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Wikipedia and copyright
Hello ASStoroid, and welcome to Wikipedia. Your additions to Government College University (Lahore) have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.


 * You can only copy/translate a small amount of a source, and you must mark what you take as a direct quotation with double quotation marks (") and cite the source using an inline citation. You can read about this at Non-free content in the sections on "text". See also Help:Referencing for beginners, for how to cite sources here.
 * Aside from limited quotation, you must put all information in your own words and structure, in proper paraphrase. Following the source's words too closely can create copyright problems, so it is not permitted here; see Close paraphrasing. (There is a college-level introduction to paraphrase, with examples, hosted by the Online Writing Lab of Purdue.) Even when using your own words, you are still, however, asked to cite your sources to verify the information and to demonstrate that the content is not original research.
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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:39, 12 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi!Thank you for your feedback regarding Government College University (Lahore). The thing is that I am a student at the said university. The portion about CASP I added is in-fact, a real department in the university. Proof of its existence doesn't exist on the college website as I'm writing this response (guess they forgot to update the website). But it's reference/citation/proof of existence (whatever you may want to call it) is present in the form of a printed brochure. To quote the person above me, "...I didn't realize that it is more complex of an issue than that. I understand that I need to make more of an effort to paraphrase the content...".Anyways, the thing is that this department is state of the art research center, one of its kind in Lahore, so I think it should be present on the university page. How do you suggest I add it there? Any/All help will be extremely helpful ! SIDE NOTE: I'm not that comfortable with the Source Editor here, I'd really appreciate it if we talk via email, if that's okay with you? -- ASStoroid ; (mail) Atta Ullah 22:52, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * What you need to do is completely re-write the content using your own words. Don't include any wording from the source material. One thing I find that works for me is to read over the source material and then pretend I am verbally describing the topic to a friend in my own words. Stuff should also be presented in a different order where possible. Summarize rather than paraphrase. This will typically result in your version being much shorter than the source document. There's some reading material on this topic at Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing and/or have a look at the material at Purdue or study this module aimed at WikiEd students. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:09, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks!! I just have two more followup questions: <1> Can any other user view my sandbox? What I have in mind id that I'll summarize and create a draft of it in my sandbox, then you, or any other user, can check it. <2> As I stated above, there exists a rather explanatory brochure/pamphlet of the said department in physical form. How can I cite references to a physical copy? -ASStoroid (talk) 11:52, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Everyone can view your sandbox, and the same rules apply there regarding copyright. See if there's a copy of the pamphlet online and use that as your reference. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:12, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for your help. 🙏 Atta Ullah 10:19, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Copyright material - Farhang e Asifiya
Just to let you know, I also found and removed copyright material in the article Farhang e Asifiya. — Ninja Diannaa (Talk) 18:08, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help. I'm taking some paraphrasing courses and I'll rewrite that section shortly (in my own words). Atta Ullah 10:14, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

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"Good articles" and article protection
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 * Hi! Is this regarding the good article tag on Lahore article? And also who can protect articles? AttaEditsWiki (talk) 16:31, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Request to add pictures to articles.
Hi, I see that you're a Pakistani Wikipedian, so you'll be familiar with Hania Amir & Danish Taimoor. I've uploaded their images to Wikimedia Commons (refer here). I can't add their pictures to their articles as they are semi-protected. I was hoping if you'd add them there. 📷 PicturesUploader (talk) 04:40, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

IP address AutoBlocked.
AttaEditsWiki (talk) 11:02, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Now blocked directly. Given the shared IP address and overlap in editing, there's clearly something fishy going on here. --Yamla (talk) 12:10, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi everyone. First of all, I'd like to make myself clear: I DON'T HAVE ANY CONNECTION WITH PicturesUploader .Prior to making my account, I made myself familiar with Wikipedia's Policies and try my best to keep up with it. I know that Sock Puppetry isn't allowed here in any case whatsoever. I'm the only person in this household editing Wikipedia (I confirmed with everyone). After talking about the issue with my CS friend, he told me that sometimes different devices on same public network might have same Public IP addresses . This might be the case as I use Punjab Free WiFi Hotspot at my home (I have been using it for at least 7 months now.) In a nutshell, it is a free public WiFi hotspot based in Lahore. Before requesting for an unblock, I'd like to reassure that you can check my contributions; I've never done anything with malicious intent and never have I gotten into any serious trouble before. I'd also like to add that my IP address during this request will be different as I'm posting this via my university's computer. Once I get home, I'll post an unblock request. Hopefully Yamla & Huon will read this. AttaEditsWiki (talk) 07:48, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * You say you "don't have any connection". This is blatantly false. See for example, this edit and this edit. The two of you have no connection at all, yet just happen to find each other and just happen to use the exact same IP address? Come on, don't treat us like idiots. --Yamla (talk) 11:23, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Please, I'm not treating anyone like an idiot.😌 In what way would you prefer that I prove that I have no link to the account? AttaEditsWiki (talk) 11:32, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * We have (according to their userboxes) some 270 editors interested in Pakistan, 250 who speak Urdu as a native language, and 300 members of WikiProject Pakistan. Out of this rather large sample, PictureUploader contacted only you, and you also happen to be the only one who runs into the autoblock. I'll leave it to you to calculate the chances of such a coincidence. I'm with Yamla. Huon (talk) 17:50, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Please! I do not know that user! I can't even confirm if that person even is/was a member of WikiProject Pakistan (the username isn't present on the Members list.). Even if he/she is, PictureUploader reached out to me ! Does that make me a sock puppeteer ? Please, do try to give the benefit of doubt and think about that there is 1 out of 300 (0.3%) chance of PictureUploader contacting me; maybe I'm that unlucky one out the 300 people. And also, where is PictureUploader <> when all of this is happening? Maybe that person doesn't care for their account? Why I'm the only one struggling to get my account unblocked? Again, please do try to give benefit of doubt.  AttaEditsWiki (talk) 20:24, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Stop pinging me. Given that you've used the exact same IP address and are unwilling to account for this, nobody's going to unblock you. There's not a 1 in 300 chance of this, there's a one in four billion chance of this (based on IPv4). Add to that, your multiple violations of copyright, similar to that of PicturesUploader, and there are no grounds for unblocking. Don't ping me again, but you are free to request another admin review your block. Note that PicturesUploader claims to be "Adeel Ahmed", in case that helps you at all. You'll need to specifically address your shared IP address and you'll need to address your multiple violations of copyright, as PicturesUploader also did. --Yamla (talk) 10:13, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * If you and PicturesUploader are one and the same, there may be good reasons for you to limit yourself to contesting the block from one account only. And while the statistics are somewhat better than Yamla's numbers suggest, you aren't blocked because you happen to be the one WikiProject member contacted by a new editor. You happen to be the one WikiProject member contacted by that account and the one who shares an IP address. There are plenty of IP addresses to go around; it's highly unlikely that any WikiProject members share an IP address with a new editor. That the one who gets contacted is also the one who shares an IP address, entirely by coincidence, is... unlikely beyond belief. The shared interests and shared copyright issues are the cherry on the top. Huon (talk) 19:15, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

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To the reviewing admin, I do not find the above explanations about WP:SOCK compelling. If you do, you are free to lift the block and I will not object. --Yamla (talk) 13:21, 22 March 2019 (UTC)