User talk:Atheist kerala

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Bare URLs
Please avoid bare URLs for reasons mentioned here: wp:bare URLs. See help:referencing for beginners. Also: wp:citation and wp:reliable sources. Personally, I prefer the wp:templates for most websites,,  for journals and magazines. Click on those links to go to the (rather convoluted) documentation. For cite web, the fields |url=, |title=, |author=, |date=, |publisher=, |access-date= are good to fill in. If it is a non-English website, you can add a translated title and language |language=fa, (Persian) |trans-title=... If you think the link may go dead, you can use https://archive.today to archive a copy for the future. Some sites are not supported. How to add an archive is discussed on cite web. Thank you for your contributions! Cheers Adakiko (talk) 11:23, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Irreligion in India
On your, I removed a space before a comma and capitalized "Islamic". I'd forget too, if I didn't have my spell checker turned on. English, for you... Adakiko (talk) 11:32, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Atheist kerala (talk)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jamitha Teacher (December 7)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by TheAafi was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


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─ The Aafī   (talk)|undefined  15:32, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

This is a friendly advice

 * Greetings @ Atheist kerala

Main article namespace has higher level requirements of references. Editing without fulfilling all those requirements is unlikely to be accepted and you will keep wasting time and energy.

Wikipedia certainly needs help in article expansion help from users like you. Same time I would like to suggest some strategic patience so you do not end up exhausting your options.

You are suggested and most welcome to keep focusing and updating Draft:Ex-Muslims of Kerala with references slowly but steadily. Other editors will take appropriate info with refs from there to this main article namespaces at the right time until you have enough experience on Wikipedia editing.


 * At least know more what not to do, to not getting blocked or banned.


 * One needs to use third party references as much as possible.
 * If you yourself are part of management/ office bearer/ employee of any organization or website simply do not edit in own/their favor.
 * By any chance do not try to have/ use more than one user account.
 * Do not enter into edit wars at any point of time.
 * Where in doubt about content engage in discussions through talk pages ** Let not get any content dispute personalized at any point of time.

I hope my suggestions would help you positively, you will stay and enjoy editing Wikipedia.

&#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 06:28, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Requesting some article expansion help
Greetings @ Atheist kerala,

Hello, This is User:Bookku again, By now you might have got to know a little about my Wikipedia wide interests. I find information and knowledge gaps create Drafts, try to recruit draft expanding editors and promote drafts and articles (my own and others) for further expansion.

Requesting your visit to following drafts pertaining to South Asia (& few others too)  and help expand the same if any of these interests you.


 * Draft:Irrational beliefs
 * Draft:Aurat (word)
 * Draft:Pawri Ho Rahi Hai
 * Draft:Muslim and Islamic Feminism in India
 * User:Bookku/Muslim women in India
 * Still to be initiated.
 * Draft:My Choice (2015) a March 2015  short film, featuring  Deepika Padukone
 * Draft:Sexual politics in south Asia
 * Draft:Urdu feminist literature

Thanks and warm regards

&#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 05:50, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

One more request=
Greetings again,

Can you help by covering this Tamil Nadu Ex Muslim 'Aneesh Jasy's arrest news in The news minute

Thanks

&#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 05:55, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

sure, might be it find a place in ex Muslims article

Atheist kerala (talk)

About the persecution section
@ Atheist kerala

It's okay to include persecution section in the article Ex-Muslims of Kerala. But you seem to have included blog references from freethoughtblogs. English Wikipedia traditions usually do not allow self published sources like blogs since they do not have inbuilt editorial counter check systems.

It would be preferable you look for some alternate sources instead of blog posts. May be you can try Malayalam language news sources with translation provided.

sure,but that content is only available in that site, will look for more sources

&#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 04:41, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Avoid temptations of reverting edits
Greetings @ Atheist kerala

Pl. avoid temptation of edit reverts among you and Keralafeminist, Both of you might think those being friendlier minor edit reverts but others will not miss their opportunity to block Ex Muslim supporting editors unwanted to them on a simple pretext. Just do not give chance to others.

&#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 09:24, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

ok Atheist kerala (talk)

Stop Vandalism
Don't revert edits without clear evidences. Sabeelul hidaya (talk) 19:08, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

use talk page, you cannot keep a tag without clear points. the tag you placed is without evidence, and stop calling others vandals, or i may have to ping admins.

Some important points

 * 1) Most important your point is right or wrong, as earlier said just do not revert in a content dispute. By mistake some one makes a revert third time in a single day simply gets blocked. Revert block is biggest trap on WP which helps opponent in content disputes, don't have revert temptation even by mistake.
 * 2) Next very important point is do not personalize. Don't refer some one as 'Muslim editor' or some thing. What proof are there some one is of any specific background or not. As much as possible one needs to retain good faith. One ends up spending lot of time in resolving personalized disputes and usually loosing more than  gaining more. Simply remove/avoid personalizing comments.
 * 3) In content dispute resolution Third opinion, Dispute resolution noticeboard and Request for comment are the steps available. What is decided at Request for comment is usually considered final. Best thing don't get in disputes at least till you have studied a dozen dispute resolutions of others otherwise you end up exhausted like nothing. Save your energies we have lot more to do at Wikipedia.

I have few other articles to suggest but I will let you know that in separate section.

Happy editing

&#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 04:43, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Bookku thanks for the guidance, i will keep these points in mind Atheist kerala (talk)

Persecution section and article

 * Usually in encyclopedic articles we are supposed to prefer paragraph writing over list and we do have some good sources to do paragraph writing for persecution section and I/ we will do it some time after second week of Feb.


 * The 'List' article Persecution and attacks against Ex-Muslims in Kerala is under deletion discussion and it's narrow focus is unlikely to help. So I have suggested renaming to Persecution and attacks against Ex-Muslims in South Asia Once the deletion discussion is over you can focus on expanding the List article for entire South Asia, this is my request to you and User:Keralafeminist.


 * The last but not least is we are not supposed to copy paste any content from other website or news portal as is but supposed to write in our own words other wise content is removed as copyright violation and repeat copyright violation can lead to blocking accounts.
 * Simplest way I do is I take content to be rewritten on my personal computer, use google dictionary by saying 'Define xyz' it gives synonyms for words first try to use alternate verb if not possible then change other words.

Wish you happy editing

&#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 05:09, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Jamitha Teacher
Hello, Atheist kerala. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Jamitha Teacher, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 16:02, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Jamitha Teacher


Hello, Atheist kerala. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Jamitha Teacher".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 17:01, 7 June 2022 (UTC)