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1993 - 2000 Sports Network Cup retroactive voting
Hello Athletic Historian, You've created a number of articles, including: In all these articles you've stated trophy winner with the following statement:
 * 2000 Sports Network Cup
 * 1999 Sports Network Cup
 * 1998 Sports Network Cup
 * 1997 Sports Network Cup
 * 1996 Sports Network Cup
 * 1995 Sports Network Cup
 * 1994 Sports Network Cup
 * 1993 Sports Network Cup

"The Sports Network Cup traveling trophy was first awarded in 2001; however, the Sport Networks Mid-Major Championship teams were honored retroactively on the trophy as recipients dating back to 1993"

Could you please point me to where you've obtained that information? I am unable to locate that info anywhere.

Thanks!

-- C yb er XR ef talk 07:20, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of 1981 Aloha Bowl


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Nomination of 1981 Aloha Bowl for deletion
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Drake–Iowa rivalry moved to draftspace
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Drake–San Diego football rivalry moved to draftspace
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Drake–Iowa rivalry (November 11)
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Dan arndt (talk) 02:59, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Dayton–Drake football rivalry


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Drake–Valparaiso rivalry moved to draftspace
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NRIVARLY
Please see WP:NRIVALRY. Just because a rivalry between two schools exist does not mean that it automatically qualifies for an article. The article must still pass the General Notability Guideline and receive significant coverage from independent and reliable sources (which links to schedules from Drake's athletics website, etc. very much are not). Additionally, not every sporting matchup between the schools should be included because many of these matchups simply are not notable and Wikipedia is not a collections of indiscriminate game results and statistics. Best, GPL93 (talk) 14:40, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

These are known rivals if you follow college sports:

Iowa Big Four - Drake vs. Iowa, Drake vs. Iowa State, Drake vs. Northern Iowa, Iowa vs. Iowa State, Iowa vs. Northern Iowa, Iowa State vs. Northern Iowa.

Pioneer Football League - Drake vs. Butler, Drake vs. Dayton, Drake vs. San Diego, Dayton vs. San Diego, Valparaiso vs. Butler

Missouri Valley - Drake vs. Northern Iowa, Bradley vs. Drake, Indiana State vs. Evansville, Valparaiso vs. Evansville, Indiana State vs. Valparaiso, Illinois State vs. Bradley, Southern Illinois vs. Missouri State

Old school Missouri Valley - Creighton vs. Wichita State, Drake vs. Creighton, Wichita State vs. Bradley, Bradley vs. Creighton.

The Drake vs. Valparaiso is an emerging rivalry now that they play in Pioneer Football League and Missouri Valley.

There is tons of hard copy info on these games. I am not sure where you are located, but I encourage you to attend one if you have the opportunity. I am sure you would be impressed with the atmosphere.
 * I do follow college sports, but there's a very large difference between "known" and meeting Wikipedia's notability standards and "hard copy info" and significant coverage by Wikipedia:Independent Reliable Sources~. GPL93 (talk)

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Potato Bowl USA moved to draftspace
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Drake–San Diego football rivalry (December 2)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Drake–Iowa State rivalry (December 13)
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S0091 (talk) 15:04, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Drake–Northern Iowa rivalry


The article Drake–Northern Iowa rivalry has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Fails WP:NRIVARLY. The article as it currently is constructed is an indiscriminate collection of scores across multiple sports. Almost all sourcing is primary, coming mostly from the media guides of Drake or Northern Iowa sports teams or game reports/box scores from school website. There isn't much mention of an actual 'rivarly' in independent, reliable sources."

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Nomination of Butler–Drake football rivalry for deletion
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