User talk:Aubernas

Extant pages I created: And in Māori...
 * 1990 Auckland Jewish daycare stabbing
 * Pisupo Lua Afe (Corned Beef 2000)
 * Category:New Zealand contemporary works of art
 * Leisure (band)
 * 2021 Dunedin supermarket stabbing
 * Director-General of the Government Communications Security Bureau
 * Culture of Auckland
 * Pasifika New Zealanders
 * Blue cheese wontons
 * Death and state tangi of Norman Kirk
 * Resignation of Jacinda Ardern
 * 2023 Auckland floods
 * June and July 2023 Conservative Party by-elections
 * Wira_Gardiner
 * Marcello_Mastroianni
 * Ka Toto

Trump
Hey! I just wanted to give you a heads up that, regrettably, I had to revert your addition of the E. Jean Carroll lawsuit to the Trump page. There was a huge discussion of how to present that lawsuit quite recently. One thing that emerged from that discussion was an agreement that it should not be included until there's consensus as to how it should be included. ... And by "one thing" I mean "the only thing", because oh boy did it take its time to ultimately go nowhere. We'll probably do an RFC on it after the current RFC is over (best not to overload the talk page with two RFCs at the same time).-- Jerome Frank Disciple 00:47, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


 * That's fine. I should have checked. Aubernas (talk) 07:39, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of June and July 2023 Conservative Party by-elections for deletion
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CS1 error on Middle Eastern Americans
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Merle and the Maori claim
Hi. A heads up that Ive reverted your edit on Merle Oberon's alleged Maori ancestry - in the lead. There is some discussion on the talk page regarding this and particularly regarding her biographers take on her origins.(Higham and Moseley's book can be read at the Internet Archive). Their claim is still mentioned under "Parentage." Cheers Nickm57 (talk) 06:10, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on Coffee
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Correct dating of citations
Hi there. Just looking on Christopher Luxon's Wikipedia page and notice an edit you made here. You referenced a URL but had the date as 2023-07-04. This should've been the date that the article was written which was 2023-03-13. You got the access date correct though. It is important this is accurate. See WP:CS. Thank you. Kiwiz1338 (talk) 10:39, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on Coffee
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John Money
Thanks for your edit to John Money. Just to clarify, New Zealand American is a standard term used to refer to Americans of New Zealand origin. Money lived in Baltimore for the vast majority of his life, spoke with an American accent and he used American English in his works. Zenomonoz (talk) 10:04, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Troy (film)
Hi, that source you put in isnt suited as its highly opinionated, see WP:COUNTERPUNCH --FMSky (talk) 13:31, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Topia Rameka


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August 2023
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 * You've refused to engage in any talk-page discussions, or provide any reasonable explanation on why my proposed subsection shouldn't be published. You claim there to be no consensus yet fail to provide any opinion or evidence. You've also ignored the polite message I left for you on your talk page, inviting you to discuss my contribution.
 * It's actually a bit pathetic, mate. Aubernas (talk) 07:57, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on Völkner incident
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Please do not insert statements before current citations to sources which are not actually supported by those sources
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Indie rock
Hi, I've seen your recent edits to indie rock and just want to make sure you know that two of the sources you have used do not backup the information your edit claimed they do. This Audioculture article does not make a single use of the phrase "indie rock" or "indie", it uses "independent" a few times but only in reference to record labels, not the indie rock genre. Because of this, it can't be cited as a source to backup that the Dunedin sound was the beginning of indie rock, because it doesn't mention indie rock. Similarly the Masterclass source only mentions indie rock once, but makes no reference to Dunedin beginning indie rock, it just says that the scene was made up of indie rock and alternative bands. On Wikipedia we are supposed to WP:STICKTOTHESOURCES, so we can't include any of our own WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH that isn't included in reliable sources. Issan Sumisu (talk) 08:11, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

File:David Lange, August 1989.png listed for discussion
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I have sent you a note about a page you started
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ACT party edits
I'm getting worried. I have revered/fixed up your edits around 6 times now. Mainly on Christopher Luxon's page. You have made multiple edits with poorly sourced references that just don't support what you're adding. Your edit to ACT that states ACT as "Right-wing populism", but the reference added mentions "In the past, though, the party has resorted to populist law-and-order and anti-welfare policies" and "ACT supporters’ values are largely diametrically opposed to those upheld by Green supporters, as might be expected of a libertarian party that stands for individualism and deregulation." AKA. It has had past populist ideologies, but in the present it is a libertatian party. Kiwiz1338 (talk) 02:15, 28 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Please, there's no reason to be worried :) The quote from that source I used to support the "right-wing populist" claim was the following -
 * As ACT leader since 2014, Seymour has steered the party back towards free-market liberalism. But there is still an element of right-wing populist thinking among ACT’s supporters.
 * ACT has numerous populist policies. Its advocation against Māori seats, affirmative action, and co-governance is blatantly from a populist perspective. "Since 2021, Seymour has been a vocal opponent of co-governance initiatives."
 * I understand your frustration, but we need to find a source that adequately shows how ACT is a populist party. They've changed dramatically in the last two or three years, as their support base has grown.
 * Also, I'm not the first person to add "right-wing populism" to ACT's page. Here it was in May, using the same source I did
 * I'm not aware of the editor who did this. Aubernas (talk) 02:59, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
 * right-wing populist thinking among ACT’s supporters.  Not act itself. The source says that the party is a libertarian party. Do you have a reference to "ACT has numerous populist policies. Its advocation against Māori seats, affirmative action, and co-governance is blatantly from a populist perspective." This is your own research otherwise.  Kiwiz1338 (talk) 03:30, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

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HI
Two times today you have readded content I have removed with explanation and you have readded it without any explanation. Here and here. Any reason? Kiwiz1338 (talk) 05:39, 1 October 2023 (UTC)


 * , can you please give diffs for when you removed that content? Aubernas, if you reinstate content without an edit summary that had previously been removed with a given rationale, most editors would see that as disruptive editing.  Schwede 66  07:05, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The Hipkins revert was this one. The Luxon one was a major article clean-up. I put Aubernas's edit that added Luxon's political views to the lead of the article to the political views section and his net-worth part into the personal life section, and that was done over quite a lot of edits from me. You can see the difference here in edits but note it does include a couple of other users' edits as well. Kiwiz1338 (talk) 07:39, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I also removed a lot of poorly sourced edits on the Luxon page. Kiwiz1338 (talk) 08:47, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * You've expressed no evidence that any of those sources were "poorly sourced". Aubernas (talk) 23:15, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Please check Luxon's talk page and you'll see plenty of historic evidence from me. Kiwiz1338 (talk) 04:28, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Let me get this straight. has the following edit summary: Public image: A 6 month old reference can't realistily prove that Hipkins is a more popular PM with a 6 month old poll. Just check Opinion polling for the 2023 New Zealand general election. And you, Aubernas, without an edit summary, and you now claim that your actions are just fine? Do I have that right?  Schwede 66  23:43, 1 October 2023 (UTC)


 * That was a mistake. Aubernas (talk) 23:46, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Please explain how that's not disruptive editing.  Schwede 66  23:59, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi. Aubernas just reverted my edits calling them disruptive edits. I have left a message on the talk page. Kiwiz1338 (talk) 03:01, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * , I told this editor (Aubernas) something like a year ago (there is no talk page archive, but the page gets cleansed every now and then) that I would put their talk page onto my watchlist for ongoing and recurring issues. I've since shown little tolerance to their behaviour, with me reverting quite a bit of their editing that sits outside of agreed Wikipedia policy and guidelines. They are editing in an area where I have many of the articles on my watchlist; I only ever react to articles not on my watchlist if an issue gets raised here.
 * Right now is one of those episodes. I would describe their behaviour as disruptive. Rather than engaging in constructive dialogue, there is continual reverting of edits going on. At this point, I would be inclined to block to stop this disruption but might be considered involved given that I've kept the editor on a short leash. Would you mind having a look, please?  Schwede 66  03:55, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Request to Aubernas
In light of the above, I request you, Aubernas, to voluntarily agree to stop editing the article Christopher Luxon, its talk page, and any related material on other pages, until after election day. If you agree to this and adhere to it, then as far as I am concerned you remain an editor in good standing who had the sense to drop the stick. If you do not agree, I think this discussion should be taken to the administrator's noticeboard.- gadfium 04:16, 2 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Sure. Aubernas (talk) 10:20, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I've made peace with Kiwiz1338. Mā te wā. Aubernas (talk) 10:43, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Ngā mihi.- gadfium 17:20, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

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Nomination of Blue cheese wontons for deletion
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