User talk:Athaenara/Deletions 2017-2021

This is an archive of deletion discussions from 2017-2021. Please do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, do so on the current talk page.

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 * 2017-2021

= 2017 =

Commonwealth Freedom of Movement Organisation deletion
→  in re: 

I noticed you speedily deleted the Commonwealth Freedom of Movement Organisation page. This page was recently nominated for CSD with the same G11 tag and I removed it because I believe that it was an applicable candidate for G11. It says in G11 that "any article that describes its subject from a neutral point of view does not qualify for this criterion". The article seemed to be written from a neutral point of view. I would have liked to have been notified of the parts where this wasn't so. It also says at WP:CSD that "administrators should take care not to speedy delete pages or media except in the most obvious cases". Is this really one of the most obvious cases? The article was well sourced and the subject was covered by independent third party sources. Is it appropriate to readd a same CSD tag instead of going to AfD? It certainly does not seem reasonable, especially since there was not kind of assumed consensus required for it to be deleted speedily (by the tag being added and removed previously). Air.light (talk) 02:52, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Closing AFD
→  in re: Articles for deletion/Sun & Sand Sports 

Hi Athaenara, You recently deleted an article, [], while an open AFD [] is being discussed. Since I am the nominator I can't close it, so if you have a chance would you close it? Thanks! CBS 527 Talk 16:14, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
 * took care of it about an hour after this message here. – Athaenara ✉  11:14, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I often patrol Afd and am happy to do non-admin closes. best, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:14, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Richard Greene and clarity
→  in re: 

Hi. So, not sure if you read my reaction to seeing the speedy deletion immediatly pop up on the article I was creating about author and speaker Richard Greene - but I'm pretty darn confused as to what's happened! I wasn't writing a promo piece about him; I thought he was a really interesting subject after I saw his Ted talk and poked around a bit and turns out he actually is fascinating and has a really cool and interesting life and history. The guys a radio and media personality and his book (the one Penguin put out) seems pretty amazing (and has a forward by Tony Robbins. I'm asking in all sincerity for some clarity because I love being a part of wiki and I want to understand and learn; and also, I just don't get why it was so challenged? Respectfully... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akrumoftruth (talk • contribs) 17:12, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

User: Athaenara Still hoping to get clarity from you as to why you deleted the article I'd started about Richard Greene. I reached out to other users for help and they're directing me back to you. While I've been waiting to hear from you to understand your reasoning for deleting the article, I have found more solid links about him connecting him to what I wrote in the piece, including an on-camera interview on CBS News about his job as Princess Diana's speech coach. Surely that alone would be of interest to wiki community - I love wiki and I'd love to learn more about this which is why I'd investigated him in the first place ;-). I have the link to CBS as well as the link to the article about the popular radio program he created and hosted for Air America that another wiki author posted in 2007.

So please, I am asking with great sincerity - tell me what I did wrong; and if possible, tell me how I can re-write this so you'd feel better about it because I'm guessing I approached it all wrong? I want what I create to be appreciated by the community, so this hurts!... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akrumoftruth (talk • contribs) 20:20, 20 February 2017 (UTC)


 * It's clear you admire the guy and want to promote him, but that's not what this encyclopedia is for. If he becomes notable enough that other users create a neutral and encyclopedic page about him, all well and good.  If you're impatient, you can try WP:DRV and ask that it be put in your userspace as a draft to work on it further (see Help:Userspace draft). – Athaenara  ✉  23:34, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Descriptive notation
→  see also: Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 February 23 

Hey there! I created this page for reasons that escape everyone, including me. Thank you for deleting it. But while you were deleting it, I was creating its talk page, simply asking for someone to delete it. Would you now delete the talk page for the nonexistent project page which had been a redirect to the main namespace? J♯m (talk &#124; contribs) 21:24, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ – Athaenara  ✉  21:40, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I just closed the RfD discussion noting that you speedy deleted. I presume you meant WP:G7 instead of WP:R3, right? The redirect was created in 2011, which wouldn't be recently created. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:12, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, I just give more weight to the lack of utility than any element of recentism. – Athaenara  ✉  02:28, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello
Hello, can User:CLWE/monobook.js be deleted as well? The template doesn't seem to work. -- C  L • WE  03:14, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you
→  ref Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Archive 70 

Thank you for the help with the April Fools cleanup. To think we almost had two edit wars over it! TonyBallioni (talk) 02:42, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * You are welcome, initiative needed to be taken! – Athaenara  ✉  02:50, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm too tired right now to send Wikilove, but I encourage you to have a beer. I'm drinking one as typing! TonyBallioni (talk) 02:52, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

File review
→  see also: commons:User talk:Ellin Beltz/Archive 6 

Hello, time ago you deleted file File:Youth-lawrence-cambridge.jpg that was moved to Commons. Can you please check if the original upload was a transfer from Flickr done by user ? I am dealing with an OTRS ticket about the file, and it would be useful to have this information. Thank you! --Ruthven (talk) 10:41, 6 April 2017 (UTC)


 * The initial upload edit summary said:
 * (diff) 21:18, 4 January 2010 . . Jack1956 ... (2,313 bytes) ( Permission for use: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/deed)
 * – Athaenara ✉  14:07, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Ruthven (talk) 20:59, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Related deletion requests
Hi! Thanks for speedy deleting my User:D'Ranged 1/parameter naming sandbox and User:D'Ranged 1/parameter naming sandbox2 as requested. Those two sandbox pages were transcluded on a host of Template testcase and sandbox pages; I also requested speedy deletion for them. They can be found at Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as test pages; they're the "Cite..." pages. Without my sandbox pages, the template testcase pages are displaying red links where the transclusions used to be. The sandbox pages consist solely of a link to the related testcase page. Thanks!&mdash; D'Ranged 1 &#124;  VTalk  :  13:09, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅. – Athaenara  ✉  15:33, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! I know admins often get more criticism than praise - I really appreciate your help with this. Have good days! &mdash; D'Ranged 1 &#124;  VTalk  :  20:47, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. – Athaenara  ✉  01:24, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Surat redirects
→  in re: many pages linked in List of tourist attractions in Surat which merely redirect to Surat 

I noticed you are deleting a bunch of Surat redirects as G7. Where did the author of those redirects request deletion? I was under the impression that the author was going to update the tourist attraction list instead. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:13, 3 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I've been deleting most of them as G6, adding "tagged G7, more at Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 November 1" to the summaries. There are similar discussions at Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 October 29 and Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 November 2.  – Athaenara  ✉  21:25, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, then how are they G6? This doesn't look like a maintenance task either. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:26, 3 November 2017 (UTC)


 * It looks like cleanup to me. Do you want them undeleted as per this discussion? – Athaenara  ✉  21:30, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, please. I think some of them can be retargeted to the tourist attraction list. The author mentioned he was going to update it to include more information. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:46, 3 November 2017 (UTC)


 * ✅. – Athaenara  ✉  21:57, 3 November 2017 (UTC)


 * (Tavix and Anarchyte deleted all of them 10-11 days later.) – Athaenara  ✉  21:20, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

= 2018 =

User:Dujdidijdbsbsnsoaoso/somthing.js
→  in re: 

Hello. Thank you for speedy deleting the userpages a short while ago. I wondered if you could have a look at this JS page? There is some text in the middle, which appears to be advertising pizzas. Cheers. Green Giant (talk) 11:54, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Very odd page, and sole contrib from that user. Thanks for the heads up.  – Athaenara  ✉  12:32, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Paris, New York and Me
→  in re:  →  see also: Requests for undeletion/Archive 305 

Please restore Draft:Paris, New York and Me. I have found a reference that states the album was certified gold in France. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 03:29, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Deleted as an abandoned draft, restored by Graeme Bartlett a few hours ago. – Athaenara  ✉  08:54, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Dr. Azra Quraishi
→  in re: 

You deleted a page about Dr. Azra Quraishi after other contributors had improved attributions on the page. I am rather devastated to have lost all the work - especially contributions of people I do not know. Is there any way this page still exists as a draft?

If you are concerned about her notability, please note that two wiki pages already refer to her and suggest she have her own page. We were working on incorporating those links:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_recipients_of_the_Ordre_des_Palmes_Acad%C3%A9miques

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borlaug_Award

The majority of the recipients of these awards have wiki pages. Dr. Quraishi is in the same category.

I really hope you can help me recover my work.

SabaBPC SabaBPC (talk) 02:09, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I restored the page and removed the speedy deletion tag, recommending WP:AFD if the tagger wishes to pursue it further. – Athaenara  ✉  04:03, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Florian Munteanu
→  in re:, (AfD)  →  see also: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers/Archive 14 

This page should not be speedily deleted because nothing on the page is incorrect when it comes to sources. Another reason is that Florian Munteanu (actor) is a known public figure, and a page about him would compliment that.

His page was first deleted on 21 October 2018 it had no sources, which I understood. I improved the page with many additions. Legendfootballers (talk) · 11:31, 23 November 2018 (UTC)


 * On the contrary, the version deleted in October had twelve sources, the version deleted today had seven. Please note the most detailed rationale presented in the October AfD: " ... he's appeared in one short film.  Even if his role in Creed II is significant, and we don't know since the film has not come out yet, he would fail WP:NACTOR which requires "significant roles in multiple notable films".  All coverage relates to his upcoming role in Creed II and I don't think that's enough to meet WP:GNG (more like WP:BLP1E).  At best, it appears this article was created WP:TOOSOON."  That is still the case.  – Athaenara  ✉  11:42, 23 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I see now that Creed II was released two days ago. I don't know if or how much that changes things.  You could ask on the talk page of WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers.  – Athaenara  ✉  11:53, 23 November 2018 (UTC)


 * He needs a wiki page. Thousands of people saw Creed II and have no clue who played the son of Ivan Drago. 12,000 people saw his wiki page yesterday (checked via pageviews analysis). It's very important..people need to know the person and who portrays the character Viktor Drago in the film.


 * Florian Munteanu is a new upcoming actor. According to his manager Eduard Irimia, Munteanu will star in three other Hollywood films in 2019: source, which is in Romanian.


 * Please restore the page back. Thank you. Legendfootballers (talk) · 14:18, 23 November 2018 (UTC)


 * The people at the actors and filmmakers wikiproject are experienced and dedicated editors with a focus on this specific area of encyclopedic content, which is why I suggested you ask them. – Athaenara  ✉  21:20, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

The Bandito Tour
→  in re:,  →  see also:, Articles for deletion/Bandito Tour, Articles for deletion/Bandito Tour (2nd nomination), Teahouse/Questions/Archive 865 

Hello! I recently created a page "The Bandito Tour" (the reason it is still there is because someone else decided to recreate it. However it is unencyclopedic and has already been tagged with speedy deletion). It was previously created under the name "Bandito Tour", but was deleted after a proposed deletion. The reason I recreated it was because I thought enough content had come to light to recreate the page with additional content. (background, concert synopsis, reviews). This was definitely a mistake on my part, so it was deleted. I have been recommended by the Teahouse to ask you to draftify the article so that I can continue working on it until it's maybe good enough to submit the draft for review via WP:AFC. Is this okay? Have a great day. MikeOwen discuss  16:49, 23 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Of the four administrators who deleted these pages (see the logs linked above), I am not the one who is going to take it on again. – Athaenara  ✉  21:22, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

User sandbox deleted
→  in re: 

What the heck? Why are you running around deleting perfectly valid pages?

You deleted Ahmad b. Jalal al-Din Kasani so fast that I didn't even see it before you did it. There was nothing that didn't conform to Wikipedia standards. I also wrote the Encyclopedia of Islam (Brill) article on him. He's just an ordinary historical figure! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vikagardner (talk • contribs) 12:14, 24 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Your last edit to that page was in March 2013, so it could have been treated as misuse of Wikipedia as a web host (WP:CSD) or as an abandoned draft (WP:CSD). The tagger chose the former, and it was accordingly deleted, but I have restored it for you and removed the tag without prejudice.  You are welcome.  – Athaenara  ✉  12:28, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Template:Geobox2 unit/weight
→  in re:, ,  →  see also: Templates for discussion/Log/2018 November 11 

please restore Template:Geobox2 unit/weight and move it back to Template:Unit weight which will fix the thousands of broken transclusions caused by its deletion (see Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Unit_weight). thank you. Frietjes (talk) 17:25, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅. I think I did what you asked, please check to see if it was right.  – Athaenara  ✉  18:10, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * thank you, that works, although we don't need Template:Geobox2 unit/weight as a redirect, since the redirect uses have been fixed. now if we can get the "Template:WikiProject Czechia" direct restored, we can clear another thousand broken transclusions :) Frietjes (talk) 18:39, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok, that's done, too, I'll see what I can do about the other. – Athaenara  ✉  19:05, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Restored, it's currently a redirect to the apparently prefered name Template:WikiProject Czech Republic. – Athaenara  ✉  19:09, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * It looks like Unit weight isn't needed any more, either, as cvt works just as well or better? – Athaenara  ✉  09:59, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Athaenara, after about 1750 edits yesterday, I replaced the which is just a frontend for cvt with the parameter order reversed.  I have it set up so a bot will replace any new uses that pop up.  if you would like to redelete it, feel free.  otherwise, I will send it to tfd in a few weeks.  Frietjes (talk) 13:01, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I've been checking every day or two to see how the Czechia thing is going and saw today that transclusions of the older deprecated template are down below 1,500 while those of the newer preferred one are well past 28,000. I don't know how much you're into barnstars, but your tireless work on this is surely earning something hefty!  – Athaenara  ✉  21:11, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I haven't been converting transclusions, because, if I recall, it's a harmless redirect.  the push to remove all mentions of Czechia on WP is headed by, and possibly WikiGnomes who don't like redirects. Frietjes (talk) 12:44, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi. I just unified and renamed all Module:Location map/data/Czechia* to be redirects to Module:Location map/data/Czech Republic*. Now we have 11 modules Czech Republic and 11 Czechia redirects - see Template:Location map/List, sooner it was like 7 modules Czechia, 3 modules Czech Republic and 1 redirect Czechia->Czech Republic. Yeah, I wanted to unify the links too, because Czechia is still considered uncommon, and this "invisible" use may be considered disruptive. Also now it is not easy to search through wikipedia and filter "visible" and "invisible" uses of Czechia, at least for me not easy. Chrzwzcz (talk) 18:03, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello Again!
I noticed that you have been plowing through the G13s as fast as I can send them! If you want, I've been Twinkling through Database reports/Stale drafts if you want to go straight to the list I've been using. Hope you are having a good last week of the year! -- Dolotta (talk) 02:54, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks for that, I've been wondering where people find them to tag. – Athaenara  ✉  02:55, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

= 2019 =

Speedy deletions under G7
Hi, I noticed that you deleted multiple pages on 1 December 2018, including Brabim Karki and Annapurna Post which had since 2016 been at Annapurna Post, under WP:G7 (only one editor who now requests deletion), even though multiple editors had contributed some substance to those articles.

If you accepted the G7 tags under WP:IAR on the basis that the articles were mostly originated by user:Ozar77, and appeared highly unlikely to survive AfD as non-notable, then I believe you ought to have referred to this rationale in your deletion log entries.

However, if you accepted the G7 tags at face value without checking the page history, please would you be more careful in future?

As for Nepal News Network International, I am undeleting this in accordance with the decision at Articles for deletion/Nepal News Network International. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:05, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure, thanks for your note. – Athaenara  ✉  10:02, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Taxonomy Template CSDs
Hello Athaenara, Thank you for your recent help in clearing up unused, redundant species templates. Unfortunately, I have made an error in a few of these CSD requests as the template should (or should not) have an abbreviated section title in the taxobox. Until I can fix this, I am self reverting several edits and request that you restore the following templates so that they can be used in the interim. Thank you, and sorry for the inconvenience.Loopy30 (talk) 14:48, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Template:Taxonomy/Levenhookia leptantha
 * Template:Taxonomy/Levenhookia octomaculata
 * Template:Taxonomy/Levenhookia pauciflora
 * Template:Taxonomy/Levenhookia preissii
 * Template:Taxonomy/Levenhookia pulcherrima
 * Template:Taxonomy/Levenhookia pusilla
 * Template:Taxonomy/Levenhookia sonderi
 * ✅, no problem. – Athaenara  ✉  15:57, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, working on a permanent fix now for those associated articles so that the taxobox will display sections and subgenera in the correct format (capitalisation and abbreviations). 'Cheers, Loopy30 (talk) 18:43, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The fix was simple and has been completed now. The templates are all confirmed (on PetScan) to be unused and can be deleted at any time. Thanks again, Loopy30 (talk) 13:41, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * and done again! – Athaenara  ✉  17:15, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Queen Radio
→  in re: 

Why did you delete the Queen Radio Page But frank ocean had the Blonded radio page,the radio show was to promote his Music too but it is still here. WIKIZILE (talk) 17:14, 10 January 2019 (UTC)


 * You changed the redirect target and then blanked the page, so Dw122339 added a db-g7 tag and away it went. Do you want it back?  – Athaenara  ✉  21:32, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Never mind, it wasn't a single-author page anyway, so G7 was improper. I undeleted the page and restored Galobtter's 10:19, 29 December 2018‎ UTC redirect.  I recommend not blanking it again. – Athaenara  ✉  21:41, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

New Queen Radio Article on the way WIKIZILE (talk) 16:21, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Union of Women Painters and Sculptors
→  in re:  →  see also: 

You seem to have deleted this by G13 a few mintes after I restored it from deletion as probably notable. I've restored it again. (Normally I make an edit to make sure the template does not reappear--I seem to have forgotten this time) If you think it's hopeless, please use MfD.  DGG ( talk ) 06:48, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. It was just an abandoned draft. I deleted it as such per its Db-G13 tag, knowing that many are undeleted and deleted again, or undeleted and, as in this case, rescued and sent to article space.  – Athaenara  ✉  08:56, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

The Joke (song)
I want to accept a draft submission, which is to be moved to The Joke (song), at where a redirect exists. Will you please delete it?.-- Flooded  with them hundreds 10:01, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. – Athaenara ✉  10:21, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks!-- Flooded  with them hundreds 10:45, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

User:BonTheFox13
→  in re:, , Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of BonTheFox13  →  see also: on Commons, BonTheFox13 account created September 2018, Dongduongvip account created January 2019 

A new user (User:Dongduongvip) made strange edits to my talk page. Checking their contributions, they appear to want BonTheFox13 unblocked. Might this be a sock? I ask you since you indeffed BonTheFox13. Thank you for your consideration of this matter and happy editing! :) --Ebyabe (talk) 12:45, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * According to BonTheFox13's now-deleted user page, he's a 13 year old kid in Vietnam. That account was registered in August 2018, but the Dongduongvip account was registered in June 2015, and the edits are nearly identical.  If it's the same kid, he was 9 or 10 years old when he registered as Donduongvip?


 * I was tempted to indef block Dongduongvip for disruption, but I don't want to go one on one with a prankster like this as if he has the attention of only one admin who is making a special project of him. Could you post on WP:ANI (or some more specific appropriate venue) about it?  – Athaenara  ✉  16:11, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Hmmm
→  in re: 

That was very certainly not eligible for G13. – Uanfala (talk) 04:33, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Page restored as per your complaint. – Athaenara  ✉  04:37, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Natzione
→  in re: (contribs) (global lock log) 

Hello Athaenara, I am the user Natzione. I would like to explain why I am asking to delete my talk page and why this request is acceptable. The message left in my talk page was by another Italian user, and it was just an apology message in Italian by that user who had not understood some of my edits. I know that user talk pages are not "generally" deleted because they "might" contain pieces of discussions, notifications of bad behaviours, and other things we should keep recorded, keep track of. This is just an apology message, not even needed because our edits had ended before that message was written. Some days before, I had already received another message from another user, who was just thanking me for some of my edits. I asked for the page to be deleted and it was almost immediately deleted. I wonder why I could not do the same thing now. Really, I have done very few edits and I am going to do just a few more, I would like my talk page to be a "red link". Well, should I do or have done any vandalisms or something against rules I would not demand or would not have demand to delete a page where, for example, a block notification or a block warning was put, but this is not the case, there is just that personal message as there was another some days before. I am asking you, please, to delete my talk page, which is currently blank. As I have explained there is nothing deserving to be kept for any reasons there, so I would like to ask you this favour. In case there will be any need in future to restore it, I know that admins have the tools to recreate it and its history, so it would not be lost forever, just it will appear as if it had not been created yet. I hope you will do this favour for me. Whatever you want to answer please write here, this request is quite obvious. Thanks. 5.171.1.122 (talk) 19:44, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Request
 * I deleted the page in January but it was re-created a few days ago, then deleted and undeleted (log) by another admin. I considered your request seriously, but I will not engage in what is called wheel warring. Aside from that, my view of it is different from yours: the welcome message was harmless, the subsequent message was harmless, and there would have been nothing wrong with just leaving those two messages undisturbed there. – Athaenara ✉  20:42, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 * To illustrate my point, this is what the page would look like. – Athaenara ✉  20:50, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thank you for your answer. I did not thought at all that somebody would leave a thanks message and an apology message, I am happy that somebody wanted to tell me such things but I did not want my talk page to be created for that. Shortly I will be moving to the Italian version where I registered my account, I would rather my talk page not to exist here if there is nothing significant inside. Are you sure that you do not want to give it at least a try and delete it on my request? The admin who restored my page was the one who deleted it just before that, I do not know why he changed his mind but I am sure that he would not mind at all if the page is deleted again on my request, he had not been connecting for over a month when he deleted and restored it. In case I am wrong and he comes back to recreate it I will not ask for the deletion again, but at least give it a try, please. It is not a bad thing and I have done nothing bad, I just would like not to have a talk page here. 5.171.1.217 (talk) 07:39, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * It's true that the other admin might not mind, but why not just ask him yourself? If you provide a link to this discussion in your message, you won't have to restate everything you've written here at length. – Athaenara ✉  12:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

I could, but as I said that admin is currently inactive, his last edit before his intervention on my talk page goes back to 24 December 2017 (one year and one month, not just one month, I have just noticed it). Have a look here... It seems strange to me that he logged in just after my request and just to accept it and then revert himself, as if he wanted to "set a precedent" for that "wheel warring" you have talked about... If there were not these circumstances and he was still active I would have asked him instead of you, but against this background I am sure that this matter can be set easily with a deletion of my talk page on my request by a different admin than him. I am not asking the moon after all. 5.171.1.164 (talk) 17:54, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Flattering as it is to be treated as your personal custom bespoke administrator (a little mild sarcasm there), there are lengths to which I do not care to go. It seems to me you'd like the page to be deleted every time anyone posts on it, or perhaps even protected so nobody can post on it.  Having a user talk page is a normal part of having a registered user account on Wikipedia, why seek such special treatment here?  – Athaenara  ✉  22:32, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I have restored (diff) the two friendly messages which were posted to your user talk page. Please adapt to the reality that such messages are quite normal, are not vandalism, and interfere in no way with you or with Wikipedia.  – Athaenara  ✉  22:44, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

I did not mean what you said. If a discussion about anything had started in my talk page, or if I was notified that an edit of mine had been undone because it was against rules, I would have not asked for my talk page to be deleted as it was before such messages. It is just this, I am sincerely annoyed by useless messages such as those, and since they both are nothing important at all I asked to delete my page, that is to restore it as a red link, as it was before those messages. If you are not rconsidering your decision not to do this favour to me I will not insist any longer. But I could not believe that you unblanked my talk page and readded the messages, overall after you yourself said that "it's perfectly acceptable to blank the page". At least restore my previous blanking, I will not ask you again to delete the page and perhaps I will try with the admin who deleted and restored it, as you sugested, even if I have no real hopes he will listen to my request. 5.171.1.57 (talk) 13:21, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * One thing you could have done, and still can do if the situation arises again, is leave messages on the user talk pages of those who posted to you personally rather than on the article talk pages, asking them to please post such messages on article talk pages instead of on your user talk page. – Athaenara  ✉  13:24, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Or, even more logically, respond to their messages on your user talk page, telling them that you would prefer they engage in such conversations on the article talk pages. – Athaenara  ✉  15:06, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Yes... But this would not solve the present issue. The talk page was created, even if other users continued posting new messages the situation does not change for me, I should have anticipated the users who wrote those messages in my talk page by telling them in their talk pages not to write those messages in my talk page... And since you do not want to grant my request to delete my talk page at least you should not have restored the messages which I had removed ("it's perfectly acceptable to blank the page") so I am asking you the favour to reblank the page, please. 5.171.1.48 (talk) 19:17, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Recent deletion
→  in re: 

Hi. I noticed you Template:Evangelical Christianity-stub and linked to TfD in the log entry. It was actually discussed at CfD - is there any way to correct this after-the-fact? If not, its not a big issue, just wondering. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 06:54, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching that. Categories for discussion/Log/2019 February 3 was the right place, but I failed to notice that the canned deletion summary linked another discussion.  Undeleted and re-deleted now.  – Athaenara  ✉  07:00, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Module:URLWD
→  in re: 	 

I see that you have closed Templates for discussion/Log/2019 February 19 as 'delete' even though the debate seems to favour merging, not deletion. You have since speedy deleted Module:URLWD as WP:CSD, which I believe is out-of-process as I am the author and I have not requested deletion. Please reverse your closure and deletion to allow proper consideration of the option to merge the functionality of the modules. Thanks in advance, --RexxS (talk) 16:23, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅  I misinterpreted your 23:49, 19 February 2019 (UTC) post as supporting deletion.  – Athaenara  ✉  21:35, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Athaenara, I would be quite happy to see the module deleted after it's been merged, but we need to see it to do the merger first! Cheers --RexxS (talk) 22:22, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Btw, I never edited the TfD page, much less closed any discussion on it (it was closed by AnomieBOT, an edit which was reverted by Pppery). – Athaenara  ✉  01:44, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes,, but your CSD deletion automatically triggered AnomieBOT to close the TfD discussion, that's how it works. Technically, the bot closed the TfD; in reality you were responsible for it. Without your undeletion, any attempt to unclose the TfD would be reverted by the bot. --RexxS (talk) 02:09, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't know anything about automatic triggers. I didn't close a discussion, and I'm not "responsible for it".  – Athaenara  ✉  02:26, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

thanks for that
→  in re: wikipedia"wikiproject western australia wheatbelt/people, western australia wheatbelt project/people  →  see also: Category:People from the Wheatbelt (Western Australia) 

was getting very confused - think I need to stay from that bit for a bit - wheatbelt western australia - thank you JarrahTree 13:49, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not surprised! I got confused too, but I think it's OK now. – Athaenara  ✉  14:01, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

→  in re:, 
 * thank you

trying to cleanup JarrahTree 07:42, 3 April 2019 (UTC) its always appreciated when things are done like that - mighnt seem much to some, but always good to do the shakespearian out damned spot on unwanted sub pages JarrahTree 10:34, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * You are welcome.  – Athaenara  ✉  10:30, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Global Warning Tour
→  see also: WWE Global Warning Tour: Melbourne log, WWE Global Warning Tour log, WWE Global Warning log 

I see that you recently salted WWE Global Warning Tour: Melbourne. A compromise was recently made at Talk:Professional wrestling in Australia to include the related content at WWE in Australia. Could you please redirect WWE Global Warning Tour: Melbourne, WWE Global Warning Tour and WWE Global Warning to that section? Thanks.LM2000 (talk) 05:19, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ As the page logs show, at least five of us salted them.  – Athaenara  ✉  06:35, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * This has been a problem for years, hopefully it's over now. Thanks for the help.LM2000 (talk) 06:40, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Tamer el-Refai
→  in re:  →  see also: Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1003 

Hi Athaenara,

Regarding your speedy of this article; the user is retiring, and nominating many of their articles for deletion. My recollection from seeing this a few times is that we've generally not considered this a "good faith" nomination; the most recent example I can think of was Seraphim System. While I have zero concerns about your deletion of this page in isolation, I wanted you to know the pattern. If you agree, perhaps you could gently add a comment at User talk:Fitzcarmalan? They're upset, so I don't want to bludgeon them, and I'm probably coming off as a jerk there in spite of my best efforts. And, of course, if you think we should be deleting all these, and I am being a jerk, then that would be good to know too. We could ask at WT:CSD or WP:AN or someplace. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:45, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The guy is edit warring over this. I looked at a few of these and related talk page exchanges, deleted just one small page, and backed away because I don't need strangers melting down on me today.  – Athaenara  ✉  22:25, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Understood. Of all the articles he nominated, the one you deleted is the most obvious candidate for a G7, so perhaps I'll just leave it deleted, cross my fingers on the rest, and see what happens. Thanks. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:32, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * And btw I don't think you've been being a jerk. – Athaenara  ✉  22:51, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Wightman Cup
→  in re:, (TfD)  →  see also:, Templates for discussion/Log/2019 February 27 

I don't see how, exactly "unused redirect" is a valid reason to G6 a template. This seems like it should have gone to RfD rather than be speedy deleted. &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 12:42, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Restored, Lt links above for both for comparison. – Athaenara  ✉  20:25, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * You forgot to restore the doc page (in my opinion, doc pages of redirects do not meet any CSD criteria and should be redirected instead of deleted). &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 20:29, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Template:Scottish council control
→  in re: 

could you either fix the 30 articles using Template:Scottish council control or restore the template until they can be fixed? thank you. Frietjes (talk) 16:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Restored. – Athaenara  ✉  22:31, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Can you please restore Template:Scottish council control. It is still used in 33 articles and is causing some issues. Not sure what it was deleted via WP:G8... -- Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:16, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Template:Scottish council control


 * and I got the template, its talk page, and a /doc page, hope I didn't miss any.  – Athaenara  ✉  22:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

→  in re: 
 * Template:Infobox Scotland council area

And now re-delete unused Template:Infobox Scotland council area, as the undeletion request was not for the infobox. 78.54.186.169 (talk) 06:32, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * How about this: and now log in, or register if you haven't. – Athaenara  ✉  09:09, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * How about this: Don't undelete stuff out of nothing and disturb those that watch Category:Templates calling Infobox settlement? 78.54.186.169 (talk) 12:14, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Both Infobox Scotland council area and Scottish council control have no more transclusions (except themselves) can now be deleted. --Gonnym (talk) 10:42, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅.  Let me know if there are more.  – Athaenara  ✉  11:24, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Template:Vandalism about
→  in re: 

could you either fix the 17 pages using template:Vandalism about, or restore it so it can be replaced by a bot? thank you. Frietjes (talk) 18:12, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Restored. – Athaenara  ✉  22:31, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:Malaysian Grand Prix
→  in re: 

Please undelete Template:Malaysian Grand Prix. It had only been tagged for speedy deletion for 14 hours. WP:T3 says it may be deleted after being tagged for seven days. I updated the template and asked for interest at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Formula One. I planned to let it be deleted after seven days if the WikiProject was not interested so I didn't protest on the talk page. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:22, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. – Athaenara  ✉  20:40, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

User:Majorly/Removed stuff
Since you deleted User:Majorly/Removed stuff, can you please nuke the talk page too? Thanks. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 16:13, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Subpages
→  see also: MFDs for Portal:Khowar, Portal:Men in Black, Portal:Alien (franchise) 

Hey A, I saw you were the deleting admin. on Portal:Khowar and Portal:Men in Black. Those portals had a bunch of subpages as well; can you take care of them or do I have to tag each subpage with CSD G8 myself instead? Thanks! UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:58, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I remember trying to do that and, as so often, running into trouble identifying which pages actually linked or transcluded those portals or what pages existed which were subsidiary to them. I can't delete what I can't find, but perhaps between us we can clean that up.  – Athaenara  ✉  03:45, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The links to the lists of subpages are here and here. Hope that helps. UnitedStatesian (talk) 05:26, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, all thirty two Khowar items deleted. – Athaenara  ✉  07:14, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ and nine MiB items as well. – Athaenara  ✉  07:18, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Portal:Alien had a bunch of subpages as well; can you take care of them also? UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:42, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅, and thanks for bringing them to my attention. – Athaenara  ✉  22:26, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

→  see also: Templates for discussion/Log/2019 April 9 
 * Module:Country extract

since you deleted Module:Country extract, you should probably delete the subpages as well: thank you. Frietjes (talk) 15:58, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ and thank you very much for linking them all here as you did so I could proceed without delay from .  – Athaenara  ✉  10:44, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

About Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals/Popular portals
→  in re: 

Hello,

I noticed you deleted WikiProject Portals/Popular portals, which I contested deletion for. Because I was the only editor (except from one other editor requesting speedy deletion) and I didn't want it deleted, I doubt that G7 is valid criteria to use here. Also I had added info to the page, to explain that the page was wating for the bot to come along and fill it (I was waiting to see if the bot would fill the page when it was created). This also means that G6 does not apply, as it has other edits.

Although I am not too fused about deletion, I don't think either criteria were validly used here. Thanks, Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 22:14, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Sarre Brooch
→  in re: and  

"(Deletion log); 02:47 Athaenara talk contribs deleted page Sarre Brooch ‎(G6: Deleted to make room for an uncontroversial page move)" - what on earth was this about? Johnbod (talk) 03:14, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * When I saw it, the page history showed its 00:16, 28 October 2014 (UTC) creation by you as a redirect to Quoit brooch and MauraWen's 01:00, 21 May 2019 (UTC) db-move tag showing the intention to move the article developed in user sandbox space to that mainspace page name. – Athaenara ✉  06:51, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Ok, I couldn't see that, & the term was just a redlink. I'm not sure it was uncontroversial, as the proposed new stub has less info than already existed at the redirect. Seems like the wrong rationale to me, but whatever. Thanks. Johnbod (talk) 11:48, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry if I caused a problem by deleting the redirect. I thought that a standalone (slightly smaller article) on a famous brooch was a better article to have in the Wikipedia mainspace than the alternative of information on the brooch in a paragraph of an article on an art style named for the brooch. Is there a Wikipedia philosophy/guideline on the best approach to this type of situation: embedded subject vs standalone subject? I just want to understand so I won't make this mistake again (if it was s a mistake). MauraWen (talk) 12:27, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * No worries - I just didn't understand what was going on. I've added a couple of bits from your draft to Quoit brooch. Personally I think the reader is better served in this case by keeping the two together, when the brooch is much the best example of the distinctive style, & needs to be understood in this context. There's no general "philosophy/guideline on the best approach to this type of situation", & the best approach varies from case to case, but the needs of the reader should always be thought about, and if not sure, you can always ask the editors who set up the redirect, or did the target. For me, the standout AS brooches needing articles are the  Pentney Hoard (we have photos), or the Trewhiddle style could get its own article. But there are others, without such close ties to a style.  Johnbod (talk) 12:39, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The most standard construction in an article such as Quoit brooch with a section about an important example would be to use main under the section heading for it followed by a brief paragraph or two of the important high points. Quoit brooch itself is still fairly brief but as its current brevity is not necessarily a permanent condition it wouldn't be inappropriate to do this.  I could, for example, redelete the redirect, move the sandbox article to that page name, and again undelete the other edits which complete the page history.  – Athaenara  ✉  01:33, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't really say that myself when the Sarre coverage is so short in both - "main" should only really be used when the "main" article is significantly longer (or, say, we had lots of photos, which we don't have). Johnbod (talk) 01:37, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. This has been very educational. No need to delete the redirect. MauraWen (talk) 13:30, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Redirects deleted instead of retargeted?


Hi there. My apologies if I'm in the wrong place, but did you intend to delete XJet and X-Jet? According to the discussion(s) they should both have been targeted to X-Jet (disambiguation). Did something go wrong? Thanks for looking into this. (Courtesy ping to and  incase they have a better idea as to what happened.) - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 20:05, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The result was disambiguate. Not retarget. And the redirects were never truly deleted. Invalid OS (talk) 22:59, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks like one or both of you or somebody else cleared this up. If not, please let me know what remains for me to do.  Thanks.  – Athaenara  ✉  02:55, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think it was Steel1943. Sorry to clutter your talk page. One last pedantic point because I can't help myself: InvalidOS is correct for X-Jet as the outcome was disambiguate for that one, but XJet was supposed to retarget to that disambiguation page. When I first posted the message here both articles had been deleted for a number of hours which didn't make any sense and was the cause of my confusion. There was never any need to delete or move anything as the disambiguation entries had already been created below the redirect at X-Jet. All that was needed to be done was to close out the RfD templates, retarget XJet, remove the redirect at X-Jet (leaving the already-created DAB entries), and then create X-Jet (disambiguation) and XJet (disambiguation) targeting the disambiguation page per WP:DABNAME. Unless I'm missing something? Was G6 requested for some other reason that I'm missing? - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 03:19, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I undeleted the previous edits of the two I deleted, which has no effect on their current state but keeps their page histories intact. G6 came from the 13:37, 24 May 2019 (UTC) tag which I took at face value without squinting closely enough at the linked discussion.  – Athaenara  ✉  04:16, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, I should have mentioned that above. Thanks for double checking. :) - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 11:44, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The G6 was because I mistakenly moved X-Jet to X-Jet (disambiguation). I was trying to undo the move, hence why X-Jet got tagged for G6. Sorry about that.  Invalid OS (talk) 12:19, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

User:Hot boy 03225482695
→  in re: 

please ban this user, check his userpage and talkpage. -- Cpt Viraj   (Talk)   17:23, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. – Athaenara  ✉  17:25, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Regards! -- Cpt Viraj   (Talk)   17:29, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Lionel Duroy
Hi, you recently deleted the draft page dedicated to this author. Can you tell me how you did it so that I don't have to wait for someone else to perform the task next time. Thanks in advance. LouisAlain (talk) 05:29, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * You created it as Draftspace:Lionel Duroy (log) and blanked it, after which user JalenFolf tagged it db-author for deletion per WP:CSD. ("Draftspace" isn't an actual page space on Wikipedia, though we speak of draft space, article space, main space, talk space, etc.)  – Athaenara  ✉  14:08, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your answer. LouisAlain (talk) 14:11, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. – Athaenara  ✉  15:20, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Combining Three Antifa MFDs
→  in re: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Yozzer66/userboxes/Antifa 

I see that you agreed with me in deleting one of the three MFDs for Antifa userboxes. But the other one was reverted by User:RHaworth. Can you and he please resolve whether we have one bundled MFD or three separate MFDs? Maybe he misunderstood and thought that I was trying to speedy the userbox rather than to speedy the extra MFDs. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:37, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Robert, I removed the speedy tag because you had failed to bracket it with and as a result Miscellany for deletion and other pages were appearing spuriously in CAT:CSD. If you re-apply the tag properly cloaked, I shall not touch the page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:51, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Undeleted as it might as well be visible, for now anyway. – Athaenara  ✉  22:20, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Followup: creator of other two pages requested db-g7 (diff), both gone. – Athaenara ✉  01:00, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Alpha-1 antitrypsin deficiency
→  in re: and  

How is the page deletion Alpha-1 antitrypsin deficiency justified? This is the usual entry term - check Google - the long-standing page Alpha-1 antitrypsin uses the correct form - it's ridiculous to have two different forms.Iztwoz (talk) 10:04, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Page deletion

Seems like it now exists - have no idea why it's been such a drawn-out process. Best Iztwoz (talk) 10:08, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I did a double take on it myself when I saw it in the db-g6 speedy deletion category. Look closely, it's a very sneaky little typo/misspelling.  – Athaenara  ✉  10:57, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

New AFA article
→  in re:,  →  see also: Teahouse/Questions/Archive 974 

You were very helpful with a redirect issue I had a few months ago. I thought I would ask you for help with a new issue. I wrote a draft called "Association for Feminist Anthropology" and found it had a redirect to a paragraph on the Anthropology Association page. I went to the Teahouse for help in having the redirect deleted. One editor said, "No problem," they would remove the redirect and the next editor said no, my draft had only one source--the organization. I have found additional sources since then, but I am a little reluctant to ask the teahouse for help on this article. I would appreciate it if you could remove the redirect and move the article, The Association for Feminist Anthropology to "Association for Feminist Anthropology", If you can't, or there is a problem, please let me know what I should do next. thanks MauraWen (talk) 00:14, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * AFA--need help with deleting a redirect and moving a new article
 * The referencing doesn't look strong to me, it suffers from some peacock language ("founding leader", "dedicated scholar", "major contribution"), and I'm frankly not interested in politicized topics. Maybe somebody at WikiProject Academic Journals would have some useful and helpful views.  – Athaenara  ✉  10:21, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your input. I had never thought of these organizations as being politicized (until now). Do you think this article should be deleted? I will not pursue having the redirect removed. And thank you for responding quickly! MauraWen (talk) 10:48, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

FYI - Articles for deletion/Besan mehndi
Hii, As per my grand parents, this tradition exists in Hinduism for some regions of India but since there was no source i think deletion is valid. -- CptViraj (📧) 13:50, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Dejana Erić
→  in re:, 

You have recently deleted Dejana Erić. Could you please move it to draft, so when more realiable sources are found and/or she gets albums etc. needed for relevance – article can be just expanded with no need to rewrite it from beginning? Same was done with Nusreta Kobić and I don't see a reason for censorship because it is no vandalism. Thanks. --5.43.99.155 (talk) 17:53, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. – Athaenara  ✉  18:52, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Simulation12
→  in re: WP:SPI Simulation12 

Hello. Thanks for the report. There's a simple rule for this one. Anyone doing absolutely anything with Simulation12 sockpuppets or tags should be reverted, blocked, disbelieved, and ignored. -- zzuuzz (talk) 16:48, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up, the very little I knew about it was from a few WP:G5's in the past week. – Athaenara  ✉  18:44, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem, also just saying, no need to undo any of your actions - nothing of value was lost, as they say. -- zzuuzz (talk) 18:50, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay. – Athaenara  ✉  18:55, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

John Ferrer
→  in re:, , etc. 

I jus wanted to thank you for cleaning up those dead John Ferrar articles. I would have done it myself except I don't know how and probably don't have the requisite rights.Oldperson (talk) 20:21, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for cleaning up the "dead" John Ferrar articles
 * You are welcome. – Athaenara  ✉  21:01, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

doc page revert and deletion
→  in re: 

This is about the /doc page you deleted, Template:Indo-Aryan languages/doc, and the revert of my creation and application of that /doc page. The reverting editor has tried to garner consensus for non-inclusion of separate /doc pages; however they have not been able to do so and yet they continue to revert helpful /doc pages. As you may know, there has been a long-term community consensus for the creation and usage of separate documentation pages for at least as long as I've been editing Wikipedia, especially for templates like Indo-Aryan languages, one of the longer and more complex ones. I ask that you please reconsider the deletion of this useful /doc page, so that when it is edited in the future, it does not require reparsing every instance of the template.  P. I. Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there 16:55, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Undeleted per your request. – Athaenara  ✉  19:26, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much, Athaenara!  P. I. Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there 00:13, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Teri Meri Kahani
→  in re:  →  see also: (SPI) 

As I see, you have deleted the article Teri Meri Kahani despite having a good content and several sources, just because it was created by a blocked user. Currently I want to recreate the article but can't remember the content. So, would it be possible for you to retrieve those content so that I could create the article with few more contents and a few sources? Please help me in retrieving the content. Thank You. —Preceding undated comment added 13:54, 28 December 2019‎ (UTC)


 * As I asked and was granted relief from administrator duties last month (see previous "Not admining any more" discussion), I cannot help you with reviewing or retrieving deleted content. – Athaenara  ✉  22:22, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

= 2020 =

thank you
→  in re: many deletions of this sort 

The star etc material is giving me the beegees, over 100 items with user name in the title, and from a non admin non awb user perspective it is nightmarish, thank you...

and assume no clue on your user page is a comforting item, as it ties into grief... I like it JarrahTree 00:29, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for that - might have a few more, (no appropriate emoji for 100 page moves) as my page moving thingi does not seem to want to know that I dont want a redirect from a user name - odd, it did for a while then reverted to adding the implausible redirects... JarrahTree 00:43, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey, happy to help, you are welcome. – Athaenara  ✉  00:35, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

 * Thanks, and good to see you too.  – Athaenara  ✉  03:21, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Deletion
I noticed you deleted Cornelius (play), but I had a message on the talk page explaining it should have been moved to It Shines Towards Us, which was a copy/paste move, because the former had a more extensive revision history. <b style="color:#00FF00">MB</b> 17:39, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, I undeleted it, I'll leave it to other administrators for better deletion summaries :) – Athaenara  ✉  17:43, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Template:StnlnkO/doc
Please restore: I tagged this page by mistake (my bad). Thanks. AlgaeGraphix (talk) 20:47, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ – Athaenara ✉  03:14, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Copy of Relaxo Footwear
→  in re: 

Hi

I am honestly surprised that this was speedy deleted. All it had was two or three sentences, all of which were properly cited. So I fail to see how it was "unambiguous advertising". Can you provide me a copy of the article so that I can work on it in my sandbox and perhaps submit it through AfC? Thank you. M4DU7 (talk) 22:33, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Moved to User:M4DU7/Relaxo Footwear. – Athaenara  ✉  20:48, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Rafael Acevedo (writer)
→  in re:, 

I just had this draft refunded so that I could work on it but you have now deleted it again. Please revert. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:30, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ (I removed the speedy deletion tag which wasn't removed after the previous [un]deletion.) – Athaenara  ✉  09:44, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Example2011
Can you give me an XML export of this or something? What was on this page? ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:24, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Mainly it promoted "Visit Indy" and hadn't been edited since February 2015. – Athaenara  ✉  00:01, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , Well, I created that as an instruction. I'd like you to please undelete. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:53, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * How many accounts have you registered and used? – Athaenara  ✉  07:43, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , Two. INS Please use ping if you are going to respond here. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:06, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The Koavf and Example2011 accounts only? – Athaenara  ✉  04:33, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Exactly. I made the latter account as a campus ambassador, real-time in a training session. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:42, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Can you give me an XML export of this or something? ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:13, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Please recreate this page. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:27, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. – Athaenara  ✉  05:52, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Okate Life
→  in re:  →  see also: 

Kindly accept my speedily deletion. I created this page under my old username of DragoMynaa. See Administrators' noticeboard/Archive320. -- TamilMirchi (talk) 02:51, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. – Athaenara  ✉  04:26, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Matvey Lykov
→  in re:, 

Just letting you know - I've undeleted and draftified this, per an off-wiki discussion with the creator. I think it may be salvageable, though it will need some work. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:49, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I concur with this move. It was improperly speedy deleted under the G11 rationale. An article that long with good faith attempts at sourcing and fitting the Wikipedia style does NOT deserve a speedy deletion. The G11 criteria is for "Unambiguous advertising or promotion" and that content is not "unambiguous" whatsoever. -- Fuzheado &#124; Talk 17:15, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. – Athaenara  ✉  00:10, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Category:Rabbis that emigrated to Israel
→  in re: rabbis that emigrated to israel, rabbis that emigrated to the land of israel 

Hi, please note the category isn't the same thing as Land of Israel category and have two different scopes. Thanks. Sir Joseph (talk) 23:36, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Deletion review for Draft:Typical Gamer
→  in re: 

Some random IP has asked for a deletion review of Draft:Typical Gamer. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —Cryptic 10:03, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Undeleted for discussion. – Athaenara  ✉  12:56, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Unblocking Draft:D'Angelo Wallace
Hey there, I'm looking to rewrite the D'Angelo Wallace draft using a few sources which have come out since the draft article was deleted (eg this Insider article) in a more NPOV. Would it be possible to have it undeleted temporarily so I can start the rewrite? – Bangalamania (talk) 20:31, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Pennridge–Quakertown Thanksgiving Day Football Classic
Hi. Not sure if you were aware when you deleted the above article that there was an AfD pending, which was trending strongly to "keep". See Articles for deletion/Pennridge–Quakertown Thanksgiving Day Football Classic and discussion at User talk:Cbl62. Rather than speedy delete, I suggest the AfD continue. Would you mind reverting your deletion so the process can run its course? Cbl62 (talk) 05:39, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Undeleted so discussion may resume there (the AfD page will need some template cleanup*). – Athaenara  ✉  17:56, 19 November 2020 (UTC) (Eagles247 took care of  template cleanup.)  – Athaenara  ✉  18:00, 19 November 2020 (UTC) *

Iraqi civil war
Can the Iraqi Civil War (2006–2008) redirect (NOT THE ARTICLE THAT IT REDIRECTS TO) be deleted ASAP? I am trying to revert an undiscussed move by a user however i couldn’t because of the existence of that redirect. Thanks Ridax2020 (talk) 11:42, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅, let me know if this went wrong in any way. – Athaenara  ✉  13:21, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The move has been reverted due to a mistake i did and i have put a move request and we will for a consensus in 7 days to move it again, could you please delete the article again? Thanks for helping earlier. Ridax2020 (talk) 10:37, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Please restore Creately
I created the article Creately couple of weeks back. I had seen another editor did not like it and placed promotional tag on the article. I tried to address the concern and sought for help but no one helped me. I could not login in Wikipedia for last week for the festive time and now when I logged in I found the page has been deleted by you. The software is an old software among diagram making tool which has several references in books, journals, well known news sites and so forth. Can you please restore the page as I think it has it should have its place in Wikipedia being notable. Regarding promotional content removal, please guide me so that I can remove or rewrite problematic part. user:Waggers advised me to read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, which I did and it said my argumentation in favor of an article can not be 'based solely on what other articles do or do not exist' which was never my argument. My primary emphasis was the software is very notable and why in spite of being notable it can not have its place where there are pages with inferior references and notability and if the tone or language of the article I wrote was promotional, then many other articles should be accused in same manner. Hareshamjadu (talk) 13:28, 27 December 2020 (UTC) Hareshamjadu (talk) 13:28, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

= 2021 =

Draft:Meñnär
→  in re:, 

Good day, Athaenara! Could You send me please the content of this page?--Фәрһад (talk) 14:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * As in the deletion log (here): "If you wish to retrieve it, please see WP:REFUND/G13". – Athaenara  ✉  16:32, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Deleting a redirect
→  in re: and  

Hi, could you look at deleting one of my redirects, Halime Hatun (fictional character), please as it’s the target page and correct title for Halime Sultan (fictional character)? There is strong consensus for this move. Thank you. IronManCap (talk) 18:37, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't know where the consensus is, did you take it to Redirects for discussion? – Athaenara  ✉  22:58, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, Athaenara, this matter has been settled now, thanks for your reply. See Talk:Halime Hatun (fictional character). Thanks. IronManCap (talk) 01:19, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Fake election sandboxes
→  in re: and Administrators%27 noticeboard/Archive330 

I see you've declined speedy deletion of User:Metooxas/sandbox. I disagree that it's a legitimate sandbox - with an election dated 80 years in the future, it is obviously not a draft or notes for any kind of mainspace article. Based on their editing pattern (uploading fake election maps to Commons, and almost all enwiki edits making fake election infoboxes in their user sandbox), they are one of a number of users from alternate history forums who are using Wikipedia as free webhosting. This recent AN discussion about such users seemed to have consensus that sandboxes of obviously fake elections were WP:NOTWEBHOST violations and should be deleted. Thanks, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:01, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I wasn't aware of a "fake" aspect or permutations of that. Remembering my own early days of editing (and my efforts annoyed a few at the time*), I thought it was somebody just practicing editing.  – Athaenara  ✉  00:48, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * * (2006 example as cited here in a 2019 Signpost discussion.) – Athaenara  ✉  01:36, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

S795 coffee page deletion
→  in re:, , , etc. 

I recently was cleaning out subpages of my account but it seems that somehow an actual wiki article S795 Coffee was also(?) deleted.

The subpage in my user space was the original draft for the wiki article.

The original page I wanted deleted does seem to have been deleted but it seems the other article was as well. Very odd.

Thank you in advance for your help sorting through this.

--Michael.C.Wright (talk) 06:06, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, I restored S795 coffee and its talk page and undid your 05:50, 13 April 2021‎ (UTC) edit that blanked the page and tagged it for deletion. Hope all is as it should be now.  – Athaenara  ✉  06:20, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I just checked it and it looks good. Thank you for fixing that. I'm not sure how I was able to blank both and mark both for deletion. Michael.C.Wright (talk) 06:23, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. – Athaenara  ✉  06:24, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of TheViper
→  in re:, , , , etc. 

Can you please explain why you deleted the article without responding to the discussion first? This is a project I am working on to include the entire esport. Can you explain why this esport does not meet the notability guidelines while its competitors Starcraft and Warcraft do despite Warcraft having a smaller player base? I will be recreating that article and linking the related tournaments as I create them. Youngdrake (talk) 14:05, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I deleted it because of the apparent reasoning of those who tagged it. I won't be pursuing further deletions but rather will be an interested observer on the sidelines.  – Athaenara  ✉  23:46, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

User:Laplorfill
You deleted the page User:Laplorfill Did you mean this? OrewaTel (talk) 09:43, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes. Laplorfill has intentionally left that userpage an uncreated redlink since registering back in September 2013.   created it with a complaint about Laplorfill having quite rightly tagged Dr. hukamchand Bharill for db-g11 deletion.  – Athaenara  ✉  09:55, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I understand now. OrewaTel (talk) 12:27, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

TheAboLaptopAccount's sandbox
→  see also: Requests for undeletion/Archive 360 

I was writing about some events on this sandbox, not in an attempt to publish publicly, but to write about in a Wikipedia style. And I get that people can see it. So I am asking you if I can access )and edit( it privately for myself, because it meant a lot to me. Unknown... (talk) 04:08, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * As it fits WP:U5 (misusing Wikipedia as a web host), and Wikipedia is not here to serve your personal needs, I would not restore it. You've been editing for several months and have mastered the syntax, but there's always WP:DRV.  – Athaenara  ✉  05:00, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

i don't care about editing it anymore, i just wanna see it. Unknown... (talk) 04:08, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * You can't keep a copy here: we're an encyclopedia, not a web host. Do you want to copy it to store somewhere else?  You could ask for advice at WT:DRV (the deletion review talk page), maybe somebody there would help you.   – Athaenara  ✉  20:50, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, and noi don't wanna save it here Unknown... (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 20:52, 2 June 2021‎ (UTC)


 * WT:DRV is absolutely NOT the place go, neither for advice on requests for undeletion nor, especially, for actual REQUESTS for undeletion. Shouldn't you know this? --Calton &#124; Talk 03:50, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I just suggested he could ask for help there, it did not occur to me that it would make anyone angry. – Athaenara  ✉  04:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Kirsty Applebaum draft
Hi Athaenara, I see that you deleted the copyright violating draft Draft:Kirsty Applebaum. I had tagged it for deletion, but before I did that I am almost sure placed an AfC comment on it, explaining that copyright wasn't the only issue. I forgot that the draft's creator wouldn't be able to see the AfC comment once the draft was deleted – comments that are created as part of an AfC decline are copied to the creator's talk page, but other AfC comments are not, and I ought to be aware of that by now... Could I ask you to look at the deleted page and copy my comment to ' user talk page? Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 08:21, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Silly of me
 * ✅ (diff). – Athaenara  ✉  08:30, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --bonadea contributions talk 08:32, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! – Athaenara  ✉  08:33, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Tim Tate
Thanks for cleaning up the mess I left after creating the Tim Tate (author) article, and apologies for not deleting those other pages myself. Meticulo (talk) 03:34, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Georgii Kalnitzky sandbox
→  in re: (archived RfU) 

Hi. Ok, I agree with deletion of my sandbox... But i really want to copy it to store somewhere else. Thank You. – Georgii Kalnitzky (talk) 07:14, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * What was the purpose of that sandbox? – Athaenara  ✉  10:05, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * First of all that page was for improving skills in creating and editing articles. And in combination, this page was used to calm down on the advice of my psychologist (to fight anxiety disorder). I just didn't know that a personal sandbox could be viewed and deleted by someone. Everything that was on that page is very important to me. And I'm ready to move this to another place and continue to be more attentive to the rules of the site. – Georgii Kalnitzky (talk) 09:48, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * There are other administrators who will: see Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles. – Athaenara  ✉  12:20, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Dear, you removed my sandbox, so I want YOU to provide me with a copy. This is an adequate request. Take responsibility for your actions and do not shift them to other administrators. Thanks. – Georgii Kalnitzky (talk) 13:31, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * (1) I'm not your "dear". (2) why not ask the person who tagged your page for deletion per db-u5 and kindly left a message for you on your own talk page, perhaps they have more good advice for you.  – Athaenara  ✉  14:10, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, THANKS A LOT! (sarcasm) – Georgii Kalnitzky (talk) 18:19, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Go to Requests for undeletion, follow the instructions there.  – Athaenara  ✉  19:58, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Check on recreated article
Hello! You deleted the article Ilayaraja (film) back in May 2019 as being created by a blocked user (for using multiple accounts). The article was recreated recently, but I have no way of knowing if this recreation is independent of the deleted article or if this may be a sockpuppet recreation. Would you mind checking? Thank you! BOVINEBOY 2008 02:12, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It's not the same article, and I don't spend enough time in the sockpuppet area to guess immediately whether or not another one has popped up. Sorry.  – Athaenara  ✉  02:24, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * No worries. I'm just going to assume good faith! Thanks! BOVINEBOY 2008 02:27, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * 'k. – Athaenara  ✉  02:28, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Delete
→  in re: 

I wanna know if you could delete this draft? Draft:Prende TV ItsJustdancefan (talk) 22:47, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Delete
→  in re: (deletion review) 

I would like to know why you deleted the article The Black Mamba (Portuguese band)?. First of all without notifying me. Secondly, participating in Eurovision is deemed notable. Their Eurovision entry has charted high in several countries. And the article was sourced. Your reasons for the deletion was faulty at best.BabbaQ (talk) 08:41, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It had been in the speedy deletion categories for awhile. I didn't tag it, and whoever did should have notified you.  You can ask them (see the page history) about that.  – Athaenara  ✉  09:11, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * How could you speedy delete an article that is sourced. And has several chart peaks? Anyway. Thanks for clarifying.--BabbaQ (talk) 09:20, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Came here from DRV. I'm skipping the trout, but please review WP:CCS and understand that your deletion of this article was a mistake. The reason some things stick around CSD for a while is that they don't actually meet the deletion criteria in question, and other admins who've reviewed it don't take the time to remove the CSD tagging when it's inappropriate. So, if it's "stale" in the queue, odds are multiple other admins have looked at it and not done anything, so my advice is to be a bit suspicious when dealing with the oldest things in any admin queue. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 18:46, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I must add my comment here, because I'm shocked that an admin would ask someone to refer to the tagger. The reason anyone gets made an admin is that they are capable of making their own correct decisions. The tagger was wrong, which is forgiveable, but for an admin to disclaim responsibility for deleting something that obviously shouldn't be deleted is not. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:06, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Jed Abbey
You G7ed this; please can you also close the AFD? GiantSnowman 11:48, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * the last time I tried that I got half the syntax wrong and had to be talked through fixing my mistakes. I'm hunting for that discussion in my archives now and when I find it, believe me, I will post a link to it, perhaps you will understand :)  – Athaenara  ✉  12:10, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Found it! User talk:Athaenara/Archive 12. – Athaenara  ✉  12:31, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * WP:AFDCLOSE should be helpful! I'd close myself but I !voted at the AFD and wouldn't want to be seen to be INVOLVED. GiantSnowman 13:03, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

. Done. Can't recall why I was watching your page, Athaenara, but it paid off. Star  Mississippi  13:25, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * That worked out well, thanks! – Athaenara  ✉  21:09, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Article deletion
why you want my articles to be deleted so bad, i've seen articles worser than mine and it's fine no one wanted to delete it Runningboy21 (talk) 08:53, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * What articles of yours did I delete? – Athaenara  ✉  10:38, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

User:KatarnLabs/Sandbox
Hi, I recently restored my sandbox page after it was deleted a few months ago. I regret restoring it and I'd rather that you just delete it again. Sorry for the inconvenience. KatarnLabs (talk) 20:23, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. – Athaenara  ✉  00:10, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Opiate for the Masses
Hi, I saw this just got a G4 speedy. Can I just confirm that the new version of the article was not substantially different from the deleted version? I struggle to remember, but I think there may have been some extra work done that would have lifted it out of G4 territory. Chubbles (talk) 21:08, 9 October 2021 (UTC)


 * It didn't become more notable after the AfD and deletion, and there was nothing in the post-AfD page version to suggest that it had. – Athaenara  ✉  21:11, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * After the questions here, and earlier at User talk:Jax 0677, I decided to undelete it so more admins may see and assess it. – Athaenara  ✉  00:48, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Restore Akinlolu Jekins
→  in re: 

I find it interesting you use the term 'repeatedly creating'. I created the page for the first time yesterday. Further more, may I know the exact reasons why this page was deleted be provided besides the fact it was created previously? Were the reference not notable enough? Did he meet the notability criteria, because he clearly does. Was the article badly written? if yes, point out exactly where, because it wasn't written with promotional intent. if there were adverbs or adjectives to sensationalize the article, please indicate. The article, just like any other on wikipedia is undergoing upgrades. Yesterday, 3 editors updated it. Kindly review, restore or provide the article for further update.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pshegs (talk • contribs) 10:16, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * You do know what "repeatedly" meant: as I posted on your talk page and on the other three ( User talk:Alayewiki, User talk:Princeansa, User talk:Newton256 ), yours was the most recent of four accounts used to create a page about this subject. – Athaenara  ✉  19:14, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

I noted this on the TP of (they aren’t pinged), they created this promotional non notable article today. Something feels off as I believe I have seen that article created and deleted before, I just can’t for the life of me remember where. Celestina007 (talk) 19:21, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Something feels off

User:Wikiuserkam
Hi! You recently flagged for COI and followed through with deleting some unambiguous adverts created by the user (e.g. Blue Girl (film)). It appears that a similar user,, has been recreating some of these articles (e.g. Blue Girl (2020 film)). Appears to be a sockpuppet/meatpuppet situation but unfortunately I don't really have time to collect data and follow through with an investigation. If you have a chance, can you look into these edits? Thanks! BOVINEBOY 2008 09:50, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Hello! This is WikibotAiUser. is clearly the account of either a spammer or someone who is manipulating the Wikipedia platform. I write about actors, indie films and short films. The article I wrote for the above mentioned film was a stub. I suggest that Wikiuserkam should be removed from Wikipedia and I will look into reporting that account - I'm still new to Wikipedia so I do not know how that works. The account should be shut down as it's blatant platform manipulation at the expense of the reputations of minor children that this user promotes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikibotAiUser (talk • contribs) 15:05, 19 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Also obvious: User:WikibotAiUser registered mere hours after User:Wikiuserkam's last edit, so one might reasonably wonder if they're the same person. – Athaenara  ✉  16:07, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Again, I write generally about actors and films. You can look at my editing history and see all of the other stubs that I have created and all of the articles that I have contributed to besides this one stub article. Additionally, if I were making an advert for the film, I would not cite the film's mixed reviews or use a 2/10 rating from Film Threat as a source. I will happily stop writing specifically about "Blue Girl" or related films if that's what you want. Again, I have written about many other films and actors. You should block WikiuserKam's IP address so that that account and any duplicate accounts will be blocked. Just an idea. Thank you. - WikibotAiUser — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikibotAiUser (talk • contribs) 17:47, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

I'm going to stop writing articles for Wikipedia until this WikiuserKam business is resolved so that I don't find myself getting further involved in this. Thank you. Best, WikibotAiUser — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikibotAiUser (talk • contribs) 18:27, 19 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment: I don't know what this is about, really, it seems to involve movies made about young people who are below the legal age of consent and confused about sex.  I'm inclined to suspect there is some predatory adult involvement, and I don't approve.  – Athaenara  ✉  14:45, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Deleted page by blocked user
→  in re: 

Hi Athaenara, I noticed that you deleted the Madhyanagar Upazila because it was created by a blocked user. I have no idea who the user is, but this article is definitely of value. It is one of the newest subdistricts of Bangladesh, only announced earlier this month. Please restore it if you can. UserNumber (talk) 17:57, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd say ask the editor who tagged it, . – Athaenara  ✉  19:07, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * See this ANI discussion for more about that. – Athaenara  ✉  19:24, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I will contact him soon. I would also like to add that there were numerous incidents regarding another disruptive user a couple of months ago (User:Slake000), and we managed to deal with it efficiently. Although he and his other sock puppet accounts are permanently blocked, some of his pages are still in existence like Sylheti dialects. Could you delete his articles too? UserNumber (talk) 10:57, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I won't wade into that, but you can ask Lugnuts about proper WP:CSD procedure and tagging. – Athaenara  ✉  18:40, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * , please read this thread. UserNumber (talk) 13:53, 11 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi UN. There were a wave a pages created by a user who was evading a block, with this being one of them. I tagged them all per G5. I have no idea what Madhyanagar Upazila is (a film? a person?), but if you think there was anything worth keeping, you can get a WP:REFUND on it. Or you can re-create the page if you have info on it that meets the required notabilty for the subject area. Thanks.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 14:27, 11 November 2021 (UTC)


 * , I see that makes perfect sense for you to do so. However, it was about an administrative subdivision of Bangladesh that was introduced a couple of months ago. I'll try and see if I can get it back appropriately. Also, I was involved in a similar issue with another disruptive user (User:Slake000), and we managed to deal with him efficiently. Although he and his other sock puppet accounts are permanently blocked, some of his pages are still in existence like Sylheti dialects. Could you delete his articles too? UserNumber (talk) 17:26, 22 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi. I'm not an admin, so I can't delete the pages, but you can tag them for deletion per WP:CSD (assuming they meet the conditions). Probably easiest and quickest just to re-create the page yourself in this case.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 17:37, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Martyrs Lane
→  in re: 

Hi, Athaenara. You've deleted Martyrs Lane (without even leaving me, the creator, a single notice) for being "Unambiguous advertising or promotion". I firmly believe you've made a mistake. The article was not promotional, and it was very similar to several other film articles that I've created in my ten years here on Wikipedia. The article was well-source, and I believe it should not be deleted. Therefore, I ask you to, please, restore the article. Thanks. Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 19:20, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. – Athaenara  ✉  00:09, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Kacamata!  Dimmi!!! 00:58, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

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