User talk:Athinaios/Archive 1, October-December 2007

Special:DoubleRedirects
Hi, please dp not revert the bot like that. The bot processes Special:DoubleRedirects. By reverting you are putting entries back on the Special:DoubleRedirects list. Inter namespace redirects are frowned upon and often deleted. I recommend tagging those article->category redirects for speedy deletion. I can do this for you if you like. -- Cat chi? 21:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, White Cat (mine is yellow). Thanks for the advice. Yes, I guess it might be better to delete them. Would there be any way of dealing with them that makes sure that the most common mistypes or misnomers (based on my experience involved with the collective of institutions in question) do lead to the correct category? athinaios 21:38, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * You could use a softredirect which would not list the pages under the double redirect special page or you could create a "List of Foreign Archaeological Schools in Athens" list-article. -- Cat chi? 22:09, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I thought the soft redirects were disabled right now? athinaios 22:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I followed your advice and created a list. It seems to make a lot more sense now. Thanks! athinaios 23:07, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Help with userpage
Should anyone know how to make the "more languages" box on my userpage be the same size and alignment as all the other boxes above and below it, please let me know. Thanks. athinaios 11:59, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Schliemann
Hi, It's normal to go ahead and make that sort of change yourself, at least that's what I usually do. Sometimes I will check the edit history or talk page to make sure that what I am doing has not been done and undone before. --5telios 12:34, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Wartberg near kirchberg.JPG
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 * problem solved athinaios 00:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Glauberg-calendar.JPG
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 * Problem solved (I think). athinaios 15:54, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Image source problem with Image:Glauberg mound1.JPG
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 * Problem solved (I think). athinaios 15:54, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Altendorf (megalithic tomb), was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 23:40, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Footnotes
Hello, thank you for your message. OK, I'm sorry about the footnotes, I didn't realize there were two ways of doing it. Every featured article I've read have the footnotes the Chicago way, so I always thought it was the right way to do it. I apologize and won't do it again; at least you taught me something today. Please go on writing articles on German archaeology, I love to read them. Evcharisto, schönen Tag noch, and huh-- slán ? (OK, pitiful ;) Rosenknospe 10:36, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Waldgirmes
It was mostly typos, not what you'd be concentrating on when translating. It was very interesting but unfortunately missed DYK because of the inline citation fetish. I wondered whether it might be worth mentioning that Dio wasn't contemporary as he is being used to refute Mommsen. Andplus 11:02, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * Solved. My mistake. athinaios 21:16, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * Solved. An oversight. athinaios 21:54, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * Solved. athinaios 14:11, 22 October

Did you know
Thanks. It's nice to get an award. Um, who does it come from? athinaios 13:03, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Heuneburg
You're very welcome. Sorry about "jewellery". That's a spelling that I wasn't aware of. Thank you for letting me know about it. Cheers. –BozoTheScary 02:24, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Pitsa
No, I'm afraid they are new to me. I come to Faiyum backwards from Late Antique & Early Medieval art rather than forwards from classical, as it were. Grove might be a starting point. Johnbod 15:10, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


 * added what i can on the Tondo. Johnbod 15:30, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Glad to - I'd seen references to them but knew nothing. Johnbod 00:11, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Fayum mummy portraits
No problem re: the copyedit pass on the article. Going forward my plan is to find additional English references to add and to perhaps expand a few of the sub-sections.

I gather that while Ancient Egypt isn't necessarily your professional focus, I would like to extend the offer of joining the informal group of writers/editors over at WikiPortal Ancient Egypt.

I don't know if you "collect" such things or not but you definitely deserve the following:

Cheers! Captmondo 18:53, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * You're welcome re: barnstar. It's only the second I've ever given out myself, the last to someone who worked very diligently on a bringing an article I had co-written up to FA status. Cheers! Captmondo 00:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Added a bit to the Greek article. I think as paintings, whatever the political etc term, the Fayum ones have to be described as Graeco-Roman rather than Roman. We don't have much evidence, but I suspect most Roman painting was done by Greeks, or those trained by them. Johnbod 02:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

possibly unfree image
I was hoping that you might be able to help. Image:ShroudCaywCanals.jpg is clearly a screen capture from Google Earth. It seems that that is not fair use since they license the imagery and it is not a representative image like artwork from a video game. I don't want to nominate it for deletion without having a clue about the policy. –BozoTheScary 23:03, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll look into it some more if I have time. Plato would have dismissed the Wikipedia as too anarchic. Socrates would have been an inclusionist. Diogenes would have trolled the talk pages. –BozoTheScary 01:46, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Copyright
Hi White Cat. As you cann see at the bottom of my usepage, I have been approached about an image suspected to be non-free. In fact, it is an image clearly lifted from Google Earth. I feel it can't be used, but I am only a humble editor and so I'm not sure what to do now. Can you tell me where to report the suspected transgression or what else to do? Thanks. athinaios 00:01, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Google earth images are not free and have no business being here unless being used on the article on Google earth. The uploader can seek a similar free image from NASA archives. Google earth images can be speedy deleted by using Db-copyvio -- Cat chi? 06:30, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

DYK

 * Yours is a very good article on Pitsa panels. --Wetman 16:14, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

GA nomination for Fayum mummy portraits‎?
Another editor has endorsed nominating Fayum mummy portraits‎ for Good Article status. I agree with that sentiment. You did the majority of the work on the revamped article -- interested in taking it through the GA process? Captmondo 12:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Was just stopping by to congratulate you on the nice work and saw this thread. I agree that it's GA-worthy. Dppowell 16:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

DYK November 2

 * I think the Commons one is fine - you could stick it at the bottom right. Not sure which I'd choose if I had to pick one, but I don't. You take very good photos!  Johnbod 09:26, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:GER/MZ
Thank you for your contributions to WP:GER/MZ. Hope to find support from you regarding historical Mainz articles -- Symposiarch 10:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Greek temples
Hello. About your comment at WP:DYK on the hook for Greek temple, where you said "I removed the relevant reference from the article, as it was too long anyway", a followup that doesn't belong on the DYK page itself:

If your article becomes too large, instead of trimming content, you can prepare it either for exporting some sections to separate articles, or splitting it entirely and making it a small shell linking to the splits.

For instance, you could export the "Summary of development" section to a separate, say, History of Greek temples (where you could develop at length more subsections such as "Greek temples during the Middle Ages" and "Greek temples during the modern era", including the content about modern use as Pagan or Christian worship places) – and in the original article, replace the exported section with a summary paragraph headed with  – that sort of things.

(Of course, child article derived from a split aren't eligible for DYK, but that's another matter.)

Regards, &mdash; Komusou talk @ 06:46, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Greek temple, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 09:10, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Having translated often myself, I know how much effort and time that took. You deserve it. - Oreo Priest  15:55, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Berlin map
Hi athinaios! Your new dual map is much appreciated. By the way, this has been also the solution in earlier times. One suggestion though: Could you create a dual map including 2 maps while maintaining the same size each? Right now the EU map appears too small. This would sort out the problem forever. all the best Lear 21 (talk) 17:05, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Did you ever voted and commented here? :, ,  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.179.6.74 (talk) 00:43, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Red-figure pottery
Superb work, thank you. Twospoonfuls (talk) 11:47, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Woah, five articles in one "Did You Know...?", congratulations. gren グレン 06:11, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK

 * (For the record: The same "DYK" also referred to Belly Amphora by the Andokides Painter (Munich 2301). athinaios 13:39, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Golden hats
Oh, I think so - you could add Project:Fashion for good measure Johnbod (talk) 13:02, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Avanton
Hi, I came to the article Cone d'Avanton via Schifferstadt, I'm updating infoboxes for German towns right now. Fascinating pieces of art, these golden hats! One remark: I think the title should be changed, since right now it's neither correct French (that would be "Cône") nor correct English. I don't know how it's called in scientific literature, but I suppose it should be something like "Golden hat of Avanton" or "Golden cone of Avanton". Markussep Talk 17:04, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

RE: User page:
Yes I completely understand, and I myself have lived in Germany when I was in the Military at Ramstein. I know that traditionally the Red-White-black can be seen as "NPD" like and "Über alles" can be seen as Nationalist. However Having lived in Germany and come from the U.S. and especially California. California being a land COMPETLEY OVERUN BY LATINISM (from Latin America). People only know Germany from what they see in school textbooks, and think ALL Germans fly the Swastika or "Hakenkreuz" all over the place. One thing to note is German has taken the way side in cultural activity here in California and few High schools offer German as a language. There are all sorts of Organizations for Latinos, African decent people, Asians, and Pacific islanders, but NOT Germans. As far as travel is concerned, people would rather go to London, Paris, or even Rome. Even though Germany and its cities are nicer than the other European lands COMBINED. With that said I am promoting German history, Culture, the land, and Ideals. I also would like to see some German Cultural revival not only here, but back in Germany itself. So in other words I end up having to be über German prideful in order to scratch the surface at balancing the Germanic Vs. romantic culture scale. I wish I could start a German cultural society around here and promote the good of Germany, but here in California if you show strong appreciation of German culture or language you must be a RACIST. So with that I am trying to find a way to get back to Germany and be BOTH German and American national (IE. Hold both Passports). So I can be proud of my German Heritage, and be around Germans again. Because Germans are the BEST people I have met, and they do not deserve the world wide Anti-German attitude. If you think there should be a different way to approach this and meet my goal that will not be seen as "Offensive" let me know. Danke, Mike MKLPTR (talk) 20:11, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Apology
I apologize for that edit summary. I was not referring to you when I wrote "persistent date warrior." My intention was to revert this edit made by a user who has been warned and blocked repeatedly over this sort of thing. My perusal of the history led me to believe that the article had been stable in BCE era style before that edit, and although an admin had apparently hit the "rollback" key on him, some edits fell through the cracks because they could not be undone. Now that I look more closely, I see that an admin already did revert his change which was subsequently reverted back by you.

Again, I apologize profoundly for my mistake. --Steven J. Anderson (talk) 14:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK
We weren't sure which one you were nominating, but all were good work worthy of DYK, so we decided to credit you for all four. --Adam Cuerden talk 09:39, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

An award
Hmmm, one could do a lot of things with that hat!--Damac (talk) 14:44, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for all your editing, and many thanks for the award, Rosenknospe. I will wear it with pride. And it made me laugh. Damac, I know where you live.... athinaios 14:59, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Mold cape
Dear Mr Athinaios (or perhaps one should say "Yassou" as I see you are in the land of overly-thick yoghurt, atonal plucking, scraping and caterwauling, and man-boy love). Back from church and now to attend to my correspondence. I am sure the parson thought he was seeing to my spiritual wellbeing, but I also took the precaution of attending to the physical, in the form of a plump cushion, my trusty hipflask (given to me by Eddie, don’t you know, before that awful Simpson woman came along and quite ruined all my plans) and the latest penny dreadful by that woman who could do with a visit to the hairdressing salon. I must recommend Geraldo to her next time I see her at Cowdray.

I had a job stopping dear Catherine's dreadful grandson from carving his initials into the Georgian family box pew. A dreadfully willful child, but nothing that a few smart thwacks with the hymn book couldn't sort out. Quite how any live offspring managed to issue from Catherine's Sahara of a womb is beyond me, but she was clearly intent on continuing her line, to the detriment of the general gene pool. God help us all.

Now, to matters in hand. You refer to my man or men. Would that I had more than one (wistfully remembers back to her heydey....) That Clara Bow rumour was based on me, you know. Of course, it was nothing as vulgar as a team of American football players. Dear me, no. Naturally, it was the Oxford and Cambridge Boat Race crews that I entertained, plus Isis and Goldie and various coaches. Oh, and the man who greased the runners was in there too somewhere, I seem to recall. Ah, what a time we had. Such high-jinks.

I really have no general interest in Bronze Age golden trinkets, Mr Athinaios. I merely created the article on the Mold cape as I am in possession of the original, which was given to me by Mr Balenciaga and on which he based my coming-out ball stole. Those so-called experts at the British Museum have yet to realise that their version has been made out of chocolate coin wrappers and a few of those golden yellow confectionaries that one finds in the Quality Street tins that the lower orders have knocking around in the kitchens at the festive season. If you would like to come and visit the cape, I am sure you will find me most accommodating. Are you young and good-looking? It always helps.

Princess Venetia di Cannoli (talk) 09:09, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Athens
I reverted TedRozenBalls's vandalism, but it reverted the wrong edit. sorry. Smilesfozwood (talk) 15:39, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Venus of Brassempouy
Thank you for your recent work on Venus of Brassempouy. It was an excellent addition. Madman (talk) 00:20, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I was just looking at your work on Venus figurines and I wanted to make a couple suggestions:
 * Please include references. You wrote an entire section on Steatopygia without any references.
 * It is not necessary to "pipe" links if all you are just changing the first letter to lower case. In other words Steatopygia and steatopygia will both link the reader to the same article.
 * Use the preview feature to reduce the number of edits, which makes the history easier to read.
 * Thanks again, Madman (talk) 02:32, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi again. Yes, I saw, after I posted, that you had translated much of that from the French, which accounts for the lack of references.  In any case, keep up the good work.  I was surprised to find these articles so sketchy.  Madman (talk) 02:54, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK

 * Right. Well, is it better now? Biruitorul (talk) 23:40, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed - readers can find out more, for instance, by merely clicking the links. And yes, I agree all sorts of permutations are possible, but the key with infoboxes is to balance conciseness with accuracy, which I think the present version does fairly well. Biruitorul (talk) 00:29, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Greek Vases etc

 * Hi. I'dlike to thank you for the useful edits you've made, especially by adding references to the Red-figure pottery article. Are you a new user? There's a lot of work left to be done regarding Greek pottery (and ancient Greece in general, so I'd invite you to register as an edito and join those of us who arte trying to do a bit of work in that regard. athinaios (talk) 15:42, 15 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for your comment, but I can only contribute sporadically. Maybe you want to review my changes to the Dreiphasenbrand-article in the german wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreiphasenbrand. I'm not perfectly sure, whether it is really a good idea to make this a seperate article (since clay preparation and firing can hardly get seperated), but the article existed already, so I thought it may make sense to rework it to improve correctness. -- 89.247.116.23 (talk) 18:16, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Red figure pots
Glad to be of service. Unfortunately I don't have any German, so I couldn't recommend any of their articles. I would point out, though, that painters of the South Italian fabrics are a little under-represented. I hope to write something on the Underworld Painter myself, other than that the Apulians would beneft from your attention I think. As for adding to the Black figure article, absolutely - please do. I've been following your translation work, and it's great to see the development of this subject come to life. Twospoonfuls (talk) 13:32, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Venus figurines, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 23:41, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

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