User talk:Atyx

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I am not interested to be a slave of wikipedia!

Fair use, fai pay back of my work!

From now on wikipedia is using my pics and my text without my permission!

what?
Is this ("I am not interested to be a slave of wikipedia!") only because of me moving your link out of the infobox to the external links section? This is very silly! Markussep Talk 23:04, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

that!
Definitely yes. We discussed the url point and you said this will be OK if I did all the work. And I did a lot of work. Dont think its easy to take the pcitures, dont think it was easy to find a text and if you think so take a look to the german "Wolkersdorf" site.

If wikipedia is not fair I see no reason to act as editor because to mention my url instead of the city url - whatfor should I do such a job?

A little advanage must be, if not delete the page please!

--Atyx (talk) 23:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * When exactly did I say "this will be OK if you do all the work"? You added your text under the GFDL license, so actually you're not even allowed to remove it. You should not come to wikipedia looking for advantages, this is not an advertisement site! People like me add information simply because they want to share it. All I expect in return is interesting stuff to read! Is that so hard to understand? Markussep Talk 23:18, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Lesson to me
As said: Wikipedia is not any longer allowed to use my pictures and my text for Wolkersdorf im Weinviertel.

It is not a advertisement site but I think it is not to much asked to keep my personal url in the infobox and I consider this as little payback for my work.

'''If wikipedia makes advertisement for the official website by posting this url as main url into my work - on my behalf - I dont agree with that. It's still advertisement or not?'''

I only remember that we discussed the matter in short. You told me usually official web site link will be posted in the infobox and I told you this is not OK for me. DEfinitely my url was posted for weeks and - for your information - in this time I got 5 visitors from wikipedia.

This is just said to suggest you that something must be wrong with wiki in this matter. May People consider it as cheat to do the work and to get nothing than advertisement for third parties - third parties which are even not interested to read the article in wikipedia concerning the own City? I asked the Mayor to donate for wikipedia, his answer: Never heard about, we only use google!

What is the problem? Delete the site and wait till somebody else doe the job in accordance with your idears.

--Atyx (talk) 23:32, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * To get some things straight:
 * The wikipedia article about Wolkersdorf is not your property
 * Wikipedia articles do not make advertisement for any site. However, it is common practice to add some external links (for instance that of the local government) where more information about the subject can be obtained. obviously commercial weblinks will be removed.
 * You added your pictures under a license. I have no idea whether you can recall a license just like that, read the law text. I have no problem with not using your pictures, they were too many anyway. Same for your text.
 * If you think doing voluntary work without reward equals being cheated, that's your problem, not wikipedia's. Markussep Talk 00:30, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

'''If wikipedia makes advertisement for the official website by posting this url as main url into my work - on my behalf - I dont agree with that. It's still advertisement or not?'''--Atyx (talk) 23:07, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

However
I regret that your work also is moreless useless under this circumstances because you did a good work.

Common practice or not: If I do something I expect something. For you this may looks strange, for me its the result of different mean experiences over here.

If you like you can open this page again but only if my url is mentioned in the infobox. If not a competitor gets an advantage from me and this is like playing football and scoring in my own goal.

I still think there is something in the back, ready to be issued. I've seen the picture you posted now already once. This doesnt touch me it seems more a indicator for what I guess but go ahead I dont care for that. (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Schloss_Wolkersdorf.jpg)

Lets talk straight instead of endless vandalism attacks on this page from all over Europe.

Sorry for you but this wiki guideline is like a rape.

And: I know the property of this page is yours. You filled in the blank forms, you made it easy to place something in this page which fullfills what you expected - and I did it with your help and you did it with my help, so farr so good.

But I'm not driving the ball in my own goal, can you respect this?

--Atyx (talk) 02:15, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The article is not my property either, it's wikipedia's. The whole idea of wikipedia is that articles are written by several people: some may do the bulk of the work, others may improve parts or challenge parts they think are inappropriate or unsourced. Putting your personal webpage in an infobox is not the way to go. I don't understand this competitor issue, how can you compete with an official town webpage? That is silly. You may have better or more information (actually I doubt that, I can't find how to reach the town government on your page), but that's the official page, so that's what we link to in the infobox. If you can't be satisfied with a listing under external links, that's your problem. I don't know what you mean with endless vandalism attacks (surely not mine?), or different mean experiences (on wikipedia?). Markussep Talk 09:38, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

'''If wikipedia makes advertisement for the official website by posting this url as main url into my work - on my behalf - I dont agree with that. It's still advertisement or not?''' --Atyx (talk) 23:09, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm losing interest in this discussion. Please don't overestimate your work, the only mainspace article you have ever contributed to was Wolkersdorf im Weinviertel, to my knowledge. And it was not brilliant. If you insist on this inclusion of your weblink in a prominent place, I think our discussion is closed. Time to move on, we'll see what happens to the article. Maybe I'll translate the de: article, that's rather OK. Markussep Talk 15:46, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

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