User talk:AtlantaBelle

Spam in Alcatraz media
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The article Alcatraz media has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done because the article, which appeared to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the notability of the subject may be deleted at any time. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources.

Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and for specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for musicians, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. NawlinWiki (talk) 14:56, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

I submitted my page originally on 11/17 and it was deleted for being blatant advertising or for not being noteworthy. So, today (11/21) I recreated the page, this time as a stub. I took out virtually all the information I initially submitted, including only a brief company description, and now it was deleted for not explaining why it should be considered noteworthy.

I am confused. Can you please tell me what I should do differently in order for my page not to be deleted in the future? I was under the impression that for companies, there should not be any advertising or promoting and the tone of the page should be neutral. That is what I thought I was doing in creating this page.

This company has 1 million visitors to their site and 100,000 phone calls in the spring and summer months alone. That leads me to believe that information on the organization is something that would be considered valuable to the public.

Alcatraz Media’s major competitors all have Wikipedia pages. These include:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_Line_Worldwide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbitz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travelocity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priceline.com

If the submission needs to be edited, I am more than happy to do so, but I will need more information and clarification on what types of changes are needed.

Thanks,

AtlantaBelle (talk) 15:11, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


 * You need to find and cite reliable independent sources, such as news articles, that recognize your company as notable per the standards of WP:CORP. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:04, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your response, NawlinWiki. Are press releases considered reliable sources? Also, I haven't been able to write to you on your talk page. Am I missing something? :)

AtlantaBelle (talk) 14:36, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Generally speaking, notability is established by substantial coverage in reliable secondary sources. A press release is a primary source, and so it isn't considered reliable. Examples of secondary sources include newspapers, books, etc. &mdash; Werdna  &bull;  talk  05:57, 16 December 2008 (UTC)