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I appriecate the info but there was no need to revert the whole page. Novadestin (talk) 03:35, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

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re:Arab Crusade leaders
Hi mate, I don't think I'm the best person to help you on these two articles, as I'm not exactly knowledgeable in the area. Perhaps you should contact Roger Davies, a very kind and helpfull editor who appears to be knowledgeable in this area, or EyeSerene an experienced and reliable copyeditor. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 08:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I have done some minor changes to the articles, but you did a good job Jim Sweeney (talk) 08:35, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Muslim commanders
I will look into after school today; at the moment, we are literally starting class, so I have to go. TomStar81 (Talk) 16:30, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I had a look and did a little copyeditting, on the whole though you did well with the translations. The only major issues were comma issues, which I have tried to address. I also added copyedit tags to the articles to get a second opinion on what may need to be done. TomStar81 (Talk) 21:29, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Luca —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.85.192.149 (talk) 12:15, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

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Hi - and congratulations! It would be good to have an English article on him. I guess you're busy, but let me know if you get anything started. All the best Johnbod (talk) 21:09, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Franco Sacchetti
Per cortesia, ho visto che hai fatto un edit in questa voce. Puoi darci un'occhiata? C'è un tizio croato che continua ad inserire un inesistente nome croato del Sacchetti non presente in Google e non citato in nessuna storia di Ragusa (fra l'altro, è perfino dubbio il fatto che Sacchetti sia nato a Ragusa in Dalmazia), oltre a cancellare il suo inserimento fra i poeti e novellisti italiani. Ho indicato il perché dei miei edits nella pagina di discussione con dovizia di citazioni, ed in cambio ne ho ricevuto una minaccia di blocco! Grazie e ciao.--151.48.56.101 (talk) 17:57, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Come volevasi dimostrare: Franco Sacchetti è ritornato ad essere un possibile Frane Saćetić, oltre a non essere più un poeta e un novelliere italiano. Tutto ad opera del signore croato di cui t'ho parlato.--151.48.44.208 (talk) 22:12, 15 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Dimenticavo: secondo alcuni è dubbia la nascita a Ragusa di Sacchetti e si ipotizza in alternativa Firenze. Avevo indicato questa possibilità, ma ovviamente chi ha iniziato questa mini edit war ha cancellato il riferimento a Firenze, debitanemte motivato con citazione di fonti.--151.48.44.208 (talk) 22:14, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

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I noticed your recent edit to 2008 Formula One season, and your edit summary caught my attention. Looking through your contributions, I notice a slightly disturbing trend. Edit summaries such as this, this, this, and this, just from today. I understand that you are trying to make corrections to article. But insulting previous editors because of mistakes is not the proper way to handle this. Please do not continue to do this, and review Wikipedia's Civility policy as well. The359 (talk) 18:16, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Ciao!
So good to hear from old friends! I looked over it and applied some minor touches. The tag was really an overstatement, as it is a rather good article - stub size considered, that is. Perhaps you may want to rephrase "costume analysis" - see my hidden comment in the text.

Btw, you may have noticed that I had spruced up Giuseppe Ungaretti. Another editor removed the article from the "Italian fascists" category where I had placed it - my knowledge of Ungaretti is quite limited, but I based myself on the fact that the man had signed a fascist manifesto, was recognized as a fascist before WWII and exposed as a fascist after WWII, and because, with "clinical" hindsight, saying that this was the case is not saying that much. To clarify my latter statement: Italian fascism was the least and, for long, the most liberal of 20th century totalitarianisms; it created an intellectual fashion which took hold of many seemingly intelligent people, but when it led them astray, it didn't lead them as far astray as being a Nazi, Stalinist or a Maoist. Yes, Italian fascism too is very objectionable, but the common fallacy according to which calling a [former] fascist activist a fascist is non-politically correct strikes me as an odd notion to carry on wikipedia. I mean, it would be wrong to list either George Bush or Osama bin Laden "fascists" - in such cases, it is a polemical POV term and nothing more -, but why should Ungaretti, who, as far as I can tell, voluntarily endorsed fascism as a grown-up in an era of political freedom, not be known for this aspect of his life as well (especially given that he is known as such to many Italian sources I had no trouble finding)? Is it because he was also a good writer? So were Marinetti, Malaparte, not to say Sartre, Heidegger and Eliade - a blunt mention of what these people did, even as a "political hobby", should be alright, shouldn't it?

(Incidentally, I'm doing reading on a completely different issue, that of avant-garde in 1920s Romania. Even a Contimporanul issue from the period, cited by one more recent source, casually mentions Ungaretti among a young generation of fascist writers/journalists.)

In any case, maybe I am missing something in the picture. That's why I thought it best to ask you to approve or disprove my argument and how it relates to Ungaretti, because this may be wider debate than I am capable of seeing at the moment, and yes, because I may be entirely wrong. Please lemme know one way or the other. Best, Dahn (talk) 10:04, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick response. I'm going to look into the other article (though I'm sure your French is better than my "understand-only" Italian), but now I have to be signing out - will do so next time around (say, tonight). I'm also going to elaborate on the Ungaretti issue on the article talk page, so I don't leave the other editor clueless about my rationale (s/he has been awaiting my reply on these issues for months now). Dahn (talk) 10:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Congrats on the Laclos article: it looks very good, and, from what I could see, there was nothing wrong with it. Dahn (talk) 16:49, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

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You edited this page a couple of days ago, but I'm not sure from your edit history what you did. Have you moved the passage to a separate page? Or put it somewhere else? Or just deleted it? Moonraker12 (talk) 16:29, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Just to let you know; I (at last!) put this stuff on its own page at Privilege of St Romain, but don't have any source for it. It was in the Rouen page for about 4 years (added anonymously on 26 feb 2004)! Moonraker12 (talk) 11:20, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Lola Pagnani e Campora San Giovanni
Buonasera a te, ti scrivo nella nostra madrelingua. dunque avrei bisogno del tuo ottimo inglese per aggiornare il più presto possibile l'articolo sulla mia amica e sul paese che mi sopporta da 23 anni. Nel senso di un aggiornatina e correzioni varie. Per Campora puoi fare se puoi fare qualcosa all'istante. Per la prima ci manteniamo in contatto in questi giorni, in quanto mi deve arrivare la delibera dalla sua agenzia stampa. Per cortesia dunque potresi darmi questo aiuto, naturalmente se hai bisogno di una mano in campo geo-biografico fai pure, oppure posso aiutarti col calabro-siculo. Comunque una soluzione la troviamo. manteniamoci aggiornati. Ti ringrazio in anticipo!--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 22:06, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Buongiorno di nuovo, se non sei impegnato poi iniziare i lavori di ristruttrazione. aspetto il contraccambio. ^___^!--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 12:16, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Ciao Attilios ho visto che eri attivo e mi sono permesso di disturbarti, per favore potresti auitare un pochino questi due articoli? Grazie e scusa ancora una volta il Rompiscatole D'Europa.--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 23:21, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for the edits on this article. I'm afraid that the wl that you made for Desio doesn't work though. Any idea how to make a wl work within square brackets - ie keeping the fact that Desio isn't mentioned by Cassin himself, who calls him 'he'? Cheers. Ericoides (talk) 17:21, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Bianca Riario

 * Salve, I have noticed your work on the Bianca Maria Visconti article. I am also interested in the Sforza family and have created several articles on various Sforza women. The latest is Bianca Riario. Would you please be so kind as to look it over and see if you could perhaps add a bit more information. I notice that you are Italian. Most information on Bianca is in Italian. I live in Italy, and can read and speak Italian sufficiently, but some of the information on Bianca is hard to follow Thank you.--jeanne (talk) 17:44, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Attilios, thank you so much for your edits to the Bianca Riario article. It looks much better now. Don't you think we should leave the image of Caterina Sforza? At least until I can locate an image of Bianca which is free? I checked Commons but they dont have any images of her. The medallion of her would be good to use, if I could upload it to Commons. Thank you again for your help.--jeanne (talk) 12:26, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

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Palma
Hi! Please note Palma the Elder is just not correct in English - Palma Vecchio is normal. Same for Palma Giovane - see for example This is English usage, not Italian - please respect it! Don't tell me the names don't make sense in Italian either. Johnbod (talk) 14:30, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * English is its own language, and its usages are not "errors", even if they would be in Italian. You have to come to terms with this - no doubt Italian usage of English terms includes similar "errors", but that does not mean English people should start "correcting" them on Italian WP.  Johnbod (talk)

My dear Attilios!
So nice to receive your friendly message! I was wondering if you were still somewhere on the planet! I have been working very hard at painting and so on, and have not had so much time to write.

I know you will not love me for this, but Johnbod is right. Palma Vecchio has been called by that simplified version of his name, in English, ever since the 18th or 19th century...so that is the customary use in English. Likewise Palma Giovane, also known as Jacopo Palma.

I suggest that you respect this silliness and bloodymindedness in the English, simply because you must respect the nation that gave the world football, the BBC and a law that says you are innocent unless proven guilty.

You could come to a nice agreement with Johnbod to have redirects from the Italian version of each name, I'm sure! Amandajm (talk) 01:15, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Melfi
Hi Attilios, back in 2006 you wrote in the Melfi article that the First Crusade was summoned there in 1089. I've just removed that because it is definitely not true, but I was wondering where you got that information from? A Lonely Planet travel guide for Melfi says the same thing, and since it was published in 2006 I thought maybe either you got it from them, or they took it from Wikipedia. (Another user is now attempting to use the Lonely Planet guide as a source to add that same info to the First Crusade article, which is what led me back to you.) Adam Bishop (talk) 04:50, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Lesena
I cannot think what the English translation would be. Amandajm (talk) 09:15, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Just editting your church articles, and I saw where you needed the right word. The term "compartment" can be used in a general way. The word "bay" is also applied to the space between two columns, or two pilasters, attached columns etc. In a church, a "bay" is the entire space, both wall space and three dimensional space, between two columns or piers. Amandajm (talk) 09:54, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the application of that word is very much wider in English. We would say that a jewellry box is divided into compartments, and that the brain of a well-organised and pernicketty person was divided into compartments. Good work on the churches! There must be a pic somewhere of the centrally planned one. Amandajm (talk) 10:03, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello, Attilios! I'm glad that you and Johnbod are being nice and friendly! I will take a little look at your articles as well! You are doing a wonderful job. I keep getting into tedious long discussions when what I would rather be doing is writing useful stuff! Amandajm (talk) 11:10, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Girolamo Scag Is that the right name, or is there a letter missing? Amandajm (talk) 11:17, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

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Assessments and a warning
I recently got onto the architecture project page and took a look at which buildings etc are rated "Top" priority. What I discovered was that lots of American architectural firms and 19th/20th century architects were rated "top", while a great many buildings of such high importance that they appear in every text book, were missing. My efforts were greeted with "What's the point? Why bother?" But I think that the assessments are a good way of identifying what work needs doing in certain areas. You are doing a wonderful job on Italy's fantastic churches. On the other hand, Attilios, art theft from Italian churches is rife, so unless you know a building is well protected, it is not a good idea to publish the location of small precious sculptures and paintings by very famous names. Amandajm (talk) 11:36, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Getting Late here! It's about 11.00 pm by Eastern Daylight Saving Time. Yawn! I'll do the other one tomorrow! Amandajm (talk) 11:57, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

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 * Attilios, thank you for your helpful edits on the Taddea Visconti article. I agree that the list of all her 16 siblings was too ponderous. Auguri and Buon Natale.--jeanne (talk) 10:15, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I have just completed another article-this time on Caterina Visconti, a younger sister of Taddea, who lived a far more interesting life. I even located an image of her which I uploaded to the page.--jeanne (talk) 18:42, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

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Hello, Why shouldnt i be


 * Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom  I would say that was better to end this dicussion  --78.144.163.88 (talk) 15:57, 20 December 2008 (UTC)


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Rome

 * Sorry for not responding to your message. Rome is a beautiful city-in fact, it's one of my favourites. The people are so courteous and gentile. I have never been to Turin, but it must be interesting as it was once the capial of Italy under the Savoys. Thank you again for your edits on my Visconti-Sforza women articles. To me, the Viscontis and Sforzas were the two most interesting of all the Italian noble families, even more so than the De Medicis and Borgias. Auguri!--jeanne (talk) 13:08, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

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Ciao Mitico? passate bene le feste? Avrei bisogno che tu aiutassi questo articolo: Gianluca Ramazzotti, è il comico del Bagaglino, ma è anche un eccellente attore di teatro. purtroppo io con l'inglese siamo ancora nemici. Mi potresti dare un' aiuto? Ti ringrazio in anticipo come sempre!--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 13:41, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Ciao di nuovo, per cortesia puoi vedere se ho scritto bene qualche suo cenno biografico? grazie ancora--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 12:28, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

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 * Salve Attilios, I have just created a stub on Maria De Filippi. As she is the most popular presenter on Italian TV at the moment, she deserved an article on Wikipedia. Don't you agree?--jeanne (talk) 10:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

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Hi Attilios, I am working on the Pope John Paul II article in order to improve it and raise it to ‘Good Article’ and hopefully ‘Featured Article’ status. The article is currently in Pier Review. I thought you might be interested. Kind Regards     05:07, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi Attilios!
Happy New Year!

Today is Australia Day. In my town thousands of people have picnics on the beach or overlooking the boat harbour. There will be a big fireworks display. We really love our fireworks! I must go to bed soon as it is after midnight and I must take my brother out to lunch tomorrow. But I will look at your article first.

Thank you for the hugs! Amandajm (talk) 13:49, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

You are right of course, but you will have to admit that is is one of the most exquisite pieces of Gothic Revival architecture on the planet. Amandajm (talk) 13:59, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I've seen pictures of Santa Maria del Regno before. It's a very balanced, well-proportioned and characteristic Romanesque facade. But it looks very stark and forbidding.
 * This cathedral, St Andrew's, was built by a young English architect Edmund Blacket who migrated in 1843. He had such a great understanding of English Gothic buildings that even though he was 10,000 miles from home, he could build a church that looked as if it had been lifted out of an English village and dumped down in Australia. The English do not realise that he was one of their greatest 19th century architects. None of his work is purely imitative. He always designed as if he was a true Medieval architect who had got lost in the wrong century. Amandajm (talk) 14:17, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've done Carrara! Good Work! I will leave the other one for now, as I am nearly falling off my chair! Ciao! Amandajm (talk) 14:32, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

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Castellaneta
Hello, A translation request is still outstanding for the article above on the Italian translation project page. I see there was much work done by you a long while ago. Does this article still require proofreading? Thanks for letting me know on my talk page. -- Francesco Campelli (talk) 22:27, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Eh, sì, è colpa mia... Nonostante la buona volontà faccio ancora fregnacce di questo genere quando correggo traduzioni strampalate... l'articolo aveva bisogno di molta, tenera attenzione, e confesso di non aver neanche notato i punti... in inglese, diciamo "egregious error" --- ;-) Francesco Campelli (talk) 23:15, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

More Italian celebrities

 * Salve, I have recently created articles on Pamela Prati, Serena Autieri and Ricky Memphis (sua paesano! LOL), as well as Kledi and De Filippi.--jeanne (talk) 14:38, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the clean-up on the articles. They look much tidier now. Grazie.--jeanne (talk) 15:12, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

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re Piero
Hi Attilios! I was just looking at Holy Conversation (Piero della Francesca). I think it would be better to move it to Brera Madonna. In English, most of the altarpieces that are "sacred conversations" are not known by that name. That is the way they are described. (not Holy Conversation). This painting is usually called either the Montefeltro Altarpiace or the Brera Madonna, with the latter being the most common. Amandajm (talk) 10:03, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * So I moved it. Amandajm (talk) 10:17, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Television in Italy
Calling someone illiterate is not nice, m'kay, especially when you occasionally make spelling mistakes yourself, m'kay. FYI, I didn't write that piece, I just find this kind of behaviour hateful, definitely not what one would expect from a well-respected editor.--Piccolo Modificatore Laborioso (talk) 09:19, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Bianca Riario and Tony Sperandeo

 * Ciao, I forgot to tell you that I've written articles on these two people as well. By theway, did you know that there's a video on YouTube where it shows that episode of Distretto de polizia when Mauro Belli is gunned down? I have seen it many times. A good piece of acting from Memphis and Giorgio Tirobassi.--jeanne (talk) 12:30, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

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Attilios!
Why are you not commenting on the picture I posted on your page? It's a recreation of that church of your, before they stuffed around with it. Amandajm (talk) 22:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Re Romanesque: OK! If you are going to do that, I'll help you out with the interpretation. I keep getting distracted. But I have been working through the Cathedrals of England, mainly doing the less demanding ones. I started in alphabetical order but when I got to Canterbury, I baulked, because it really is major. It has a complex history, and many different building stages so it requires a lot of writing. I's actually the cathedral with which I am the most familiar.
 * Anyway, I skipped it and went on to Durham which is very easy by comparison, even though it is large and one of the greatest buildings on the planet. I haven't finished it yet.
 * I also noticed that Florence Cathedral needed tidying up. so I am doing that concurrently. There is this misconcept in the mind of many simplistic editors that fails to perceive the essential links between things and divides them up as if they were not linked at all. There is a failure to perceive the three buildings at Florence as part of the same cathedral complex. One article for church, one for baptistry, one for campanile. Although each one is worthy of an article dealing with its architecture and decoration, the main article, on the duomo, needs to make it clear that the tower is the cathedral's tower and the baptistry is they cathedral's baptistry. Anyway, I'll write a little more about the architecture.


 * Amandajm (talk) 23:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

St Sava
My dear Attilios, Nona is going to come over there to Turin and track you down and wring your neck! You are so ruthless! I have for many many weeks tried to get one of those Serbian people from to provide the answers to what a particular string of names were. As soon as someone did as they were asked, you deleted the lot! The information is useful, but it needed abreviation. Now we have more idea as to the architectural setting in Belgrade. I am going to thank her or him, and say that it was deleted in error, because it was in a box. Your comment was too rude! I thought it was only me who was so rude!

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 * Yes, that is what I was referring to! There was this long sentence that didn't make sense, and I had finally got someone to make sense of it, and chop! The Axe-man comes in and it is gone! But It is back, shorter and in a sentence, and I have thanked the person who providied the information... so leave it for now.
 * I will look at Pavia Cathedral. But I'm too tired, as it is very late! I can't sleep very well, when the weather is so hot.
 * The fires have been terrible, with many people killed. They will probably go for many more days, unless there is heavy rain, which is unlikely. Luckily there have been no severe fires near us yet. Amandajm (talk) 15:45, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

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Ho visto che hai risistemato la grotta di Nereo. Già che ci sono ti saluto e magari ti chiedo di darmi una mano ad inserire varie altre voci in particolare su alcune grotte che hanno una certa importanza scientifica, vedi la grotta dei Cervi, che ho scoperto nel '95 e che puoi consultare su it.wikipedia. Non ho molto tempo e pratica anche perchè il mio inglese non è perfetto. Abbiamo dei rapporti molto stretti con molti club subacquei in UK e tutti i vari amici e responsabili di club mi chiedono di inserire le pagine ovviamente nella loro lingua. Nel caso mandami un messaggio. Ciao--Abyssadventurer (talk) 10:44, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

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New article

 * Salve, I have added another Italian actor to Wikipedia. I decided to create an article on Francesco Benigno after seeing him perform last night on the Sanremo Music Festival. Great actor. He was wonderful in Ragazzi Fuori.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:25, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your edit. You don't think it necessary to mention his character Natale Sperandeo?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 21:03, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

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Revert? Why?
Please carefully and clearly explain teh reasons for teh revert you did on my art in Assisi section. The material was fully relevant and should remain. Thank you. History2007 (talk) 12:19, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Not so fast caro amico. Exactly where was the POV? Is Lorentzeti not a master? Is Simone Martini not a painter? Are the frescos not there? Where is the personal POV? Please clarify that before reverting. rest assured that if I have to add 30 pages of references. I will keep that material there. Certamente... History2007 (talk) 12:39, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

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Ragazzi Fuori

 * Ciao, Attilios. Well, I have finally created an article for the film Ragazzi Fuori. What do you think of it?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Cathedral
G'day! I notice you just deleted the gallery from that article. That should be just fine..... except that it won't be! Now all the people who have happily added to the gallery will jam their photos into the article instead. They will stuff up the formatting. They will not match the accompanying text. They will drive me up the wall! These are the reasons why I have been very tolerant of that gallery!

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 * Grazie. I had forgotten that Italian film titles are not capitalised after the first word. While I knew that ZEN was on the outskirts of North Palermo, I didn't know it was spelled with capital letters. I assumed it was spelled Zen. Thank you for your help.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:21, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for assisting me with ZEN. It needed it's own aricle as many articles in Wikipedia refer to it.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Alessandro Di Sanzo

 * Attilios, do you think I should create a stub for Alessandro Di Sanzo?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 10:01, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * He was the actor who played the part of Mery.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 10:11, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I just created it. It's just a stub, but what do you think of it?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 10:37, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Why did you revert my edit?
I'm curious to know why you removed the edit I made here. All I did was move somethings around and added additional infrmation. --Ted87 (talk) 13:55, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Xiuhtecuhtli - no aut template
Hi Attilios - just a quick query as to why the 🇦🇹 template shouldn't be used - it's widely used in Wikiproject Mesoamerica articles, which is where I've picked up the habit. Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 16:07, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply. I'll post this to the Wikiproject Mesoamerica discussion board for some 3rd party feedback. Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 22:06, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

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Pier Paolo Pasolini.
Attilios, pray tell, why have you reverted my addition of the categories "Italian communists", "Italian Marxists", and "Marxist journalists"?

The Wikipedia article on Pasolini clearly identifies him as Marxist and a journalist. There is even a whole section on his adherence to communist beliefs. The cateogry "Italian communists" is separate from "Members of the Italian Communist Party", and the category pages clearly distinguish between these.

Clearly these categories are pertinent - after all, they are notable enough to be implicitly written into the biographical article itself.

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Matthias Corvinus
Why did you delete the picture of Hunyad Castle in Matthias Corvinus article? It was the place, where the young Matthias grew up. --Celebration1981 (talk) 15:16, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

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Mölgg
Hi Attilios; have you read my post on the talkpage? I wrote to the homepage to ask what the correct name is and the answer was Mölgg. and that the spelling variation Moelgg is used for communications purposes. Now, if we have an email by the official homepage stating that the correct name is Mölgg and the Province of Bolzano-Bozen says there are 0 persons living in the province with the name Moelgg (you can check for all names in the province through this link ) I suggest you move the articles back to their correct spelling, namely: Mölgg. --noclador (talk) 14:14, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Oops - I saw your post on the talkpage of Manfred Mölgg only after I wrote the above. first: thanks for the compliment about the crests I drew. second: the email came from @moelgg.com and it explained that the name change is because the FIS "on principle does not permit the use of vowel mutations" in its lists. The official homepage is at moelgg.com because you can not register a top level domain with ö ä ü and the like. I wrote to the homepage, because being from the province I was surprised that some people think that the name is spelled Moelgg - I do not know of anyone who spells this name here in that way. I checked with the provincial name database and there is not a single person registered here with the name Moelgg, but 139 with the name Mölgg ( enter the name Mölgg and click on "Suche" to see the results). After I saw that I wrote the homepage of the two to ask what the correct spelling is and as I suspected they use Moelgg for communication reasons (I believe only German layout keyboards have the ä ö ü and ß letters). Therefore I moved the articles today to the correct spelling Mölgg (which also must be on the twos carta d'identita, because the provincial name list is based on the carta d'identitas handed out by the communes). I let you now decide how to proceed. --noclador (talk) 14:24, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


 * yes, it surprises me too that they use Moelgg in the German language section of their official homepage - my suspicion is that they do so to be consistent with the English and Italian spelling of their name. As for your theory that they are Ladin: I do not know if they are, but they are from and live both in one of the Ladin communes: Mareo - so they might be Ladin, although the provincial names database shows that the highest number of Mölgg live in the German speaking Valle Aurina (so they might have moved from there across the Val Pusteria to the Val Badia). But as they would have to get their carta d'identita from the commune of Mareo (which is 93.30% Ladin) and the bureaucracy there is almost entirely Ladin (Per legge 93,30% dei impiegati del comune di Mareo devono essere Ladini), I think that the name was not Germanized but is really Mölgg (which is also the version of the name used int he Ladin weekly La Usc di Ladins ).
 * I did already start to create articles about Italian regiments and battalions :-) User:Noclador (sono un vecio del 4° Alpini ReCom di Bolzano). All articles about the Alpini on the English wiki (and most of the articles about the Italian Army brigades on the German wiki are from me). My aim is to to bring Alpini to featured article status. Annoyingly a lot of my time is taken by the constant discussion on the South Tyrolean naming disputes (two nationalists created havoc all over the articles there i.e. they tried to rename the "Neue Südtiroler Tageszeitung" (New South Tyrolean Daily into (New Daily for the province of Bolzano-Bozen) in their campaign to get rid of the name South Tyrol...) so although my main interest is to create a a perfect and wide ranging Alpini article realm I am only advancing at a slow pace... i.e. in the Alpini article only the sections Alpini and Alpini are finished... the rest is still to be done (I'm alone in this work...); next up: 1915-1918 plus a detailed article about the Alpine front in WWI :-) --noclador (talk) 15:30, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The Swedish wiki has asked me to forward the email to them and has put it in the OTRS system to confirm the spelling: - have you thought about what to do on the English wiki? --noclador (talk) 20:21, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

If you have nothing to say anymore I will move the names tonight to the correct Mölgg. --noclador (talk) 16:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * you want a comment by them??? First they are not brothers, but siblings, second: we have an email by their homepages webmaster, who says the use of Moelgg is for communication reasons and the correct name is Mölgg, then we have the Ladin newspaper using only the name Mölgg; another example: the Maratona dles Dolomites in which the Mölgg races every year uses also the name Mölgg - La Maratona is an event organized by Ladins from Alta Badia. The provincial database doesn't know anyone with the name Moelgg, but lots of Mölgg and on top of that: when the Province of Bolzano-Bozen sends out a press statement in Ladin they use the name Mölgg the name Mölgg is also used when the province sends out a press statement in Italian and on top of that: his ski sponsor uses the name Mölgg in its English site. The name is Mölgg and I am moving now the pages, because any further discussion will only and always point to the same conclusion: It is Mölgg! --noclador (talk) 06:30, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Frederick II, Holy Roman Emperor
I'm not aware of such discussion. Can you point me to it? -- Kendrick7talk 19:19, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You have confused dates (i.e. 1 January) with years. -- Kendrick7talk 01:22, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

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I see you've removed the gallery on this article, because galleries must apparently be consulted at commons. What does this mean? And surely it's better to leave the gallery in but flag the requirement on the talk page or even begin whatever process is required at commons. I didn't create this gallery, but am curious because I might want to do this on other articles. --Bermicourt (talk) 09:21, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

I would grateful for your help here. Thanks. --Bermicourt (talk) 13:06, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


 * In a nutshell (I have just restored some galleries also), a simple misunderstanding.
 * General policy is that galleries are always inappropriate in short articles ("Wikipedia is not an image gallery"), and in such cases they are best moved to Commons (revamping is only an option in longer articles)
 * But for longer articles, and to illustrate the text, galleries on Wikipedia are OK "where a collection of images can illustrate aspects of a subject that cannot be easily or adequately described by text or individual images".


 * Which - as per "adequately" - could apply here: an overview of the line cannot adequately presented by in-text images due to layout constraints. But the gallery needs revamping: the map as first image is rather nice but might go in-text above the gallery, and the gallery should run from Cologne to Frankfurt Central Station (or the other way around), presenting notable features directly related to the rail line. E.g. tunnels, bridges, stations, but probably not File:Main 08 2006 140.jpg (that could go into a gallery at Bundesautobahn 3 though). And the images should be presented in the proper sequence, i.e. as they would be encountered by a traveller.


 * As a rule-of-thumb:
 * Galleries are cool in Wikipedia,
 * if the article is already better than Start-class, and
 * if the gallery content is directly relevant to some text paragraph's content, and
 * if 4 or more images are needed to illustrate a paragraph of text or if for some other reason (e.g. layout) the images cannot be placed alongside the text.
 * Otherwise, galleries belong to Commons. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 18:20, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * E.g. Oriental Turtle Dove is what I would just barely consider OK... the second pic is quite useful, the others not so, so at face value it should not stand. But it improves layout quite a bit, so it is more helpful than disruptive. If it had like 3 rows of such images, I would mercilessly it (not delete, that is too harsh!) and let someone from the Commons crew deal with it.

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Grazie per l'aiuto! Non sono molto pratico della wikipedia in inglese benché abbia raggiunto un discreto livello con quella italiana. Vorrei portare la versione in inglese di Treviglio in vetrina come ho già fatto per quella italiana. Che ne dici di Darmi una mano?! --Simauer (talk) 17:34, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

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Is Cedric Kahn's film L'Ennui not a film adaptation of Alberto Moravia's La Noia?Sayerslle (talk) 00:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

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I realise that Wikipedia's preferred style is not to use lists, but in the case of chronologies, I tend to prefer them because of the risk to precision that literary style poses. I have found that when people convert lists to paragraphs, they have a tendency to replace repetitive phrases such as "In 1960..." with constructions such as "A few years later,..." The result is a loss of information. I tend to favor the retention of information over aesthetics or the perfection of form. Acad Ronin (talk) 11:24, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

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 * ) they referred to cr 42 I think.... anyway o saw such micro events in other pages... are you going to clean all them up? Or only those where the aerial monuments of Raf are not in shining light? :)

Anyway, thanks for wishes... regads from Roma! gian piero --Gian piero milanetti (talk) 12:38, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * )Sì ma grazie a dio non sono tutti appiattiti a fare il tappetino ai loro apparecchi... io le frasi più lusinghiere sui piloti e i mezzi italiani li ho trovati su libri scritti da anglo-americani o tedeschi... devo dire che tranne nel caso del Mustang dove mi hanno cancellato una citazione dall'opera de agostini in cui si parlava di 58 abbattimenti di mustan da parte della anr (forse discutibile, ma comunque una citazione), non mi hanno cancellato niente... tu sei il primo!!!

ti prego fermati qua!! Se va bene a loro!!tu scrivi di aerei anche in wikipedia italiana? --Gian piero milanetti (talk) 13:04, 15 April 2009 (UTC) gian piero

Argentine Navy
No worries, I hate having to revert good faith edits but I looked and looked and just couldn't find where the mistake crept in. I guess a square bracket was missing but I just couldn't see it. Thanks for fixing it. Justin talk 08:43, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * BTW a question, why did you remove the Spanish language equivalent to the Falklands War on the Rio Gallegos article? Just for information I went to some trouble to ensure both languages were represented on linked articles; in part to prevent the usual nationalist vandalism it attracts.  Justin talk 12:41, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't disagree, however, it simply results in nationalist POV pushers disrupting the article. Justin talk 21:22, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

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Ciao Attilios....come andiamo??? sono stato assente tanto....sempre nella mio paesello natale....diventato adesso una specie di Vaticano....non dico caro mio....il 15 gennaio 2009 è cambiata la mia vita.....un salto di qualità.....Facebook mi ha cambiato la vita......Ho incontrato un ciclone....un amore grande che ha cambiato tutto in me....mi ha reso maturo e ha dato la forza di combattere e di andare lontano con le mie parole.......una ragazza venezuelana che ho amato, amo e adesso è parte integrante della mia vita....lontani.....ma vicini.....adesso ho fatto di Campora San Giovanni un paese nuovo...quel paesello piccolo piccolo che ha avuto una rivoluzione....adesso questo piccolo borgo ha un processo di modernizzazione e sguardo verso il futuro..ho molto da fare e andare lontano.....Ti prego se puoi aiutarmi visto che adesso ho l'inglese arruginito...le nuove modifiche che ho apportato...ti ringrazio....A Buon Rendere sempre....--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 20:35, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

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Hi Attilios. I've reversed the unheralded reference formatting changes you'd recently done, to Huitzilopochtli and a couple of other related articles. They were intentionally presented that way, for clarity and greater ease of picking out entries in a biblio list format. There is no single mandated 'correct' reference presentational style to enforce here, that I am aware of. There are at least four or five different methods in operation (per WP:CITE); that is, methods over-and-above the de facto standard of haphazard presentation, or no presentation at all. That formatting is but a minor departure from the WP:CITESHORT method. If it's not commonly done that way, then that's more because it's uncommon for any thought to be given to layout, readability, and how a reference/bibliography is actually used&mdash;by looking up keywords (ie authors' names) in an ordered listing.

I see no issues with that style; there are featured articles that use it. It's an improvement over the usual undifferentiated and unhelpful mess. If you think any changes need making to some cite/referencing style already established in some article, it might be best to raise it on relevant talkpg first. Regards, --cjllw<font color="#DAA520"> ʘ TALK 08:27, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Attilios, thanks for your replies at my talkpg.


 * Re lists and bullets: afraid I don't see where in the MOS it dictates that bullet markers must always be used, either at MOS:LIST or elsewhere. Indeed, in the List styles section several different example types of lists are given, some without bullet markers. In any case, following the overarching MOS general principles for styles and formats, these need only be consistently applied within articles, not necessarily between them; sensible departures from MOS guidelines/suggestions are perfectly fine and any departures on their own are insufficient grounds to alter a deliberate chosen style from one to the other, without consensus.


 * As for why in this particular case bullet markers are not desirable- the reasons are twofold (although technically speaking, the colons are bullet markers, just 'invisible' ones&mdash;they generate underlying HTML code as list elements in the same way that an asterisk [*] or hash [#] does).


 * Firstly, a bibliography is not a run-of-the-mill list, although it technically may be a list. Since the chosen style uses hanging indents to offset the bibliography elements one from the other, using bullet markers also to do this would be redundant. The indentation is the bullet marker, if you prefer.


 * Second reason is a technical one. It so happens that browsers treat bullets differently, wrt to how they align the bullet marker with the indentation level. MSIE moves the bullet marker to the right if this indent is applied, whereas Firefox, Opera etc do not. So if we're using indents, when viewed in an MSIE browser the bullet gets shifted hard up against the first character of the text (or even, appears inside the text), which is not a good look (other browsers can cope with this kind of layout). Since a great many folks use MSIE, it's best to just make the bullet marker invisible (which is what the colon [:] does), and the output then looks the same across browsers. As mentioned, the hanging indent already does the job of providing a demarcation between each element, so visible bullet markers aren't needed anyway.


 * Hope that explains things. I have reset all those now again to the chosen presentation format. Thanks for your attention anyway. Best, --cjllw<font color="#DAA520"> ʘ TALK 06:28, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Galleries
Attilios, see WP:IG - recently revised. Cheers. Johnbod (talk) 21:26, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Caravagio cardsharps
Hi Attilios. Could you look again at that article? I don't think it''s chaotic crap at all - it's a schematic account of the work's provenance, useful info perhaps to someone. (I didn't write it by the way - I just keep an eye on Caravaggio articles). PiCo (talk) 12:09, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

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re:infoboxes
Hi. As part of the goals of the WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers project "To ensure that every article biography related to film uses Template:Infobox actor and an image if possible. Please try to place the infobox in all film bio articles." Thanks.  Lugnuts  (talk) 13:42, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Take it up with the project then.  Lugnuts  (talk) 13:46, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

World War 2 Italian Divisions
Thanks I am trying to create articles for all the WW2 Italian Divisions Template:Italian Divisions World War II could you check for any other errors like the Forlì --Jim Sweeney (talk) 08:36, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

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If you don't agree with the new template, you should not just restore the old one with the claim "restored clearer template" a) the map is a lot clearer as to where a village is located b) dark map? then lodge a request to brighten it up at the map team of the German wikipedia as others already have requested that the maps colors be better differentiated and as for these removal of content:, and  what did you think there??? --noclador (talk) 20:44, 10 May 2009 (UTC)


 * What do you think about a map like this: commons:File:Karte Gemeinde Thun 2007.png would that be ok for you? --noclador (talk) 09:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * As for the population graphs - where they have been missing I added them (now all the comuni of the province have them) and as for updating - I went to the University of Innsbruck and got the data from 1880 and 1910 and have begun to add them to all the comuni (the data from 1900 seems to be lost). Also the census is only done every 10 years in province so an update in 2011 and 2021 shouldn't be an impossible task for all us wikipedians :-)
 * As for the map: I lodged a request with the wiki map team to include a national map as with the Swiss locator maps. --noclador (talk) 12:40, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

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Doesn't the Wiki software give you the chance to write over any edits that have been made in the interim? It always gives me that option... --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 20:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
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Italian communes COAs on Commons
Hi, I'm Rar from Ukrainian wiki. I made stubs of all communes of Italy (using bot, example: uk:Чиримідо). Few days ago I started to move COAs with GNU-license from enwiki to Commons, but there is a problem with permission information (Commons:User talk:Rar). Could you help me with this problem? I found your talk page User talk:Attilios/Licenses. Is it enough to provide link to this page? I'm not good with licenses, so I will appreciate any help or explanations. Thank you! --Rar (talk) 09:51, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

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GA reassessment of Caravaggio
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Edit of San Pietro in Montorio, Irish Princes' Tombs
I would like to know the reason for your edit of the page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Pietro_in_Montorio. I would also point out that your edit is grammatically incorrect.

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Image deletion
Please see Non-free_content_review. You will need to submit a ticket to WP:OTRS to prevent them from being deleted.  MBisanz  talk 03:12, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Look, please stop uploading these images. There are serious issues with them (no OTRS ticket, and the question of whether they belong to that website anyway) and, unless you explain the situation at the discussion above, they're just going to get deleted. J Milburn (talk) 22:22, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, for a start, what makes you sure they belong to that website? Surely they would belong to the respective towns/regions? J Milburn (talk) 18:24, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Please don't attack other users
Please do not attack other editors. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. - Kingpin13 (talk) 09:24, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Maske: Thaery
I prefer shorter section titles, but WP:NOVSTY seems to recommend "Characters in [novel title]". Clarityfiend (talk) 16:59, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Elio Germano
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Pin maps
Hi. Just remember that you can get the mountain to appear on a map of Italy like Monte Altissimo. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 11:40, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Awesome job on Chiaravalle Abbey BTW. Are you still speaking to me? We used to talk a while back. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 11:48, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Chiaravalle
Hi Attilio! I removed the image pictured right because I think it is one of the most incompetent photographs I have ever seen in the encyclopaedia. That sort of panoramic distortion is perfectly acceptable as long as you keep the tripod head level—see numerous shots of the Italian lakes, e.g. in the Lago di Como article. But tilt the camera and you are nearly always in deep, hot water.

You can leave it in if you want, but I do think that its sheer ugliness undermines the good work you did on the article. Cheers, Ian Spackman (talk) 20:37, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Failing a reponse I assume you don’t care. So I have removed the abortion of an image! Ian Spackman (talk) 19:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Syria
I am sorry to hear that it didn't go right! I will look at your articles. Amandajm (talk) 06:44, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Medeival battles
Hi! I have a challenge. Can you transwiki the articles from here? Dr. Blofeld       White cat 15:26, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

HI. Mostly the ones that ar emissing, I believe we have most of them alreayd in English. FIrst of all would be Battle of Cascina, we have an article on the painting but no real detail about the battle! Ciao! Dr. Blofeld      White cat 15:58, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Fortified house
Please use the "move" tag instead of cut and page when you want to rename a page. (You made it appear as if you had written the entire article that is now at Fortified houses in Ireland). I have fixed the page histories so the authors should now be correctly attributed, but next time, please don't cause extra work for us poor admins :) Happy editing, Kusma (talk) 11:23, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Apostolic Palace
Why was the popular culture deleted from Apostolic Palace? Just because it is in a game does not render it "childish". Per WP:IPC, even a child's movie if referenced properly can be included. If you are going to reply here, please place a template on my talk page. Warrior4321 Contact Me  16:05, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

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Licenses subpage
Hi. Due to this discussion it would be good if you could modify your "license" subpage to indicate that the www.araldicacivica.it permission is a Fair Use permission and not a GFDL permission. Thanks Lokal_Profil 18:43, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note also that the other permissions might be of similar nature. /Lokal_Profil 18:44, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Gaeta stemma.gif
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Proposed deletion of World domination


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Re: Battisti
Thanks! However weren't all mine edits, the capitals letters were added by an other user. I reverted your last edit because the cause of Battisti death are unclear and the hospital didn't officially told the cause, so I think we shouldn't add that category. About the audio samples, they are in fair use so we have to use it in the article until someone will write albums articles, although you're right saying that they are too many and they make the article unreadable. Ciao, --Una giornata uggiosa '94 (talk) 17:35, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * OK (sì, sono italiano, il fatto è proprio questo e spero di non fare troppi errori ;-) ) --Una giornata uggiosa '94 (talk) 20:11, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for fixing my typos. I'm not an expert about Guccini, De Gregori, Vecchioni and others italians musicians, but if I have time I can write short articles like the ones I'm writing for Battisti. --Una giornata uggiosa '94 (talk) 19:10, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

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Invitation to join WP:PROGROCK
I noticed that you were the original creator of Template:User Progressive rock, and thought you might be interested in joining! Let me know. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  <sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ <sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢  07:37, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Bracciano
Care to explain? Mallerd (talk) 21:50, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Is anything relevant? The Inglorious Bastards, not Inglorious Bastard. It is an Italian film. Mallerd (talk) 12:11, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Avigliano (PZ)
I didn't, I redirected to Avigliano (PZ)! The article about the comune was completely empty. As the article was about a small frazione within it seemd best to redirect into the main comune article and save space. Besides which I'm sure there was a consensus a while back to try to focus on expanding comune articles and not starting articles seperately on friazione until it had developed. At a later date when the ,ain comune article develops it can be split into its own article then... Himalayan   17:12, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

If this was fully translated then there would be a needed for seperate articles! Himalayan   17:15, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Rimozione immagini in pagina Catania
Ciao, mi spieghi su che base l'immagine di Giovanni Verga e quella di Vincenzo Bellini non servono nella pagina della cultura di Catania? Il mio non è assolutamente un flame, ma rimuoverle così improvvisamente e con una motivazione soggettiva mi sembra un attimino inopportuno... potevi proporlo in area discussione prima... Drunkpiper (talk) 21:11, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Images in mug
Forgive my strong language yesterday (just woke up, in a wrong time :-). I shall revert your good-faith image placement edit in mug, but let me first explain why. Image placement is an art which I'm still mastering. The most frequent mistake I see is editors forget about different screen resolution. Some operators are screen-scalable, some (specifying px size) are not. I myself test my edits on 1024x768 and 1280x1024, IE and Firefox, which I believe are the most popular settings, but some users still complain they see garbage on their PCs after my edits. Specifics in mug are: (i) You tried to equalize image size, but made it different in left and right columns. As a result, some mugs are disproportionately large on 1024x768, not to mention low res which is still used. On the other hand, Figs. 2-4 pack well into history on 1024x768, but cut through the next section on 1280x1024. (ii) Shaving mug should stay in its section. (iii) Mug tree has text over it on 1024x768 and ugly cuts though the section on 1280x1024. I accept there are too many images in the body of that article, but they are all functional. "My" operator

is a universal approach to fix those ugly cuts through sections, on any settings and resolution. Having blank space is much less of a problem than mixed up image and text - as the main contributor I do hope to add text to fill the gaps there.

Just to illustrate my point, let us look at some page, e.g. your user page, as you suggested.
 * On my both resolutions, I see your nice veteran badge completely covered up by the TOC text. Maybe is an option, followed by some image placement tweak?
 * "Articles I created or brought to a decent status" has a fixed width and thus takes small part of your user pagewidth. I would use, e.g., 100% instead of 450px. An alternative is template (but I admit that might be ugly there).
 * Your barnstars have variable width, which again can be tweaked by adding, e.g., "width: 90%" into the "style".

Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 23:49, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

PS Just a note that mere editing your talk page of 243 kb is time consuming on some slow PCs. Usual practice is to archive long talks.