User talk:Atsizat

May 2020
Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I noticed that in this edit to Göle, you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 22:50, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Climate.data.org is bull****. That is why. Atsizat (talk) 22:57, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Göle, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 23:39, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

I am turkish and a foreign member put this stupid source on wikipedia.

Climate.data.org is an unofficial and inaccurate source.

Go check turkish state meteorological service during winter. See how Göle is colder than Ardahan.

Plus, I've been to both places.

So please dont put this stupid source.

Climate.data.org is an inaccurate source and wikipedia is being inaccurate accepting these unofficial stupid sources.

If you dont accept my comment, then remove everything and make climate part just EMPTY but dont put that stupid source back on wikipedia. Atsizat (talk) 23:44, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi there I have dealt with this weather issue in the past as well, and since you are so determined to assure us that climate data is wrong, I checked at the climate data org, and looked at what they had to say on their website. There they say that they were working with thousand of weather stations together and it seems rather correct. But at least in places that I checked and I know, they too were pretty wrong. And not only by one or two degrees. Rather 10 degrees Celsius. I'd encourage you to fill out the edit summary, and watch you language. How you answer, it is difficult any�one will take you serious. Look up there how you answer materialscientist. This is not nice.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 00:13, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Not really.

Climate.data.org is based on estimstions.

Look at Nikkaluokta Sweden from climate.data.org

Funny you should say that Atsizat (talk) 06:40, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Climate.data.org is an unofficial website and inaccurate. So remove it.

Look at Nikkaluokta, Sweden from climate.data.org Atsizat (talk) 06:41, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

The source about the climate averages of Cizre was changed. It is not from ClimateData anymore. Your reasons to revert my editions have no any explanation. Give an explanation or simply STOP! Scheridon (talk) 13:14, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Climate.data.org averaves are also incorrect.

Cizre has a mean temp of 34.2°C in the hottest month (official).

https://www.mgm.gov.tr/iklim/iklim-siniflandirmalari.aspx?m=CIZRE

It is the website of turkish state Meroeorlogical service. Atsizat (talk) 04:18, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

And for Göle, climate.data.org averages are a lot more off.

Nikaluokta, Sweden has a 6°C warmer average low in coldest month according to wikipedia.

Climate.data.org is an inaccurate website. Why use this stupid website on wikipedia?

Leave places that dont have long term official averages available Alone on wikipedia. Atsizat (talk) 04:21, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

According to climate.data.org I meant above. Not wikipedia. My mistake.

You got me?

Nikaluokta, Sweden has a 6°C warmer average low in coldest month according to climate.data.org.

Atsizat (talk) 04:23, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

According to climate.data.org. Atsizat (talk) 04:24, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

A Foreigner on a foreign weather forum cannot stop editing turkish climates with unofficial weather websites. And I remove them. Atsizat (talk) 04:27, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Explain your edits
Dear Atsizat, could you please fill out edit summaries and explain your removals as it is encouraged by Wikipedia at WP:FIES? Please also read the passages further down. Also make your concerns known to the other editors of Wikipedia on the article talk page of the article you remove info as per WP:TALK. This means not express your personal views about the weather but discuss with arguments supported by references or facts that can easily be corroborated. There is a weather discussion going on in the Cizre article since weeks. Thank you.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 16:19, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Cizre has a mean temp of 34.2°C in the hottest month and a mean temp of 6.8°C in the hottest month.

It is written in the website of turkish state met office so these are official.

https://www.mgm.gov.tr/iklim/iklim-siniflandirmalari.aspx?m=CIZRE Atsizat (talk) 19:31, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

I meant in the coldest month above for 6.8°C

That is not a personal opinion. Atsizat (talk) 19:32, 27 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Nice to see this, thank you. Might be good to mention similar info on the talk pages of the articles, where you remove info. Then just write "see talk page" in the edit summary.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 20:01, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

June 2020
Hello, I'm Serols. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —specifically this edit to Cizre—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thanks. Serols (talk) 14:33, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Göle. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism can result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Serols (talk) 14:35, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

https://www.mgm.gov.tr/iklim/iklim-siniflandirmalari.aspx?m=CIZRE

Cizre has a mean temp of 6.8°C in coldest month and a mean temp of 34.2°C in hottest month.

Thata the website of turkish met office so I want official values to remain as climate.data.org is an inaccurate, unoffical website. Atsizat (talk) 14:36, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Climate.data.org is an inaccurate website so I ask those unofficial, inaccurate values to be removed from wikipedia Atsizat (talk) 14:37, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

3RR
Your recent editing history at Cizre and Göle shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you do not violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:23, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Talk page participation
Please state your case in one or other of Talk:Cizre and Talk:Göle. Argue rationally, without throwing insults around. If you believe that a source cited by others is unreliable, give your reasons for your belief. (Calling the website "stupid", or similar, will be unpersuasive.)

Before you start to write, some advice. You write above: "I am turkish", "I've been to both [Göle and Ardahan]", and disparagingly about contributions by "A Foreigner on a foreign weather forum". We're not interested in personal opinions or the nationality or domicile of contributors to Wikipedia. If you think that we should be, you're at the wrong website. -- Hoary (talk) 00:20, 14 June 2020 (UTC)


 * If you follow official measurements of Turkish State Meteorological Service, you will know Göle is colder than Ardahan, therefore climate.data.org is inaccurate.


 * Check Nikaluokta, Sweden on climate.data.org, climate.data.org shows a 6°C warmer average low in coldest month than its official data.


 * Long term official averages for Göle is not available but according the measurements of Turkish State Meroeorlogical Service, Göle is always colder than Ardahan in all 12 months of the year.


 * As for Cizre, I already gave link of Turkish State Meroeorlogical Service on the talk page which shows a hottest month mean temp of 34.2°C and a coldest month mean temp of 6.8°C.


 * Climate.data.org is inaccurate and I proved with Nikakkluokta. Climate.sata.org shows 6°C warmer.


 * This member is a foreign troll and he cannot stop putting 3rd party, unofficial weather websites for turkish places on wiki. Atsizat (talk) 10:31, 14 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Please don't refer to another Wikipedia editor as "a foreign troll" — that personal attack is completely unacceptable. Note that ay further personal attacks will see you sanctioned without further warning. El_C 17:29, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

So you ignored the link of turkish state meteorological service which shows a mean temp 34.2°C in hottest month for cizre? Atsizat (talk) 18:15, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

And also

Göle is colder than Ardahan in all 12 months of year according to official measuremets of turkish state meteorological service. Atsizat (talk) 18:20, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Blocked
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for edit warring, as you did at Göle. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Woody (talk) 15:24, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Indefinite partial block from Cizre and Göle
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing certain areas of the encyclopedia for chronic edit warring continuing immediately after latest block. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. El_C 14:12, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

I put the website of Turkish State Meroeorlogical Service for Cizre, which shows a mean temp of 34.2°C in the hottest month. And you ingnored the official source that I put here.

And Göle is colder than Ardahan in all 12 months of year according to official measurements of turkish met office.

Climate.data org is an unoffifial, 3rd party weather website.

And Look at Nikaluokta, Sweden on climate.data.org website. It has a 6°C warmer average low in coldest month than its official data according to climate.data.org website. Look at it and see how inaccurate climate.data.org website can be.

Atsizat (talk) 11:19, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You are persistently refusing to make use of the article talk pages (both Göle and Cizre have a weather discussion since April you refused to get involved) or user talk pages and persistent edit war. You are not helping Wikipedia with your refusal to co-operate with other editors.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 17:16, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Climate.data.org is an unofficial 3rd party weather website. I dont know why you insist on taking back to wiki. Atsizat (talk) 20:49, 18 June 2020 (UTC)