User talk:Atulsnischal/archive 2

Inserting Links in "See Also"
Hi Atulsnischal, you have done a nice job in contributing to the Mair Rajputs and Rajput article. I appreciate your good work and wish you the best for your future projects. But, linking every other article to the said article isn't correct. The link to Rajputs is already provided in the main body of the Kshatriya article. So there's no need for linking Rajputs again in the "See Also" section. Also, linking Mair Rajputs to articles like Raja and Maharaja makes little sense. I know you are doing it with the best of intentions, but some other users may deride it as spam. So, that's why, don't link those articles to irrelevant articles. Nevertheless, keep on contributing in a wise and a bold manner. In case you might require any help, do not hesitate to talk to me. Bye. And keep rockin' ! -- N R S | T/M\B 05:27, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Jammu & Kashmir
Hi Deepak please dont remove Karan Singh from Jammu & Kashmir, he is the would be "Maharaja / king" of all of Jammu & Kashmir, please check history. His father was king he stepped down from throne and he acceded to India like so many Royals did from all the Princly States.

Thanks

08:47, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Atulsnischal

Hi Deepak,

'''What politician are you talking about, he is the KING of all Jammu & Kashmir for gods sake. Please check the history of the state.'''

Atulsnischal 08:51, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * So you mean to say Karan Singh is the would be Maharaja of Jammu and Kashmir?! Nevermind, the very purpose of the See also section is to provide links to readers to articles on other topics related to the concerned topic. I just don't understand why would a person who would like to gain some information regarding J&K will go to an article on Karan Singh? Besides, so what if he belongs to a royal family? --Incman|वार्ता 08:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Jammu & Kashmir

 * Haha.. KING of Jammu and Kashmir.. the last thing I want to know is that India is a monarchy. LOL! --Incman|वार्ता 08:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Deepak

Some people still respect him on all 3 sides of the Borders of J&K, he may someday help people to come together and reach some understanding, atleast he can do some good on his own, he has a historical connection to this disputed land and its people, we can atleast provide a link to people for an important chapter in the history of J&K and a very important personality of the state.

Thats all, I was just thinking the best for the people of J&K, I am not here to fight with you, please rethink and revert

Best wishes

Atulsnischal 09:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Well I know that Mr. Karan Singh has a great personality and is a good man but you have to understand the rules of Wikipedia. Adding a link to Karan Singh defeats the very purpose of the See also section and would result in a decline of Wikipedia's overall credibility. I hope you understand the problem and I would like to express my apologies for my earlier argumentative tone. Thanks --Incman|वार्ता 09:19, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Also, at the same time you must realize that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and therefore not the right mean for all this. --Incman|वार्ता 09:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Atulsnischal, if you continue with your stubborn attitude, I will have to take up the matter to a Wikipedia administrator or Arbcom. --Incman|वार्ता 19:45, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Deepak

You seem to be obssed with the Jammu and Kashmir article on Wikipedia, anybody can make it out, you have got stuck and are going on and on about it, you dont respect other peoples viws too, as for me I think there should be a link to Dr Karan Singh's article here, which was just a stub, so I was trying to develop it, thats all, you are playing politics over the whole issue, please think with informational and historical point of view.....

I have also copyed this discussion with you in the Jammu and Kashmir as well as Dr Karan Singh's discussion page, just for the record that Dr Karan Singh article was discussed, as it is a legitimate discussion.

If you get time later please help in developing Dr Karan Singh's article on Wikipedia too.

Just for info only as you seem interested: Latest News on Kashmir topic today: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2006/12/05/pakistan-kashmir.html?ref=rss

Thanks Cheers

Atulsnischal 20:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Of course I am obsessed with the article on J&K. As a matter of fact, a good chunk of that article is written by me (including the History section). And before calling me inconsiderate, look at yourself! Have you analyzed my arguments above in a logical way? You say: "Some people still respect him on all 3 sides of the Borders of J&K, he may someday help people to come together and reach some understanding, atleast he can do some good on his own, he has a historical connection to this disputed land and its people, we can atleast provide a link to people for an important chapter in the history of J&K and a very important personality of the state." Hello! This is an encyclopedia. Not a propaganda website. Anyways, I find this discussion a waste of time and unintellectual. So I won't take part in it anymore as I have better things to do. --Incman|वार्ता 20:31, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Problems with Mair Rajputs
(Just copying message from Articles talk page here):

POV, References, citataion, non-specific
Hello User:Atulsnischal. I see you are doing most of the edits and expansion of this article. I just have a few concerns that I would like to address to make this a better article.

You have added many references and external links to the page, but no in-text citations which makes it very hard to verify some of the claims you have made. I have marked these out in the article as. Please add the appropriate CREDIBLE sources. You can not use unpublished, original research on Wikipedia as you have pointed out in the References section: "'This article on 'Mair Rajputs' on Wikipedia has originally been written by Atul Singh Nischal (Bhatti / Bhati), I am a Mair Rajput, I have also referred to my own questioning of elders in our family of Nischal, Shinh, Sur and Luddhar / Luthra'"

Furthermore, I rewrote this section due to it non-neutral point of view: "'With the partition of India in 1947 into India and Pakistan the Indian state of Punjab was also split in two. The Mair Rajputs living in the portion of Punjab that was given to the newly created Muslim country of Pakistan had to leave by force to save themselves from communal slaughters and forceful conversion to Islam, many of them fled their ancestral homeland now in Pakistan in a complete destitute state and had to start life afresh in India. All their ancestral land, property and wealth was left behind in Pakistan. Life was tough for them at the beginning after partition; they had to live in a destitute state in refugee camps in India before they were allotted specially constructed houses in the Refugee colonies by the government of India. Many of them settled in Delhi and other parts of India after partition.'"

Also, there is a large number of insiginifact External Links, please see the Wikipedia policy here: External links


 * To learn how to cite your sources properly, please see:
 * Citing sources


 * To verify, see:
 * Verifiability

8Regarding Original Research, see:
 * No original research

Overall, please reveiew Manual of Style, and use a professional tone expected from an encyclopedia.

Thanks - - Ozzykhan 20:05, 7 December 2006 (UTC)