about him, i will get you any license you want to certify that it was his, himself , and it mistakenly blocked. How can i restore his main Wikipedia account? Soulmaz AP (talk) 19:50, 31 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Help to submit

Dear Athaenara, why i can’t submit article for Shahab.pishanidar ? His Account is block or his name? So many fake accounts tried to submit articles for him. He is an famous athlete in Iran, in car racing he got so many champions. How can i submit articles for him in Wikipedia English? Would you please help me do it ? Soulmaz AP (talk) 17:11, 7 September 2018 (UTC)


 * You seem not to have read any of the replies to you and messages posted on your talk page about the inadvisability of the kind of promotional editing in which you have been engaging. If you wish to pursue this further, I recommend that you post your concerns (and be as clear as possible about who has been using which accounts) on the Conflict of interest/Noticeboard.  – Athaenara  ✉  04:09, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Dear Athaenara Soulmaz AP (talk) 12:16, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Shahab Pishanidar

Hello dear Athaenara I understood my client mistake, he didn’t know about the rules that you mentioned , but now he does and he’s willing to obey them. Now we would like to know if it is possible for you to unblock his account so he can start using his account responsibly. Sincerely Soulmaz Soulmaz AP (talk) 13:29, 27 September 2018 (UTC)


 * As I said before, I recommend that you post your concerns on the Wikipedia Conflict of interest Noticeboard, which is linked above in my previous post. – Athaenara ✉  00:04, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Soulmaz AP (talk) 15:58, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Rajatsubhra Majumdar
→  in re: (AfD2),,   →  see also: Requests for undeletion/Archive 310, User talk:CambridgeBayWeather, User talk:RHaworth/2018 Oct 24, User talk:Cabayi/Archive 5 

Hi Athaenara, You have removed a page Rajatsubhra Majumdar based on a few objections. There is significant references added in the article so please let me improve the page. All the informations added in the article are true and authentic. I have deleted the copyrighted images as per the guidelines. Please make the page live so that appropriate changes can be made. Thank you.--Aparajita Majumdar (talk) 11:33, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Joseph Kropschot page
→  in re: (1st AfD) (2nd AfD)  →  see also: Deletion review/Log/2018 September 25 and User talk:PRehse/Archive 9 

Hello,

The reason given for the previous deletion of the page for Joseph Kropschot was that he was considered non notable because he was an amateur mma fighter. That reason is nonlonger valid, as he is now a professional fighter. Is there a new reason why his page should be deleted? NorCal4Life (talk) 01:17, 22 September 2018 (UTC)


 * "Going pro in 2018", had his first professional fight and won it. I don't know why you're promoting him.  My best advice is to wait until he acquires (if he does) sufficiently more notability to survive another AfD.  – Athaenara  ✉  04:33, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Joseph Kropschot has six fights total as indicated on the wikipedia page, including his most recent fight after he turned professional. His overall fight record is 6-0, 5-0 as an amateur and 1-0 as a professional. I listed plenty of links that demonstrate this on his page. Before turning pro he was the number one ranked amateur in California. He also competes in professional grappling competitions, and is 2-0 in the professional grappling Fight to Win series. He has competed in and won numerous other grappling competitions. I am an MMA expert and pay particular attention to MMA in Northern California. Joseph Kropschot is, without a doubt, a notable MMA fighter, and any MMA expert or even casual fan would agree. I'm not trying to 'promote' anybody, but I would like people that want information on this fighter to have a non-biased source for this information. Considering the reason for the original deletion is no longer valid (Amateur fighters are not considered notable), and the original deletion was quoted as a reason for this deletion, I would like a new (valid) reason for the deletion of this page please. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NorCal4Life (talk • contribs) 22:56, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

If you would like to see Joseph Kropschot on television, he will be competing in the EBI Combat Jiu Jitsu competition this Saturday, September 29, 2018, available on pay per view and also televised on UFC Fight Pass. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NorCal4Life (talk • contribs) 23:01, 24 September 2018 (UTC)


 * I recommend posting your concerns on Deletion review. – Athaenara  ✉  23:12, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Joseph Kropschot. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. NorCal4Life (talk) 20:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Deletion review for Joseph Kropschot


 * Joseph Kropschot

Hi. I'm curious why you provided a copy-paste of the deleted article at Wikipedia talk:Deletion review/Log/2018 September 25. The usual procedure is to undelete it in-place and overwrite the contents with template:tempundelete. Pinging User:Doncram who may be curious as well. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:24, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am curious too, and I think the full version would be more helpful, who knows what it would show. Not providing the edit history = raising questions why not be more accommodating, so why do that.  But I do appreciate Athaenara's prompt provision of at least the copy-paste version. --Doncram (talk) 00:48, 26 September 2018 (UTC)


 * I took it all on board, undeleted the page, left a message for the user who had tagged it for WP:CSD deletion, and posted on the deletion review page. – Athaenara  ✉  02:30, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of Draft:TenX
→  in re: and  

Hi, I'd like to ask about the deletion and why it was seen as advertisement. Furthermore I wanted to ask about the source code and if there is a way to get it back, since all the history was deleted.

Themkde (talk) 10:11, 6 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Did you read the Blockchain notification that User:MER-C posted on your user talk page? – Athaenara  ✉  14:30, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Further to that, if you repost that page I will topic ban you. MER-C 14:44, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Block Evasion
→  in re: users Mollywood.lover and Muhammed.suhail  →  see also: Harishbabu.hary, Sagar.kottappuram777 

Dear admin, Mollywood.lover is an incarnation of Muhammed.suhail. Starting from the common dot in the username to the editing pattern and common articles of interest, it is likely. Like Muhammed.suhail, Mollywood.lover is also a single purpose account created to promote actor Mammootty by adding inflated box office numbers in related articles. Edits were challenged and undone by various experienced editors. Mollywood.lover was created two months after the last block. I think that account is also promotional due to narrow self-interest in promoting an actor, and is always battling with other editors for content disputes. Mollywood.lover is just continuing what Muhammed.suhail was doing. You only need to look through their contributions to know that for yourself. 137.97.175.123 (talk) 09:12, 14 October 2018 (UTC)


 * ✅ Thanks for bringing it to my attention.  – Athaenara  ✉  09:31, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Shiyas Kareem
→  in re:, (AfD)  →  see also: User talk:KGirlTrucker81, User talk:Greatest of all times,, Sockpuppet investigations/Hbinu 

Could you please undelete the Draft:Shiyas Kareem ? There are two versions, one by the blocked user and the other by me. My version is neutrally written, reliably sourced and no original research. The user inexplicably overwrite my version. I would like to resubmit it and see if it could make it to the mainspace. If you please, could you review that yourself ? 2405:204:D40A:4336:C006:A8AF:A845:98D (talk) 06:05, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Draft

User:BinzKochi has broken his vow. --91.187.79.88 (talk) 12:16, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * User:BinzKochi
 * Please be more specific. – Athaenara  ✉  02:14, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Range Block
→  in re: 32.218.0.0/16 (block log) 

I noticed that you put a 3rr template on an IP's talk page an hour or two ago, which has since been removed by the IP. Would you (or previous blockers and ) consider a range block for 32.218.0.0/16? This rather widely dynamic Connecticut IP edits almost exclusively Wisconsin related articles and is rather disagreeable to deal with as you can see from their talk page history. If you would like more diffs since Bishonen's block expired, feel free to ask me and I'll send some your way. Thanks! -- Dolotta (talk) 02:08, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I've no objections at all. – Athaenara ✉  03:16, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I haven’t looked at this from a CU perspective, but given the lack on unblock requests from the previous range blocks, I think a longer term range block would be fine. Also, hi, Athaenara. Always good to run into you. You do so much unsung good work here :) TonyBallioni (talk) 03:26, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Heya, Tony, thanks, good to see you too! – Athaenara ✉  03:26, 25 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Please do check out my edits. To help you with that, I've listed them below (for various dynamic IPs I've used in the past week or more). And if you see problems (which you won't), a referral to WP:ANI would be more appropriate than responding to ambiguous, unsourced allegations that say nothing more than "I don't like 32.x".
 * [list of ~30 diffs redacted]
 * 32.218.47.208 (talk) 03:33, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * No need to spam my page with diffs.... – Athaenara  ✉  03:36, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * And thanks for admitting that you've been abusing the entire 32.x range. – Athaenara ✉  05:30, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * One example that comes to mind is an edit to University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point from early last week that can be found here. Athaenara and TonyBallioni, thank you for taking time to look into this for me! -- Dolotta (talk) 04:14, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Dealt with. 6 month range block. The battleground mentality that can even be seen on this page and it’s history shows the user hasn’t change from their past blocks. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:56, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your action again, Tony, and your vigilance, Dolatta. I didn't run into 32.218 on this block-free run, but it's really not that hard to get an account to have one talk page to talk to them on, and this WP:GAME they're playing where TP notices with them are useless (and they call merely tagging their pages with 'shared' templates as 'harassment') has exhausted WI editors like me long enough.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 03:07, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Again!
I noticed that you have been plowing through the G13s as fast as I can send them! If you want, I've been Twinkling through Database reports/Stale drafts if you want to go straight to the list I've been using. Hope you are having a good last week of the year! -- Dolotta (talk) 02:54, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks for that, I've been wondering where people find them to tag. – Athaenara  ✉  02:55, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

BabylonJS
→  in re:, 

Thank you for listening and understanding JohnK3142 (talk) 08:45, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * You are welcome! – Athaenara  ✉  08:51, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Future Investment Initiative
→  in re: 

Hello Athaenara. I saw you edited Future Investment Initiative last month. I submitted it as a draft article via Articles for Creation, as a disclosed employee of the Public Investment Fund of Saudi Arabia. The article was given a COI tag but it was then added to significantly and copyedited. I don’t think that tag is needed anymore. Would you have time to have a look at the article and give your view? Riyadhcafe87 (talk) 07:27, 22 November 2018 (UTC)


 * While it's not as neutral and totally non-promotional as it could be, it's certainly not irredeemable WP:CSD spam. I edited it only once, noting the "Davos in the Desert" nickname and citing a Bloomberg News article about some corporate participants withdrawing after the Khashoggi murder.  – Athaenara  ✉  08:59, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of User:Tomasmath1991/sandbox
→  in re: 

Hi Athaenara.

Thanks for reviewing my page User:Tomasmath1991/sandbox, but unfortunately, it has been deleted,since your team thinks it is a violation when it come to promoting an organisation instead of the wikipedia guidance.

Could you please re-create my content for the page, so I do not need to write everything from the beginning again? I will modify the content and then submit again. But when I enter my Sandbox, my content is gone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomasmath1991 (talk • contribs) 08:28, 24 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I took another look, saw again that Legacypac had tagged it for WP:CSD deletion as spam, read the content again. Do you really believe that lines like "If you have a dream of becoming an entrepreneur in the future, DSG is the right place to start" belong in this encyclopedia?  The tag was 100% appropriate, as was the deletion.  – Athaenara  ✉  08:40, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi again.

I am a new user in Wikipedia, and this is my first time writing an article in here. I am just trying to make things work. The purpose is not to promote the organisation. Of course I will delete the line, if it is a violation to your policies. I totally understand. I am just asking to get my text/content back, so I can modify it? When I enter my Sanbox page, The content is gone.

Do I really need to write a whole new page? Could you please give the text back or where can I access it?

Tomas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomasmath1991 (talk • contribs) 09:21, 24 November 2018 (UTC)


 * It was not just one line that was a problem, that line was merely an example of the promotional tone of the whole page. Did you read the conflict of interest warning I posted on your user talk page?  – Athaenara  ✉  10:30, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/Sakhya1979
This user is continuing to add spam to their talkpage dispite your block on their account. Could you disable their talkpage access. Thanks. 2601:1C0:4401:24A0:9422:3AD5:6E78:CB88 (talk) 04:33, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅. Thanks for letting me know.  – Athaenara  ✉  06:11, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

SEFLIN pages
→  in re:, ,  →  see also: NEFLIN, Miami-Dade Public Library System, Tampa Bay Library Consortium, and users Neflin, Dukeofw, Petercannon usf, Cshermanusf, Nevinburk, Kmccook, Mosca23, Ejrod117 

Hello

You deleted a page for SEFLIN on the grounds that sounded promotional and at the same time objected its notoriety. The article was only listing the achievements and avant garde services put in place to help libraries with the advent of the Internet. As for notoriety, SEFLIN is a non-profit with precisely a long list of services that for more than 30 years have been supporting South East Florida libraries. It is hard not to sound promotional if we are forced, at the same time, to prove notoriety. Before your deletion, there were included more than 10 references and articles discussing SEFLIN's accomplishments published in newsletters and reviewed journals. I think, in all honesty, that the deletion was extreme and unfair. Isn't the purpose of Wikipedia to convey information to users? What's wrong on mentioning the actions of a group with a far-reaching vision? For instance, SEFLIN provided emails to libraries before even Yahoo existed. Don't you think that is an important accomplishment? What about the international conferences to let libraries in Florida and the Caribbean share knowledge and experience? Or sending books to Armenia? We are talking a non for profit organization walking the extra mile to give libraries a platform to grow. I have seen humanitarian organization pages mentioning long lists of efforts in Wikipedia and nobody says they are promotional. Are libraries -and consequently education- less important? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mosca23 (talk • contribs) 10:01, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi. I'm glad to hear from you, and I hope your fellow editor Ejrod117 will be reading this too.


 * I left a message last night for the editor who sent me an email identifying him/herself as your teacher, at User talk:Kmccook#Page deletions (please click on that link to read it). I first quoted the email in its entirety, and that part is still there, but Kmccook removed my response and replaced it with a single unsigned line, so I will deliver it here again:


 * (Begin quote)
 * Page deletions
 * Today, you sent me the following email:
 * "Hello, my library history class has been working very hard on the SEFLIN page. Two students attempted this and I asked them to merge. Your curt speedy deletion comment is going to utterly destroy their spirit.


 * "Could you be a little more expansive in why you have deleted a page on which they have labored? The edit summary was not very helpful.


 * "I am going to cut back on trying to encourage young people to edit for Wikipedia as I can't explain to them that they will mostly fail and not be told why.


 * "Any help that you can give in expanding the rationale would be appreciated. ~ "


 * You, and your students, need to understand that this encyclopedia is not just about articles you write, and understand as well that user talk page messages about pending deletion and deletion summaries in deletion logs contain a lot of information which is linked in those messages and summaries and is intended to be read. I think it would be a mistake to "cut back" on encouraging students to learn to edit competently and enjoy it.  We all learn as much or  more from our mistakes as from our successes.  – Athaenara  ✉  04:10, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * (End quote)
 * Now, the issue you're running into here is a Conflict of interest. If your primary goal in editing here is to use this encyclopedia to raise the profile of an enterprise you care about, rather than becoming a dedicated volunteer editor with a Neutral point of view, that can be an uncomfortable collision.  I'm very sympathetic to your predicament, but this is probably enough for you to study and absorb at this stage (take heart, it's only two paragraphs!), so I'll sign off for now.  – Athaenara  ✉  14:37, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * (Kmccook later removed the entire section, so I reproduced it above.) – Athaenara  ✉  05:54, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Maria9005
→  in re: 

You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 11:28, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅. – Athaenara  ✉  22:14, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion: MONQ, LLC
→  in re:, , , , and other pages  →  see also: Wiki Ed/University of Michigan/Plants and Human Health (Fall 2018) (history), anon IP user 35.1.36.129 (talk), and User talk:Athaenara/Archive 12 

Hi, I need to continue working on this draft for my class. Please let me recover the material and revise. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexob1212 (talk • contribs) 14:22, 4 December 2018 (UTC)


 * I do not know what is being taught in your class, but you have been writing what Wikipedia calls spam. Several standards, policies, and guidelines,  which I encourage you to read and share with your class , are pertinent to this, including
 * Spam
 * Criteria for speedy deletion
 * What Wikipedia is not.


 * The page you have repeatedly recreated under various page names is an advertisement for a company. Are you associated with it?  Is the person who runs it teaching the class you're in?  I do not know why you chose it as a topic, but this encyclopedia is not the place for such material.  It is customarily tagged Db-g11 for speedy deletion as unambiguous advertising or promotion.  Experienced editors, including John from Idegon, tagged yours, which were subsequently deleted by Cullen328, RHaworth, Jni, and me.


 * I will not restore such material. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia.  – Athaenara  ✉  23:40, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I also will not restore this overtly promotional content. Everything you add to Wikipedia must comply with our policies and guidelines. This draft didn't. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  23:42, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd also request that the several administrators involved here please watch this user closely. If it weren't that this was under Wiki-ed's umbrella, I'd have been looking at this as likely WP:UPE. It has all the "tells". Anyone know, has this come up before? John from Idegon (talk) 23:57, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * It has: Jessewalker1106 (talk) uploaded Commons:File:Dr. MONQ in 2017.jpg in August 2017, and wrote the now-deleted spam the same day.  – Athaenara  ✉  02:52, 5 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Initially I took your question specifically, today I'm seeing it more generally: has the issue of spamming via WikiEd programs come up before? That, I do not know.  – Athaenara  ✉  21:34, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Upturn15
→  in re:, , 

Hey Athaenara!

While I in no way mind at all with this block, they did disclose their financial relationship on their userpage (a few hours after me asking of course) and I was working with them towards creating a draft. While I did have suspicions of socking (see Sockpuppet investigations/Back Roads (film)) I was working with them towards creating a draft and teaching them our guidelines. Doesn't blocking them make them not want to disclose financial relationships and work with us, therefore leading us to deal with undisclosed paid editing in the future for fear of a block? I understand they can always appeal the block and the community is, deservingly, hard on COI editors so if that is your reasoning I 100% get it but I just wanted a further explanation. Thanks, no hard feelings please! HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 04:44, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Paid or not, it was obvious that advertising and promotion is Upturn15's only purpose in editing here. That's what Uw-soablock means.  – Athaenara  ✉  04:58, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for the response. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 05:00, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! – Athaenara  ✉  05:10, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of Plaqad As an Advertising
→  in re:  →  see also:, User talk:Domdeparis/Archive 7, User talk:Athaenara/Archive 12 

Hi https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Plaqad&action=edit&redlink=1

You deleted this page as a result of ambiguous advertising

Can you return it so I can edit it as i do not intend for it to look like advertising as I have removed all advertising words and frames and would do same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ladispeaks (talk • contribs) 17:10, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Not ambiguous: unambiguous advertising or promotion. – Athaenara  ✉  18:40, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Franz Klainsek
→  in re: (Afd)  →  see also: Teahouse/Questions/Archive 876, User talk:RHaworth/2018 Dec 26, User talk:Bakazaka/Archive 1, User talk:Galobtter/Archive 3 


 * [copy of deletion log removed, can be seen in logs linked above]

Thank you for deleting this article.

Please kindly provide me with additional information so I can recreate the article following the guidelines.

To address your concerns about the advertising or promotion please see my text below:

I am a student and art critic historian and I am writing a research paper on this artist; I have seen his work in important art galleries. I saw his CNN interview and chose to add to the article. I was not aware of the guidelines and I understand now I went against the rules. I intend to fix these issues and address all the Wikipedia guidelines. Please let me know if I am free to edit this page and if there is any further guidelines I should follow before I go ahead recreating this page. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artlover06 (talk • contribs) 00:45, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

All the content will be original written content. If you can please let me know if I am able to use images from public web? Or is that against the rules as well? TV Snap shots that I took myself? Please advise on any further guidelines and they will be followed.

I also made some changes to more artists: Roy Nachum - if you would like to take a look at it. Thank you for your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artlover06 (talk • contribs) 00:56, 17 December 2018 (UTC)


 * The original article was created and expanded by user Kdv06 (talk) from November 2015 through June 2017. That version of the page, which never had copyvio issues, could perhaps be restored and further improved.


 * Your first edits to it began in May 2018, leading eventually to its deletion as promotional and a copyvio (copying text and images from someone's website is not proper encyclopedia article writing). A few hours later, user MarkZusab (talk) began an Artist-stub page but that was subsequently deleted per WP:CSD as lacking a credible claim of significance.


 * I don't adopt other editors or personally shepherd them through unfamiliar processes, but perhaps someone at WikiProject Visual arts (talk) can respond to your requests for specific assistance. – Athaenara  ✉  05:08, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for involving WikiProject Visual arts (talk) I wait for further assistance. Meanwhile, How would I restore the article by (talk) ? Can you help me do this? Or would I do this myself by going into the article's history? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artlover06 (talk • contribs) 05:37, 17 December 2018 (UTC)


 * I haven't involved them, I suggested that you ask them about it. – Athaenara  ✉  06:17, 17 December 2018 (UTC)


 * I asked Galobtter about this (see discussion at User talk:Galobtter) and he's kicked it up several notches. – Athaenara  ✉  09:09, 17 December 2018 (UTC)


 * is user Kdv06 also you? – Athaenara  ✉  09:27, 17 December 2018 (UTC)


 * No it is not.
 * Thank you for involving additional help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artlover06 (talk • contribs) 18:33, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

User talk:TheStreaner
You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 08:16, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅, thanks for the heads-up. – Athaenara  ✉  10:28, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you
→  in re:,  →  see also: WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2018 December 20 


 * The page that you wrote is not an encyclopedia entry but a combination résumé and press release for publicity. None of the references you cited qualify as independent reliable sources; on the contrary, you used things like the subject's Linkedin page and a twitter account purporting to be for his company.


 * Please read Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion. – Athaenara  ✉  07:44, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Zivame
→  in re:,  →  see also: User:HitroMilanese/Archive12, User talk:Drm310 

Dear Athaenara, Thanks for addressing about the promotional type of content. Actually I am inspired with their 2 theories like Women running business & Online-offline concept. Let me start from scratch from the wizards for creating page with neutral point of view. Also will be looking for help from you & several other members to make it happen.
 * Zivame Page Deletion - Thanks for addressing as promotional/Advertising

--Vishgohel (talk) 06:46, 21 December 2018 (UTC)


 * That page you wrote was unambiguous advertising and promotion and similar in many ways to the draft linked above which was written by another (now blocked) editor. – Athaenara  ✉  07:10, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Apologize for my content, already started reading Wikipedia Rules for page creation. I can see message of Socketpuppet, reading that as well. Question - Am I blocked for editing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vishgohel (talk • contribs) 07:39, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Sockpuppet investigations/Vishalinfidigit --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:32, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Drm310. – Athaenara  ✉  21:07, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

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